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The US Economy Is "Off The Lows"

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In the case of the five year simple moving average of US real GDP growth, or said otherwise - true economic growth (or technically credit expansion) - all one can say is "off the lows."

A quick point: since GDP is really consolidated financial liabilities, which includes the deposit-to-reserve liability match courtesy of the Fed ...

... do not, repeat DO NOT, exclude the $2.5 trillion in credit injected into the $16 trillion US economy by Ben Bernanke, or suddenly one may grasp just how 15% of US GDP is entirely thanks to the Fed.

h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer

 

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Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:42 | 3610178 sudzee
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Green shoots.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:44 | 3610190 bank guy in Brussels
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Scotty of Star Trek

« I'm givin' her all she's got ! »

http://static.neatoshop.com/images/product/5/1605/Im-Giving-Her-All-Shes...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 11:16 | 3610530 spine001
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Captain Kirk, "No matter increase power Scotty.." Scotty: "But captain, she is going to blow..." Kirk: "You heard it, increase power!"

QE to infinity and beyond, to go where no central banker has gone before...

 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 11:40 | 3610603 Groundhog Day
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"this ship can't sink!"

 "the ship is made of iron and steel, it is a mathematical certainty the titanic will flounder, and be at the bottom of the atlantic"

 

Titanic

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:45 | 3610196 ZippyBananaPants
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I had some green shoots in my pants after the 'big salad' at Western Sizzler yesterday!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:56 | 3610238 Sudden Debt
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Yeah.... clearly we're on the track to recovery like we've been for the last 5 years.

 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:04 | 3610274 Stuck on Zero
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I see a light at the end of the tunnel. 

 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:16 | 3610312 Skin666
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It's the fucking train, man!

RUN

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:44 | 3610186 orangegeek
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Bank liabilities up.  GDP up.  Quite the strategy.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:49 | 3610210 LawsofPhysics
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Exactly.  No real value being added as more and more of the GDP is simply pushing bullshit paper promises around.  The paper promises and liabilities are growing exponentially, the value of the underlying assets/collateral, not so much.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:38 | 3610382 Crash Overide
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What happens when you ask them to make good on their promise?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:40 | 3610393 ATM
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DRONE STRIKE IN 3...2...1....

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:59 | 3610459 matrix2012
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Yet at least some can have the chest-thumping illusion claiming the #1 economy in this planet having that many trillions GDP... however absurd it is! lol

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:23 | 3611594 Spigot
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Most Excellent: paper movement = GDP. Why not!? How intensely cleaver of them. We could have a Quadrillion $$$ economy just by moving paper back and forth on a desktop, with robo-signatures of course!

This is how we get GDP growth even with dropping energy consumption, constantly declining work force participation, droping average hourly wages, etc.

A completely frictionless, supply/demand free boost in wealth.

(puke)

