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US Cyber Chief: Military Is Unprepared For Hacking
Submitted by Zachary Keck via The Diplomat,
The head of the U.S. Cyber Command said that the U.S. military is unprepared for cyber attacks, specifically singling out China.
"What we're seeing in cyber is going to continue and it's going to grow and it's going to get worse," Gen. Keith Alexander, the Pentagon’s top Cyber chief said at a Washington, DC breakfast this week, InsideDefense reported. He added:
"The platform we have today is not defensible. You can't see it, you can't defend it, and I would guarantee you that the adversary could penetrate it. And it'd take us months to find it."
Elaborating on this point, Gen. Alexander said that the military’s current network has 15,000 enclaves, which made it “obviously indefensible.” To remedy this problem, the general advocated that the military adopt a “thin, virtual client that is defensible, a cloud-like architecture. By doing that it collapses that 15,000 enclaves into a defensible perimeter," according to the InsideDefense report.
He also stressed the importance of working more closely with defense companies that have been the target of cyber espionage operations, particularly from China. In addition, Gen. Alexander emphasized that the military and intelligence agencies didn’t to do a better job of creating a unified set of standards to facilitate information sharing and joint operations between different agencies responsible for cyber defense.
According to the report, Gen. Alexander singled out China as a particularly cyber concern. To bolster his argument that hacking operations could enable China to acquire information and technology must more quickly and cheaply than Western companies, he cited the rapid rise of the Chinese telecommunication company Huawei.
"If you look at Huawei and how they've come up so quickly, did they grow all by themselves or did they steal some of the intellectual property that led to it?"
Gen. Alexander’s speech seemed to contradict a statement the Pentagon had made earlier in the week downplaying the U.S. defense industries’ vulnerability to hackers following reports that major U.S. weapon systems had been compromised by Chinese hackers. In the statement, Pentagon spokesperson George Little said:
“We maintain full confidence in our weapons platforms... The Department of Defense takes the threat of cyber espionage and cyber security very seriously, which is why we have taken a number of steps to increase funding to strengthen our capabilities, harden our networks, and work with the defense industrial base to achieve greater visibility into the threats our industrial partners are facing. Suggestions that cyber intrusions have somehow led to the erosion of our capabilities or technological edge are incorrect.”
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You don't need to be prepared for hacking if you don't connect anything important to it you fucks! How hard is this to understand?? Apparently it's very hard to understand from the single digit IQ dumbasses in charge. That or they are willingly giving all that data to enemies.
No, no, you don't get it at all. If they only had a slightly larger budget, they could connect to the interwebs, download their porn, and not get hacked.
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(translation) head of US Cyber force says: US Cyber force needs more resources.
Quelle fucking suprise, bitchez.
More Moneeeeeeeeeeeeey
Translation: Be afraid. Keep obeying.
Good article over at the slog http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/cyberpolitics-how-technological-w...
It takes a thief, to recognize a thief.
.Gov is playing second fiddle.
Repeat after me, boys and girls: Protection racket.
"Boy, those are some mighty fine computers you got over there... Would be a shame if some Chinese could hack it and steal all your data, wouldn't it? Pay up. Or something just might happen to your precious computer over there."
please, Please, PLEASE....RAISE MY TAXES!!!! Please!!!
Do you enjoy your servitude? Let me guess you believe vaccines, fluoride, gmo's and mind altering pharmaceuticals are all good for you.
If they weren't, why would our omniscient, omnibenevolent 'leaders' press them on us?
PS - you left out chemtrails and open-air nuclear weapons testing. They're all really good for us, too.
That is the double edges sword. The govmint systems are set to suck in ALL data traveling the web so it is inevitable that they bring in trojan horses.
good point. there's all sorts of layers to this including political economic social power or even identity becoming disconnected with geography. an increasing difficulty discerning between real events and false ones, real enemies and false ones.....
This establishment charges an X percent tax to support the war effort Y. If you don't like it don't shop here. We also charge a Z percent tax for social services.
If you are able to distinguish between the X,Y,Z we have a job for you. Timmay is long retired.
Download their child porn that is.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundred...
Wonder why we don't here about that any more?
Sure. But then there goes the excuse for having an internet kill switch, or the necessity of CISPA, FISA, and so on....
