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Photo Gallery And Live Webcast From A Violent Turkey

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As violent protests persist across Turkey, and spread from Istanbul to the capital Ankara, and Izmir, here is a visual summary of what is going on courtesy of Reuters.

 

As for the underlying reason for the recent surge in violence and public anger, there is a some serious confusion. From the WSJ:

The public outcry follows a series of events that have fed antigovernment sentiment among many Turks, particularly in large cities. Recent episodes include street-fighting between unions and police on May Day, a restriction on alcohol sales that secularist Turks say is social engineering, Ankara's increasingly aggressive stance on the Syria conflict and urban planning in Istanbul such as a new airport and a new bridge over the Bosphorus that environmentalist say will uproot thousands of trees.

To some, protesting is merely a way to vent:

The profile of many of the protesters appeared dramatically different from Turkey's more familiar demonstrations, which pitted leftists or nationalists against the police. "I'm taking part in a rally for the first me in my life. I had to take some precautions, my medicine, and snacks. God willing nothing bad will happen," said Nazmiye Coruh, 50, a retired PR manager, who was equipped with a surgical mask.

 

"It feels great to throw out all the stress and anger," she said.

 

"We want to show that we are afraid of not being able to continue our lifestyles under this government," said Deniz, 29, a computer engineer demonstrating around Taksim, who preferred not to provide his last name.

So a little bit of everything. One wonders what and how substantial the US influence in these events may be.

Regardless of what the spark that set off the protests, now in their fourth day, the government is taking a more than proportionate response to the street protests even as the nebulous public anger is spreading:

Turkish antigovernment demonstrations widened on Saturday, as police and protesters resumed clashes in Istanbul and other cities across the country, while Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan struck a defiant stance, labeling his detractors "a minority."

 

Tens of thousands of people began gathering in areas around Istanbul's central Taksim Square from sunrise on Saturday, while smaller copycat protests emerged in several other Turkish cities, including the capital Ankara, and Izmir. The numbers of injured in Istanbul in Friday's clashes climbed sharply overnight to total around one thousand, according to volunteer doctors and nurses at a makeshift first-aid coordination center set up close to Taksim Square.

 

In his first public comments on the protests since Wednesday, Mr. Erdogan took a largely uncompromising stance, claiming that his party's support easily eclipsed the numbers attending antigovernment demonstrations.

 

"Don't compete with us.... If you gather 200,000 people, I can gather a million.... This event has been escalated beyond the park and become ideological," Mr. Erdogan said of the protests, which intensified dramatically on Friday. "The police were there yesterday, they are there today, and will be there tomorrow…because Taksim cannot be a square where extremists run wild."

 

Despite the gathering protests, the ruling AKP, with roots in Islamists politics, still retains strong public support. Mr. Erdogan won the latest of his three election victories in 2011 after delivering strong economic growth and political stability. Mr. Erdogan brooks little dissent and has made no secret of his ambition to run for Turkey's presidency in elections next year, when his term as prime minister ends, to the dismay of the political opposition.

 

As the protest numbers swelled, other senior government officials weighed in to damp tensions, with President Abdullah Gul stressing in a statement that police should exercise more restraint and calling on protesters to act "in a mature way" to avoid escalation.

 

Early on Saturday evening, battalions of riot police withdrew from the square, although security forces continued to use tear gas and high-pressure water against protesters in adjacent areas.

One thing is certain: an already destabilized region (Turkey is bordered by Syria on the south, Iran on the east) is about to get even more unstable. Those having flashbacks to comparable ad hoc "Arab Spring" riots and subsequent revolutions whose only outcome was installing pro-US puppet regimes in assorted MENA countries, are excused.

The livestream from Istanbul is below:

 

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Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3616622 Skateboarder
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Jesus fucking Christ dude. Stuff like this is when even the likes of Turks and Kurds unite.

One country at a time, the Middle East is going into utter chaos.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:43 | 3616649 Edward Fiatski
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All going according to our Plan. :-)

Great to see People with Dignity in these photos!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:54 | 3616676 jbvtme
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i smell banker blood

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:41 | 3616868 Heavy
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It'd be nice if the police were taking some banker blood, from the look of it though they've decided to do the exact opposite.  Probably in exchange for a pitance of power and money, those dont look like misguided good Samaritans to me.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:13 | 3616981 Bring the Gold
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It's amazing how often in police repression pictures you see them going right after young women who are always doing nothing and/or incapacitated already. WTF?

That woman in the red dress with her purse sure looked like a severe threat to the legion of cops who felt the need to pepper spray/mace her right in the fucking face!

It's the same in every country these thugs just love attacking harmless women it's sickening!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:22 | 3616997 Skateboarder
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Men with no honor, no respect.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 10:16 | 3618030 monkeyboy
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I wouldn't even call them men.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:50 | 3617066 Dugald
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Re the woman in the red dress.....that photo was in the news if not here on ZH a week or more back, sorry, I forgot...never let truth get in the way of a good riot.......don't really put much faith in the media these days just too much bullshit, journalism hide thy face!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:50 | 3616661 dtwn
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More pics:

http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/

 

It'll be interesting to see how this goes through the weekend.  Will it flame out, or will it escalate and blow up?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:51 | 3616795 Scarlett
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great link.  thanks!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:21 | 3616916 DollarMenu
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Interesting to see supportive demonstrators in other countries pictured here as well.

