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Britain To Arm Syrian Rebels; Russia Retaliates By Shipping 10 MiGs To Assad
Following Russia's first shipment of S-300 Rockets and the CNN-reported deaths of American and British citizens, it seems the situation in Syria is escalating 'behind-the-scenes' with little attention being paid in general. Whether it is the deaths or not, but according to the FT, the 'war-by-proxy' is growing in numbers as the UK is poised to ship arms to some rebel factions in Syria as soon as this summer. "The precise timing has not yet been finalized and no decision has yet been taken. But we are likely to be ... shipping arms to the rebels by August," one official noted, adding that "the rebels need ammunition, and a lot of it, just to keep fighting." The US had secretly undertaken significant lobbying efforts of EU member states to get the EU arms embargo amended and this week Britain and France forced through that deal opening the door for the supply of weapons. Adding to the angst, Russia's MiG aircraft makers said on Friday that it planned to sign a new agreement to ship at least 10 fighter jets to Syria.
Britain and France this week forced through an amendment to an EU arms embargo that opened the door for the supply of weapons to opposition forces.
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Britain’s Foreign Office insists that no final decision on whether to arm the rebels has yet been made. But a senior UK diplomat told the Financial Times that Britain could be in a position to arm the rebels this summer if, as many expect, the planned peace conference in Geneva fails to make headway.
“The precise timing has not yet been finalised and no decision has yet been taken. But we are likely to be ... shipping arms to the rebels by August,” the official said. “What I expect is that over the next two or three months western powers will move low-grade arms supplies in bulk to the rebels. The rebels need ammunition, and a lot of it, just to keep fighting.”
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Syrian rebel sources are also saying they are expecting the first new arms supplies to come from Britain as early as this summer.
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Russia’s MiG aircraft maker said on Friday that it planned to sign a new agreement to ship at least 10 fighter jets to Syria, a move that comes amid international criticism of earlier Russian weapons deals with the Assad regime,
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Russia has said it is only providing Assad with weapons intended to protect Syria from a foreign invasion, such as air defence missile systems.
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Syria now is Russia’s last remaining ally in the Middle East and hosts the only naval base Moscow has outside the former Soviet Union.
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I heard this too from an RAF instructor who had done a few secondments to the ME. However the context was that the Saudi pilots were chosen by family connection over aptitude, while the more correctly selected Jordanians were extremely able.
One nation's destruction is another nation's jobs program.
Socialism is like an ideological AIDS virus.
The Brits were finished as soon as they allowed the primitive superstitions of socialism to displace the simple truths of Christianity.
The British were finished as soon as they let a half-American into government in 1905 and Jennie Jerome's son sold the country down the river through his francophile Germanophobia over the next 40 years. Still Stalin appreciated his efforts putting so many agents into key areas of the British state
Sandmann,
As an American I lived in UK (Surrey, outside London for about 4 years).
It always summer, 1914 in England. All of the TV shows, movies reflect that. They never recovered from WW I. British and France have massive dead and casualties,
Hence, Frances response to WW II. Basically, what's the point.
I'm pretty sure Winnie's Francophilia was extended only to the odd bottle of cognac.
Certainly not to DeGalle.
Get your facts right Winston hated De Galle, he even considered assassinating him because he was a serious pain in the ass.
What doyamean "like" an ideological AIDS virus, it is an ideological AIDS virus.
Socialism is what socialists believe to be the best way of survival. They might be right for their fellow socialists, but not for the majority who are non-believers.
The non-believers have their own particular beliefs in what is the best way for survival. My belief is that everyone should be allowed to live by their beliefs under panarchism.
After all, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. indeed, and all are entititled to live & die by them, that is, provided that they do not infringe upon the life and/or death of another.
quite simple common sense really, no?
Everybody has their own beliefs, that is true, only idiots believe their beliefs are true because they believe they are! The World is a lot bigger than the space between your ears, even if you believe everything worth knowing can be found there!
People conflate private knowledge with public knowledge.
