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Photo Gallery And Live Webcast From A Violent Turkey
As violent protests persist across Turkey, and spread from Istanbul to the capital Ankara, and Izmir, here is a visual summary of what is going on courtesy of Reuters.
As for the underlying reason for the recent surge in violence and public anger, there is a some serious confusion. From the WSJ:
The public outcry follows a series of events that have fed antigovernment sentiment among many Turks, particularly in large cities. Recent episodes include street-fighting between unions and police on May Day, a restriction on alcohol sales that secularist Turks say is social engineering, Ankara's increasingly aggressive stance on the Syria conflict and urban planning in Istanbul such as a new airport and a new bridge over the Bosphorus that environmentalist say will uproot thousands of trees.
To some, protesting is merely a way to vent:
The profile of many of the protesters appeared dramatically different from Turkey's more familiar demonstrations, which pitted leftists or nationalists against the police. "I'm taking part in a rally for the first me in my life. I had to take some precautions, my medicine, and snacks. God willing nothing bad will happen," said Nazmiye Coruh, 50, a retired PR manager, who was equipped with a surgical mask.
"It feels great to throw out all the stress and anger," she said.
"We want to show that we are afraid of not being able to continue our lifestyles under this government," said Deniz, 29, a computer engineer demonstrating around Taksim, who preferred not to provide his last name.
So a little bit of everything. One wonders what and how substantial the US influence in these events may be.
Regardless of what the spark that set off the protests, now in their fourth day, the government is taking a more than proportionate response to the street protests even as the nebulous public anger is spreading:
Turkish antigovernment demonstrations widened on Saturday, as police and protesters resumed clashes in Istanbul and other cities across the country, while Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan struck a defiant stance, labeling his detractors "a minority."
Tens of thousands of people began gathering in areas around Istanbul's central Taksim Square from sunrise on Saturday, while smaller copycat protests emerged in several other Turkish cities, including the capital Ankara, and Izmir. The numbers of injured in Istanbul in Friday's clashes climbed sharply overnight to total around one thousand, according to volunteer doctors and nurses at a makeshift first-aid coordination center set up close to Taksim Square.
In his first public comments on the protests since Wednesday, Mr. Erdogan took a largely uncompromising stance, claiming that his party's support easily eclipsed the numbers attending antigovernment demonstrations.
"Don't compete with us.... If you gather 200,000 people, I can gather a million.... This event has been escalated beyond the park and become ideological," Mr. Erdogan said of the protests, which intensified dramatically on Friday. "The police were there yesterday, they are there today, and will be there tomorrow…because Taksim cannot be a square where extremists run wild."
Despite the gathering protests, the ruling AKP, with roots in Islamists politics, still retains strong public support. Mr. Erdogan won the latest of his three election victories in 2011 after delivering strong economic growth and political stability. Mr. Erdogan brooks little dissent and has made no secret of his ambition to run for Turkey's presidency in elections next year, when his term as prime minister ends, to the dismay of the political opposition.
As the protest numbers swelled, other senior government officials weighed in to damp tensions, with President Abdullah Gul stressing in a statement that police should exercise more restraint and calling on protesters to act "in a mature way" to avoid escalation.
Early on Saturday evening, battalions of riot police withdrew from the square, although security forces continued to use tear gas and high-pressure water against protesters in adjacent areas.
One thing is certain: an already destabilized region (Turkey is bordered by Syria on the south, Iran on the east) is about to get even more unstable. Those having flashbacks to comparable ad hoc "Arab Spring" riots and subsequent revolutions whose only outcome was installing pro-US puppet regimes in assorted MENA countries, are excused.
The livestream from Istanbul is below:
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"a restriction on alcohol sales that secularist Turks say is social engineering"
Wild Turkey, bitchez!
i much more enjoy watching the Fireman fight the Cops
"Arab Spring spreads to Turkey. One thing angering the average Turk is the NATO Government's slide towards a more Islamic style of domestic government and the Turkish support for the NATO allied Al-Qaeda and Sunni Jihad movement in Syria. In short, most Turks do not want an Islamic state at home and do not favor Turkish aid to radical foreign Islamic fighters attacking secular Syria.