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:44 | 3610188 Temporalist
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Maria Bartiromo will be so thrilled!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:44 | 3610191 francis_sawyer
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Things are always darkest in the moment just before they go pitch black...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:46 | 3610200 robochess
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Hed, hed, hee........ha, ha, haaa........ LOL LOL LOL ...........Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:54 | 3610218 francis_sawyer
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Well ~ looking at that chart, at least it's now easy to see why in the mid 60's... Jumpin Jack Flash, it was a gas, gas, gas...

~~~

The "movie", which came out in 1986, appears to have been the right shoulder failure...

So I guess we can blame it all on Whoobi Goldberg...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:56 | 3610239 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess Bennie and the FEDS were singing I see red traditional bank liabilities and want to paint them black.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:21 | 3610325 greatbeard
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Michael, is that you, bro?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:45 | 3610193 de3de8
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But we're in recovery!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:45 | 3610195 q99x2
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Holy hootenanny.looks like opossum soup and tators for the rest of the year.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:57 | 3610244 Pure Evil
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Your lucky, the rest of us get to eat insects as recommended by the UN.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:49 | 3610212 DaveyJones
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off the lows

or on the meds?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:39 | 3610384 tip e. canoe
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is there a difference these days?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:50 | 3610214 venturen
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A market of extend and pretend. 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:50 | 3610215 fonzannoon
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never discount this markets ability to go moar retardererer

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:51 | 3610216 NoDebt
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Yeah, that's pretty much what it feels like out here on main street.  Dead fish hit the deck in 08' and hasn't moved since.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:52 | 3610219 thismarketisrigged
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is anyone watching the market on level 2?

 

the averages have just shot up on what some seems like absolutely no volume. and on absolutely no news.

 

it just shot up 70 pts dow, 10 s&p and 25 nasdaq.

 

guess it makes sense.

 

gdp lower then expected, jobless claims rise, all is good

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:54 | 3610227 fonzannoon
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Down the hall from my office is a full blown chop shop, We listen to these guys make cold calls. 1990's cold calls...

"I trust you have a pen handy!"

"If I were doing any better i'd be laying on a beach with supermodels!!

Anyway, what fascinates us is, they land accounts. There are still suckers being born at a very rapid pace.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:01 | 3610255 the not so migh...
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thats law of averages, 100 power calls you always get one.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:24 | 3610335 fonzannoon
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They are well over that ratio.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:55 | 3610229 doomandbloom
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did you buy the dip?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:55 | 3610446 Pure Evil
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I double dipped the dip.

For proof, see the first chart and the double " V " all the way to the right.

That's me spreading green shoots to help with our economic recovery.

If you look at it long enough it kinda looks like a set of pointy hooters.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 09:55 | 3610231 Glass Seagull
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Poppin' bahttles

Flippin' cahndahs

Wreckin' Mahzdahs

Eatin' lahbstahs

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:02 | 3610261 monopoly
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Off the lows. Gotta love it. And speaking of off the lows so is gold and silver. If I were short now I think I may need a change of clothes. But the bears did have a great run. Time to ring the register and go long all.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:14 | 3610305 SheepDog-One
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OMG! FED success at last!! YES!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:14 | 3610306 Yen Cross
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     The $ is getting taken to the woodshed, and the markets are up. Need moar POMO>

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:26 | 3610342 rwe2late
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Of course, the GDP is calculated using an officially very exact unquestionably precise measure of inflation.

The "consumption" of financial "services" doubtless helps the GDP calculation also.

By the way,

how is the purchase of government IOUs with newly printed fiat in order to finance the government deficit counted? Is that "investment"?

Just asking.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:40 | 3610391 Winston Churchill
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Prolly gets counted twice in that GDP calc.
When created, and when spent.
Fucked is not adequate to the situation.
The deflationary collapse has only been delayed.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:38 | 3610381 docj
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Gee, and it only cost - what? - $5T in direct cash generation from Da Fed and Fed.GOV plus another $15T or so in indirect subsidies.

Cheap at twice the price.

[/sarc - yeah]

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:44 | 3610404 eaglerock
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AS they say, so low you need to look up to see the belly of a snake.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:48 | 3610424 The Invisible Foot
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I thought GDP was going to be 3% plus!, oh yeah thats right...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 10:50 | 3610431 Dan Conway
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Lower peaks and lower lows.  Forward!  Winning!  Whatever! 

We are so screwed!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 11:11 | 3610507 Vooter
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Here's a good video of what can happen when something bounces off its lows. Notice the lows at 0:03 and 0:07:

http://youtu.be/uFrHIypUVOY

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 11:29 | 3610573 Meremortal
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All the statistics coming out are fake and manipulated, but we can use them to make charts showing what's really going on!

 

Wait...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 12:17 | 3610688 topspinslicer
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Next time I see a drunk get off his knees and am sure he is done vomitting I am going to start applauding like crazy, a standing ovation

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 13:37 | 3610922 Minburi
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WTF??  Yahoo has a link to this article!!

ZH just lost its credibility big time!

I may have to withdraw from here.

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