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Syria Goes Hot: Russia To Deliver Weapons, Deploys Air Defense; Israel Warns Russia; Obama Demands No Fly Zone
Those who were intently following the USDJPY pair formerly known as the stock market today missed the biggest news of the day: the proxy war in Syria just went hot, following a confluence of news, first that Russia insisted "it would deliver anti-aircraft missiles to Syria despite international criticism, as fears of spillover from the conflict grew" and in logical retaliation to yesterday's decision by Europe to lift an arms embargo to the Al Qaeda-supported, Qatari mercenaries operating in Syria, also known as "rebels.
This lead Israel's defense minister Moshe Yaalon to immediately signal that "its military is prepared to strike shipments of advanced Russian weapons to Syria."
Meanwhile back in the US "the White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for a no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced by the U.S. and other countries such as France and Great Britain, two administration officials told The Daily Beast."
And just to make it very clear that Russia is not bluffing, it announced overnight that its four regiments of S-300 air defense systems have been deployed at the Ashuluk firing range in southern Russia as part of another snap combat readiness check of the Russian armed forces "The missions will be carried out in conditions of heavy electronic warfare to test the capabilities of the air defense units to the highest limit."
And to think: yet another threat of a global war over some natgas pipelines from Qatar to Europe, and a threat to Gazprom's monopoly.
Russia insisted Tuesday it would deliver anti-aircraft missiles to Syria despite international criticism, as fears of spillover from the conflict grew after three Lebanese soldiers were killed in a border-area attack.
Israel warned Russia it would "know what to do" if the delivery went ahead, and Syria's top rebel commander gave Hezbollah, the powerful Lebanese Shiite movement, a 24-hour ultimatum to stop fighting alongside regime forces.
The developments stoked tensions after the European Union decided to lift an embargo on weapons to Syria's rebels, in a move the opposition reacted to with caution.
Syria's regime joined its ally Russia in condemning the EU decision as an "obstruction" to peace efforts, while accusing the bloc of supporting and encouraging "terrorists".
Moscow said it would go ahead with its plans to deliver the S-300 missiles to Syria, despite international concerns, saying the weapons were part of existing contracts.
"We consider these supplies a stabilising factor," deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said, adding they could act as a deterrence against foreign intervention.
Israel's immediate response via the Guardian:
Israel quickly issued a thinly veiled warning that it would bomb the Russian S-300 missiles if they were sent to Syria, as such a move would bring the advanced guided missiles within range of civilian and military planes over Israel. Israel has conducted three sets of air strikes on Syria this year, aimed at preventing missiles being brought close to its border by the Lebanese Shia group Hezbollah.
"The shipments haven't set out yet and I hope they won't," Moshe Ya'alon, the Israeli defence minister, said. "If they do arrive in Syria, God forbid, we'll know what to do."
Russia's deputy foreign minister, Sergey Ryabkov, argued that the delivery of the S-300 system had been previously agreed with Damascus and would be a stabilising factor that could dissuade "some hotheads" from entering the conflict. That appeared to be a reference to the UK and France, who pushed through the lifting of the EU embargo on Monday night and are the only European countries considering arming the rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA).
After much deliberations, and unable to find the much needed "weapons of mass destruction" to justify intervention, the US is nonetheless escalating next and Obama is now said to demand plans for a No Fly Zone over Syria from the Pentagon. From the Daily Beast:
Along with no-fly zone plans, the White House is considering arming parts of the Syrian opposition and formally recognizing the Syrian opposition council.
The White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for a no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced by the U.S. and other countries such as France and Great Britain, two administration officials told The Daily Beast.
The request was made shortly before Secretary of State John Kerry toured the Middle East last week to try and finalize plans for an early June conference between the Syrian regime and rebel leaders in Geneva. The opposition, however, has yet to confirm its attendance and is demanding that the end of Syrian President Bashar al Assad’s rule be a precondition for negotiations, a condition Assad is unlikely to accept.
In April, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey told the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense that the military was planning for a range of options in Syria but that he did not necessarily support using those options.
"We're prepared with options, should military force be called upon and assuming it can be effectively used to secure our interests without making matters worse,” he said. “We must also be ready for options for an uncertain and dangerous future. That is a future we have not yet identified."
And finally going back full circle, Russia announced overnight that its four regiments of S-300 air defense systems have been deployed at the Ashuluk firing range in southern Russia as part of another snap combat readiness check of the Russian armed forces, the Defense Ministry said. From RIA:
The regiments were airlifted on Thursday by military transport planes to designated drop zones where they will carry out a variety of missions simulating the defense of the Russian airspace from massive attacks by “enemy” missiles and aircraft.
“The missions will be carried out in conditions of heavy electronic warfare to test the capabilities of the air defense units to the highest limit,” the ministry said.
A total of 8,700 personnel, 185 warplanes and 240 armored vehicles are involved in the three-day exercise, overseen by Col. Gen. Vladimir Zarudnitsky, head of Russian General Staff’s Main Operations Directorate.
Surely all of the above is very beneficial for future global GDP prospects.
Finally, here is the Russian S-300 system causing Qatar gas pipeline plans global democracies so much consternation:
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Fine. But what, pray tell, happens to the pipelin path? Which is what this is about. Along with additional water rights for a growing Israel.
