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Virtually Entire US Media Boycotts "Off The Record" Meeting With Eric Holder

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The New York Times, The Associated Press, The Huffington Post, CNN and now, of course, Fox News: these are the media organizations, superficially from across the political spectrum, which have said they will boycott a meeting with the DOJ's embattled head, Eric Holder, on the topic of the DOJ's (not to mention the NSA's) Nixonian abuse of the first amendment and eavesdropping wherever and whenever it so chooses. The twist: the meeting is, paradoxically, supposed to be "off the record." One wonders: was this the DOJ's idea of being open and transparent - to hold a closed door meeting with the same media that it, allegedly, has been spying on, and thus put the media whose job is to report events - as in keeping the public informed - in a place where it can't do precisely that? It is as if the Marx Brothers are writing the tragicomic script for a sequence of events that inevitably ends with Holder's resignation and Obama's washing his hands of the whole affair.

From The Hill:

Fox is just the latest media organization to say it will boycott the meeting if it is off the record. Holder asked for the meetings in an attempt to ensure the press corps that its investigations of national security leaks are conducted in a way that respects the First Amendment.


The New York Times, The Associated Press, The Huffington Post and CNN have issued separate statements saying they will not attend because the DOJ is requiring the content of the meetings stay confidential.


Fox is at the center of the controversy surrounding the Justice Department’s investigation of national security leaks.


The DOJ seized the personal emails of Fox News chief Washington correspondent James Rosen and used other surveillance methods to investigate whether he was complicit in a leak of classified information.


It also examined his phone records and tracked his visits to the State Department using security-badge data during the 2009 probe; the DOJ also filed legal papers saying he may have acted as “an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator” by getting materials from a government official also under investigation.


The House Judiciary Committee is now investigating whether Holder lied under oath during his May 15 testimony before the panel, in which he said he’s never been involved with or heard about a reporter being prosecuted for the disclosure of confidential material.


Fox News host Greta Van Susteren joked on her blog Thursday that if Fox was going to be the only media outlet attending the off-the-record meeting, they should send Rosen to meet with Holder.

It's good to know that as what little remaining constitional rights are stripped away by a government hell bent on converting the country to a "turnkey totalitarian state" (not our words, those of the NSA whistleblower who exposed that there is no privacy in the US anymore) and for whom the rule of law simply does not apply, is a laughing matter to someone.


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Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:03 | 3611001 ekm
Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611019 nope-1004
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The Onion hasn't boycotted yet.... s'all good!


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:19 | 3611059 freewolf7
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Finally. Maybe the press is growing a pair, doing their J.O.B..

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:24 | 3611073 duo
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Historians now believe that 10-30% of FDR's diplomatic staff, aides, and even cabinet may have been double agents during WWII.  Somehow, our president has managed not to have any subversives in his administration of how many thousand?  If a million people have security clearances and 0.1% are spies, that's still 1000 spies.

Just because someone is working for the Feds doesn't mean they have our best interests in mind.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:28 | 3611104 F. Bastiat
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Stuart Chase is perhaps the most infamous. In fact, Chase provided the blueprint for today's progressives:


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:40 | 3611143 SilverIsKing
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This is all going according to the script.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:13 | 3611233 DeadFred
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A couple weeks ago Holder said he can't remember exactly how many times he's signed off on seizing reporters' records in leak investigations.

'Never' isn't hard to remember. Once or twice are also not so tough. How many times do you have to do something before things start to fuzz on the details. I guess not many if you're part of the Obama regime.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:21 | 3611763 Son of Loki
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"It's Fuzzy."

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:38 | 3611309 Meat Hammer
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Meanwhile in Benghazi...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:55 | 3611184 NotApplicable
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FDR himself was a friggin double agent! Without him, "Uncle Joe" would've had a few million less people to subject to Communism.

Thanks Wall St. Thanks a lot.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:18 | 3611244 Opinionated Ass
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Speaking of Uncle Joe Stalin, his erstwhile pal Adolf here seems to think Holder screwed up with the Boston Bombing Hoax. Maybe that briefing will be off-the-record too.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:36 | 3611638 Kirk2NCC1701
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Speaking of the 'BB Hoax'... I knew immediately something was 'fishy' when I heard the newsman say that the other suspect was shot dead by an FBI agent, "because he made some martial arts move".  I smelled "execution".

Well, here it is:

/ I particularly like the defensive shot to the 'back of the head' . /s

And didn't a couple of FBI agents on the case die in a helicopter accident?  All genuine, no doubt.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:42 | 3611320 Rustysilver
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Sir Winston Churchill was also of great help with that.

Check FDR and Churchill work in WW I.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:20 | 3611426 americanspirit
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Hi Rusty Silver - also check Prescott Bush and while you're at it check John Foster Dulles and his son Allen. Not just Nazi sympathizers - Nazi enablers. Of course a huge proportion of the American upper classes were also in that camp - these were just some of the more spectacular traitorous bastards.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:03 | 3612983 Kobe Beef
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Hi American Spirit,

According to Greg Hallet, Hitler trained at Tavistock, February-November 1912, and died in Spain, 1947, of a heart attack. Naturally, there is little documentation of this, but some circumstantial evidence. Of course, Abwehr Chief of Military Intelligence, Wilhelm Canaris' role as an MI6 agent has been revealed.