That's for the domestic rabble........
Sir, I am immediately offended that you have raised the status of mere domestics to Rabble! If only we could achieve such heights.
Things don't need to be connected to the internet to get owned.
Private and government networks have been getting hacked since before the internet existed.
"What we're seeing in cyber is going to continue and it's going to grow and it's going to get worse,"
...so we'll need more money and control.
...and we'll need to take away more of your freedom...for your own good, of course.
...and we will stick you with the bill.....
Uh, huh. Color me skeptical. Part of me thinks this is just so much disinformation. Let the Chinese believe they've hbacked us when they've just stolen plans that will make them chase their tails. We did the same to the Russians in the Eighties.
Of course, a lot of stuff is on the (supposedly secure) SIPRNet. If someone got into that, I could see them walking away with a treasure trove.
KKR names former CIA head Petraeus as chairman of new institute
Petraeus will also support KKR's investment teams in the diligence process, particularly in considering investments in new geographies, KKR said on Thursday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/30/us-kkr-petraeus-idUSBRE94T0D82...
They should listen to me and develop a security software package that mimics the white blood cells of a human. You release patrol codes in the system and then circulate around the network looking for foreign code. The white blood cell is based on a DNA specific script, and if it finds a foreign organisms (hackers) it will signal other cells to come and attack creating a cascading feedback loop. Don't these fools know anything?
Centralization institutionalizes ignorance.
Excoooose me, Gen. Alexander, or Gen. Electric, or Gen. Jackhole or what the eff your name is bozo!
I wasn't an officer, just enlisted during the draft and combat time, but allow me to brief your sorry pathetic lamer butt, Gen. Electric!
If you ship ALL the jobs, ALL the technology, ALL the investment, and Billygoat Clinton and Geo. Weasel Bushie hand over the most advanced defense tech to them, then frigging China will be able to hack your butt of whenever they want, especially as all you jackholes have now wasted multiple generations of tech talent in Amerika, dood!
When the DoD, that's where you work, douchebagger, gives Microsoft operating systems the top (most secure) O-ring rating, and Microsoft hands over the source code for their operating systems to China, what the eff did you expect, Gen. Douchebagging Electric?
STFU, West Point crapola!
but they can stop bitcoin,tor, kim dotcom, file sharing in general bla bla bla....
Why would they stop tor, if it was their idea?
Nobody can stop Thor!
He will strike your feeble ass down with One Swing of His Mighty Thunder Hammer
Ever notice how a bunch of nerds sitting around, talking about World of Warcraft sound just like Thor?
5th level charisma modifier, anyone?
(Crickets)
Quit trying to monitor message boards and spend more time protecting your own firewall
Apparently US citizens exercising their right to free speech in spreading the ideas of limited government and individual liberty are a much greater threat to the elites than are sworn adversaries acting in their official capacity.
Fuck you Langley!
Suck my cock and massage my balls!
Bitches keep wasting my hard earned tax dollars . . .
That's bitchez, bitchez....
It also seems to be the case that the US war machine will be quite unprepared for the upcoming silver shortages..
Yes, but we're doing a great job of watching old ladies at airports and keeping track of folks that compalin about owebami. So, all in all, I feel pretty good about it.
as long as nobody hacks into the CIA's secret bank accounts it's all good
Like they would admit it.....probably been hacked once a week since the 60s.
You look at alternate 911 story lines, and what a better way to withdrawl from a secret black CIA account, than with a hack. Down the rabbit hole with all of you.
All this is is another one of those "Oh shit look at that boogeyman. We need money to stop the new threat."
Meanwhile, they're busy releasing things like stuxnet and training the world how to get them more funding.
And replicating the 1918 flu virus 'to learn about it'...
And passing "Big Fucking Deal" bills so they can figure out what's in 'em
maniacal laughter
Thank you, and exactly, malikai, good citizen, exactly!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
China,
Burn down this House of thieves, this CONgress and its AshkeNAZI, its fraud, lies and corruption which hates all, and exploits all worldwide - as is the aim of its Trilateral Commission.
Get the FEDs and their mercinaries off of our Internet.
if you dont want anybody to know about it dont do it.
"Don't tell anyone I said that."