Since the USA and Israel along with NATO are now firmly allied with radical Islam and the Muslim brotherhood across the Middle East and North Africa, the government of Turkey is at odds with most of it's people. Being a NATO puppet, the west has pressured Turkey to adopt radical Islam as a domestic form of rule and has pushed even harder for Turkey to fund, train and support all forms of Radical Terror groups seeking to invade and conquer Syria to install a pro NATO Islamic state.
Here is clear evidence of NATO involvenment with the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda while at the same time opposing secular government across the Middle East.
In this case, Russian support for secular governments and for Syria in particular stands as an example of support for people's freedom from Islamic extremist and terrorist rule. Since NATO backs Al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Chechen terrorist movement and the Sunni Jihadists of Iraq and Syria, Russia stands alone as a fighter for freedom and secular rule. The west stands for terror as it funds the worst terror groups on earth. Chechen child murderers among them. NATO funded the Georgian attempt to slaughter the people of SOuth Ossetia, only Russian tank columns arriving in time saved ten of thousands from murder by NATO.
I have said before, that at the instigation of Israel, the USA and NATO have taken on Al-Qaeda as a valued arm of Western imperial wars. Syria is the classic example, and stands as proof that NATO is a massive terrorist organization. Russia needs to send S-300 to Syria as fast as possible, also Syria needs batteries of Iskander surface to surface missiles, more anti shipping missiles, and an array of the most modern anti tank missiles and shoulder fired anti aircraft missiles to equip it's troops to fight off an invasion by Israel and NATO designed to resuce the Al-Qaeda and Sunni Jihadists who are losing the war to the Syrian Arab Army.
John, I am a terrorist supporter, Kerry, is demanding that Russia disarm Syria and turn it's people over to Al-Qaeda terrorists and to the Israeli Army which will take all of Golan for greater Israel. Kerry is a terrorist thug, Israel demands that he threaten to kill Syrians and Russians in service of greater Israel and the spread of Al-Qaeda power. Putin need to tell Kerry to go fuck himself!
I cant believe your comments
yeah, cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
A couple snipers (from either side) would drastically change the dynamics of this riot.
you're talking phase 2
Yup, then it will escalate quickly. I might even go so far as to say this could be the final piece of the puzzle that really gets things going worldwide. With the ME, Europe, Japan, its going to be a very intersting summer.
Wonder how this will play out tomorrow, protesters already apparently hijacked a gov vehicle:
Protesters only 200 metres away from PM's office in Istanbul Al Jazeera's Gokhan Yivciger reports that protesters in Besiktas, Istanbul, have made their way towards the prime minister's office and are only about 200 metres away. They have hijacked a truck from the municipality and are using it as a barricade against the police, who are using tear gas to keep protesters at a distance.I really need to invest in some gas masks....
Just for the record, I was not advocating such a thing.
Another observation: Capital cities. I think the U.S. is the only country with a capitol that is just the capitol. People live there, and nearby, to work and provide services to the government. It is a company town. Other capitols have a city that exists without the government. I find this interesting. Brasilia, another created city, is an exception. Are there others?
Cops are not cops - they're praetorian guards who would shoot their own mothers for a paycheck....
Unconsented imposition of unwanted force upon a human is inhumane. Anyone who disagrees with the previous statement is a traitor to the species.
look at his face and look how old his target is :
http://25.media.tumblr.com/c6847db1118bca3489886bb8e79107dd/tumblr_mnnrzpGFii1ste7qoo1_400.jpg
That's why they are called pigs.
odd that the Turkish storm troopers look like our storm troopers.
The orders come from on high.
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No matter what uniform you wrap it in, a pig is still a pig.
Pigs always seem to be blobbing up in rivers.
But that is not a mattering thing.
Alas, alas, three pandemics alas, just have to bear with it.
Confusionus say: Add Jinkela, one river pig is worth two.
As Garrison says in JFK, "What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?".
This was about the eradication of the last 'green' space in Istanbul.
Now it's much more than that.
I wish more Americans gave a shit about their losses.
This country would be/could be, vastly different if people could awake from the 'dream'?
FEMA camps were around 45 years ago, too. But we called them "strategic hamlets."
Didn't work then. Won't work now.
When the storm trooper paychecks start bouncing, or the peons get wise to where they live, it will change things like night into day.
