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In "Secret" Meeting, Eric Holder Tells Media He Will Stop Spying On It

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The US Attorney General's New Normal Watergate fiasco gets more surreal by the day.

Eric Holder, currently being investigated for lying under oath, has been in hot water ever since the break of the AP scandal. But it has been his "handling" of the spillover that has raised eyebrows. The latest update is sure to raise them even more. Because it turns out that during Thursday's "off the record" meeting which the majority of the press boycotted for the simple reason that the reporting press probably can't go off the record when the topic is the US government's precedence over the first amendment or it will lose what little credibility it has left, Holder's message was simple: "trust me, I am the government, and I will stop spying on you." The farce just goes downhill from there.

RT reports:

United States Attorney General Eric Holder said during an off-the-record meeting Thursday that the Department of Justice will change the way it conducts investigations of reporters amid scandals centered on Associated Press and Fox News journalists.

 

"Justice Department officials agreed that the journalists could discuss publicly in general some of the ideas that were discussed during the course of what [was] otherwise an off the record meeting,” Dylan Byers wrote for Politico. Journalists with other publications have also opened up about the event.

 

Despite the Justice Department’s original plans to keep the meeting’s details from going public, accounts of Thursday’s address that have surfaced in the day since reveal that Mr. Holder hoped to convince journalists that changes are on the horizon for how his office conducts probes into journalists.

 

According to Byers, Holder and Deputy Attorney General James Cole “said they are reaching out to editors and counsels for news organizations about how to strike what they called ‘the balance’ between protecting the flow of information and journalists’ ability to do our jobs and what they described as national security damage.”

 

“[Holder and aides] completely endorsed the president’s statement that reporters should not be at legal risk for doing their job. They acknowledged the need for changes in their own guidelines and the need to have a more rigorous internal review,” Martin Baron added in the Washington Post.

 

But even if the DoJ acknowledged those changes, eyewitnesses say it’s not certain when or how adjustments will be implemented. While most attendees say that Holder and Cole seemed understanding of their grievances, few walked away with feeling fulfilled about promises that have yet to be cemented.

 

“I didn’t come away with a precise understanding of how those guidelines might change, and I didn’t have impression they were settled in their own mind,” Byers added for a separate Politico article.

 

Who knows what’s going to happen if they in fact are going to practice what they seem to preach and try to change some laws that we feel are very relevant. But I think it’s sort of an opening gambit, an opening discussion,” New York Daily News Washington bureau chief Jim Warren told CNN.

And so on.

Summarizing: a secret meeting with the same press that was being spied on for who knows how long, promising that the administration will be more transparent, and to take the AG's word for it, the same AG who is being investigated for perjury before Congress.

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Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:05 | 3616392 ParkAveFlasher
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Fuck you, Holder.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:07 | 3616394 ghengis86
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That's Himmler to you.

The farce is strong with this one...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:20 | 3616409 Pinto Currency
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He won't spy on reporters anymore.

But he may run automatic weapons to gang members in their neighbourhood.

It would be interesting to see the issue of reporters that served in Iraq and Afghanistan that were being sniped by US forces dealt with by Honest Eric Holder.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:41 | 3616445 imaginalis
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This is a cover story. The real target of the spying is the reporter speaking to an unknown high level whistleblower in the FED/fantasy

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:46 | 3616450 GetZeeGold
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Stockholme syndome in the media.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:11 | 3616491 Fukushima Sam
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Impeach Obama and get rid of Holder!  Two birds, one stone.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:38 | 3616516 aint no fortuna...
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and here I thought nixon and ag john mitchell were the greasiest, sleaziest scum sucking CRIMINAL pos's in our history... little did I know

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:42 | 3616531 Meat Hammer
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Cheating husband: Trust me honey, I've learned my lesson.  Oh, look...titties!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:25 | 3616562 Spirit Of Truth
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American society is now based upon fraud, and Eric Holder is the perfect representative to oversee the "legal system".

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:58 | 3616598 franzpick
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The Urban Dictionary has the most accurate definition of the current sophistry being used by barry, eric, valerie, lois, et al, to oppress their perceived opponents, who unfortunately happen to embody the individualism that built the previously great America:

Sophist:

"A person who, while professing to teach skill in reasoning, concerned himself with ingenuity and specious effectiveness rather than soundness of argument".