I doubt the above scenario. A little bit of history here. The U.S. promised Russia (OK, Soviet Union at that time) not to expand NATO to include countries occupied by Soviet Union since the end of WW2 (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria). Soviets withdrew in an orderly manner and soon thereafter NATO expanded not only into the above mentioned countries but also into Baltic Republics (Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia). NATO has also made no secret it is interested to offer its membership to Ukraine and Georgia (Gruzia) in the future. Granted, all these former vassal states of Soviet Union joined NATO voluntarily and both Ukraine and Georgia have expressed their free desire to join the Alliance as well. Putin is no Yeltsin who had no choice but to let NATO bomb and dismember Serbia.
Clinton allowed Iranian arms shipments into Bosnia at night and the British and Americans faciliatated mujhadhin entering Kosovo from all over. This was the template. Bombing Belgrade the first European capital bombed since 1945; the 1975 Helsinki Accords violated. This was the model for New Imperial Order.
If USA had listened to Putin, Mubarak would still be running Egypt and Qadhafi would still be running Libya. The world would be safer. Of course, if Bush Jr. had not invaded Iraq, ........
Sure, IF you assume that the NWO wants a safer world. What part of their acronym don't you get?
S-300 SAMs from Russia's 1970s pile of old shit. Probably rusty. It's a good deal for Russia.
Agree. 40 year old technology. You might as well send your grandfather to the front. Get a clue people. Russia is on board with the program.
'The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded.[3] Its radars have the ability to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12. S-300 deployment time is five minutes.[3] The S-300 missiles are sealed rounds and require no maintenance over their lifetime. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21 Growler), entering limited service in 2004.'
Yeah that sounds like 40 year old tech to me too.
It really depends on the model sent. In the same wikipedia article you cited.
THe PMUs are considerd a capable if dated system. Looking at sales it looks like bottom rung militarys were purchasing the original s-300 in 2005 time frame which is not a stunning recomendation. If Russia sent the PMU it is indeed a threat to Israeli aircraft albeit not a very modern one. If they sent the 300s they were dumping in 2005 to Vietnam, its pure kabooki theatre. It is a phased radar anti aircraft missle so granted its not a water rocket. I just hope the USA doesnt escalate by supplying Israel with F-4s. Thats what everone loves about a proxy war is you get to test shit out. I bet the Russians are curious wether their old junk might get lucky and if it does, they might dumpp a few more on the market. Sorry if I informed you WWF is not real.
Every Israeli standing in force against Russia will get stomped and stomped hard. Russia can destroy 3 to 10 IDF jets / units for every loss on the Russian side.
jump on a large leaf in the wind see where it takes you
another neo-con wet dream...............
“The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives”http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
An ode to summer
I'd say that the world is going to hell, but I've long thought that the two are one-and-the-same.
Finally, global warming explained.
been telling people for last few years that ww3 is well on its way. see no reason for any amendments. SIGH!
what does China think of all this?
Burrish!
Finarry, I get rid of arr dis coppah pire!
WWAB oops, WWJB.. LOL
Gotta love the wackiness of religion
"what does China think of all this?"
It has to do with the price of tea there.
A chess board is flat and so will Syria be once this game is over and they have razed her to the ground.
A plague, I say, on all the houses who perpetuate this conflict and a plague it shall be.
At least Afghanistan is done with..... /sarc on/
The way I see it is nothing will really happen, beyond some bombings and finger pointing, terrorist attacks over there, the news will claim Al Queda, but not the Al Queda rebels we are funding. Then the show goes on.
On the other side this could completely blow up in our faces, if Obama really doesn't want to do anything hence the sanctions, he should stand up to Israel and tell them to handle their own business. If we go to war with Iran, Syria, and Russia that will cause more damage than any gain. Lots of glass fields around the world.
I see it's time to buy another couple of 5 gal. gas cans.
Gas cans? You will find this helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0lcnwdIYEfI
Russia should sell S300 Systems to Iran too. After all, they are only defensive systems. That should level the playing field a bit. Why should not any country be able to defend itself?
What a fool! Why do you think the Rooskies / Germans /Swiss have not sold them the rockets / designs / technology? Did Iran develop ultraspeed torpedoes because they are stupid? Did Persia not mine hard rock tunnels 5000 years ago? The Persians, now called Iranians are not stupid. You need to aspire to their level of thinking and shut off your Iman.
How does Iran constantly threatening Israel constitute "defense"? How does Hezbollah et al shooting rockets into Israel constitute "defense"? Y'all are an out of the closet terrorist (!) if you support killing innocent civilians for political gain. (Present USA administration included...)
So.... it was OK in 1948 for the Israelis to invade, take over, and kill/displace Palestinians who were already living on the land at that time.
Why no exposure of the Zionists' (not all Jews are Zionists) crimes in the late 1940s???
What will most likely happen... Russia will deliver weapons to Assad... Israel will destroy them before they are deployed... Europe will continue to fund and arm the FSA covertly... and it will continue that way till one side loses.
I doubt that Russia will do whatever necessary to keep control in Syria (an invasion/occupation)... if not, either NATO will have to back down and let Russia have their puppet state or it's gonna be WW3.
All of this crap would have never happened in the first place if it weren't for Bernanke and his QE bullshit exporting massive inflation everywhere in the world, creating revolts... which lead to the extremists getting more and more supporters... which lead to the ``Arab spring`` which was then financed, propagandized and armed by the western MSM as a good thing....
In other words, FUCK YOU BERNANKE...
But if you go even further, all this crap is because of the US CONGRESS who deregulated the banks when they got rid of the Glass Steagal Act...