Whatever. There's this thing called a printing press. And now they have all kinds of exotic weapons for crowd control. I'm afraid it will work out quite differently.
You Americans waited too long for riots to make change. They've now got so much military equipement on the streets it would be like fighting an army just to exercise even your most basic rights like freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.
Are you up to the fight to actually make a positive change?
Most of the world doubts it.
Birth pangs of liberty.
Spring Turkey?
lots of web censorship in Turkey, at least 6000 sites blocked.Interesting country Turkey, In Geopolitical terms it may be a very important place, might switch sides from the West to the East.
Impeach Obama. Kick the illegal alien out of the country.
www.obamasrealfather.com
So far the countries that are having a "real" revolt are the ones that have the backing of at least part of the military and or law enforcement. This is where the "occupy" type events fizzle out. Plus there are some lazy SOB's out there just watching. I guess people need to get hungrier and more broke.
Euromed Barcelona 1995:
Mashrig and Maghreb,mediterarian ring=Arab Spring? of the east!
another "occupy" gathering to cover the real agenda.
CALIPHATE
Walked through the Chicago Turkish Cultural Festival yesterday...very different scene. Cool people.
Note to protesters worldwide. Some basic rules to follow to help you avoid even the most minor injuries:
1. Don't show up at a riot in flip-flop sandals and dressed like you're going to the beach. You need hockey or football gear at the minimum.
2. You will need more than a basic first aid kit that you buy for $5 off eBay. Visine doesn't do much for tear gas or pepper spray in the eyes. Surplus gas masks are a must.
3. If you wish to be shot by a water cannon, try something similar at home first so you know beforehand how much pain you will suffer.
4. If you want to AVOID being shot with real or rubber bullets, get the fuck out of the way of the gun you fucking idiot! Idealism won't stop the cops from shooting you, and it hurts like hell when they do.
5. Standing around in massive crowds only makes it harder for you to GTFO when the herd starts running away from the cops. You will suffer more (and severe) injuries trying to run away if you are in the middle of 5,000 sheeple that decide to bolt.
6. A small group of Police can easily contain a massive amount of flip-flop wearing people who are all in one place. 1,000 cops will shit themselves when confronted with 400 groups of 25 people coming at them at random from all sides. Think about the LA riots. Hell, think about the TWO bank robbers in full body armor who completely overwhelmed the entire LA police force. Or more recently, think about ONE ex-cop in LA who completely overwhelmed that police force as they tried to hunt him down for a week or more.
7. Look for and photograph the sadistic cops who like hurting people. It's one thing for a cop to use force to protect himself or someones property but photos showing a gang of 5 or more cops beating a shirtless protester is overkill. Try to identify them and where they live. They could be your neighbor. Find out about their families. Sadistic, brutal cops need to be shown no mercy. Need I say more?
8. Your protests are USELESS until you find out where your politicians live. Marching in the streets and wrecking the economy for real business people is idiotic. Go directly to the houses of the politicians and wreck their fucking houses! Go to the Police Chief's house and wreck it... just stop wrecking your neighbor's fucking business, you fucking idiots!
9. "Never let a crisis go to waste"... Rahm (the ballerina) Manuel... mayor of Chicago and former bum boy of Barecrack Obagma.
10. FUCK YOU BERNANKE!
11. BitCheZ
up vote for the Bitchez comment...
DaddyO
40 groups. 400 * 25 is 10,000.
Your typical rabble just isn't that organised. Which is why they always lose.
Yep, I don't have much faith in the "typical rabble" these days.
And your maff is correct. I average about 1 cop for every 10 sheeple in the civilized world.
It likely isn't even that high. NYC has approx 34,500 officers - in a city of 9M. Clearly on the extreme of the averages, but there are many rural areas in MT or AZ that have maybe 3 or 4 officers for a sizable area of hundreds of thousands of acres with maybe 10,000 total inhabitants.
Now, add in military and private police, maybe 1 to 50. Maybe.
Damn Angus...you the man! I have printed your comments out and taped it next to the gun cabinet. You have raised the bar for anyone else attempting on line riot advice! In fact I will elect you riot captain when it all goes down. I mean WTF use is it being a microbiologist in these times when some asshole cop may beat the shit out of you for defying the State. Today is not the time for civility but learning guerilla tactics when this comes to USA.