Britain will no doubt replace the Sarin that al-Nusra has had confiscated by the Turks. Cameron will probably be giving a pep-talk to the next lot of Jihadis he sends out to Syria from London
the uk is spoiling to kill more babies
The UK, like France, is destroying it's own culture.
It can keep looking the other way while loosing it's people and identity.
They may as well all start buying prayer rugs and pray 5 times a day.
the last time I checked here in the US you have to choose "for English-press 1" or "for Spanish-press 2" language options on the phone
Spanish is not an option that I've come across in the UK.
But local government welfare claim forms and countless other Income Support claim forms are available in 20+ langugaes, mostly Urdu, Arabic and stuff like that. According to the BBC several years ago, about 130 different languages are spoken in London.
Who helped create and spread extremist islam? Ah yes, America and Saudi Arabia when they wrote textbooks teaching extremist wahabist islam and sent them all over Pakistan's madrassas (religious schools) in the 80s to brainwash the local muslim population to go fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.... thing is... those schools were never closed and textbooks never destroyed after the Soviets withdrew...
Create problem (extremists) = bring solution (war/war on terror/getting rid of liberties) = winning (more power to the government)
The way 'americans' operate.
The way Chinese 'Citizenism' citizens defecate.
spot on
And they say the cold war was ended back in the 80s.....
the cold war didn't end, we did a role reversal
So, We at, what? Defcon 2 or is it 3 yet?
Britain: "We need to test and sell some of our weapons"
Russia: "Same here, got any ideas of where without pissing off the entire world?"
Britain: "How about Syria? We'll be skins (rebels) you be shirts (regime)"
Russia: "Okay, but you send first, we're sick of looking like the bad guy all the time."
Britain: "Deal"
Monsanto: " Hey do any of you guys know if Syria wants to buy some cheap wheat?"
Live Leaks Syrian videos are an eye-opener.
America too is heading for civil war...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/california-senate-approves-backgroun...
California Senate Approves Background Checks, Permits and Fees for Ammunition Purchases
May 31, 2013 - 9:38 AM
The California Senate this week approved a collection of bills, including one (SB 53) that would require background checks, permits, and fees for the purchase of ammunition.
All ammunition sales would have to be face-to-face, happening only in the presence of a store clerk; and vendors selling the bullets would have to submit sales records to the California Department of Justice. Those vendors also would need a permit to sell ammunition.
SB 53 is one of seven “gun violence” bills approved on Wednesday. Together, the seven Democrat-sponsored bills are known as the “Lifesaving Intelligent Firearms Enforcement Act,” dubbed the LIFE Act.
The other six bills comprising the LIFE Act include:
Fixed magazines: SB 374 (Steinberg): Prohibits the future sale, purchase, manufacture, importation, or transfer in California of semi-automatic rifles that can accept detachable magazines. It also expands ownership records, ensuring all handguns and long guns with detachable magazines are recorded. “This legislative action decisively closes the loopholes that have allowed the gun industry to flood our communities with rapid-reload battlefield weapons,” Steinberg said. Passed on a 23-15 vote.
High Capacity magazines: SB 396 (Hancock): Bans possession of ammunition magazines over 10 rounds. Passed on a 25-14 vote. “California has good regulations, but gun manufacturers have found ways around them,” Sen. Loni Hancock said. “This bill closes the loopholes that allowed the discharge of large amounts of ammunition without reloading and will make our state a safer place.”
Bullet button: SB 47 (Yee): Bans modification tools that allow magazines to be rapidly detached and replaced on semi-automatic rifles. Passed on a 23-15 vote.
Shotgun Definition: SB 567 (Jackson): Updates the definition of a banned shotgun with a revolving cylinder to include the new technology of a shotgun-rifle combination. Passed on a 22-15 vote.
APPS Expansion: SB 755 (Wolk): Expands the Armed Prohibited Persons System (APPS) by adding additional drug and alcohol offenses. Passed on a 25-14 vote.
Fire arm safety certificate: SB 683 (Block): Expands the current handgun safety certificate to all new gun purchases, ensuring all new gun owners have a basic training and understanding of how their new firearm works. “It makes no sense to require safety certificates only for buyers of handguns but not of those buying rifles or shotguns,” Sen. Marty Block said. Passed on a 28-11 vote.