So the road to WW3 is because of all these folks :
- Congress (for the bank bailouts + getting rid of Glass Steagal Act)
- Bernanke & Greenspan (for their bubbles and QE programs)
- Bush and Obama (for arming, financing, training and motivating people to become extremists)
"All of this crap would have never happened in the first place if it weren't for Bernanke and his QE bullshit exporting massive inflation everywhere in the world, creating revolts... which lead to the extremists getting more and more supporters... which lead to the ``Arab spring`` which was then financed, propagandized and armed by the western MSM as a good thing...."
Yeah, it's ALL Bernanke's fault. I blame him for my dog's injury too!
Psst! Let's NOT talk about how the looming scarcity of the world's resources comes in to play here, that ALL wars are about resources.
Boo Bernanke! The devil didn't exist until YOU came along! Boo!
As I said, it's not just Bernanke's fault. It's Congress. It's Greenspan. It's also the shitty middle-eastern governments for being a bunch of thieves (much like our owns) fault. It's also the extremists parts of islam's fault... which is funded and taught by Saudi Arabia... which was funded and taught by the US department of education too since the 80s to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan... thing is, all those religious schools teaching extremist islam were NEVER CLOSED when the Ruskies left... Wonder why there's more extremists and more terrorism now than before? Thank Reagan and Saudi Arabia.
I think Tyler (as usual) has a good bead on it. Nat. Gas, Europe, Energy control, Very cold winter, on-off valve.
Yea, the problem with this scenario is that its being so over played, it ends in a peace treaty, or not. Maybe it's SOOO over played that some itchy fingers push some buttonss and no one knows who the hell fired what where and the world's biggest outdoor BBQ gets going...holy shit!
Fuck all sides. No win situation.
Anyone want to wager how long the US ambassador to Qatar will live when this has all played out? Obviously this person has a pretty good understanding of all the skeletons in the closet (how the US is in bed with al Qaeda).
Read some of what Sibel has to say
http://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/whistleblower-al-qaeda-chief-u-s-asset/
With every future instance of kikeistani aircraft that breaks international law (which is all they ever do), invades foreign airspace and is righteously shot down... I will party like it's 1999.
Disclaimer: I am not demoshit, repukelican, muslim, christian, hippy or warmonger.
I am however a free thinking Buddhist.
"Ich bin ein Buddhist". So to speak.
Pretty sure that's Israel threatening to attack Russian ships. I'm sure that won't end well.
Yes, and I hope that Putin does the world a favor and squashes them like the bugs that they are.
Russia should declare an arms embargo on Israel. Nothing goes in, nothing goes out.
I am just concerned that some party may not turn Israel in to a parking lot by mistake. Of course they can find out later who did that.
Funny. Don't Parking Lot Maker (PLM) devices go AWOL all the time?
Should one post news headlines that a bunch have gone missing? To disassociate oneself from culpability?
This should be good for another $10- $20 dollar drop in the gold price :-/
And another +30 ES!!
Apparently what is happening here is the posturing prior to talks between the European powers, the U.S. and Russia aimed at reducing the hostilities in Syria and, from a U.S. point of view, a new government structure without Assad.
The Russians would come to the meeting with no such goal.
A major offensive by Syrian forces within the past week also was aimed at gaining leverage prior to the talks.
In customary U.S./ Zionist policy, the negotiators are trying to keep Iran from being part of the peace talks, even though the other major players are invited to attend.
BTW, it is not realistic to believe that the Israeli Air Force would attack a Russian ship in international waters for any reason. Surely, they are not that stupid.
Yes, they ARE.
There's a lot of dead americans in the water around where the U.S.S. Liberty used to be parked.
I found this funny......
"Since the Syrian conflict erupted in March 2011, Israel repeatedly has voiced concerns that Syria's sophisticated arsenal, including chemical weapons, could either be transferred to Hezbollah, a bitter enemy of Israel, or fall into the hands of rebels battling Syrian President Bashar Assad. The rebels include al-Qaida-affiliated groups that Israel believes could turn their attention toward Israel if they topple Assad."
(now aren't those rebels the same people that we are now arming since the arm embargo was lifted? so techinically shouldn't Israel be upset with us arming the al-Qaida-affiliated groups?)
I can't believe more people aren't pissed about all this BS happening, one day to the next things fall apart here and we are more focused on civil wars in the Arab Spring.
Wait, what?
This Russia/Syria narrative started picking up heat somewhere around 2004/2005.
Groundhog day year after year.
same as it ever was
Great news for the DOW!
The S-300? Wow, that some strategic advantage. Israel won't allow those ships to unload their cargo.
Dude...
Israel is late. Those missiles are already there. Who the fuck would announce something like that?
I know the Russians like to drink but their not stupid.....
China will soon enter the game too, after all they're getting great weapons... from the US!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/chinese-hackers-breach-key-u-weapons-...
Chinese hackers breach key US weapons designs
Chinese hackers have compromised the designs of some of America’s most sensitive and advanced weapons systems—including vital parts of the nation’s missile defenses, fighter aircraft and warships—the Washington Post reported Tuesday.
The Post published the list of compromised systems here. It includes drone video systems, “directed energy” (a category that includes lasers and the like) and advanced Patriot missile systems. Also compromised were designs for the F/A 18 fighter jet, V-22 Osprey, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters and the Navy’s new Littoral Combat Ship meant to prowl the coasts. The list also includes the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) designed to shoot down ballistic missiles.
Great thing we're investing in China and buying their stuff right?? Paying for our own annihilation, that's BRILLIANT.