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:54 | 3616803 Abraxas
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Talking about Jesus, how come the bible refers to him as a baby and then as a grownup, conveniently skipping the rebellious teenage years. Joseph: "Jesus, go feed the donkey"; Jesus: "Fuck you, you're not my real father"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:13 | 3616900 ThirdWorldDude
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Funny how Buddhists in SE Asia have a saint whom they call St. Issa.

Ever heard of Nikolaj Notovich?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:21 | 3616918 Abraxas
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No, I haven't. Seems like a good read. I'll give it some time later in the evening.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:47 | 3617060 Matt
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Well, considering the "Teenager" was invented in Post World War 2 America, it's not that funny. In most of the world, through mosty of history, when you turned 13 you became a man and got married.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 00:08 | 3617659 Harbanger
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That's very true, it's an American invention.  Most people have no idea where half the shit they accept as factual came from.  This is the one area where anonymous is right about Americanism.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:51 | 3617065 Buckaroo Banzai
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Maybe you haven't read the New Testament lately.

When Jesus was 12 or so, he disappeared on a family trip. On the trip back home, Mary and Joseph assumed he was playing with his cousins in the caravan, when in reality he stayed behind on his own. When his parents discovered he was missing, they turned back in an absolute panic. After days of searching they finally found him in the temple, instructing the rabbis who were flabbergasted at his wisdom. When his parents began to scold him, he sassed them back.

Even God incarnate couldn't resist acting a little like a teenager!

http://www.jesuswalk.com/lessons/2_39-52.htm

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:30 | 3616860 PontifexMaximus
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Forget it, in 48 hours over, business as usual, move along, MSM won't report about it anymore.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:29 | 3616861 Rip van Wrinkle
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Give it time and Europe will be exactly the same.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:23 | 3616999 samcontrol
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right , the Turks use dollars.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:38 | 3616941 max2205
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Where do they get all those rocks to throw?

 

Hoard your rocks now...your going to need them....they wont do much good though

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:44 | 3617056 DaddyO
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Forget the rocks...

If it comes to this kinda unrest here, it may take more than rocks.

DaddyO

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 07:33 | 3617884 Monedas
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Let's see ya blame this .... on my Joos !   LOL     Muslims don't need no reason to party !

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3616624 Dareconomics
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Istanbul is to Turkey as New York City is to Bible Belt.  The entire country is a Koran Belt with a few cosmopolitan pockets.  It's a shame that the secular democracy built by Ataturk is being torn asunder by Erdogan. 

 

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/around-the-globe-06-01-2013/

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:11 | 3616698 Freddie
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I am glad someone here gets what is going on.  Turkey was pretty secular and modern.  Egypt was doing better too before Obama/Muslim Brotherhood aka Saudis got involved.  The MB is pals with Obama, Clintons, RINO open-borders neo cons like MCCain, Rubio, Graham, Flake. 

The Turks do not want to be another Islamic state.  Erdogan is pals with the gay islamist in Wash DC.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:14 | 3616701 azzhatter
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Erdogan and Obama play hide the sausage whenever they visit each other. When will the american people join the protest?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:37 | 3616765 Arius
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"The Turks do not want to be another Islamic state."

@freddie - it seems you are biased towards Islamic states; but, how can you speak or anyone for that matter on what turks want.  "Turks" is amalgam group of people with different opinions and desires.  Erdogan was elected by the Turks wasnt he?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:00 | 3616810 Abraxas
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Your comment is not valid to bigots, Arius. Bigots don't care about common sense, bigots are in the hate business and that's that.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:00 | 3616811 Abraxas
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Echo.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:58 | 3617265 otto skorzeny
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More like too stupid to figure out a computer.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:08 | 3617406 Abraxas
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Bigot?

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 10:00 | 3618016 TPTB_r_TBTF
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.

 

"Erdogan was elected by the Turks wasnt he?"

I dunno?  What make and model of voting machines do they have in Turkey?

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 12:26 | 3618243 Overfed
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Diebold, of course.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 13:25 | 3618358 Freddie
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+1

With a few extra modifications by the NWO and Muslim Brotherhoos/Saudis.   If anyone read the article, you have people protesting who never protested against Obam's pal Erdogan. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3616625 jmcadg
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Can't let Turkey be a trade hub for physical gold now can we Barrack!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:17 | 3616713 ThirdWorldDude
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This is long overdue!

Turkish people are angry and frustrated by their own Gubbamint's deeds. Starting with their endless waiting in line to get into EU (it's their 50th anniversary this year), through Turkey's uncomplaining servitude to ZATO in the wars on Iraq & Libya (Incirlik and Izmir air bases are huge operational/logistic centers) and in recent years Turkish officials stance on Iran and Syria made people realize that no matter which party they vote for, it's always a Puppet of Zion that gets enthroned... Even hardcore anti-conspiracists got a fish slap last year when Bibi and Erdogan made up. 