As for the documented, there's the Bush and Dulles connection at Harriman, and Jacob Schiff & the Warburg brothers backing the Bolsheviks. Funny, Schiff and Paul Warburg were also among the participants at Jekyll Island.

Fucking Illuminati. How much mass murder?

When will the true history of World Wars I and II be revealed?



Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:54 | 3611357 aerojet
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Just having a clearance does not give you access to all information classified at that level.  It is compartmentalized and you have to have a need to know. 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 19:05 | 3611893 Jugdish
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Don't they have cosmic clearances and then something beyond that as well? Any dis/mis-info spooks trolling care to expound?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:36 | 3611464 Totentänzerlied
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It means the exact opposite, government-loving troll.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:27 | 3611097 A Lunatic
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The press are a bunch of hypocritical, Socialist scumbags that Boycott the truth more often than not, as they don't seem to give a shit about the government fucking us over.......

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:34 | 3611121 SheepDog-One
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Yep, the ONLY time the media got their feathers in a bit of a ruffle here is when they realized the guys who they suck up to and cover up all they do were also screwing THEM over personally....but it was all good when they thought WE were only getting screwed over.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:37 | 3611302 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Yep, I got a recent email which showed the following relationships:

White House Spokesman --> wife works for ABC

Hillary Clinton's dep. secretary Tom Nides ---> wife Virginia Moseley pres of CNN

Obama official Ben Rhodes --> brother David Rhodes is pres of CBS

Obama special advisor Elizabeth Sherwood --> brother Ben Sherwood ABC president


I'm sure there's even more...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:22 | 3611429 americanspirit
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SWD - Alan Greenspan - wife is big-time White House correspondant Andrea Mitchell.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:04 | 3612985 Kobe Beef
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"oh, what a web we weave..."

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:31 | 3611113 SheepDog-One
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Unfortunately, far too late though. This is like finally realizing you need a life jacket and spot in a boat when youre clinging to the end rail of the Titanic.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:48 | 3611168 Go Tribe
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Tyer, aren't you a "media", so are you going or not?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:10 | 3611027 Upswaller
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Leading with Transparent Tyranny.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:19 | 3611062 gatorengineer
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Leading, hell he has won......

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:07 | 3611009 Dr. Engali
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Stupid fucking Brits. You should never have given up your guns in the first place....Dumbasses:


Britain Wants it's Guns Back:



Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:24 | 3611033 ZerOhead
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Jesus Mary and Joseph... THAT'S A MUST READ!!!

WTF has gotten into the Brits lately? MSM broadcasting too much news of political and banking sector malfeasance combined with the regular diet of riots and arson perhaps?

They must be beginning to feel much more uncomfortable these days knowing that the Huns are surrounding them on every front...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:57 | 3611188 Temporalist
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Good post Dr. E.


Here is a quote from the article with the poll:

"But statistics from the United States show that guns are used by citizens to defend themselves around eighty times more often than they are used to take a life. A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.""

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:06 | 3612987 Kobe Beef
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Citizen-held Small Arms fuck up the implementation of the NWO. Sounds like the Brits have woken up just in time.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:34 | 3611290 wee-weed up
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Yes, that Commentator article is a MUST READ! Thanks Dr E.

In fact, I'd like to see the Tylers devote an entire thread to that article...

It's that important!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:15 | 3611050 yogibear
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The brits have become feminized.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:27 | 3611101 F. Bastiat
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Socialism is like an ideological AIDS virus.  The Brits were infected right after WWII and are progressively committing cultural suicide.

If a nation wishes to survive, it must unequivocally reject the ideolgoical AIDS virus of socialism.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:08 | 3611219 denverdolomte
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I like that "Socialism is like an ideological AIDs virus" When the one that feeds on the source grows larger than the one producing there can be only a single outcome. 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:45 | 3611488 Totentänzerlied
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Fabianism was already 70 years old when WW2 ended. Get your facts straight.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:08 | 3612998 Kobe Beef
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Good point. And the Fabians form a direct link to the RIIA & CFR. 


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:20 | 3611068 NoDebt
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Kinda like Cyprus, but regarding guns.  Good read.

"Um, can we get a do-over on that whole bank bail-in thing?  No?"

"Um, can we gat a do-over on that whole giving up our guns thing?  No?"

YOU WILL NEVER GET A DO-OVER ON ISSUES LIKE THESE.  ONCE THEY'RE GONE, THEY'RE GONE AND THEY AIN'T COMIN' BACK.  So think long and hard before you give up stuff like this, even if it is "for the sake of the kids."