And worse:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sophistry

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:18 | 3617190 Joe Davola
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I don't trust google one bit, but I trust the government a lot less:

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/judge-orders-google-turn-over-data-fbi...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:26 | 3616566 Banksters
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Ta tas fun bags, tit tays, juggs, ah love.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:30 | 3616568 Miss Expectations
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Cheating Husband (in bed with another women, wife walks in):  Honey, it's not what you think.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:50 | 3616792 Vegamma
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Good analogy ME. Notice he's not apologizing for abusing his powers. He's telling the press that he won't bother them again if they get back on the Messiah's bandwagon. When is his private meeting with gun rights advocates and tea party members to make a similar promise? The Chicago way.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:36 | 3616936 IrritableBowels
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Yer lyin' eyes!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:46 | 3616536 FMR Bankster
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My personal favorite of the recent Justice department scandals (so many to choose from) is the one getting little attention. That they put convicted terrorists into the witness protection program, changed their names, and then didn't put the new names on the no fly list. Of course a number of these folks have disappeared. Actually, it's kind of a do over for Justice because of it's similarity to fast and furious.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:20 | 3616719 prains
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Impeach Obama 

 

dude impeach your entire fucking government, both parties and wall street, then you have a chance until then WTF! is gonna change. It's a fucking hydra, one head off another grows

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:46 | 3616453 TeamDepends
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PMSNBC Declares Eric Holder "The Moses Of Our Times" @ theulstermanreport.com.  Houston to Obamanauts:  The Eagle has landed.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:11 | 3616492 GetZeeGold
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PMSNBC Declares Eric Holder "The Moses Of Our Times"

 

No wonder MSNBC ratings are down....who want's to watch cult TV?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:05 | 3616548 aint no fortuna...
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instead of parting the Red Sea he parted our cheeks

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:16 | 3616413 insanelysane
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Seriously these are the same people that rationalize that corporate executives of multinational corporations are too big to jail.  How can they not rationalize that the government executives of the most powerful nation on the planet are too big to jail?

We have crossed the rubicon in the US.  In the past, there was fraud and corruption in government and business but there was always a chance for justice.  That is gone.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:06 | 3616481 SuperRay
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Crossing the Rubicon - Mike Ruppert

 

He told us we were fucked in 2002.  Just been deeper and deeper since then

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:09 | 3616893 NoDebt
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The whole tone was wrong.  He condescends to promise to stop doing it (maybe, at some point in time) but really he's saying "I can do this to you at any time.  It's perfectly legal and ethical for me to do so and you damned well better recoginze that.  I simply choose not to at this moment.  I'm doing you a favor here, so you better fucking thank me."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:17 | 3616416 Acet
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A parasitic, power hungry sociopath tells his latest victims that he's not going hurt them anymore ...

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:25 | 3616426 nevadan
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Come into  my parlor, said the spider to the fly.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:32 | 3616571 Kirk2NCC1701
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Welcome back, Nevada Dave. We missed you.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:31 | 3616436 Jim in MN
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"They Just Wouldn't Listen!!!"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:34 | 3616439 IridiumRebel
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"I promise I'll be better baby, I won't do it again...PROMISE. You believe me, babe, right?"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:28 | 3616512 Jena
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"Awww.. Why'd you have to do that?  Now you know what I'm gonna have to do?  But it's not my fault, you know that, right?"

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:39 | 3616443 tradewithdave
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Correction... Himpton

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 19:13 | 3617182 beaker
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You can't make this stuff up!

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:00 | 3616474 azzhatter
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Fuck You Holder and your cocksucking Stasi. Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw. I hope you die a terrible painful death you motherfucker. Fuck You

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 16:15 | 3616903 PontifexMaximus
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Holder is not the problem, blame people who are covering him, they all have names!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 18:51 | 3617148 willwork4food
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Though true, he is the one that has agreed to take the position willingly and do what he does- with the American people paying him his salery & benefits.

He does not just need to leave, he needs to be charged for treason and hung.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 22:07 | 3617497 Hedge Fund of One
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Oh, he's a big part of the problem alright! Blame both him and those covering him.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:26 | 3616565 Jdog
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How come he is not in jail yet? The biggest criminal, most dangerous threat to all Americans. Enough already! He broke the law, there is no excuse for this criminal.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:47 | 3616786 Bay of Pigs
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He makes John Mitchell and Edwin Meese look good