Seems like it's about to play out exactly as predicted. End times, bitchez!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:22 | 3616724 lolmao500
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Even hardcore anti-conspiracists got a fish slap last year when Bibi and Erdogan made up.

Well they needed to make up for the upcoming shitstorm in Syria... Turkey attacking from the North, Israel from the South.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:59 | 3617269 otto skorzeny
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The Turks won't do shit with Ivan now in the 'hood.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 10:20 | 3618036 TPTB_r_TBTF
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<= Turks remain NATO

<= Turks join SCO

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:30 | 3617213 jerry_theking_lawler
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now you are getting the picture....turkey is facilitiating 'gold' trade with Iran. we can't stand for this. turkey must fall, just like Libya and just like Syria, which is presently under attack.

 

if the true value of Gold was to ever be known...then its game over for the USofSA.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:28 | 3616629 0b1knob
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Tear gas?   Hell when the people of Chavez ravine barricaded themselve in their homes to stop the building of Dodger stadium the LAPD just straight up murdered them.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:29 | 3616630 Gringo Viejo
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Coming Soon To A Theatre Near You!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:59 | 3617263 Go Tribe
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I was hoping some enterprising media outlet will view these increasing riots as entertainment for those not yet affected. They need multiple camera angles and various time zone locations. Maybe sell a package - WWR, Worldwide Riots Package - for only $125 a year unless you can get it online from a rogue server in Russia. Knowing that they are being filmed for consumption around the world, the rioters during prime time will get more creative and violent. I know we'll be fighting over the remote in our home.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:29 | 3616631 Inthemix96
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Shits getting real.

In real time.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:31 | 3616633 Bunga Bunga
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Livestream: http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/65035/live-direktebilder-fra-istanbul-live-video-from-istanbul

Victory, Erdogan gives up, police retreats. Taksim goes Tahrir.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:36 | 3616636 FlipFlop
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Great.

Hope to see this all over Europe, notably in socialist bastions in the North.

I really would like to see a proper revolution to wash out the corrupt scum off the scene.

Long live individual liberty, down with socialist tyranny of police state.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:08 | 3616695 Harbanger
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Individual Liberty?  This is Islam in action.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:14 | 3616708 Freddie
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Not in Turkey.  These young people are secularists who do not want more islam.  Erdogan is a Obama islamist pal.  The Swedes and Brits are another story.  Hopefully they are closer to blowing up and fixing the situation before it is too late.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:23 | 3616725 Harbanger
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The young people may be more secularist than the old folks but this is an extension of the Arab spring with a little clenched fist leftist symbolism.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:27 | 3616730 akak
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There is much more "I Slam!" than "Islam" in these protests.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:30 | 3616739 Harbanger
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Ok, time will tell.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 20:42 | 3617356 Ballin D
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Time will tell us very little. In the US, millions of idiot hippies wanted a stronger economy and less war so they elected Obama. 

Wherever this leads is likely not where the masses intended it to.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 07:45 | 3617917 ThirdWorldDude
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Never let a good crisis go to waste...

 

 

Problem - Reaction - Solution

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:28 | 3616737 Edward Fiatski
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The Spring may be continuing, but it isn't what you think it is. :-)

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:29 | 3617010 Freddie
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Arab Spring is Muslim Brotherhood aka Saudis.  They are Sunni.  Iran is Shia.  The Saudi house of Saud are in a dangeorus spot so they use the USA and UK to prop them up.  The Saudis own Wash DC and London and their govts.  Erdogan is an Obama stooge like Morsi in Egypt. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:12 | 3616834 e-recep
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> These young people are secularists who do not want more islam.

that is correct, freddie.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:32 | 3616864 Rip van Wrinkle
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The UK is a ticking time bom.....oh, hang on a minite, X Factor starts next week so I'll give it a miss for a little while.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:16 | 3616709 FlipFlop
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US used be a bastion of freedom, a country to admire.

Now all the shit seems to spread from the US.

I just read an article that people who do not share their web based excercise records with an insurance company, have to pay a penalty fee.

I really hope some sort of civil unrest makes an end to this orwellian madness of police state.

This is what I mean. There nothing wrong being an islamic or which ever religion one picks.