This is actually a way for Conservative elements in the Pentagon to drop the whole F-35 program, something everyone involved (aka Canada etc) has been attempting to do for a while now (just do a simple search - the list of articles, from both sides of the political spectrum denouncing it is impressively long). None of the alleged hacked data was Secret or Top Secret, which means: Sales Catalogs / White Papers (check the list against tech available to allies / NATO members for a hint).
Check their list: Nanotechnology (you got that in the field yet?), Affordable Weapons Systems (3D printed guns?), Rail Gun.
If the Navy's rail gun tech had actually been breached, you'd be at war, given its potential to replace conventional missiles and make all modern Navies functionally obsolete. Not even joking about this one.
Always need a patsy...
The WH is on the case...
http://mobilebeta.reuters.com/white-house-security-adviser-calls-for-dee...
White House security adviser calls for deeper China military ties
Treason, treason all around.
You're not getting it yet, and you're still stuck in mid-20th century thinking.
The trick is to allow your "rivals" to have some of your tech, lest they become disillusioned and stop playing the role of the bogey man. And trust me, they got nothing that wasn't allowed, and it's all smoke and mirrors to push the new CyberFuckingNaziState bills. China gets tech when it's allowed (if you want "fun and games" do a search on a Chinese NASA or MIT guy getting nuked from orbit for "stealing a work laptop", getting arrested on a plane and the FBI only found porn and ripped films on it, ffs. There you go, 3rd May 2013) and the actual rules of cyberwar are being very delicately outlined (do a GREP, I gave you the Talinn doc).
Any state, at any time, can now crash its' rivals infrastructure due to shitty open protocols [SHODAN or other better tools]. It's already in a state of M.A.D., wise the fuck up. (Stuxnet + children? do some research, you idiot). Most of the FUD being played out is due to MIC budgets, nothing more. Sure, the Chinese hack away, but so does everyone else. No-one is actually going out of their way to break shit, because otherwise it'd be a short moment before the entire net broke. (Which is why the MPAA / RIAA / Elsevier or whatever are such clueless fucktards stuck in the 19th century and need to be stamped out before they cause WWIII, because they're clinging onto models that just. do. not. work. with. modern. tech.).
The Ms. Magic credit card from China Citic Bank (601998) is dotted with Swarovski crystals and offers free beauty treatments and health insurance. Huaxia Bank’s (600015) Pretty Lady card, co-issued with Deutsche Bank (DB), entices women with triple points for cosmetic purchases and fitness club memberships. Citigroup (C), which last year became the first U.S. bank allowed to issue its own solo logo cards in China, offers to waive its first-year annual fee of 300 yuan ($49) for Rewards cardholders applying before March or spending more than 20,000 yuan by the end of December.
They’re all part of a battle for affluent consumers in the world’s fastest-growing market for plastic, even as delinquencies have tripled in the past five years and profits remain elusive. “Credit cards are the ultimate growth area and also the battlefield for banks in China,” says Rainy Yuan, an analyst in Shanghai for Taipei-based Masterlink Securities. “Some may never earn a profit out of it, but they have to join the fight, as that’s the most efficient way of grabbing deposits and cross-selling other financial services.”[Bloomberg via Business Week, May 2nd 2013]
Look at that. Western Banks are now in the CC market for China (note - smarter bears will have already noticed HSBC isn't mentioned there. The reason is much simpler than conspiracy, it's called "moving into a virgin market first" and "having physical presence" ).
They're a fucking Ally not a competitor you MUPPET, they're now joining the market / system fully. (Not that they weren't already holding $3 trillion in treasury bonds, but this is the pay off).
Jesus wept you people are dim and don't understand finance.
hmm, wonder how many secrets the Hon. Wolf has on his computer?
re: big bad china, both out w/i the last 36 hrs --
China to cut duties on Swiss watches
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-27/china-to-cut-import-duties-on-swiss-watches-in-free-trade-pact.html
China is ready to open up new sectors of its economy to German investorshttp://www.cnbc.com/id/100768161
it should be pretty clear what the game plan is by now...that is, unless you are playing go.
Of course: China gets Afgan mining, and probably Khaz / Turk stans (watch who failed there - Prince Andrew and Rothschild) as a counter-weight to Russia keeping Siberia. Tibet / Nepal / India is about to suffer serious issues due to glacier melt, they need a more stable resource area. The watch stuff is due to internal pressures over "pretending to be austere" (do a GREP, it's a post with Jackie Chan in it, played out as expected) and not wanting to cut off lucrative trade deals too severely.
Of course China plays GO. China turned the stones of Afghanistan to get that JPM sanctioned minerals (they own 10% of JPM anyhow) once the laowai leave. Unilke the USG, I'm sure they're make sure their investments are protected.
I'm playing GO, but in an entirely more complex realm. I don't relish being eaten, so run run run.
p.s.
Your comment cut my edit off, so short-hand:
Rules of becoming a playa:
#1 Nukes
#2 Economic independence
India and Pakistan did #1, but neither did #2. India needs to sort it's shit out seriously (we're talking $390 billion in internal infrastructure at least and internal focus on completing the Empire's works) or it'll never get to #2. Pakistan is a joke, and no-one seriously thinks they'll ever get to #2. They were given nukes as a trade-off to balance power in the region, nothing more. (Oh, and I love the random junkers - it means fuck all. If you've a counter, please play your cards, I'll dance with you, otherwise you're kinda silly.) Hint: what stabilizes the Indian-Pakistan region? Answer: Cricket.