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:01 | 3616971 Ruffcut
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It must be something to be the biggest asshole in the country.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:05 | 3616395 Navymugsy
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So why are all the brave, bold men and women of congress afraid of this goon? I wonder how many of these folks he has already got pictures of in compromising positions?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:27 | 3616428 a growing concern
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He secretly videotaped their NAMBLA sessions.  You'll know this to be the case if he's still in office a year from now.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:06 | 3616482 pine_marten
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Because they are all crooks.  It's the land of mutual assured destruction if you go off reservation.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:44 | 3616532 forexskin
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right-O. see james traficant as exhibit A

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:44 | 3616533 Meat Hammer
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Ding Ding Ding!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:08 | 3616489 Winston Churchill
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Young boys,girls and/or animal sarbaritic  deviancy for sure among the sociopaths we

call honorable.Sure bagHolder has the Hoover on them.Dirt everywhere.

Same as chief justice Roberts , and his 'paperwork' problems on his childrens

adoptions.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:19 | 3616500 Son of Loki
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I'm sure Smolder has some incrim photos such as Barney Franks line dancing with Mozillo, Wiener and others...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:54 | 3616541 Oldwood
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People are easy to corrupt. For some its thirty pieces of silver and for others it's pride and the fear of its destruction. Can you imagine the kind of stuff they have in files on Obama? There is a reason so much of his personal history has been locked down. This is not something Obama could have done without help. Those that hold the keys to his history vault own him and likely everyone else in office.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:08 | 3616397 Downtoolong
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"trust me, I am the government, and I will stop spying on you."

But, I won't admit any wrong doing. I mean, why should I be treated less favorably than my Wall Street bosses? Haven't you people heard of equality in the workplace?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:06 | 3616398 DaddyO
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Strange scenes inside the goldmine indeed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NSz-9qqgKE

DaddyO

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:09 | 3616399 Splootch
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It does'nt mater...he's a billionaire he's an enemy.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:16 | 3616410 Pinto Currency
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Everyone is going to be a billionaire.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:27 | 3616430 a growing concern
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We're all going to be trillionaires, bitchez!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:18 | 3616617 franzpick
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I hope GoBombEm and his corrupt administrators who seem assured of their escape from soon upcoming domestic anarchy to their remote island retreats, with their millions, are careful what they wish for; fending off 100-200 million angry american pirates carrying 300 million guns and making unannounced visits will require some careful planning.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:16 | 3616414 mberry8870
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Dude,

 

Maybe, maybe not but I go after billionaires too - that is if and only if they committed a crime. #144 (in the U.S.) on the Forbes list.

 

Just  watch.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:13 | 3616403 mberry8870
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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Sorry is not quite doing it for me motherfucker. You are not going off into the sunset to commit more crime. I am holding you accountable to your Department's very own seven elements. No tears.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:29 | 3616733 disabledvet
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well this is the Attorney General of the United States doing this not the head of the CIA, the FBI...not the Joint Chiefs of Staff nor the President himself. lest we forget...JFK made sure to have is "brother" as his AG. having said that...as AG "you are laying down the law(lessness) of the land." if "anarchy" is the rule" don't be surprised if its anarchy that you get. stay long gold folks...i think the great reset may be coming sooner rather than later.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:47 | 3616785 Lost Word
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The Joint Chiefs of Staff were the leaders of the JFK assassination, with help from CIA and FBI and Secret Service and Mafia and LBJ and Texans.

Most of the same guilty group probably also happy about brother RFK assassination, at minimum to prevent a new investigation of JFK assassination and coverup.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:32 | 3616747 Ignatius
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Michael Hayden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hayden_%28general%29) is actually on video from years back arguing that "probable cause" is not in the 4th Amendment.  Read that again.

We are so fucked.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:13 | 3616404 Buckaroo Banzai
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“I didn’t come away with a precise understanding of how those guidelines might change, and I didn’t have impression they were settled in their own mind,”

LOL, I bet you didn't.

"Lying liar, who works for liars, and spends all his time telling lies, hiding lies, or lying about lies, lied to us about not lying to us any more. And, his pants were on fire."

That would have been a much more interesting and accurate quote on what he obviously experienced.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:30 | 3616433 a growing concern
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"It appeared his nose was growing as he spoke."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:49 | 3616458 gmrpeabody
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Pinocchericio...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:14 | 3616408 Jim in MN
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Lies

Spies

And pokes in the eyes

That's what little fascists are made of

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:17 | 3616411 a growing concern
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You done fucked up, Eric.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out.  