-Anonomyous
One of the main reasons why we should all fight for a prosperous middle class based on property rights, markets and laws that prevent insane bankster crime is that technology WILL level all the playing fields and WILL shrink the globe.
We need to end communism in China, fuedal monarchies in the Middle East AND psychopathic corporate fascism in the USSA.
Or a LOT of things will 'continue and grow and get worse.'
Assuming that a perpetual debt-fueled arms and IT race can be won, instead of working for normalcy and a chance at a decent living throughout the world, is truly dumb. At least as dumb as the Soviets.
I'd say the US is pretty much past the point of no return as far as a return to debt normalcy
Nice words. Too late.
Digital bread crumb trail....to find our way back just in case....
Your words are too clever for yours and mine.
As for trails, mine is safest.
Aren't skid-marks safer?
They're your own that very few others ever see let alone want to explore....
-Geriatric Humor
Always funny and smart, knukles.
Anyhooo, I am rather irritated with empty promises from political types which is why my words get fiercer.
Thx and I'm in your camp...
Humor becomes more necessary every day as the madness spreads.
Yep. Humor is its own weapon sometimes, and own refuge often. We will prevail. This is our country, our land, our people.
It is not for the AshkeNAZI, the globalists who funded Hitler and care nothing for jew, gentile or any American.
1776 and all that. Our country.
runaway post
Jim, "We"?
Who the fuck is "We"? You mean like "you and me, we"?
Communism has been dead in China for a very long time, and furthermore "We" need to take care of our own problems before we take care of the rest.
Ya know, I am simply going to agree with you. Salute.
We're on the same page here.
I'd already upvoted you.
Fuck that. Just build a self contained system in Fort Knox. Shoot, there is plenty of room there. And that place is secure to the max.
just drone strike that pimpled faced kid in the garage. don't forget to take responsibility. apologize to the parents and "little sis." nuff said.
Durr, let's offshore electronic component and software manufacturing/testing to countries with little to no vested interest in maintaining our global hegemony..
So smart, just think of the profits! Also, at the same time, lets relegate to intellectual property laws the task of making sure the riaa makes a profit, you wouldn't download a CAR would you? Also patent trolling on basic fucking universal concepts.
The us legal system is a joke, fucking idiots.
Feds and anyone attached deserve what they get.
Traitors.
china? what about turkey? Kazakhstan and Tunisia?
and Tahiti , plumb island and Crete? etc ...
never mind Iran, Israel and Switzerland.
or where was bcci located?
"Bank of Credit and Commerce International
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Bank of Credit and Commerce International
Bcci logo.jpg
Industry
Banking
Fate
Liquidation / Forced closure
Defunct
1991
Headquarters
London (incorporated in Luxembourg)
Key people
Agha Hasan Abedi (Founder)
Employees
approx. 30,000
The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a major international bank founded in 1972 by Agha Hasan Abedi, a Pakistani financier.[1] The Bank was registered in Luxembourg with head offices in Karachi and London.
"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International
if you're vulnerable, then you do not market to the world that you're vulnerable...
Sure you do, because then they'll think that you aren't vulnerable... because no rational person would advertise their vulnerability, thereby protecticing your vulnerability in plain sight...
Or some such thing.
And also: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"
Now quick, ask Congress for more money! There's no banker money (debt) with world peace....
"all we need to know is am i who i say i am." Larry Ellison...September 12th, 2001. "that would have only saved TRILLIONS of dollars." Just listen to that guy...move along.
what if they hack into the federal reserve and start printing bilions and billions of electronic dollars every month to collapse the system!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!......oh...wait.............
Collapsing government bridges, easily comprimised government computer systems, numerous scandals involving government agencies.....
I know!!!! Let's give the government more money!
Let them rot, and try to extract more money from the minority who pay tax. Good luck with that, AshkeNAZI international financiers who funded Hitler and care nothing about ordinary jews, gentiles nor anyone else.
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buuuuuuut
if a war goes hot, that internet killswitch is sure gonna come in handy.
How do you say, "Cut the undersea cables" in German?
"Cut ze untersee keyblss"?
I guess it's true what Obama says when he refers to this as "the most transparent administration in history".
Man, where's my Adderall?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j083KUmvxE (6:43)
china built the computer hardware, ask them to help you with the software too. bitchez.