Deal with it.
(they own 10% of JPM anyhow) hmmm, care to share your source of tin?
India needs to sort it's shit out seriously join the club
internal focus on completing the Empire's work perhaps they are? (the entire episode has many levels of foliage if you keep in mind your Imperial history)
p.s. let you get at least 2 edits off this time....better?
The source of China holding 10% of JPM is their own shareholder data.
Go grab it, it's a public document. I've not bothered to check it for a year or three, but China held 10% (at the very least) a long while back, and it has never shifted downwards. At this point, I'd not be surprised if they owned 20% ('cause that's what I'd do).
You really think that $3 trillion in treasuries doesn't get you a cut of the Internal Shark Zone? They'd own more, but it was <--Apparently not allowed to say this bit 'cause it's not public data--> and the rules are, only public data allowed. Grump Grump Grump.
Ciao. And seriously: the only way forward is for information to be free & open. Trust me: if a subject is stupid enough, they won't care what the reality is, and you'll cut down on 25% mental health issues due to shitty & crude blinkers being enforced, let alone your prison population.
my lack of culture on display for the world...
i had to run a google on "go" game
i'll have to try that game out, though i think my wife will eat me for breakfast as she usually does in Catan.
my lack of culture on display for the world...
i had to run a google on "go" game
i'll have to try that game out, though i think my wife will eat me for breakfast as she usually does in Catan.
Chinese hackers = State department
breach = joyfully handed over
Spooks have been having a field day today; trending on all major US news channels is (shock! horror!) the apparent theft by Chinese hackers of confidential (you'll note, not Secret or Top Secret) military data with some heavy hints about the F-35 program being compromised added for spice. Even the conservative military bloggers have picked up on it, running stories about how it's time to cancel the program. How useful, given the amount of heat it's been drawing (especially in Canada recently) and just how badly the entire project has come over.
As for this story, how different two days make:
Despite official statements to the contrary, Russia will not transfer a shipment of advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Syria, an unnamed senior Russian official has told London’s Sunday Times. According to Sunday’s report, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu managed to convince Russian President Vladimir Putin of the risk such a deal posed to regional stability and Israeli civilians, during a meeting in the Black Sea resort of Sochi earlier this month, leading to the cancelation of the planned sale of six S-300 batteries to Bashar Assad’s regime.[Times of Israel 26th May] It's worth a look, just for the photo of Net / Putin in talks. Let's just say, body language says the real message. Referencing the original story in The Sunday Times, the author was Uzi Mahnaimi. Now he's a man of long time credentials in the spooky world we live in.
All in all, I dub thee "Spooky Tuesday".
2 thumbs up on that photo (shouldn't have to bother with the link, but it's still quite funny, so what the hay. check out the body language on this one, especially Madame Merkel's Mudra at 2:22)
Since Israel is already in on the JSF development, it will now have to be moved to Israel, for security reasons, no doubt. ;~\,
What is Israel sticking its big nose in there for?
They made a mistake when they stole the land and allowed Israel to be created, to my knowledge, prior to that the area was a lot more stable and peaceful.
This all smells like bullshit. There are exactly the same reports and arguments between Russia/Israel/USA from like 2004/2005. "Russia plans to sell such and such SAM, Israel and US object, weapons might end up in terrorist hands" etc. Meanwhile, apparently Russia has been selling and delivering Syria advanced weaponry for 10 fucking years.
And now they're once again going through the motions. "Russia plans to sell/deliver, US/Israel object".
Lulz, you said BIG nose....
Hahahaha
I'd be hot too... that is if my entire in situ metals and energy trade got pre-crimed by the multi-year delay in the final Donk Fraud swaps vote. Mullet, skuller or bald-headed makes no difference to me... a ripple effect is a ripple effect whether it come by land or if by sea.
http://tradewithdave.com/?p=16743
Oh, the arrogance. A hot strike against Russians will lead to massive Israeli casualties. Israel is NOT armed like a super-power. Russia IS.
Not to mention, 2 nukes on Israel and Israel is done.
Yeah and then that dead man's switch goes into action and we get to play Russian roulette on a global scale.
At least when they use the Samson option we won't trust another Khazar for at least 100 years, until they convince us their sea shells are more valuable than our sea shells.
Google PDD-60
Launch on Warning
Bell said the press had incorrectly indicated that the PDD "still allows" the United States to launch nuclear weapons upon receiving warning of an attack. Bell emphasized that "there is no change in this PDD with respect to U.S. policy on launch on warning and that policy is that we do not, not rely on it." In fact, Bell said "in this PDD we direct our military forces to continue to posture themselves in such a way as to not rely on launch on warning--to be able to absorb a nuclear strike and still have enough force surviving to constitute credible deterrence."
I think good-ol "have a cigar" fucked us. If this is true....... we will "take" the first strike without firing back. I'm kinda wondering exactly what we're going to strike back with?????
Master banker plan?? YES
Ever heard of the dead hand?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_%28nuclear_war%29
Dead Hand (Russian: ??????? «????????», Systema "Perimetr"),[1] known also as Perimeter,[2] is a Cold-War-era nuclear-control system used by the Soviet Union. General speculation from insiders alleges that the system remains in use in post-Soviet Russia. An example of fail-deadly deterrence, it can automatically trigger the launch of the Russian Intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) if a nuclear strike is detected by seismic, light, radioactivity and overpressure sensors. By most accounts, it is normally switched off and is supposed to be activated during dangerous crises only. However, it is said to remain fully functional and able to serve its purpose whenever needed.[3]
All heil the doomsday machine! And guess what, I bet 99% of people at the Pentagon and 110% of congress don't know what the Dead Hand is.