 

You know it's bad when the syncophants in the media are calling for somebody's head.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:04 | 3616823 JPM Hater001
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You mean on the way in... Wearing orange.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:18 | 3616417 JustObserving
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Holder has any credibility left?  Resign and let someone ethical and competent take over.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:25 | 3616427 IridiumRebel
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Good luck with that. I could grab a turd out of toilet with more morals than most of these treasonist fucks. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:53 | 3616468 ArkansasAngie
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Amen

These yahoo's will replace him with some other little hitler wannabe.

So ... Obamacakes ... did ya discuss this crap with holder?  How about you resign and save us the expense of going after you

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:55 | 3616804 Lost Word
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How about the US Supreme Court declare that Pretender Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen, and thus Not eligible to be elected President, and that therefore Romney is now President by election default.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:37 | 3616442 Buckaroo Banzai
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"let someone ethical and competent take over"

Are you delusional?? This administration is a filthy cesspool of corruption and lies. Nobody with any ethics or actual job skills would last a week in that pit of vipers.

No, one thing you have to say about Holder, he is definitely the right man for that job. He's not going anywhere.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:21 | 3616720 Kirk2NCC1701
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The wheels on the bus go round and round, go... over Smolder. End of trail, end of story.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:16 | 3616498 mberry8870
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When are you fucking people going to start listening? Resigning is the first step. Confinement is the last. I am not kidding. They are all going to live up to my expectations. Or not.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:18 | 3616556 Motorhead
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Almost surprised the "in-bed" media hasn't tried to defend him; or, they've got their marching orders to get this chump out of there.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:18 | 3616619 Rip van Wrinkle
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Ethical? Competent? In the Obama team?

 

You are f*ckin' joking, aren't you?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:21 | 3616420 Seasmoke
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Hang him for Treason.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:15 | 3616554 Motorhead
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And for just being a "fast and furious" fucking ass hole.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:20 | 3616421 djcando
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Let's not overthink this - just throw the bum out!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:47 | 3616873 SilverSavant
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Are you kidding me?   If they don't hang them high, the next will just be worse>

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:25 | 3616424 IridiumRebel
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What the fuck has happened to us? I mean seriously. I cannot believe what this country has devolved into. We are becoming a meld of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia via sprinklings of Maoist China.

 

It's like they said,

 

"What are the three shittiest and most horrific regimes ever? LET'S DO THAT. This whole Constitution thing is so freedom giving.....fuck that. We want a corporate fueled communist/fascist hybrid with the worst parts of socialism."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:31 | 3616434 Jim in MN
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Well look on the bright side, at least the slimy millionaire weasel lawyers SAY they are willing to 'negotiate' our Constitutional freedoms...as long as they hold all the cards.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:34 | 3616748 Things that go bump
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“Be careful how you choose your enemy, for you will come to resemble him. The moment you adapt your enemy's methods your enemy has won. The rest is suffering and historical opera. ” Michael Ventura 
Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:50 | 3616791 F. Bastiat
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Moral collapse.

Western civilization is an artificial creation based upon the lessons learned of mankind's nature and history.

With the mass TV media on the scene, the lessons of mankind's nature and history are obscured by the fantasies and fictions on the telly.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:26 | 3616429 PiltdownMan
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Why would they believe this criminal?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:26 | 3616563 Motorhead
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They've been believing criminals in the District of Criminals for a long, long time, so why stop now?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:32 | 3616432 newworldorder
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Lets not shed a tear for the "Press" for most have been co-opted through several political administrations. The pretense of Press indedendense is hypocritical. A handfull of media giants own the national news services, most of their money comes from corporate advertising revenue streams, they are full of happy talk 24/7 "journalists," and rely on coveted leakers for their exclusive stories. Press independence stops where profits are endangered for those corporate enteties that own the "independent press."

Holder is doing the job that he was hired to do by his President. How many times do you need to hear from him. His primary job is to cover the back of this administration. He will do this till the day he resigns.

The idea that the Press is negotiating secretly with the Justice Department for "Justice" is sickening.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:00 | 3616542 Dapper Dan
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"Journalists" - in the same way that vending machines are "chefs".

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:44 | 3616583 Buckaroo Banzai
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Or a whore is a "girlfriend".

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:09 | 3616829 Wakanda
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Wait a sec.  I know whores who are both girls and friendly.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:34 | 3616435 Wakanda
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Bwaaa ha ha ha ha!  LOL

This shit is starting to get entertaining.