Iran is a civilized country with several millenia of history.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:45 | 3616945 roadhazard
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..."I just read an article...". ... lol, that was a good one.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:14 | 3616988 caconhma
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The USA used to be a free country. Now, it is a zionist colony.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 20:01 | 3617270 Go Tribe
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Nah, we're still Saudis at heart.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 13:38 | 3618387 Freddie
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Israel and the Saudis are friends and it is more the enermy of my enemy.  The House of Saud are supposedly Iraqi let's say non-muslims.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:21 | 3616998 Freddie
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No Islam sucks.   The Iranians are Persians and Islam was a product of the Arabs.  It is more Araba tribalism than anything else.  The Persians do not like the Arabs.  Islam was forced on the Persians.  Iran should throw off Islam.   They should go back to Zoroastrianism which is what they practiced before they were forced to convert by the sword.  The standard islamic form of conversion.  Iran would be much better off. Another option would be Bahai.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:39 | 3617139 Miffed Microbio...
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You are well educated in this freddie. My Persian friends had explained this to me and from them I've learned more Iranian history than I had ever been taught in school. Why Americans are never taught Middle East history is beyond me. May be we wouldn't be so passive about wars in the region if we were so enlightened.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:53 | 3617250 Things that go bump
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The teaching of history is not much favored in US public schools. The little that is taught is highly slanted, to say the least. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:30 | 3617439 Jena
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Even reasonable American history isn't taught in US public schools.  Having an accurate world view?  That would be priceless but rather a pipe dream.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 13:34 | 3618381 Freddie
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Thanks.  Islam was jammed down on the Persians by the Arabs.  Islam has more to do with Arab tribalism than a religion.  Islam was the worst thing to ever happen to Iran.   This endless Shia (Iranian) versus Sunni (mainly Arabs and the Saudis) 1300 years plus or minus feud is genocidal madness.   I doubt it will ever end. 

Americans are no longer taught sh*t because ignorant idiots who drool over TV and Hollywood's shit are good sheep.  All provided by Operation Mockingbird.  The scum in Hollywood/TV have endless movies and shows with police state SWAT teams and other militarized BS, CIA, NSA spooks and crap.  They glamorize all this police state shit, invasion of privacy and violence.  Sick.  

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 19:35 | 3619020 mvsjcl
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I may not always agree with your views, but on this I think you are right on.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:23 | 3616722 Edward Fiatski
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I think you may be clueless on the matter here; these guys look like New Yorkers, for God's sake!

This sort of action is long overdue; Turkey can become a truly secular country, once they reign the old clowns in.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 10:39 | 3618060 TPTB_r_TBTF
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"Turkey can become a truly islamic country,

once they reign the young in."

 

Fixed it for you.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:12 | 3616832 e-recep
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bullshit. this is secular educated middle class in action. islamists are still supporting the dictator.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:14 | 3616899 11b40
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You will die waiting for individual liberty to come to Turkey.  Where in the ME does that exist?  Where in the world, for that matter?  Indiviual liberty....that's so last century.  What a quaint notion.  Now, excuse me while I get back to spreading all my personal info on Facebook.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:36 | 3616637 123dobryden
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let him gather his million, that would be his last stand and he knows that, fucking pussy. At least Clinton used to get blow jobs from white fat female US citizen, unlike Obama who prefers coloured pussy male arab dictaators.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:45 | 3616654 Jugdish
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Larry Sinclair? Reggie Love? The Jerome guy from his church that got whacked. The church that provided neglected ugly black women with husbands who were on the DL (down-low).

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:46 | 3616655 azzhatter
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All dicatators are closet pussy's. Strong man acts tough while he has police backing. Obama is a not only a pussy, he likes to suck on Arab cock

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:56 | 3616807 Clashfan
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Monica was perhaps more than a white, US citizen? Maybe a Jewish dual citizen? Jewish at least, and working in the Pentagon. And that sure shifted a lot of attention from Arkansas Development Finance Authority and the goings on in Mena.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:19 | 3616995 FeralSerf
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Bingo! Monica was a distraction that worked splendidly. Bill (and Hillary too), owed a debt of gratitude to their Zionist masters for that one.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 10:47 | 3618075 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The Jews are not proud, lol

 

She's every Jewish boy's worst nightmare...

...

So she shared a few cigars with Clinton. That, we can live with. But setting back feminism AND Judaism 40 years at the same time?  JewornotJew.com

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:18 | 3616842 e-recep
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he can't find 1 million islamic radicals that will do a similar protest. the share of radical islam in turkey is at most 15%, but most of the time 9-10%. most of his voters do not hate the republic and the secular state, they would never come to such a protest meeting. he is lying.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:39 | 3616642 smacker
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RT.com say a main trigger for unrest are government plans to tear up a park in Istanbul and build a shopping centre on it. Apart from that, it looks like Egypt-II, with a lot of young city dwellers wanting to emulate the west whilst older urbanites and religous types want to go down the stricter Islamic path espoused by the despot Erdogan.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:47 | 3616656 Edward Fiatski
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Well, that is beautiful - The Good Guys are winning.

The Old will become the fertiliser for the Earth, lest they see reason.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:27 | 3616728 lolmao500
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Finally the young generation all over the world is sick of religious crap and bankster cocksucking that the previous generations have been doing for the last 50 years... Baby boomers are probably the worst generation in history, the sooner they DIAF, the better.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:53 | 3616801 Oldwood
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Whether you realize it or not Boomers were young once too, and were some of the first to demonstrate against war and government excesses enmass, and like all generations before ended up at the head of the line to the teat. For all of the righteous young out there bemoaning the sins of their fathers, only time will tell if you are better or worse in the end. Given the growing corruption we see in our government, I would assume out of self preservation and advancement, todays young might well make us old dogs look like Mother Teresa, much as Obama is changing the relative rankings of Nixon.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:05 | 3616825 Harbanger
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It's part of the cycle.  The path is being laid for Gen X to make heroes out of their younger siblings.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:28 | 3616857 dtwn
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I think the difference this time though is/was the internet and social media.  This younger generation, including myself, have grown up with technological evolution that has led to today's access to any information, any time, any where. We are the information generation.  I think the importance of this can't be understated.  Does anyone remember using a card catalog to find a book in the library?  How about reading an encyclopedia?