The man who trades liberty for safety deserves neither.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:37 | 3611296 Tsunami Wave
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Tell that to the precious, delicate, diva liberals and neo-conservatives, and see their egos and see their tempers at once explode. Those indoctrinated people don't think in logical terms like we do, nor understand that serious point you just made. They'll be the very first Americans to call for the NWO, the bigger bank to replace the Fed/ECB/BoE/etc, for a new constitution to be established or for our country to pledge ourselves to a foreign super-constitution, etc.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:59 | 3611373 aerojet
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Canada repealed its onerous firearms registry.  Just sayin'.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:26 | 3611093 F. Bastiat
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Lesson learned.

There will be no surrender of firearms in America. Period.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:27 | 3611099 krispkritter
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Wonder what the Aussie poll would look like? (besides being upside-down)

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:31 | 3611111 Colonel Klink
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So sorry, better luck next time.  Best they have is torches and pitchforks.  But don't worry the monarchy will protect you.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:16 | 3611238 bigrooster
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"Following the Dunblane massacre in 1996, in which 16 schoolchildren were killed, Parliament passed The Firearms Act of 1997, which essentially banned handguns for the atrocity."

Wow this is where they got the idea for Sandy Hook I guess. Too bad we are not a bunch of pussies like the UK.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:57 | 3611360 Meat Hammer
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Instead we sprinted to the firearms dealers and stocked up.  By "we" I mean everyone but me, of course.  


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:25 | 3611438 americanspirit
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Great post Dr.! Especially liked the quote "A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest." I'm doing my level best to help increase gun density - currently shopping for a Sig Sauer P226.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:06 | 3611013 gold mans sack
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"This meeting is off the record because you will be blindfolded and taken to a secret location and shown what happens to those who publish whistleblowers. Mind the maggots."

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:06 | 3611014 mjorden
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- " what little remaining constitional rights are stripped away by a government"


All we need are a few good judges to give some 'very' influential opionions and this problem will be fixed.


Fat chance.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:57 | 3611365 Nick Jihad
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Any judge is going to be predisposed to believe that the system is fundamentally sound, because it made them a judge.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:28 | 3611445 americanspirit
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Nick Jihad - I would agree that many judges are predisposed in favor of the system, but not all. There are at least a few who believe in the Constitution and not the system. May God bless them - and give pancreatic and/or brain cancer to the rest.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:47 | 3611503 viahj
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apparently ass cancer is a much worse way to go

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:06 | 3611015 ParkAveFlasher
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Fuck you Holder. 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:23 | 3611082 Go Tribe
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No...fuck you HIMPTON!

(that's his middle name, you know)

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:32 | 3611109 ParkAveFlasher
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WTF is "a Himpton"?  Sounds like Beltway regional slang for a middle-aged mullato bottom installed to a rubber-stamping position of false authority.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:32 | 3611116 Colonel Klink
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Himpton, kind of like Hampton but he wasn't invited.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:26 | 3611776 tradewithdave
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Actually, Himpton is a word.  It's when you have a "party for one" in the Hamptons.  It's called a Himpton... always has been... no invitation needed.  A Pimpton is when you pay people to come to the party... like "Lloyd's having a pimpton on Saturday with his $20 million salary... are you going?" 

And remember, there's no "I" in Justus, but there's an A in A-Team.  Actually there are two "A's" and a "T".  I pity the fool that has a counterparty when you can simply wear your wealth around your neck.  

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:30 | 3611107 azzhatter
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Fuck the Press too, bunch of commie sympathizers

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:06 | 3611016 JP McManus
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Oh, NOW they pretend to be journalists?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:12 | 3611038 DaveyJones
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since they work for (and are owned) by the same people who own the people holding these meetings....what's the point?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611047 NoDebt
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Don't get all worked up.  They are just applying leverage to make into an "on the record" news conference.  There's not much "solidarity" going on here.  They're just all individually seeing the same cards on the table and knowing it's time to double-down.


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:17 | 3611056 JustObserving
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And Holder pretends to be an Attorney General. Can we not all pretend together?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:23 | 3611081 NoDebt
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I jsut read a story that BPNN DOES plan to attend this off-the-record news conference.





The Black Panthers News Network.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:49 | 3611508 Totentänzerlied
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You supply the fake investigation, we'll supply the fake journalism.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:08 | 3611021 Dareconomics
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Obama and Bush have the same exact ideas on presidential power.  Specifically, war justifies unchecked power.  Since we are always in a state of war...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:08 | 3611022 alien-IQ
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FUCK the entirety of the US MSM. They didn't give a shit about the government spying on the people but now, suddenly, that they realize it's also happening to them they get all high and mighty and indignant about it? FUCK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM COCKSUCKERS STRAIGHT UP THEIR PROPAGANDA SPEWING TIGHT ASSES.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:22 | 3611080 freewolf7
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It works to pit criminals against each other.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:08 | 3611023 DollarMenu
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I can't help but feel that even tho these performers are stumbling, they are still distracting attention from the main event.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:11 | 3611035 NoDebt
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And you think this situation is unique in that respect?  You are NEVER allowed to see the main event.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611024 DaveyJones
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the back door is the front door when the terrorist is the liberator.

it all makes sense

correction, cents

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:09 | 3611026 ekm
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Darrell Issa seems to be after CFTC's Gary Gensler about private emails during Corzine's rain of other people's money.