Popcorn and beverages FiSHeS.  Protect your keyboards, especially when WB7 photochops the latest adventures of InActIOn jAcksOn.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:37 | 3616441 nmewn
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Just trust me, its not like I lied on a legal document & called a member of the press a co-conspirator to a crime in order to get a search warrant approved by a judge!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:40 | 3616444 MedicalQuack
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One really does have to wonder about the "Holder" thought processes.  I do.  I go back to September of last year when he appeared to be saving a "damsel in distress" with HHS with the joint letter they sent out to all hospital and doctor associations accusing them of cheating on their billing.  Sure there is fraud everywhere and new auditing software is helping but this was way off the cliff as they brought nothing to the table.  In the meantime in the news at the same time you have HCA talking boldly about how their billing methodologies helped them make bigger profits.

Again with the letter sent out, nothing brought to the table and it was an embarrassment as they couldn't get their heads around the over all process of doctors and hospitals with using electronic medical records could now document for their real time expenditures.  It's a well known fact that doctors for many years "under coded" for cash flow.  In other words if they billed at a higher level then they had to supply documentation for this and claims that were paid at a lower level soared through within 30 days to get paid, while billing for their longer time and legitimate time at a higher level would throw the claims in to a review ara for documentation and the time getting paid could go as high as 120 days with Medicare.

That being said and with electronic records and billing, it's a process now to where we don't have the hold up as documentation is now electronic, so when HHS and DOJ put this out, everyone scrated their heads and it looked bad, even Harvard Medical and others commented on it as well. 

So again, I really do question where Holder gets some of his thinking here.  He's one of the White House digital illits I say and it hurts all of us and this letter with HHS and the language used said it all. So how does he think on other matters is what I question and does he have the capability to run DOJ with taking into account current day technologies?  It's also a black eye for HHS, who has the same problem and it's their area of responsibility:) 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2012/09/hhs-and-doj-send-letters-to-hospi...

Now after this all occurred I watched the PBS documentary Too Big to Jail and within the first 5 minutes of DOJ Manny talking about his investigation of the sub primes and banks, it was so obvious he too had no digital illit skills either..so very sad and he whined a lot too.  5 minutes of the whining and I tweeted it as well, so obvious and why we are so stuck today.  DOJ needs a bigger brain for sure and then add on the Congressional inquisition, then we really have the blind leading the blind here:) 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-untouchables-too-big-to-jail....

Futhermore we have our consumer protection agency at the same level too, just another attorney who's blind to technology and wants to build a data base now to learn.  I wish we had folks at the top who were not to digitally illit...it really shows big time as banks and companies just march all around them and we all lose with having attorneys who are tech dumb. 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/04/richard-cordray-fail-with-underst...

Again that letter in September just about said it all with knowledge and guess which two are staying in the cabinet so far?  You guessed it:)  I don't know what's happening with the White House cabient but I swear they have all been talking to John McCain of late (grin).  That GOP digital illit virus seems to be contagious. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:36 | 3616466 F. Bastiat
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There aren't any thought processes.

Affirmative action doth not intelligence make.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:47 | 3616447 Jake88
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"Trust me. I am the government and I will stop spying on you." This from the same people who told us that we must go to war with Iraq because they have WMDs and that the attack on Benghazi was a mob reaction to an internet video. Not to mention they are the same people who have been actively removing our constiitutional rights for decades now with unconstiitional legislation that they now refer to as statutory justification. If you believe a single word they utter you are an idiot.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:08 | 3616828 Lost Word
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Trust me. This is the same Government that says the 9-11 attacks were orchestrated and conducted by Islamic extremists Cessna pilot flunkies who hijacked jetliners with boxcutters and collapsed the World Trade Center Towers in a manner that defies the Laws of Physics.

Unlike US laws, the Laws of Physics cannot be broken by the Government or anyone else.

Unless pre-installed explosive demolition devices in the WTC towers were detonated according to US Government plan.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:42 | 3616448 tradewithdave
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If a tree falls during a presser and no lamestream are there to hear it, does it make any noise that can be spied on? Bloomberg terminals withstanding.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:43 | 3616451 Atomizer
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Good bye Holder. When you break the law, you go to jail. If your brother Obama doesn’t follow the law, I can predict that everyone in the United States will follow your illegal behavior and think it’s OK because Holder got away with it.