Miffed;-)
Hey Miffed... I just had to... I just had to fucking RANT about all the idiot protesters worldwide who keep getting themselves shot and "water cannoned" due to herd mentality & stupidity. They think they are changing shit by watching their twitter/facebook postings as guns are being fired right next to them!
I'll email you later. I had to vent after watching these videos and looking at these photos from what could be my backyard (eventually).
Yak at ya later...
Angus McHugepenis said:
Two things. First, publish the photos far and wide, both physically (print 'em out and distribute) and on the internet. Second, do the same with information you have on them, but only if you are absolutely sure of its accuracy. It's bad karma to bring harm to the innocent.
Good point. Additionally, once this happens enough times, politicians will become a shunned class, as nobody will want one living in their neighborhood.
Blind rage destroys indiscriminately, but focused rage can destroy effectively.
The vandalized TV news van with appropriately angry words painted on it is a good example of focus.
@TheFourthStooging-ing,
I appreciate such a detailed reply from you. I can assure you I don't and won't act on false info. I am well aware of how damaging false info can be.
Politicians are already a shunned class. The media is the only thing keeping them "alive" today. If it wasn't for the MSM, politicians would just die off naturally... regarded as nothing more than the worst human nature can provide. Common sense will come back when the professional politician is discarded. Ooops... almost forgot his friend... the LOBBYIST!!
I saw and noted that news van. Intersting that we were thinking similar thoughts.
Cheers...
On UK news - the reason for this uprising is the uprooting of a couple of trees.
I kid you not.
@jmcadg - Yes, I heard that story a few days ago and I think somebody posted it on ZH. Something's not right. How the fuck do people mass-riot over a few trees being removed? If that's the case I should be shot for cutting down dead fall trees on my land. I remember one comment from a ZH member saying, "the unemployed were sleeping under those trees" (I'm going from memory, too lazy to look up the ZH post).
Same in Holland. Dutch are advised not to go to the gatherings because of "radicals."
Riot Dog is in Turkey.
For those not in the know (Davos - PKK deal), Turkey has a constitutional law that revolves around 48hrs of civil unrest triggering certain things. Oh, and things are burning now. Military has a long tradition of coup to restore Democracy, yet have been silent so far.
Things to ponder:
#1 Where did those terrorists with Sarin gas go? This is certainly more bang-for-your-buck than the Britam hack / eating hearts triggered.
#2 What's the military doing? (Hint: after several purges, they might be playing their "Oh, really? You don't want us? Fine, we'll sit here until shit burns down a bit". cf Metropolitan Police in recent UK riots who let it go on a little due to being pissed off at budget cuts).
#3 Police are running out of teargas - now using out-of-date Brazilian stocks, used up all the USA good stuff. Check for quick shipments.
#4 Turkish TV is showing a brilliant selection of Dancing on Ice. Death of the Medium is here.
#5 Just fell in love - middle class MILFs join protest.
#6 Civilians still don't get how to do riots, and still believe that the Police will play nice, despite being pummeled by offensive tear gas usage (that's a tactic pioneered and refined daily by Israeli forces btw ~ why they came over to teach the NYD stuff, if you need to have it explained in black n white)
#7 First people to learn how to spike NATO vans / water cannon vans get a prize. (Hint: get yourself a metal spike used for fencing or even just a pointy bit of 2' iron about 1 1/2" in diameter + a sledge hammer, drive it into the wheel hub 1' or so at a 45o angle, job done. You'll want to spike only one side front/back to increase torque from the opposite wheels. They have limited vision, so it's very easy to do)
#8 Police armor doesn't cover the groin: learn how to use slingshots. At the very least, learn that their helmets preclude vision to a front 90o angle and use it against them (ancient Rome says "hi").
Meta-comment: Facebook and Twitter are being data-mined for organizational data here. Call it "test case social media riot prevention".
p.s. Look up Gold - Silver - Bronze command structures. Things will go to shit if you target the silver command centre, which is always close enough (and traceable).
ZZzzz so bored of asymmetrical controlled opposition.
#8 Police armor doesn't cover the groin: learn how to use slingshots. At the very least, learn that their helmets preclude vision to a front 90o angle and use it against them (ancient Rome says "hi").