Regarding the content of the article,
there is propaganda oozing out of every pore of my monitor.
How many guns do you have?? Are you ready?
US foreign policy is arranged in tel aviv and the israelis have backdoor access to essential military systems, and sayanim throughout USA. So to think this story is even an issue, is naive.
I think you misunderstand the special relationship which is evolving, not set in your concrete.
Of course, the US isn't infiltrating Chinese computers!
Heaven forbid!
“We maintain full confidence in our weapons platforms."
These people must be the biggest morons on the planet to say this and outsource everything to China
There's some truth in what you said. There are no weapons systems that are made of 100% US parts. Most components are made in China. If we went to war with them they'd shut us down before we got started. We are way too over-confident in our ability to wage war against a real opponent.
Can you name a Chinese component manufacturer ? If you are referring to electronic component, they are mostly made in Taiwan, not China.
So they could dish it out (i.e. stuxnet), but they were not prepared to take it? Assholes. Does this qualify as 'blowback'?
It qualifies as Eurasia (Orwell).
Constant war for the oligarchs, Big Brother. More fool you for thinking otherwise.
China is hacking everything and it plays Japan's markets like a yo yo. Eventually it will get all evil with USTs, no problems, burst that juicy housing bubble and take out the stock and bond markets at the same time. The reality is we are in a cold war, its just a bizarre world at this point time, probably similar to pre- Roman collapse, Roman holidays and everything is fine, yet the barbarians were at the gates and the sh*t was about to hit.
The dependence that the world has on China is shameful, we have invited that commie, polluted, disease ridden, corrupt, zombie wasteland at our peril.
Then there is Japan losing it's marbles:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732441260457851472408767768...
The Chinese have the power to finish off the US anytime they want to. Combine a dump of their treasuries (US rates soar and interest on debt skyrockets), revalue the yuan (causing all the Chinese products to increase in price- and hence high inflation), use the more powerful yuan to buy up resources, and have a ton of Cyber attacks on the markets, defense and everything else.
To the contrary, China is completely dependent upon the USA. The US could manufacture everything here if our cost basis wasn't so inflated by government waste and subsidy. China needs our purchases of their manufactured goods to keep its youth unemployment rates down and prevent civil unrest. China also needs food imports. The US has all the resources it needs domestically.
Smart weapons only go so far. Boots on the ground are still king. That's why the largest army on earth, the American gun owner, will still be standing when the dust settles.
Standing tall and looking good... ought to be in Hollywood...
Bullshit - they've been waiting on this.
How else can you justify WAR without declaring WAR?
The military network, specially the one's requiring secret clearance, is not on the internet. You can't hack military net from china. This is probably true in every country and reason for requiring stunxnet virus to spread via memory stick, in person. Furthermore the so called chinese hackers are probably in many cases russians or US operative who hacked into chinese computers using them to hack back to other sites, .. All just a prelude to internet version of "9/11" and complete lockdown of internet.
Yeah, but the contractors are. Very little, if any, technical work is actually done by the DoD itself.
"The Military is Unprepared for Hacking"
Bullshit. Then where the fuck have the military been for the past 30yrs? The billions upon billions spent on DARPA, Cyber warfare division of the Pentagon - so that money was completely wasted, was it? He should be fired for being so incompetent.
The Pentagon needs more cash right? Did this year's Afghan poppy crop not yield as much heroin as they expected? Or am I thinking of the CIA?
General Alexander must be the only guy on the planet who doesn't know that American IT workers have been routinely outsourcing their work to China & India, claiming the work as their own for years. I mean it's so prevalent the Onion did a piece about it a few months ago after a high profile news item about "Programmer Bob" who got fired after receiving plaudits and bonuses for "his" work that was revealed to be outsourced.
The same private IT companies the Pentagon hires outsource their coding to China. I know, you can't make it up. So, in effect, the general wants more money to hack American infrastructure which in turn will lead to asking for more money to protect these interests from his own hackers. Ad infinitum.
There is a serious side to this farce. With all the talk of cyber warfare, offensive strategies, and playing the victim complex (Even though the Pentagon has been the world's oldest, aggressive and sophisticated hacker for decades), the result of a cyber war can only be detrimental and crippling to innocent civilians who may download their malware designed to shutdown systems like Stuxnet.