 

Hellfire has backlash

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:21 | 3616502 nasa
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This is the USSA and the laws only apply to the 99.9% of us.  Holder, Jaime, etc, can and will continue to pillage at will.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:45 | 3616454 Crash Overide
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The fucking zombies will get all of them eventually...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:57 | 3616471 ArkansasAngie
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fingers crossed

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:47 | 3616455 q99x2
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Holder needs to be arrested for murder, tried and if found guilty, executed.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:46 | 3616456 WTFUD
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Aah the sweet smell of 4th Reich TRANSPARENCY!

For me it's a coin flip as to whom i despise more, 'hold 'em up obama bagman' Holder or an arse licking sMedia having betrayed the citizens and now on the recieving end of a stick up are bleating like the sheep that they are!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:56 | 3616470 VelvetHog
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I'd give you more than one green, Sky Arrow, but I can't.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:51 | 3616460 Dapper Dan
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CBS had Holder in their teeth and were ready to shake but then let him go,  why?

 

October 3, 2011 5:59 PM

WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.

 

On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."

 

Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:01 | 3616476 VelvetHog
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CBS spat him out because he tasted like corrupted dog shit.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 10:52 | 3616465 F. Bastiat
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Thomas Jefferson, in "Notes on the State of Virginia", wrote extensively about the delusional nature of many of the mulattoes he had encountered.

Seriously.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:02 | 3616469 VelvetHog
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Holder needs to be jailed for this and several other violations.  Literally.

 

 

This is all anyone needs to know. 

 

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 15:30 | 3616859 DosZap
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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

Dig this shite.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/05/feds-suggest-antimuslim-speech-can-be-punished-165163.html

 

What about the other faiths?.Oh no, only the Muslims we are coming after your asses.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:02 | 3616477 Skin666
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The Republic of Banana...

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:06 | 3616486 alien-IQ
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Ummm...did I miss the part where he says he will also stop spying ON THE REST OF US? Or were the members of the press simply not concerned with that particular invasion of privacy?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:37 | 3616758 disabledvet
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as if they'll do either. "paranoia self destroyer."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:11 | 3616493 Pseudonymous
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"In "candid" article, mainstream media tells readers it will stop pretending to be telling the truth."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:15 | 3616495 jbradt
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AG guilty, convicted, sentenced....POTUS Pardon..  Now What?......REVEOLUTION!!!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:35 | 3616501 ThisIsBob
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I think the little neo-facist wannabe is just following orders.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:20 | 3616504 0b1knob
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He won't spy any more.

         He won't spy any less either.

         He will spy about the same.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:33 | 3616517 djsmps
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The Japanese equivalent to "changes are on the horizon" is "We will study this."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:54 | 3616519 Widowmaker
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"National Security"

noun.

Utter bullshit used to undermine the US Constitution and subsequent authority of each state, and the rights and liberty of individuals protected and ensured therein.

See also police-state treason.

Examples: The United States is under attack by "national security."  The enemy is "national security."  "National security" is an incorporated, economic security racket and anything but secure.

E. Fuckup Holder be damned.  Same as his boss.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:32 | 3616745 Kirk2NCC1701
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When will you learn that to these people, "National Security" means the security of Statism for the 1%.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:38 | 3616524 Bunga Bunga
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Meanwhile another US-friendly dictatorship goes bust: http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/65035/live-direktebilder-fra-istanbul-live-video-from-istanbul

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:43 | 3616530 the grateful un...
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dear eric holder, your biggest national security challenge is to uphold the constitution

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:45 | 3616534 duhhhhhh
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The meeting was probably held in Hoovers old office. What the fuck do you expect.

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 11:52 | 3616540 TheMeatTrapper
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Whew. I'm glad we got that settled. No more illegal spying. Now we can put all this behind us and focus on the booming economy!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:01 | 3616544 Inthemix96
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Lying filthy piece of shit is he indeed, but it is just the same over here peeps, listen up, heres another duplicitous cunt dressed up in a suit pretending to do the work of parliament while shafting the people who voted for him.

A filthy vermin infested twat called Patrick Mercer Conservative MP, an aparantly 'Right Honourable' one on that.  This dick resigned the Whip yesterday as not to tarnish the conservative name and is now an independent who will continue on for another two years till the general election, just to collect his £130,000 pay and guaranteed pension for the rest of his natural life for five years work.  Plus expenses which will I am sure equal the same £130,000 pay.

Whats he done then?  Hes been caught by the BBC and the Telegraph selling cash for questions and influence in said parliament for a cash lump sum and two grand a month kick backs on camera while working in public office.