So... shoot'em in the balls with bearings?
Always love your stuff Aurora!
I would *never* suggest violence against our fearless black-armored paragons of LAW and ORDER. Are you some kind of hippy anarchist?!?
Never.
I approve your *LAW* and *ORDER* slingshot message, and yes, I am (or can pretend to be) a hippy anarchist.
You'll have to excuse me. I need to scratch my balls with some bearings.
A 21st & 20th century background check,... and how ME-MSM(*singular?) al Jazeera, a wholly owned Qatar (the Al Thani Family postured and advocated by Sharia Law) media conglomerate-- hosted under the auspices of Sheikh Yususf al-Qaradawi fomenting Sunni-Muslim ultra-jihadist (terrorist for Al Thani Family 'Gas & Oil' Massive Wealth?) $petro$'s minimum-wage mercenaries!
Here's what's happening in Syria,..the epicenter of Turkey's trials and tribulations via it's unique'HubistanNode (QATAR>Saudi Arabia>Jordan>Syria>Turkey' to Europe? [bypassing Iran and Russia ref: ht//pepe escobar]) precarious situation of 'Two-Faces have Eye'?', where one can't win by losing?
Geography and History: "Modern Syria (France: Lebanon, Damascus, Latakia, and Aleppo)" -- "The Sykes-Picot Agreement (GB/France/USSR)" -- "Letter from Hitler to Mousolini, August 25,1939 (ref: Turkey)" -- "Treaty of Alliance Between Germany and Turkey 2 August 1914" http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/modsyria.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/sykes_pico.html http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/20th.asp http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century_ns057.asp http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/turkgerm.asp
Ref (current ME/ Int'l): * www.dailystar.com.lb/ www.atimes.com/
Ps. sorry for the long comment but i truly feel that having a past has nothing to do with ones youth?!?
jmo Thankyou Tyler
I think this is Russian organized payback for the Turkey's involvement in directly supporting Chechniya and now the attempt to overthrow Syria. I think Russia had enough of this rogue regime (from Russia's point of view) and are throwing sticks into Turkey's wheels.
'tails you win, heads you win... in the grey arena of a petrified prism?'
maybe? 'Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)' -- 'First Withdrawing Kurdish Rebels Reach Iraq (civil war? & oil rich north)' http://www.voanews.com/content/first-withdrawing-kurdish-rebels-reach-iraq/1660494.html
Ps. In a physical world,... the laws of man and nature must follow the rules of coexistence-- or perish?! perplexing as it sounds is but a paramorphism analogy-- Mankind v. Ones Unknown Psyche? Question is... who will fill the vacuum in Turkey's... umm,`stuff'd cavity notwithstanding the 'Laws of Thermal Dynamics'?
If Syria attacked Turkey from the rear, do you think Greece(grease) would help?
Supposedly, Russia sending its only Carrier into Club Med.
Mossad provacateurs were seen celebrating in a parking lot !
Blame it on Lawrence of Arabia .... the quintessencial, sine qua non, original, one and only Zionist ! Erdoban keeps an autographed portrait of Peter Otoole on his desk ! Erdoban is a bag of shit .... to use the Russian expression !
Erdogan is trying to take the country hard line muslim-a la the muslim brotherhood who seem to end up in charge after the various "arab springs" across the whole of north Africa. Working on establishing a new caliphate (last one was the Ottoman empire) based in-Turkey.
Slingshots?
If you can't get a real rifle then a 150lb xbow and some broadheads (probably needlepoint bodkins too) will go through your basic bulletproof armour, and they might as well not be wearing helmets at all.
e.g.
http://www.archers-review.com/magazine-articles/June-2010-huge-and-the-b...
But anyone can make a slinshot in about 10 minutes from a variety of common materials for practically no money.
It was a one way bet things will blow out of control in Turkey. Goldman Sachs and Moody's are again behind the curve.
Nice to know a lot of weapons are hand over in Turkey by the CIA and GCC to the Free Syrian Army formerly known as Al Qaeda. There is already a lot of tension between Turkey locals and the so called FSA.
Expect Alevites and Alewites will come into the equations. (20% of the populations) or what about the PKK.
Economically Turkey is on the brink of collapsing, to much private debt, it may descend in civil war.