The LIFE Act bills now move to the Democrat-controlled Assembly, which has passed different gun control bills of its own.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/political/la-me-pc-senate-approves-gun...
California Senate approves seven gun control billsThose fuckers really want war uh...
Cali already removed open carry. Time to abandon that state
"..known as the “Lifesaving Intelligent Firearms Enforcement Act,” dubbed the LIFE Act."
Who the fuck thinks this stuff up? Honestly! People get paid 6 figure salaries for this rubbish?
Sounds like Putin is giving Assad an initial squadron of Mig 29's to make sure the Syrians can handle the planes before sending them a whole bunch of hardware they can't properly use. That plus the S-300 AND the Bulava anti-ship system with 69 Yakhonts hypersonic antiship missiles they gave Assad earlier this year should keep the European banker cocksuckers at bay for a bit...
If next Wednesday a Gigantic asteroid was to wipe out the world as we know it. Bet you the market goes up on Monday.
Hey yo SD. Good point and one that is really the highest priority of all.
So ah, what makes you think it might happen on a Wednesday, or the next one for that matter?
Wrong day. If the world is underwater on Monday the Dow'll be up on Turbo Tuesday.
When does the Halliburton Catering truck arrive?
Lots of concern about this story, eh!
Here is the real issue Russia is angry about. They DO NOT want to see Sarin Gas used in Syria, so these actions are meant to give Syria a chance to defend herself from any more belligerent zionist invaders from isreal. If America was attacked like isreal attacked Syria, would that be condoned and accepted as alright? Everybody knows the babylonians are using isreal to start the third world war. They will prolly do a nuke on Damascus as prophesied, or according to the stage play written and foretold in the past. Brother Stair has been saying for years that Damascus will be nuked. It looks more and more possible now, than it did ten years ago. What is crazy to think about is why in the world of hurt would a rogue apartheid murderous zionist nation detonate a nuke in Damascus when it is in such a close proximity to their own people and country? Do they think that they will escape the fallout from such a blast in that region? Does anyone?? It only takes a match to light a forest fire that will destroy centuries of civilization and human advancement. IF this warmongering is allowed to continue, then those who want this darkness will certainly be consumed by it also. There is no escape from Karmic Justice for anyone. You reap what you sow.
https://trunewsmedia.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/turkey-finds-sarin-gas-in-...
The babylonians? To be added to the long list of imaginary scapegoats 'americans' are fond of using to escape facing the reality of 'americanism'.
You have to give it to 'AnAnonymists'. You can trust them to deliver on certain departments.
This Chinese citizenism citizen 'AnAnonymystical' commenter is a wasted talent. He should join Hollywood. He is gone, totally insulated in his own fantasy world, unable to connect with reality but to re inforce his own fantasy.
Americansim
You mean, freedom from dictatorships, to live where and as you please (within reasonable laws), to build your own life free of government controls down to your food, car, and children? Is that what you mean?
Or do you mean saving the world TWICE in WWI and WWII? Do you mean saving Germany and Japan from insane men and setting them FREE to develop their OWN free countries? Or maybe you mean setting France free from Hitler?
Perhaps you mean giving trillions of US dollars in aid to other countries for the past 75 or so years?
America has become a socialist, communist nation, so you should be happy. But it has also been the MOST free country in the world.
I don't know where you live, but it's obviously not here.
There is no escape from Karmic Justice for anyone. You reap what you sow.
That's not karma. Jesus said that. The meaning is the same, but I just don't appreciate other religions co-opting the Savior's words.
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I really don't think Jesus would mind.
This Chess game is getting interesting. I think thd BEAR has awoke.
and just when Krusty the Klown (ooh, is that rayciss?) is busy putting a clown hat on the bear and make-up, kicking the bear's face and laughing at how effective these ultra-powerful knock-off tranquilizers are he ordered from the internet ... from China
tried and true proxy wars
Re Britain To Arm Syrian Rebels...
What's Pretext Du Jour this time?