No I haven't heard of this.
The question is...... are there still any sane people in control? Once the first button is hit.... we're ALL cooked!!
No, they are insane. Are you ready for the end game?
Unless you include the subs the Germans are making for them, the Switch melts also if the whole area becomes a sea of Fused Silica. Short fused silica.
You left out the other much larger land mass that constitutes greater Israel, a/k/a the United States.
This is lengthy, but worth it - scout's honor. Actually, it's the best thing I've read on the topic of neocons I've read in a long time.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
If you haven't read "The Lie Factory" still available at Mother Jones, you might be interested in that.
The point is - why is Richard Pearle and his 5th columnist pals not in jail????
p.s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IacjykebU
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/iraqiran-is-feverishly-working-to-develop-...
Take a close look at that little map in the intro graphic showing where these SAM's are deployed. Greece? Hmmmm. and those babies have a 150 km max range. Depending on where they are based, seems to me they could knock Turkish planes out of the sky. Among others. And I do believe that there is also an Israeli AFB in Greece.
I'm stocking up on popcorn.
Of course Obamaclown, who was high during the cold war, immediately assumes he is dealing with a 3rd world country again instead of Russia, and escalates.
You feel that in the air? The TPTB gon' die soon.. fuck those useless eating shitstains.
The worst part is you can't believe our guys worth shit.
The attorney general is a liar and runs over the Constitution, the pres is no better. Homeland Security has been fighting drug wars it can't win and a lot of their people are making good money from this "war".
The CIA has bent and broken more rules than Lucifer and lied to the masses more than once.
Other agencies are proved incompetant or crooked. Corzine and others still being free are testament to that.
The only laws they enforce are against the little people.
Let Obama and Netyanu and the others get on a plane, give them some guns and put them on the ground over there to fight. Maybe then, we may see how genuine all this bs is.
"... Homeland Security has been fighting drug wars it can't win"
Homeland Security has been PRETENDING to be fighting Drug Wars that support the Black Ops and Banking system that it doesn't want to win.....
There, Fixed that for ya...
"The White House has asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for a no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced by the U.S"
Interestingly, this is what the "rebels" requested from McCain as he visited them in Syria.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8SYoNlU64E
Apparently they're not happy about the lack of support from the U.S.
So if I understand this correctly, USAF is going to give Al-Qaeda air support?
Is this a new, friendlier Al-Qaeda?
Not really:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvO3qAlyTg
http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738
Well, I guess this wasn't so inaccurate after all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otyM6wNQGY0
Con los terroristas?
Since the beginning, it would seem.
This strategy was successful in Kosovo (air support for terrorist KLA) and more recently in Libya. It will work well in Syria, will it not?
WH: "We were not engaged on Benghazi before, during or after"
WH: "We are pre-emptively engaged"
The Obama/Jarrett fabulous lying machine...
CPUSA ! CPUSA ! CPUSA!
Oh yeah, Libya and Iraq turned out great, so lets do this again!
We should be more civilized and give everyone nukes.
Berezovsky forgotten so quickly? Ahem!
Ahh...Gazprom, Regents Place, 6th Floor to 9th Floor...where the real action is...remember not to get thrown off the terrace...
http://blog.eoffice.net/2012/03/gazprom-london-office/
Here we go again!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soy3PHV3RiM
And the generals will be chomping at the bit 'cuz they can git away from the old lady and kidz and get some strange in Dubai. Think I'm kidding? Then you ain't been to war, have ya?
fix, although u know that any of the current crop of "generals" have been de-nutted, so they are only allowed to chomp when allowed by their masters.
I know u not b kidding, but there were the Carter "generals" and then Ronnie came in and found the Warriors, Papa Bear among the crowd.
- Ned
I just happen to be an American born into the Jewish faith, but I want nothing to do with Israel. They're wrapping their tentacles around the testicles of every member of the U.S. CONgress through AIPAC and various "think tanks", (that's assuming that there are members of CONgress who have any balls). We should have stopped foreign aid and weapons sales to these war mongers, years ago. I do not attend synagogue, but I do know that there are secular American jews, like myself, who agree with me. NO ONE RACE OR TRIBE ARE GOD'S "CHOSEN PEOPLE'!!! This is the sort of thinking that keeps us where we are,socially and politically. Personally, I can see Russia's POV, especially considering its geographical location and the fact that SOMEONE has to keep the U.S. and Israel from starting WW3 over a fucking pipeline. Syria is about resource wars and who's "entitled" to own them.
I was born catholic but I am a nihilist. I was born in Switzerland but I refuse to be a citizen. I am a human. Religions and Nations are just barbaric relics (thanks to Ben Shalom for that phrase) - both invented to control and repress people.
Don't forget race. "Race" is a social construct invented by the banksters to divide and conquer. We're really all the same, even if certain of those imaginary "races" are incapable of behaving like civilized human beings. We must embrace our black brothers; all we have to do is give them all our white wimminz.
Youre right, there is no such thing like "race". However, Ive never said, that we are all the same. The opposite is true, we are really all different.
And btw. wimminz are not goodz.
I dunno...my race doesn't have those big schnozes like the zionists do.