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:19 | 3611063 ZerOhead
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Nope... nothing to see here... Gensler even told us so himself...

The report questioned whether it was proper for Gensler to recuse himself from handling MF Global (MFGLQ.PK), which collapsed in 2011, only after he played a prominent role in the events leading up to the firm's bankruptcy.

Gensler decided to distance himself from the brokerage only after it collapsed, and after Senator Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, publicly raised concerns over his prior business relationship with MF Global Chief Executive Jon Corzine.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:25 | 3611092 Bay of Pigs
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FREE Jon Corzine!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:38 | 3611133 ZerOhead
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FREE Gensler's emails...

When questioned about it, Gensler told Lavik he used his private email because he did not know how to access his work e-mail from home. He has since ceased the practice.

He swears his dog accidentally deleted his emails...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:10 | 3611732 pine_marten
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Free Gensler's entrails..

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:27 | 3611098 ParkAveFlasher
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Issa likes to pretend he's doing "the right thing".  Just another shakedown.  Although they are starting to shake down all my favorite anti-gold people.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:02 | 3611201 NotApplicable
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I about puked when I read this line.

Gensler, an Obama appointee, is unpopular among Republican politicians for his aggressive reform of Wall Street.

Obviously, NONE of those words mean what I believe them to be.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:18 | 3611591 WillyGroper
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>>>>The report also questioned his use of personal email to communicate with staff, saying the practice was discouraged by government policy.

Horseshit. I'd bet my eye teeth it's expressly forbidden!

>>>Gensler told Lavik he used his private email because he did not know how to access his work e-mail from home

And I'm King Farouk.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:11 | 3611032 krispkritter
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Marx Brothers were funny, this shit isn't.  It smells of corruption, obfuscation, and the complete disregard for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  The people aren't politicians or employees, they're traitors.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611048 Joe Davola
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You can say that again.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:10 | 3611227 SilverIsKing
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I'll do the honors:

Marx Brothers were funny, this shit isn't.  It smells of corruption, obfuscation, and the complete disregard for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  The people aren't politicians or employees, they're traitors.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:24 | 3613042 Kobe Beef
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I have a sinking suspicion that the folks talking about UNITED STATES OF AMERICA being a completely different thing than The United States Of America are right.

One is a registered corporation created in 1871, owned by the Federal Reserve System since 1933 and operated under British Maritime Law by the City Of London, and the other was a Constitutional Republic founded in 1789.

I am not a lawyer, and recognize when I'm in over my head. Any professional thoughts/speculations from the Hedge?


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:03 | 3611205 CrimsonAvenger
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Well, sometimes it's a matter of either laughing or being led away in shackles.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:11 | 3611034 krispkritter
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Bad mouse, bad, bad mouse...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:12 | 3611036 Joebloinvestor
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You got brass ones Eric.


Yeah, lets' secretly discuss re-writing the 1st amendment, and invite the press.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:31 | 3611110 azzhatter
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Might be brass but I'll bet they are tiny. fuck You Holder

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:41 | 3611145 Dapper Dan
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NY Democrat pleads with Republican not to share document proposing confiscation of guns A New York Assemblyman has pleaded with his Republican colleague not to release a list of Democrat proposals on gun control that seek to undermine the 2nd Amendment

by The Commentator on 20 January 2013 14:43


The full list of proposals can be read below:

1. Confiscation of "assault weapons"
2. Confiscation of ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:33 | 3611459 americanspirit
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This is just politicians trying to give themselves an edge when TSHTF - the fewer guns there are out there, and the fewer rounds per gun, the better chance they have of escaping when the citizens finally come for them.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:06 | 3611213 NotApplicable
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Brass? NFW.

Holder is merely the latest example of why one never goes "full retard."

At this point he is so compromised it's the only action he has left. He just better hope he doesn't have to fly overseas in a plane last used by Hillary.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:12 | 3611037 Seeking Beta
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Started with Bush and Obama pumped it with steroids

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611044 caimen garou
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off the record? something to hide eric the dipshit? or to wrap the media a little tighter around obama's ass!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611045 Northeaster
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"for whom the rule of law simply does not apply, is a laughing matter to someone."

The People allowed (voted for) it, now they have to live with it.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:56 | 3611187 Things that go bump
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Please, as if we are being given an actual choice. We are given a carefully selected and approved red candidate and a carefully selected and approved blue candidate, both of whom are the same, only differing on minor and meaningless issues, such as abortion and gay marriage. Even the presidential offerings have to be interviewed and approved by Rothschild. What we've got is the illusion of choice rather than the substance of it. Our elections are about as meaningful as those farces they used to hold in the former Soviet Union or the ones Sadam Hussein used to hold or Juan Perron. 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:07 | 3611217 NotApplicable
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"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos."

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:14 | 3611046 imapopulistnow
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I'm even beginnig to wonder about Brietbart...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:09 | 3611222 Seasmoke
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Beginning ????