Now, ideas can be shared instantly and broadly, to the point of going viral.  If one hears something from their government, or MSM, they can quickly look for other opinions.  Or even go straight to the source and form their own interpretation.  This happened to me regarding Syria.  I didn't care much about the Arab spring and subsequent events in Syria.  I was just like 'meh, Middle East is blowing up again, what else is new'.  However I had absorbed some of the political rhetoric surrounding Syria during the US presidential election.  And then I came accross photos of FSA rebels gunning down unarmed people, this led me to question the MSM narrative and seek information for myself.  It didn't take many videos on youtube or liveleak to see just how dishonest MSM and politicians were.  It was quite clear that our government was supporting war criminals, cold blooded executioners, terrorists.

The stuff in Turkey is very relevant as well.  I hadn't been paying much attention to it, other than knowing Erdogan is BHOs puppet in fighting Syria.  But with these recent protests one can learn much through social media in essentially real time.  Don't have to wait for the newspaper to be delivered in the morning.  You can go back to youtube and liveleak vids of the May Day protests, then the protests regarding the border town car bombings.  In  both there was police oppression.  Of course the issues are extremely complex, but one can see for themselves how these movements can build.  This wasn't just over trees in a park.  These are long-standing issues spanning many differing Turkish demographics.  

I think there is a major underlying current of frustration and anger with politicians worldwide.  For example it seems like there is near universal support via social media channels for what's going on in Turkey.  Very little support for Erdogan. It'll be intersting to see how Obummer spins this. I don't know if this is a generational phenomenon or what. I just want our politicians to get the fuck out of our lives and stop fucking lying to us

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:24 | 3616919 11b40
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I agree with you, dtwn, that everything is different now.  There are few secrets if you want to dig and learn.  I am just concerned that not enough want to do the grunt work needed to really be informed.  However, the internet allows for building like-minded coalitions in ways unthinkable in my days of youthful protest.  We can only hope that the drumbeat for exposing banksters, corposratism, and crooked politicos keeps getting louder and louder - to the point it goes mainstream and can't be shouted down any longer.

Please keep education yourself about the world.  It's gets smaller and more precarious by the day.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:44 | 3617050 Freddie
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Great post.  You have Obummer plus the Clintons, RINOs McCain, Rubio, Graham, Flake then Dems Menendez and a others (no Dems cross Obama-Jarret), mostly Gang of 8 - who voted to back these murdering rebels.

The Syrians may not like Assad but these rebels are outside scum backed by the Saudis aka Muslim Brotherhood aka Al Qeada.  Benghazi has Erdogan and Turkey's fingerprints all over it.   McCain the POS was able to slip into Syria through Turkey. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:05 | 3617089 smacker
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Nice piece which I agree with.

Especially this "I just want our politicians to get the fuck out of our lives and stop fucking lying to us". There are many people in all generations who will agree with this. I hope it becomes the foundation of cross-generational co-operation to bring the political filth and their cronies to heel :-)

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 00:25 | 3617683 Harbanger
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I also agree with much of what he said but wasn't it the 20 somethings with the internet and social media that voted for Obama. And fell for the same bullshit twice? I don't know if the internet can make up for all the disinformation they where taught in school during the last 20 years. As matter of fact, social media was one of the main tools used during Barrys campaign.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 05:23 | 3617840 smacker
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Quite so. Same thing happened in the UK when Tony Blair was in his prime.

He presented himself to the electorate as the moderniser, ready to change things for the better. ho-ho. The younger people voted for him in droves. Now Britain is suffering the consequences of 13 years of authoritarian socialist govt interference into every nook & cranny of our lives, the police out of control and a quasi-permanent state of war on terror. Gee, thanks Tony.

Before the younger generation of today blame the mess onto the previous generation they need to realise that every generation is born into a society that exists at the time, which transcends a single person's life on Earth. They have no choice but to fit into it to progress their lives, or become a dropout with all the consequences that brings.

If the problem today is far too much corrupt/corporatist government, owned/funded by TBTF banksters and other big corporations and authoritarian police states, people of all generations have a common interest in bringing it to heel.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 12:18 | 3618228 11b40
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Remind me again of the alternatives?

Oh, yes.....Mcain/Pallin, Romney/Ryan

Frying pan, meet fire.

Mon, 06/03/2013 - 06:41 | 3619754 dtwn
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Good point.  Social networking was definitely instrumental in his electon, and yes they did get fooled twice.

I think the internet can offset a major portion of school taught disninformation.  Especially with its increased use and adoption. I think the internet is still evolving.  It went from chain emails, to cat videos, and now immediate information.  ZH is a perfect example of information I never would have found myself.