To say I am shocked would be a lie, these fuckers just dont care, they do as they please on the publics coin while being as bent as fuck and not giving two fucks about it.  If this was you or I we be talking jail time never mind resigning the Whip and carrying on robbing the fucking public for another two years.

They really all are the same, doesnt matter what country or where you're from useless fucking parasites that couldnt earn a fucking nut in the real world while suckling on the publics teat.  Fucking disgraceful bastards, each and every one.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:21 | 3616559 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Inthemix96 hit the nail on the head when saying:

They really all are the same, doesnt matter what country or where you're from useless fucking parasites that couldnt earn a fucking nut in the real world while suckling on the publics teat.  Fucking disgraceful bastards, each and every one.

Bingo! These fucks are the cause of most of the world's problems. It is a fool's errand to look to them to fix anything.

Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM8KpIzs-O4

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:29 | 3616567 Inthemix96
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Stooge mate,

Its an old saying but it fits the best and never changes, 'Great Minds Think Alike', these fuckers is coming down soon.

This fucking prick probably couldnt even change a light bulb, but he would certainly claim the fucking publics money for it.

I hate the lot of the useless pencil necked bastards with a passion.

Best to you and yours, and they now know we know what they are and what they do, thank fuck for the interwebs eh?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:16 | 3616618 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

This fucking prick probably couldnt even change a light bulb, but he would certainly claim the fucking publics money for it.

That type of smarmy tosspot would form a light bulb change committee, have weekly meetings (at public expense, of course), and after the first year would still be working on a right proper definition of a light bulb.

Best to you and yours, and they now know we know what they are and what they do, thank fuck for the interwebs eh?

That reminds me - I need to search the interwebs for a simple ring modulator circuit I can build and connect to an electric bullhorn. When the torches and pitchforks come out and these parasites are surrounded in their homes, they'll soil their knickers for sure when they hear "Exterminate!" in an authentic sounding Dalek voice.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:03 | 3616601 robochess
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Hear! Hear!

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:32 | 3617018 WTFUD
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@ Inthemix
Worst of all the Boy Blunder Ed Millitard believes by sitting on the sidelines watching the two tards Cambo& Osbo screw things up that he has an opportunity to be the next PM.
Painful. Clueless fucker.
ED NO MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SON.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:17 | 3616546 earleflorida
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"Committee to Protect Journalist :    Defending Journalist Worldwide"     http://www.cpj.org/2013/05/justice-consistently-eludes-slain-pakistani-journa.php

God Bless You, Julian Assange

*three years +/+ imprisoned without a charge for telling the truth,... and Hillary + Obamas'`Holder, wants to put him in Guantamano on behalf of 'America's Pristine Foreign Policy'!!! 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:12 | 3616552 geotrader
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"National Security" has a whole new meaning under this administration. 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:31 | 3616573 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

"National Security" has a whole new meaning under this administration.

It's pretty much always meant "fuck the citizenry". What's different about this administration is that they don't even slap on a cheap veneer of phony concern for "the people".

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:32 | 3616572 monad
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This is circus. The part of the AG everyone loves to hate was played brilliantly by Eric Holder. Kudos to the shadow casting directors, whoever they are.

Want change? Then change. Read this: How To Serve Humans and contact Jack to make this movie, asap. If you like Fight Club you'll love this. Though modified to protect the innocent, its all true. There is much, much more where this came from. CYA. He says He's sorry...

Human nature is what it is. Role models and examples are what the present situation requires. This is what hype is for, after all. A few movies of this genre released in rapid succession will kick it up. As an added bonus to the historically highly lucrative merchandising, from experience all the survivors/witnesses do learn to discern and demand good government. Good constitutional republican government. Or you can just keep feeding these sharks.