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:47 | 3611336 Tsunami Wave
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Just ask the medical examiner... Oh oops he was 'heart attacked' too.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:16 | 3611054 SmittyinLA
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How long before Holder plays the Boehner/Senate card? 

ie they knew and approved of/consented to  in live time Benghazi, IRS & non-profits, and pretty much every other nefarious thing the Obama admin does.

We have a bipartisan treason problem

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:28 | 3611102 Joe Davola
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Good god, it's time to quit allowing this administration to spread the blame around.  You're the chief executive and responsible when things go wrong just as well as when they go right.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:33 | 3611117 astoriajoe
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it would be fun to see him fake cry on camera. if only for laughs.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:21 | 3611071 ToNYC
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Mr. Holder is holding it as agreed.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:21 | 3611074 Go Tribe
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Hell, I'll attend. How do I get an invite?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:23 | 3611434 Meat Hammer
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I would love to have an off-the-record meeting with Eric...if you catch my drift.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:22 | 3611079 the black arrow
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Eric" the butcher of Waco" holder should hang for treason.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:24 | 3611086 F. Bastiat
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Thomas Jefferson, in "Notes on the State of Virginia", wrote extensively about the delusional nature of many of the mulattoes he had encountered.


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:36 | 3611129 Go Tribe
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Could find no mention of mullatoes, only of african albinos:

To this catalogue of our indigenous animals, I will add a short account of an anomaly of nature, taking place sometimes in the race of negroes brought from Africa, who, though black themselves, have in rare instances, white children, called Albinos. I have known four of these myself, and have faithful accounts of three others. The circumstances in which all the individuals agree are these. They are of a pallid cadaverous white, untinged with red, without any coloured spots or seams; their hair of the same kind of white, short, coarse, and curled as is that of the negro; all of them well formed, strong, healthy, perfect in their senses, except that of sight, and born of parents who had no mixture of white blood.

Three of these Albinos were sisters, having two other full sisters, who were black. The youngest of the three was killed by lightning, at twelve years of age. The eldest died at about 27 years of age, in child-bed, with her second child. The middle one is now alive in health, and has issue, as the eldest had, by a black man, which issue was black. They are uncommonly shrewd, quick in their apprehensions and in reply. Their eyes are in a perpetual tremulous vibration, very weak, and much affected by the sun: but they see better in the night than we do.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:20 | 3611150 F. Bastiat
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I'll locate the exact reference in NOTSOV; the meta-reference is Alf Mapp's "Strange Case of Mistaken Identity" book on Jefferson, Chapter X, entitled "Divine Discontent".

Pages 167-174

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:24 | 3611087 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Speaking of rule of law not applying equally to people more on GET OFF MY LAWN!

In case you missed it, Senator John McCain took the opportunity this Memorial Day to cross the Turkey-Syria border and hang out with Syrian rebels. These are the same rebels with ties to Al Qaeda. By Travis Thornton

United Liberty
May 30, 2013

These are the same rebels cutting out and eating the hearts of dead soldiers. According to reports, Senator McCain wanted to go further into combat but was not allowed.

And he calls us wacko-birds.

The consequences of Senator McCain’s calls to intervene in Syria and meddle further in a civil war could be quite grave, as Russia is sending anti-aircraft missiles to the Syrian regime. The use of chemical weapons has been reported – although it’s unsure which side is using them – with more attacks reported over the weekend.

There are further reports that most of our aid to the region is going to “hard-line Islamic jihadists.” In fact, the same day President Obama announced our recognition of the opposition, rebel groups across Syria signed a petition pledging allegiance to the Jihad and asking America by name not to intervene. It’s hard to imagine that twelve years after 9/11, Senator McCain would be calling for US foreign and military aid be given to “the Jihad.”

For more on the consequences of meddling in other countries’ civil wars in general, see my post here at United Liberty.

Violating NDAA

Interestingly enough, this is the same Senator McCain who championed NDAA 2012, which gives our government the right to indefinitely detain Americans for doing exactly what he did: supporting elements aligned with al-Qaeda. The provision from Section 1021 is as follows:

“Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain a person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.”

We should remember that Senator McCain fought Senator Rand Paul a year later (in December 2012) to keep that language in the law. What’s more, Senator McCain worked to throw out the Lee-Feinstein amendment that would have protected citizens from unlawful detention.  The amendment declared:

“An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.”

In a December 2012 statement about this Amendment, Senator Paul blamed Senator McCain for killing the amendment:

“The decision by the NDAA conference committee, led by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to strip the National Defense Authorization Act of the amendment that protects American citizens against indefinite detention now renders the entire NDAA unconstitutional.”

Paul went on:

“When the government can arrest suspects without a warrant, hold them without trial, deny them access to counsel or admission of bail, we have shorn the Bill of Rights of its sanctity.”

For more on NDAA 2012, see this video from Reason TV.