We are also living in a time where software technology is becoming synergistic with hardware technology.  With Twitter/Youtube/Liveleak combined with high speed internet and ubiquitous smart phones/digital cameras along with cheap memory I can see the aftermath of a battle in Syria or a protest in Turkey the same day it happend if not in real time. No need for embedded journalists now.  The Qatari funded mercenaries are filming themselves killing and getting killed.  In HD.  With audio.  If a picture speaks 1000 words, video speaks 1 million.

I just can't emphasize this enough.  Seriously, go to Liveleak, Vimeo, or Youtube and search for the events in Turkey.  Watch several of those videos.  Then go to lamestream media websites and see what if any info there is.  It hasn't been on the front page, or even highlighted in the world sections of most sites.  A lot of the informtion is old, incorrect, or subjected to spin rather than reporting.  Then read the comments section of what few stories there are.  Many commentors are upset with the lack of coverage, especially by the US sites.  You will see the disconnect between what is actually happening on the ground vs what the gov and MSM are saying.  They really are about to lose control of their narrative.

High speed internet, social media software, and cheap hardware combined really is a game changer.  The democratization of information.  Thats why criminal politicians are so affraid of it, quote “There is now a menace which is called Twitter,” Erdogan said. “The best examples of lies can be found there. To me, social media is the worst menace to society.”  Suppressing the internet is now the new book burning.

And I think it is important to not forget the generational differences that do exist with social media utilization. If 80% 18-49 year olds use social media but only 42% of those above 50 do (link below) there is likely to be striking differences in how information is assimilated.  Faceplant was a flop and a transitory fad, but I think it is important to not combine all social media into one category. A medium such as Twitter enables the rapid dissemination of information, including news and world changing events in real time.  By their participants.  No longer do we have to wait for the "BREAKING" ticker on CNN, 'news at 6'.

Interesting times are indeed ahead.  The end of fiat (and hopefully Keynesianism, an overly leveraged highly endebted global economy, natural resources, religion, history, and now ubiquitous instantaneous information is going to be an interesting clusterfuck.  Stay safe people.

http://www.pewinternet.org/Commentary/2012/March/Pew-Internet-Social-Networking-full-detail.aspx

 

And another interesting look at internet and religion:

Among Muslims, Internet Use Goes Hand-in-Hand With More Open Views Toward Western Culture

http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/Among-Muslims-Internet-Use-Goes-Hand-In-Hand-with-More-Open-Views-Toward-Western-Culture.aspx

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:53 | 3617068 ebear
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"Given the growing corruption we see in our government, I would assume out of self preservation and advancement, todays young might well make us old dogs look like Mother Teresa..."

 

We'll have the answer to that question when they bring back the draft. Until then, it's all hand waving.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:59 | 3617267 Things that go bump
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I'm old. I'll lie myself down in front of a tank before they get their hands on one of my blood.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 11:05 | 3618108 TPTB_r_TBTF
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If you are both old and fat,

 

then you might even be able to stop the tank!

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 01:54 | 3617739 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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I have often wondered why boomers who were out their protesting against the war which resulted in a million plus deaths at the hands of Pol Pot never found the time to protest the millions of deaths by the regime their actions created.

As much as you boomers like to talk about your protests you only portested when youryour lives at were at risk, the draft, and once your lives were no longer was at risk=no more protests- you all spent the next 3 decades voting for politicians who have made debt slaves- of the next generation- from your excess.

And now you want the generation of today to live a lower standard of life so you can spend 30+ years without working.

Boomers suck

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 14:31 | 3618492 ebear
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"Boomers suck"

As will your generation, once your kids are old enough to start asking questions.  What goes around comes around, yo.

As for me, I blame the Romans.  I mean seriously, what have they ever done for us?

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 13:48 | 3618403 A_MacLaren
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You can listen to an interpretation from RT.com or you can hear it from a college student resident of Turkey.  The development plan for the park may have been part of the catalyst, but according to the creator of this video, it is the oppressive regime of Erdogan, and the Turkish people no longer being willing to live in fear.

 

Why are the Turkish people fighting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aEapNRakzDI

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:43 | 3616651 tenpanhandle
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It's a mad, mad, mad world (and getting madder). 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:44 | 3616652 Schmuck Raker
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Some company should sell gas masks that look like Guy Fawkes. They'd make a killing.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:46 | 3616658 akak
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When did policemen worldwide turn into Imperial Stormtroopers?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:52 | 3616662 Edward Fiatski
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Around 1775-1776, when dangerous ideas started to become coherently articulated & shouted from the rooftops of every building by Men of Reason, Sovereign Men, Free Men.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:14 | 3616707 azzhatter
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Face it most cops are closet pussys also

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:14 | 3617104 Sabibaby
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They're also stupid and can't think.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:22 | 3616996 FeralSerf
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When they were hired by His Imperial Majesty.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:37 | 3617437 Angus McHugepenis
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Look at their paychecks (or whatever electronic version it is these days).