Race wasnt invented by bankers. Race is simply a roman word for ethnic groups
Bankers are not trying to "divide" us, if anything they wanna destroy all the races and bring a One World Government
Israel is surrounded by a sea of Muslims. It's just a matter of time before they Jihad bitch Israel. The only thing they will be able to do is launch nukes, and they have quite a few. Got your hole ready?
Just an FYI - Israel has previously demonstrated an ability to jam and spoof the S-300 system - it was Russia that asked them not to share that secret with the rest of the world - Israel is reputed to be the best in the business at electronic warfare.
If they do get delivered and they're not immediately whacked it makes little difference - you can hit them with a ground-hugging standoff munition like TLAM - you can force them into engaging drones/uav's and deploy ALARM/HARM to deal with the rest of the IADS as usual - for all the hype none of these semi-static defensive systems is worth dick against a modern air-force - to be truly effective these systems need to have resilient C3i infrastructure - the SEAD mission in syria would be intensive but it wouldn't last more than a few days and those S-300's are unlikely to change that. What they do mean is that Assad can (until they are destoyed) threaten Israeli airspace which poses major problems for its civilian airliners.
Let's see shall we ? Israel is clearly the Global Superpower and the nations of the earth shall bow down before it. Netanyahu, Emperor of The World with his powerful military machine able to make American Presidents kneel before him and "do a Monica"
Israel is now neutralized. On Tuesday, China stole the technology and codes out the back door of the Pentagram for their defense countermeasures that we sold them.
I don't know if their iron dome programme was compromised, but I'm guessing yes.
Golly Wally, all the Israeli haters here, all the America haters here...you all are shooting at each other for what? Ready, fire, aim...that is the way I see it anyway. What is with all the hate? If you knew history or took stock in the Bible, you would know it is all destined to happen, yet all you can do is blame it on the Hebrews and Americans...I shake my head in pity for all the ignorance bantered about here!
I thought this was a heady site, high IQ and good financial minds, but all I see is blather and hate...
Get in a circle will ya, the just fire away! pffft
It is not destined to happen. If you checked the history of the compilation that is known as the bible, you would realize that the translated work you are familiar with is not what you think it is.
If anything happens because of religion, it was the brainwashing by the ignorant to the rest of humanity.
The way I see it is "ready, aim fire"- You already shot your wad and missed because you didn't aim cowboy.
Anyhthing the brotherhood wants. Even if it is WWIII will be granted.
I've been feeling particularly good about the Russians lately - especially since Boston.
I wonder how much Assad can trust the Russians and their new missle system?
Guy...
Do you think that Russians pointed out TSERNAEV as a terrorist?
Or....
The Russians pointed out TSERNAEV as a CIA run agent to conduct recruiting and offensive operations in RUSSIA in order to disrupt and delay government operations, and that the Russians were providing a friendly pointer to the USA that the FSB was aware of this agent and blown his cover.
You pick.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130529/181396624/Russia-US-at-Odds-After-EU-Mo...
Russia, US at Odds After EU Move on Syria ArmsRussia and the United States split starkly Tuesday over the EU move to end its ban on arms sales to Syria, with Moscow denouncing it as a violation of international law and Washington applauding the move while repeating its aversion to Russian weapons sales.
Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoHZuMDNTkA
vs
America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhlI2zZHhnU
Does our Commander in Chief, Val jarrett, have the experience necessary to get this done? Will she use the press to slime Putin? Will she sic the IRS on him? Will she call on all mulattoes to march in the streets?
Winner ! You win a free vacation to Jarrett's home country of Iran...
Wasn't her father-in-law a member of CPUSA. She will do nothing to harm that which her party loves.
This whole thing makes me sick. Im sick of war and my countries involvment(USA). I sick of the hate against the Muslims. I am sick of the hate I am hearing here against the Jews and Israelis many of which have no say what their government does just like USA citizens. Why the fuck are we still doing this bullshit? I refuse to indulge in hate. Bring our troops home its none of our fucking business. Our military is for defending our sovereign nation here in the USA! Whoever you are I wish you peace for you, your family your community your environment. I desire the same. If you desire the same do not participate in war. Walk in the other guys shoes. Practice compassion. Do not allow yourself to be polarized. Do not nurture or keep hate in your heart, you will be manipulated every single time with hate in your heart.
Consume less.
Dont you give a fuck about the beauty in the world?
Nurture beauty.
We can no longer afford the resources war consumes it is beyond critical.
Beauty for these fucks is dead bodies as far as they can see.
You don't have the logistical capability to conduct the type of operation that you are advocating at this time.
Remember, professionals talk logistics, amateurs talk tactics.
Lets talk logistics...
You'll need at least 150,000 rounds of small arms ammo for each DEAD BODY. Can't use the bayonet since the US Army no longer teaches this as part of their infantry curriculum (TRADOC), and the m9 bayonet is no longer in NSN inventory (for the army). So... With your intent of... Bodies as far as they can see... You will have to move a MOUNTAIN OF LEAD AND STEEL to pre-positioned areas BEFORE you can conduct your operation of murder. You'll be hard pressed to keep operational security since you'll be employing various agencies NOT DIRECTLY under your control, meaning contracted agencies to carry out your Oplans.
With that said not every person that you shoot at will actually willingly allow you to do so, meaning...you might just very well run into resistance to your Oplan. Unless you advocate the sabra-shatilla type of cleansing.
It is always my pleasure to set the "initiated to money but not to warfare" straight.
That's why they invented nukes.
And humans never needed guns to kill each other... it's just more efficient.