So in an interesting twist, by meeting with and lending comfort to Syrian rebels aligned with al Qaeda, Senator McCain is validating their actions, and could be indefinitely detained by the very law he fought to uphold. He can’t have this both ways. Either the law should be altered – I recommend repealing AUMF in its entirety – or he should cease and desist with his activity with the Syrian rebels. Otherwise, we live in a country with one set of laws for the lawmakers, and another for the rest of us.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:36 | 3611131 bank guy in Brussels
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And John McCain met in Syria with a known terrorist kidnapper of innocent people ...

Article with photo of McCain alongside his new terrorist-kidnapper friend:

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:23 | 3611435 marathonman
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You would think McCain would have some sensitivity to that kind of stuff, being locked up in a cage for years as a POW, but then again irony seems lost on Mr. McCain.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:26 | 3611246 Aurora Ex Machina
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How to make Syria worse?

Reported sarin gas seizure follows arrest of 12 suspected al-Nusra Front fighters in s Turkey [Channel 4 News, UK, 1 hour ago, was broadcast live so they're at least willing to run the story on Prime TimeTM]

At an operation of Turkish police to al-Nusra Front conducted at Adana, Turkey; 4.4 pounds of Sarin gas has been found. At the operation related to Reyhanli explosions, and possible future explosions at Adana province by al-Nusra, 12 militants were taken into custody. 5 of them were released by now and interrogation of the remaining 7 is still ongoing. Militants stated that they would be smuggling the gas into Syria. The question how they acquired/ recieved the gas is still unknown.

I couldn't find ANY English translation of this news in whole of the Internet, but nearly all Turkish media is writing this right now. [LiveLeak - photos + Turkish links, 6 hrs ago]

Yep, whoever is running the show just dropped a doozy of a dinger. Whether or not it's spooky, Turkey has now allegedly caught al-Nusra Front intending to smuggle Chemical weapons INTO Syria. McCain is also now completely toxic, given he was posing with known kidnappers. [Telegraph 2 hrs ago]


And here we all thought the Chemical weapons were in Assad's hands, and he was using... Oh, fuck it, the narrative has gone to shit. Unbelievable.


Meta comment ~ while we all know European media is just as constructed as America's, at least the construction is a Gothic Church instead of a strip mall.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:43 | 3611486 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Translated via google


Adana al-Qaeda operation: 12 detention

Security General Directorate (EGM), terrorist organizations in Turkey not do any extensive security measures in a bomb and so is the action.

Some suspicious vehicles and people arriving and departing to cities being reviews. In this context, the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda and Al Nusra Front militants connected with the organization of security units in preparation for some action, had pursued the fugitives. EGM Intelligence and Terrorism Department teams with whom they are connected by a recording of the suspects were followed step by step. Also possible action plans of the organization has been reached. After reaching this information, the addresses of 12 people were identified as being connected in Adana organization. In this context, the dawn of yesterday morning with the operation of the suspects were taken into custody and brought to Adana Security Directorate.

If staying in a large number of calls made from the suspects residence information, documents and digital data were seized. Also belonging to the suspects were taken to secure the weapons and bullets for review. In addition, the addresses of the suspects were seized two kilograms in the Sarin gas. As is known, Sarin gas, known as a kind of nerve gas. Is a colorless and odorless gas that is extremely difficult for the diagnosis of, a feature that is effective and lethal. In 1991, the United Nations (UN), the sarin gas in the category of weapons of mass stored by storing banned in 1993 by the Convention on Chemical Weapons. Anti-Terror Branch of Istanbul Police Department suspects the other hand, the Directorate continues to queries. Police accused, how to obtain Gaz?'n? Sarin led to the question that they will use and for what purpose. The suspects, they'll take their supplies to areas of conflict in Syria as a priority information they put forward. The police suspects that how they reached Gaz?'na work deepens Sarin. Also on the subject of chemical immediate seizure of the property of a gas with the Interior Ministry and the Prime Minister's Office also reported.


Way to go Congress and McCain you assholes. Still want to arm these people?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:33 | 3611457 Miss Expectations
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FREE McCain! 

(What???  Too soon?  Too late?)

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:25 | 3611089 orangegeek
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Too many fucking nazi's in the White House.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:49 | 3611661 Kirk2NCC1701
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Bad spelling aside, you seem confused about its cultural or ideological composition.  'Globalist tools', not Nazis.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:30 | 3611108 Goldbugger
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Head of Department of Justice gets indicted for Obstructing Justice. How quant. Holder, the highest ranking legal officer in the land, has subverted his office with his lies and deception, obstructing justice and even criminalizing the legitimate reporting of journalists.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:41 | 3611134 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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In the landmark Supreme Court case of Williams v. United States (504 U.S. 36 (1992)), Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, held that the American grand jury, under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, belongs to the people -- not the three branches of government. Indeed, the Citizens Grand Jury was widely used by the people before the nation had a Justice Department. There has never been an amendment to the Constitution that would preclude its use today.

"Given the compromised and corrupt state of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government, the people have now been forced to use the Citizens Grand Jury as our Founding Fathers envisioned when the sovereign fails to take into account the grievances of the people.  The Founding Fathers 'created' the Citizens Grand Jury as a safety value to allow the people to enforce the law when the POLITICIANS and JUDGES subvert it.