Oops - almost forgot! This is Perfidious Albion we're talkin about! No reason required - as long as a "few quid" can be made on the side.
Besides they probably just found a couple of cases of Lee-Enfield (single-bolt action, WWI-vintage) rifles in the basesment of the Minisitry of Defence.
And had no idea what to do with 'em, until some bright spark suggested giving them to the rag-tag rag-heads and invoicing Uncle Sam as if they were supplying boat-loads of Challenger tanks.
All accompanied , of course, by a trembling lower-lip - a la Tony Blair - at the plight of the innocent civilians being, gassed, cannibalised, Guantanamo'ed et al by current Govt.
Yup - when it comes to Waiving The Rules, and doin' the Soft-Shekel-Shuffle Perfidious A. is right up there with the best of em - right up there with Uncle Sam hisself ;)
Sure.
Uncle Sam likes his feeble older cousin hanging around when he goes out on adventures. They have a little fun, drink a few beers while chucking the empties at the foreigners.
Good times and laughs aplenty.
"drinks on me, but it's your turn to call or raise...or fold..."
says Uncle Sam to the Duke of E
I bet a small number of the same people own the majority of shares of both British EU defense firms as well as Russian defense firms as well as the banks finanacing both sides of both deals, and all offshore and tax free of course too.
The rebels are paying for this how? Oh wait they aren't, the UK government will stump up the cash for the weapons.
You mean print the cash.
I think that it's quite clear. Human beings are no better than trousered apes.
This is all good news. Time to halt the Western/Zionist war machine in its tracks. Syria is the line in the sand.
Israel is like that shitty little yappy dog from Looney Tunes who used to act tough because he had a huge bulldog behind him.
You forget who that Bulldog is, and He's much bigger than anyone knows.
They really don't need us because they stoled all out nuclear technology and have an unlimited budget because we pay the tab. I think we also pay them interest on all the money we send them -then we pay interest on the money we will send them next year- not bad-only26% -less then most of the saps in America pay on their credit card balances.
It's a small price to pay considering they and their friends here in America fund all their election campaigns and provide all the whores, young boys and bribes. That's an incredible expense.
I always think of the portmanteau, "Asshat" when I hear Assad's name. Not sure why...
It must be a sign of culture decay when western governments casually talk about arming the overthrow of nations, not because they were attacked by them, but merely because they do not like them.
The future does not bode well.
GDI vs. NOD
Migs, um, good. Target practice.
Nothing quite like seeing some of the world's most prolific arms dealers in a pissing contest. That is, unless, you're Syrian in which case it probably sucks.
I'm not sure what the Russian gun control laws are like, but it's tragically ironic that the governments that are so eager to arm those outside their borders are just as eager to disarm those within.
Wake me when Russia declares a no fly zone. A "no fly zone" a statement of intent to sieze and hold airspace. Then the "freedom fighters" get their laser designators- a safe move since they cant be used against NATO after hostilities end- and anything they want to go boom goes boom. Game over. You could give kim kardashian a laser designator and with a no fly zone she could take Damascus. The Migs and the s300s will be gone a week after the no fly zone is declared. The only thing that could possibly stop NATO from establishing a no fly zone is Russia committing a significant portion of their air assets to sieze and dominate Syrian airspace and they are not going to do it. Homy dont play that. Syria will fall. Iran will fall. TPTB want them homogonized and there is no one with enough juice that is willing to end the world in a nuclear war for their sakes. Russia would do it for the Ukraine, no one doubts that but they are not going to take on NATO for syria and Iran. If Russia ever takes on NATO it will be in a way that so characterizes their fighting style, they will commit all assets. TPTB know that and dont want it so Russia will get a slice of the pie. Thats business.
probably 10 shitty mig 29 no one else wants anymore anyway... syria is dumb to buy all that russian junk as it wont even be able to be used , it will either self destruct or get destroyed before the "start" button is pushed.
http://www.strategypage.com/%5Chtmw%5Chtproc%5Carticles%5C20130528.aspx
russia is laughing on the way to the bank.
http://countdowntozerotime.org/2013/05/30/russia-ready-for-war-orders-th...