Be all you can be. Act now.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 14:44 | 3616781 Things that go bump
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How to Serve Humans - isn't that a cookbook?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 23:27 | 3617597 monad
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What does messiah mean? If a common man, not an insider, uncommonly gifted in the frontier of mathphysics, discovered something extraordinary that could advance these mutant monkeys, if only they were not so hellbent on domination and would definitely use it to vaporize (at least) the solar system, would this nwo kill him, or enslave him, at their own peril and to the detriment of all? Or would these losers rise to the occasion? Confronted with this paradox, what would you do if you alone held this discovery? Don't throw up a knee jerk answer, think about it. Hold this question a while.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 02:51 | 3617763 Things that go bump
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I don't have Grisham's book. I don't have time to read the drug-addled memoirs of has-been punk rockers whose fame or infamy occurred without my notice because I was occupied doing grownup things. The music of my youth was rock and roll and I am equally disinterested in the drug-addled memoirs of the famous or infamous among has-been old rockers, though I envision the Stones still doddering onto a stage well into their dottage, dragging their oxygen tanks behind them as long as someone is nostalgic enough to pay to see them, though their fan base is growing rather thin. I don't believe in messiahs. I'm not expecting one, and I'm not sure I would welcome the interference of some deus ex machina should one appear. Our problems belong to us and are ours to work out. My comment was a joke, an allusion to an old episode of the Twilight Zone that was certainly before your time.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 12:07 | 3618211 monad
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Grisham is still a creative sob. I did intend the reference to Serling's rendition of our socialist benefactors; a mutual problem we can only oppose if we work together. How To Serve Humans must be required reading for sinister ivy league gangs. If they succeed we won't have any time we can call our own. I don't believe in grownup things. I find Dr. Leary's 8 circuit model of consciousness to be actionable.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 15:20 | 3618502 Things that go bump
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I do believe in grownup things. The prime directive of our species comes down to the business of changing diapers, wiping the butts of young children and seeing to their every need - an extremely intense and all-consuming endeavor that is not always immediately rewarding. Many previous interests have to be jettisoned due to time constraints, and you have to carefully choose what other things you can fit into your life. Sometimes you have to give up or severely curtail things you love and might have pursued in more depth if you had the leisure. My youngest was born in 1981 and the entire punk movement was lost to me. I find from Wikipedia that Leary's theory apparently is some offshoot of Cybernetics, which I did read in the 70s. I suspect Leary's theory is built on conjecture. Does he have any connection to Scientology? Is there any evidence in neuroscience to back this up? The title of the Serling episode was "To Serve Man," so I thought the reference was coincidental on your part. 

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 17:53 | 3618813 monad
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On average 5 of our men died per day to provide you a safe haven in which you raised your children.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 18:08 | 3618836 Things that go bump
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While it is true that a biological imperative in men is the protection of women of childbearing age and their children, I know of no men who died for me in that function.  

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 18:45 | 3618913 monad
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I guess I didn't do enough for you. You should get together with every woman I've ever known.

Sun, 06/02/2013 - 19:08 | 3618960 Things that go bump
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Oh, my dear, men always disappoint women. We need and expect things that men are not equipt to give. 

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 01:28 | 3622716 monad
Tue, 06/04/2013 - 05:22 | 3622850 MeelionDollerBogus
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to ACTUALLY provide or to just get killed in a uniform under the guise of said cause?

He said 1981 and last time I checked WW II ended 1946.

Pretty much every war since then has been a sham. Pretty much half or more of the police and ALL of the top brass in police in every US state and federally have been the worst crooks & terrorists alive. Waco was an FBI-orchestrated mass-murder covered up as a mass suicide.

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 12:21 | 3623700 monad
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She said 1981. WW1 never ended. DYOH 

She also said that she believes that men have a biological imperative to spontaneously eat shit and die. She's a pod.

Tue, 06/04/2013 - 15:05 | 3624263 MeelionDollerBogus
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hm, so I read after.

Well, so much for that.

Bitchez, bitchez.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:39 | 3616575 22winmag
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I have more respect for the average murderer, rapist, (insert serious criminal charge here...) than this suit-wearing felon.

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:42 | 3616579 Miss Expectations
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"They acknowledged the need for changes in their own guidelines and the need to have a more rigorous internal review,” Martin Baron added in the Washington Post."

Are they really talking about f*cking guidelines?  Oh, that's right back in 1774 the founders thought that they should take out their quill pens and write down a few guidelines. 

Oh, the only immigration legislation I want to see passed is a spending bill that will fund the deportation of every single illegal alien within 3 years.

 

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 12:43 | 3616584 BullyBearish
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As we have seen, the Constitution is not an absolute.  The only structural absolute is that power, or the perception of power corrupts absolutely.  The desire for that type of power is indicative of ASPD:

Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is described by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, fourth edition (DSM-IV-TR), as an Axis II personality disorder characterized by "... a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1] They have an "impoverished moral sense or conscience" and may have a "history of crime, legal problems, impulsive and aggressive behaviour."

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 17:09 | 3616978 Kirk2NCC1701
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So, Bullish for a career in Special Assignments within DOD, DHS, CIA...?
;-\,

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 13:00 | 3616600 kill switch
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I didn't have sex with that women, well I won't do it again this time promise.

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