Only issue how do they plan to enforce it....... That is why the 2nd Amendment is so fucking important. Everyone stockpiling ammo, guns, ropes, guillotines, handcuffs etc time to put them to good use.... 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:05 | 3611562 Meat Hammer
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However, if the courts refuse and the executive branch does not carry out its duties by, for instance, arresting the criminally accused, Americans do have a right to make "citizens arrests," hold trials and legally mete out punishment in their own right. Indeed, this is what occurred in the western part of the United States, in particular, during our early years as a nation — before there was a developed federal court system and executive branch.


Dewey, how wonderful would it be to cuff Holder yourself and drag his ass to jail?  That'd be a helluva stroy to tell to the guys at happy hour.  

Posses, bitchez.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:33 | 3611455 Meat Hammer
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Criminal charges!  The Founding Fathers were brilliant.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:34 | 3611120 Everybodys All ...
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Obama had no idea this was all going on. roflmao. Change you can believe in my ass.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:35 | 3611126 SheepDog-One
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'Oh we're MAD at Eric Holder now, since we found he was screwing us media darlings over!'

Yea but you were sucking his dick up till now when you thought he was just screwing everyone else over and thought you were in 'the club'.

Sorry, too little too late.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:01 | 3611197 Winston Churchill
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Like the Kapo's at Auschwitz just before they got the 'shower' treatment.

Maybe the usefull idiots have woken in time,doubt it though.They will be back

sucking Obozo's dick in a month.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:42 | 3611481 Things that go bump
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A lot of people who think they are in the club are going to discover that they are just tools, to be discarded once their usefulness ends.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:45 | 3611155 Major Major Major
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It's hard to feel sympathy for a bunch of hypocrites. I'd feel a lot more sympathy for the media if they gave a damn whenever the rest of us had our privacy and rights violated. I mean look at the hypocrisy.

-Aaron Swartz gets prosecuted on bogus CFAA claims? Who cares, until he committed suicide, then briefly mention it, but then who cares after a few days?

-Over a third of the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay being held have been cleared of ALL charges for YEARS, and were determined to NEVER have been a threat to the US in the first place, or a terrorist. Yet they're still being held there 3+ years later because their home country doesn't want them/wont' guarantee their security, and US politicians don't want to release a bunch of innocent people accused of terrorism in the US. The mainstream media says "who cares", until several months into a massive hunger strike, then they care briefly for a few days, then they don't care again.

-Government does lots of warrant-less wiretapping on millions of Americans. Mainstream media thinks it's largely not worth reporting, even when lots of stories about innocent people being watched by the government for simply being or looking like Muslims come out. Mainstream media gets wire tapped and their emails read, and suddenly Mainstream media thinks this is a HUGE problem, just not when it happens to regular Americans, ONLY when it happens to them.

The Justice Department and prosecutors and law enforcement doing all this stuff aren't great people either. But the Media hardly has a leg to stand on here at claiming to be completely innocent when they let the government get away with violating everyone else's rights.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 19:39 | 3612017 ThisIsBob
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Sorta depends on whose Ox is getting gored, I guess.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:49 | 3611171 Goldbugger
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Holder and Obama are the most corrupt lying officals ever to be in the White House, from Fast & Furious cover-up, Benghazi-top military Generals have said that the only one that can give a "Stand down" order is the President and that order goes through the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State. No one can top it, therefore off to bed Obama goes because he "done" with it and off to Vegas the next day. Former IRS official Shulman visited the White House 159 times!! Amounts to every 9 days! No IRS official EVER visited that many times before, but no other admistration was plotting to shut the Tea Party, Religous groups, Jewish groups up! Isn't it strange Obama's half brother and Liberal groups got their tax breaks in days and within 6 mos. and the other groups up to 3 yrs. and some NEVER!! Impeachment for both would be in order for these two Marxist socialist men!!!!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:43 | 3611485 Miss Expectations
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Shulman should be held in contempt for his Easter Egg Roll remark:

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 14:56 | 3611186 asscannon101
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I'm just glad that nobody from the Ministry of Truth has been implicated in this scandal. I'd sure hate to think that we were being lied to by our government!!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:01 | 3611198 slickrock
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Nice to see the guy is under scrutiny, however, he will find a way to weasel his way out of this corner.  Isn't he still under contempt of Congress?  Nothing came from that either.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:17 | 3611237 stant
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real future meetings in the parking garage with pencil and paper , metal trash can with a bic. items to be on a future terrorist look out and ban list. welkom ist 4th reich mutter freken

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:18 | 3611239 earleflorida
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'Chinese [*a 5th Generation Leadership Leit`motif?] Intellectuals: 'The Forbidden Zones' via 'The Seven Unmentionables' ___ three internet whistle blowers recently arrested that we know about (oh, btw... this is the USSA now...)'

"China's reform hands fail to clap"   by Willy Lam  5/24/13

oh yeah, perhaps the ussa's ag will spell-out the unmentionables in his off-the-recording lynching,... with a pleasant valley note on the entry bi-door too leave your moral journalistic codes out in the hallway of compromise'[d] injustice while we scan your iris and gather your greasy fingerprints for nat'l security...  


Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:23 | 3611258 StopIt.Now
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1.This coming out of the supposed most educated, unbiased, 'law of the land', we're sorry we got caught spying and also lying about it, so let's meet in secret so we can lie some more to you, and then tell you what to report about what we told you that was 'true'.

2. Is Holder going to meet with the IRS-targeted conservatives?

3. Is Napoltanit meeting with the DHS-targeted conservatives?

When will extremely loyal, no-questions-asked liberals rebell against liars, deceivers, and those in power who focus on one goal alone; to continue the cycle of getting union and corporate cash, to get elected, to write laws that support unions and corporations, to get wealthy from those 'partners', and to put the entire cost on every one else?

Wake up America, wake up!  Your vote for Obama, or any politiicans regardless of party, are bringing death to America's freedoms.  This whole system is rigged, including the entire electioneering process, with the Press as half-back.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:15 | 3611270 unununium
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Speaking of media blackouts. 

Nothing in the MSM about HR 807, The Full Faith and Credit Act, which actually lifts the debt ceiling permanently for paying bond interest and principal.  And it has many sponsors and support.

Ah, the smell of pwned media, all day long.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:48 | 3611660 WillyGroper
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Every bill means the exact opposite of what it's named. 

Full Faith & Credit Act = FuckYou & Renege Act

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:36 | 3611294 Meat Hammer
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Funny.  Holder wants off-the-record discussions with the same people who thought their own discussions were off the record.  They should tell him no problem and have someone wear a wire.  

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 15:35 | 3611297 Umh
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It's never off the record. Ask your friendly policeman about Off The Record conversations. The only point in having an Off The Record meeting with the press is to confuse the press about the issues.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 16:14 | 3611410 newworldorder
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You finaly went and gave credibility to the rag sheet of all liberal rag sheets, "The Huffington Post" by publishing their name on ZH.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:38 | 3611640 robnume
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So. the lamestream media won't attend an "off the record meeting", with our illustrious A.G.? WTF? It really is galling that these lamestream fuckers, who've done nothing but pander to the Imperial Leader, are shocked, shocked I tell you!, that they were being spied on. To me personally, this is a non-story. The lamestream press desrve to feel "tyrannized". Look what they've done to the U.S. citizen, regurgatating gov. lies for decades on a daily basis through their various talking heads and print-press lackeys. Yeah, I feel REALLY, REALLY bad for these schmucks. FOAD, National Assoc. of Broadcasters!!

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:52 | 3611671 Kirk2NCC1701
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Holder about to be 'thrown under the bus'?  Nice deflection for O, and clean exit strategy for Holder.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 17:57 | 3611689 monad
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Off the record: origins of whichever State puppet healthcare 2/6

"healthcare fines" for some of you naughty autonomous capitalists. Whats yours is mine, and you've been holding out...

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:12 | 3611741 Divine Wind
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Had the media done their jobs early on they probably would not be in this situation.

Now NO ONE wants to talk to them except the perps who are under the gun, and only then, under tightly controlled circumstances.

Worthless scum.

Thanks for lowering the bar.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:40 | 3611816 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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While we are on Ball Holder the Associated Press thing gets better.

The Associated Press scandal just keeps getting worse, and we haven't even started yet. AP CEO Gary Pruitt informed staffers Wednesday that the Department of Justice monitored, not one, not twenty, but "thousands and thousands" of phone calls made by reporters and editors.

Associated Press president and chief executive Gary Pruitt told staff at a Wednesday town hall meeting that the phone records obtained by the government included "thousands and thousands" of calls in and out of the news organization, according to a staffer who attended.

Pruitt said Wednesday that the Obama administration acted as "judge, jury and executioner" in secretly obtaining the news organization's records, a criticism he also leveled in a recent appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation."

During the town hall, Pruitt reiterated that the AP did not report on a CIA-thwarted terrorist plot in May 2012 out of national security concerns until sources indicated the Obama administration was going to announce it publicly.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 18:49 | 3611846 rosiescenario
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Piers Morgan appearing on TV to take away our guns tells me immediately there is something very wrong with our immigration system....if Piers doesn't like guns, he should go home.


Allowing him on TV to preach at us is an is unpatriotic...if our colonials had not had fire arms, we would still be ruled by the Brits such as Piers....


I think the NRA should investigate just how Piers is allowed to be working over here.

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 19:35 | 3611998 ThisIsBob
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Yo, press corps!  We are going to have a meeting and explain to you how we are addressing the constitutional issues of free speech and press muzzling, but you can't tell anyone what we say.

Who writes this stuff?

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 20:18 | 3612144 I need Another Beer
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Holder was just testing the tard waters. I am sure mother earth and rolling stones will fill the tard vacuum for Holder.Keep in mind besides being a serial liar, Holder has no problem with murdering civillians[fast and furious] be they foreign or domestic. I continue to call my reps so I wont feel bad when govt people have to pay that rascally price of perforation.


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