We grew up with hackers who tested the limits of their knowledge and intellect by getting into protected systems since the 1980's. Then came the arseholes who wrote malware for fun, then the perverts who wrote spyware, then the organized criminals who do a combination for financial gain. This is nothing new, except the organized criminals these days dishonour us by wearing military uniforms, and demanding protection money. Smedley Butler always comes to mind - this is racketeering on a global scale.
For some reason, the DoD seems to think that its mission is to redistribute wealth rather than defend the Constitution of the United States.
If the DoD would start taking its mission, to defend the Constitution of the United States, seriously, then it might actually gain some sympathy.
Until then, it's just another welfare-state-institution whining because it's not empowered to plunder taxpayers further.
No sympathy.
Agreed, except that he should be shot.
In many cases, the DoD awards service contracts based not upon technical merit but upon some notion of whether or not the potential contractor represents an ethnic group that has, at some time in the past, been a victim "white privilege".
It's no wonder that neither the norks nor the Chi-coms, nor anyone else for that matter, take the USG seriously.
The Chinese were allowed access to the designs of these weapons systems. This is an old game, with new players. The US government and it's corporate & banking elites funded and provided the Soviet Union with much of the same information for over six decades. Now, it is the Chinese turn at bat. What we are witnessing is the creation of another cold war. It began twenty years ago, when the Soviets imploded. First, we allowed China into the WTO. Then the Clinton administration sold them MIRV technology, along with computer security encryption protocols. God knows what else they have provided them with. Oh, I forgot to mention all of our industrial base that was stripped away and handed to them on a silver platter. This is being done to feed the military industrial complex and their financiers {bankers}. When enough money has been made off of this scam, they will collapse China, just like they did the Soviet Union. At least that is their plan. They may have under estimated their fellow player in this game.
Why worry about hacking?!? Our "alies," the Israeli's are eager to sell or give our secrets to China and Russia! Israel is the worst possible "ally" anyone could have!
Translation: when all of the money gets Corzined - the China-men did it.
Thank you for opting-in.
To solve this problem, follow the example of Steve Jobs at Apple and outsource the U.S. Cyber Command to a mainland Chinese vendor, a company that supplies cybersecurity services. No need for General Alexander anymore, so fire him. Tell him he can keep his uniform but turn in his government laptop.
You don't suppose that having chianeese and injuns programming all the computers in US corporations over the past 15 years has set us up for anything bad to happen? You know all those programmers the corps had to have here on H1B Visas because there weren't enough 'qualified' programmers here in the US that were US citizens? The word qualified meaning, willing to work for 1/10th what the normal programmer was getting. Do you know the chianeese and injuns have even been working on our US gubmint computer systems. Can't possibly see any problem there.
edit: apologies to YHC-FTSE below who pretty much said the same thing. Much more eloquently, IMHO
Hell, even pervs and drug dealers know how to use PGP encryption. But I suppose pervs and drug dealers have already proven that they are smarter than the fucks at the NSA.
@YHC-FTSE. Absolutely,yet another example of racketeering on a global scale.
Fits right in with creating digital trillions,pumping up the ultimate bubble-and then...??
Not all the hacking is coming from inside China. Our universities and corporations are full of Chinese nationals who, I am convinced, for the most part report up a chain of command to the Chinese intelligence apparatus. I am sure that many of these undercover agents have completely hacked the system where they study or work. So it is at least partly an inside job. And I don't see the military, the government, the universities or the corporations doing squat about it. Give termites long enough and they will hollow out and bring down the most solidly built structure. Not, unfortunately, that the American cyber-system is that solid to begin with.
You're correct, but about 15 years out of date.
I remember running the financials for a top University, and collecting over £500k in a single day, all in freshly minted £50 notes in brown envelopes from a long line of Chinese MBAs. We were logging them in for the better part of a week, for all types of STEM courses.
Unlike the modern sort, these produced their exam results with pride (and hadn't faked their EL certs). Unlike the Europeans, where there's 1-3 topics, max (call it six for the baccalauréat), this was a list of 50 with subjects such as "calculus", "military tactics" and "leadership and strategy".
True story. People forget that when you've got a billion people, the first wave is going to be the ones you know are coming back.