Just in Rwanda... 800 000 dead in 100 days... with no guns.
Different area, different tactics, different techniques.
It has been a very long time since nukes were used as a offensive weapon, and only twice.
Not very realistic to advocate nuclear warfare since once one has been released you can very well expect AN EXCHANGE.
How much for a machete in Damascus?
Vs
How much for a AK47?
To WAMO556
Re Nukes: Micro nukes have been used in warfare and in other attacks at least several times since the big 2 were dropped in Japan.
They have scaled down the size and are able to dial-in the explosive power so that they don't make as big a splash. Several weapons authorities have what they consider solid proof that a weapon used on Syria 2 weeks ago near Damascus was indeed nuclear.
It's not as clear cut or decernable as it used to be.
S>H>U>R>B>
SHURB
Sunshine Happiness, Unicorns, Rainbows and Butterflies.......
STFU
Shut
The
Fuck
Up
Toad!!
Obviously You've never been in a shooting match!
Why is it always the idiot assholes who advocate war, are the very ones who have never been in one.
You fucking toad, go to your nearest recruiter and sign up for the infantry. Go to war, lose something of yourself and then come back here and talk your shit.
It pisses me off to no end when you got some dipshit who watched SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and now know what it means to be in combat.
It is always my pleasure to provide counsel to the uninitiated.
I HAVE THE CONCH!
i forget, are we at war with eurasia or eastasia? i know we have always been at war but need someone to tell me which side to root for so i don't become a traitor to the ptb.
Just who exactly is making money off of all this activity?
Un is. Un says, "why make billions ... when you can make millions!?"
I'm making money, as I have been since I called the last crash in Oct., after that horrendous ODG report. Made 144% by going all in the BOVESPA in late Feb the following year.......then my testicles shriveled up after QE3 and sold the lot.
In lots of cash at the moment, except for some REITs .........decisions decisions........Mountain property in S. WV is looking mighty tempting.......
Anyone ever met Crazy John at Union Outfitters?
Central bankers. We stop the LPG line that will service China. Capture and cap his oil reserves. Convert the country back to the petro dollar with an appointed puppet. Steal their Gold reserves and bomb Iran all in one fell swoop. And it will play out just like that.
Smartest thing to do is blow Israel off the fucking map so the world can live in peace.
Other than that, I have no idea why Syria is so important?
This asshole is going to get us hit guaranteed. China and Russia let alone Iran won't tollerate this Monarchy bullshit anymore and we are the enemy. I don't remember Syria ever attacking us? Do you?
Britain.. or GB is where it's at right now.. but this situation is pretty f*cked too.. don't sweat it tho.. the winds of change are blowing.. something really nasty going to happen soon to TPTB.. they won't know what's hittin them those useless eating cum-bucket scumbags... good for nothing filthy pieces of shit just sitting there eating uselessly all day long... oh and fuck those fucking BANKSTAHS TOO... and fuck the useless eaters club with small dicks ( Occult/Cabal ) too...
Don't sugar coat it. How do you really feel? :-)
Obama Demands No Fly Zone
Obama catches Terrorist in No Fly Zone
None should be surprised that the Obowel Movement Draws Flies........
Obama Demands = The Obowel Movement will soon make war
i want a S-300 P missle system
to keep the moose
out of the garden ..
Russia will never abandon Syria
It hosts the last Russian naval base that has access to the Mediterranean...
And who is going to kick them out anyway?
One almost misses the old Soviet style. Al Qaeda and the taco republics just don't have the same penash. Just look at that beefy hardware, unbelievable it's a relic from the 70s and still looks tres menacing.
Thankfully we've got drones to defend against it.
And we have invisible cloaks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGgUZgCeOzQ
Oy
Oui
NATO chief to meet Obama in White House on Friday. It's on like Donkey Kong now.
I was afraid of that. Well. WW III will commence shortly pray this Userp doesn't get his way.
Don't give this fascist regime the no fly zone. Once that comes, all hell will break loose.
No fly = the only flying are NATO forces, and yes, that means the USA also. Todays dirivitive call sparked this off no doubt. Could have crashed all the banks in the US. Still waiting for the story on ZH. Silver Doctor already covered it.
Winning hearts and minds conquoring 1 Sovereign nation at a time. The central bankers are ready to move in. Full spectrum domination. Makes me sick.
http://silverdoctors.com/jim-sinclair-entire-us-banking-system-missed-a-...
In my mind Russia is no match for the US, "however" Russia isn't going to sit by idly and watch the correctly called "Big Satan" take over everything and are bull-headed enough to be drawn into all this. The big difference is that the general US population will actually "feel" the pain when this starts unlike the once every 6 months Iraq 2.4 second spot ad. It's also imo that stupidity and greed will escalate and in the end there are no winners.
What's sad is I belive this is inevitable with the current stupid fucks in power and truthfully im tired of the suspense. Let's get it on. I'm from the US and again truthfully I can't wait to see these fkn morons get their asses bitch slapped into yesterday.
I'm sure they said the same thing about the Russians being no match for the Germans when the "paper-hanging son-of-a-bitch" was running things in Berlin.
The Russians have enough nukes to wreak the earth. No match for what?
Fuck Israel. Let them fight their own wars. Enough is enough!
It's no longer israel... The official name is the Rothschild Banksters Republic of Kikeistan.
RBRK for short. Has a certain N. Korean sound to it.
We're down to how many rothschild bank franchise free countries now??? Anyone counting?