Edit: Follow the money. Who writes their checks? The funds come from the taxpayers but who controls the funds? Oh, that's right... the fucking corrupt politicians.

I wish I could comiserate with all the tax slaves, but I can't. I stopped feeding the beast 13 years ago.

No soup for you, you corrupt political farging bastids!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:46 | 3616659 l1b3rty
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They should just be mining bitcoins...

http://goldsilverbitcoin.com

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:52 | 3616664 Seize Mars
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I can't understand why all these peasants are misbehaving. Let's see. We take their labor in an income tax. We then take property tax (no job, no shelter! Ha ha.). Then we inflate their savings. 100% slavery to the State.

I just don't see why they want to be so rude. Don't they appreciate the "protection" we give them?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:16 | 3616712 FlipFlop
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You are 100% correct.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:31 | 3616743 Totentänzerlied
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Because the implicit, universal welfare check known as the neoliberal state is finally bouncing after a wild 100 year ride on the run from justice/reality. Welfare-state dependents don't like less, they only like MOAR, like a dog at his dinner bowl, they WILL bite the hand that feeds... But only, in their greed and myopic ignorance, to demand EVEN MOAR. It is all they know. Free shit from cradle to grave, more of it every year, cheap credit, lots of jobs, education, blah blah blah blah debt-based fiat currency BAIT for aspirational peasants with no critical thinking ability. Yes, You CAN have it all - until the benefactors decide otherwise... Then you can either admit you've been had, taken for a ride, fattened up and slaughtered, and DO SOMETHING, OR you can double down on delusion and, like a dog asking to be beaten, bark at your masters when the treats stop coming. Slaves have no rights, who ever heard of a slave protesting?

And what are they protesting for? Emancipation? Fuck no. You don't "protest" for emancipation, you Fight for it, inch by inch, and then you take it and guard it with your life - 1776 style. No, Euro-peons and their wannabe brethren around the world are not struggling for freedom. They are struggling to put the redistribution gravy-train back on track, full-steam ahead. Nothing else. It. Is. All. They. Know.

"Give us our cut of the money", they scream. The State, calmly but firmly, replies, "A gift confers no rights."

Time to wake the fuck up, everyone.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:40 | 3616774 FlipFlop
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You are German?

Germany is one of the last free countries in Europe.

I worked at Deutsche in Frankfurt for quite long time.

Germans understand the price of freedom and privacy. Along with the Swiss.

All the rest of Europe is gone since their people do not understand the meaning of liberty.

If nazis did something good, they tought the Germans the hard way the price of liberty.

Germans are smart enough to learn.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:42 | 3616778 Alcoholic Nativ...
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The peasants are demanding more trickle down.  Total leech fucks!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:57 | 3616886 DeliciousSteak
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Most of these protesters don't want to put the train back on track. The "Blockupy" in Frankfrurt don't want a piece of the cake. They said they want the whole cake! It's time to tear down whatever is left of the capitalist/corporate piece of poo system and distribute the whole pie, not just crumbles. That's what they're after.

Communism returns folks, and it doesn't seem to be the mild euro-communism born during the Soviet era. This is Communism as Marx intended, the capitalist system is necessary before there can be a genuine change - and now the market is crumbling.

 

YEEHHAAAWWW it's commie time.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:55 | 3616672 ebworthen
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"Nebulous public anger..."

Seems to be a lot of that lately.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:37 | 3616866 e-recep
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the youth unemployment rate in turkey could very well be 70% at the moment, worse than in spain or in greece.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:14 | 3616702 Reptil
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Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:45 | 3616871 e-recep
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yep, agent orange.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:08 | 3616850 e-recep
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this particular picture : http://25.media.tumblr.com/bc5fa5bae55a8dee520505c6eac9ddff/tumblr_mnq2zzHM7B1ste7qoo1_1280.jpg

the graffitis on that news van say in turkish : liar sellout news channel and sellout bastards

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:00 | 3616679 FlipFlop
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When do people realize that public sector does no good?

It only serves itself.

There is no peaceful way of getting rid of those wasteful zeros.

It seems that only fullscale revolution lets us get rid of all those useless state officals.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:29 | 3616732 lolmao500
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Statists never go quietly into the night, you have to drown the fuckers for them to go away... Europe, China and America needs a lot of that... and it's coming.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:13 | 3617097 ebear
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"It seems that only fullscale revolution lets us get rid of all those useless state officals."

 

And then? A new state will emerge and those job vacancies will quickly be filled, is what. You're not fighting a machine brother, you're fighting human nature, and that includes yours as well as theirs. So either recognize that fact, or dust off your resume for a place in the new regime. Your choice.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:09 | 3616693 ebworthen
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"Even old New York was once New Amsterdam"

Istanbul - The Four Lads:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vankaSlfSr0

"Take me back to Constantinople, no you can't go back to Constantinople, now it's Istantanbul..."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:32 | 3616746 IridiumRebel
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I got arrested to that song when I was 18. "MINIMUM WAGE!!!!!! HEE-YAW!!!!!"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 21:06 | 3617398 ebear
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this version has more swing...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBWj2acrbs

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 22:06 | 3617494 TheFourthStooge-ing
Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:10 | 3616697 caimen garou
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the guy with the sling-shot is the man! whatever it takes!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:23 | 3616721 shovelhead
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Latex rubber tubing and ball bearings can ruin someones day shonuf.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:29 | 3616735 lolmao500
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He should shoot stink bombs at the cops.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:32 | 3616931 11b40
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Same thing I was thinking.  If every one of those protesters had a simple slingshot and a bag of marbles, the police would either be in full retreat, or they would be shooting live ammo.  A marble from a slinshot can be lethal.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:14 | 3616703 IridiumRebel
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I'd really like to thank the Plebe Turks for making everyone in the EU and elsewhere look like fuckin' pussies. 

GITSUM! GITSUM! GITSUM!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:35 | 3616754 Totentänzerlied
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Gitsum welfare checks. Gitsum social programs. Gitsum handouts. You don't think anyone actually bothers to protest for actual freedom - freedom is haaaard, and you have to actually work for it, all the time, forever. That's too much woooork.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:48 | 3616790 IridiumRebel
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You want another mayonaise sandwich? I got Miracle Whip!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:23 | 3616921 Bohm Squad
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Miracle "Hwhip"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3616706 shovelhead
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This looks like a job for the State Dept/CIA to organize a 'no gold to Iran' riot or two.

Get things on the right path.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:20 | 3616714 lolmao500
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Greece too might be in for a rough ride.

http://www.dailypaul.com/287393/greece-mulls-debt-camps-for-taxpayers

Greece Mulls “Debt Camps” for Taxpayers

"The government seeks a military camp to turn it into a prison for those unable to pay their debts: to tax office or social security funds"

YOU WILL PAY, PEON! OR ELSE!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:41 | 3616771 XitSam
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And to pay for the "humane conditions" in the "debt camps" they will raise taxes. Making more Greeks that are unable to pay their taxes. Increasing the size of the debt camps until it is the size of .... Greece. Funny how that works.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:57 | 3616808 lolmao500
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They should just save some time and turn Greece into Europe's debtor prison.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:14 | 3616985 Jugdish
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Each debtor shall be alloted a days ration of Sisa.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:21 | 3616716 doggis
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SO LET ME RECAP THE PLAYBOOK

 

USA TO TURKEY AND UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - NO GOLD SETTLEMENT TRADE FOR IRAN.

MEANWHILE - RUSSIA, CHINA AND BRICS ARE SETTING UP GOLD SETTLEMENT FOR BALANCE OF TRADE IN ORDER TO RELEGATE THE USD - IN - YOU GUESSED IT, TURKEY.

POST IRAN WARNING - PAPER GOLD PRICES PROCEED TO BE HAMMERED.

TURKEY ERUPTS IN SEEMINGLY SPONTANEOUS RIOTS? hmmmm....

[....but, but......spain and greece with near 30% unemployment and sporting a collapsed economy - nary a peep?]

[...but,but....some trees in turkey erupts the anger of the people to riot level.......] hmmmmm

*****************************************************

EDITORIAL - TO THE ANGLO - AMERICAN ELITE, THE GREATEST WAR MONGERING COLLECTION OF EUGENICISTS IN HUMAN HISTORY - HOW F*CKING STUPID DO YOU THINK WE - THE SHEEPLE - ARE!!!!!?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:25 | 3616729 Reptil
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oh there's fighting going on in spain, Italy, Germany.

the state media in the Netherlands, UK are not covering the turkisch revolt. they're afraid that we'd possibly wake up from our slumber.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:35 | 3616753 IridiumRebel
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I'd say people are awakening. The match is being lit.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:14 | 3616835 Rossalgondamer
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Exactly - two days ago the front cover of a MSM spanish hewspaper pictured cops vs firemen.

 

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:37 | 3617226 e-recep
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nah, the unemployment rate in turkey must be higher than those in spain and greece. don't fall for the official figure.

the revolts in bahrain and turkey were genuine. the western main stream media is playing down the riots even if they report some of it. it's not like when they grabbed the tahrir square story with both fists.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:25 | 3616726 Atomizer
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Turkey: We better create an interference according to a manufactured public civil unrest storyline. We simply cannot be caught smuggling weapons of mass destruction under a classified proxy war doctrine. The Turkey government is merely a freight forwarder, we're only the go between within a logistical sense. We don’t get quantitative easing over here. Any new customers helps are GDP and repayment obligations towards the Bank of International Settlements.

/LOL

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:28 | 3616738 alentia
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While Turkey was/is good ally of Quatar and US, one would wonder if this another Quatari/US lead operation or Putin's financing of Russian Style "Arab Spring" and payback for Libya, Tunis, Egypt and others.

Russians have old forgotten experience in such operations with Cuba, Afganistan, South Korea, Vietnam and others.

I am not sure I am giving too much credit to Putin, but for Russia winning/destabilizing Turkey would be very big leap forward protecting Syria and blow punch to the CIA.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:36 | 3616760 williambanzai7
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Gobble gobble...

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