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Ron Paul: "Iraq Collapse Shows The Bankruptcy Of Interventionism"
Submitted by Congressman Ron Paul via The Free Foundation blog,
May was Iraq’s deadliest month in nearly five years, with more than 1,000 dead – both civilians and security personnel -- in a rash of bombings, shootings and other violence. As we read each day of new horrors in Iraq, it becomes more obvious that the US invasion delivered none of the promised peace or stability that proponents of the attack promised.
Millions live in constant fear, refugees do not return home, and the economy is destroyed. The Christian community, some 1.2 million persons before 2003, has been nearly wiped off the Iraqi map. Other minorities have likewise disappeared. Making matters worse, US support for the Syrian rebels next door has drawn the Shi’ite-led Iraqi government into the spreading regional unrest and breathed new life into extremist elements.
The invasion of Iraq opened the door to Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which did not exist beforehand, while simultaneously strengthening the hand of Iran in the region. Were the “experts” who planned for and advocated the US attack really this incompetent?
Ryan Crocker, who was US Ambassador to Iraq from 2007-2009, still speaks of the Iraqi “surge” as a great reconciliation between Sunni and Shi’ite in Iraq. He wrote recently that “[t]hough the United States has withdrawn its troops from Iraq, it retains significant leverage there. Iraqi forces were equipped and trained by Americans, and the country’s leaders need and expect our help.” He seems alarmingly out of touch with reality.
It is clear now that the “surge” and the “Iraqi Awakening” were just myths promoted by those desperate to put a positive spin on the US invasion, which the late General William Odom once called, “the greatest strategic disaster in American history." Aircraft were loaded with $100 dollar bills to pay each side to temporarily stop killing US troops and each other, but the payoff provided a mere temporary break. Shouldn’t the measure of success of a particular policy be whether it actually produces sustained positive results?
Now we see radical fighters who once shot at US troops in Iraq have spilled into Syria, where they ironically find their cause supported by the US government! Some of these fighters are even greeted by visiting US senators.
The US intervention in Iraq has created ever more problems. That is clear. The foreign policy “experts” who urged the US attack on Iraq now claim that the disaster they created can only be solved with more interventionism! Imagine a medical doctor noting that a particular medication is killing his patient, but to combat the side effect he orders an increase in dosage of the same medicine. Like this doctor, the US foreign policy establishment is guilty of malpractice. And, I might add, this is just what the Fed does with monetary policy.
From Iraq to Libya to Mali to Syria to Afghanistan, US interventions have an unbroken record of making matters far worse. Yet regardless of the disasters produced, for the interventionists a more aggressive US foreign policy is the only policy they offer.
We must learn the appropriate lessons from the disaster of Iraq. We cannot continue to invade countries, install puppet governments, build new nations, create centrally-planned economies, engage in social engineering, and force democracy at the barrel of a gun. The rest of the world is tired of US interventionism and the US taxpayer is tired of footing the bill for US interventionism. It is up to all of us to make it very clear to the foreign policy establishment and the powers that be that we have had enough and will no longer tolerate empire-building. We should be more confident in ourselves and stop acting like an insecure bully.
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Thank God he was never elected president.
Yeah because if there is one thing we need that is a few more wars.
As long as it's someone else's kids over there right?
Perhaps the aim was to loot and destabilize Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc. in the first place.
Anyway, Dubya had 20 crippled servicemen to his ranch to ride mountain bikes - guess that makes it okay.
Ron Paul always likes to analyze the effect but seldom casts light on the cause....no mention of petrodollars, the bankers influence, the MIC or calls for Bush's arrest. He should be going full tilt against corruption now that he is retired but he doesn't, even though his voting record speaks a lot for his character I still think he is some sort of controlled opposition. Don't get me wrong I kinda like the guy but I trust him about as much as any other politician.....
Gee I'll point out a couple thousand dead and GLOAT how smart I am on the backs of approximately 1600 DEAD American soldiers. I am Ben Franklin!
But, but, but must is be war, and more war, in more place. There is large military industrial complex to feed!
Ron Paul – what a class act. I wonder who will be the next “Ron Paul” for my kids. He was the hope and change I was rooting for and it didn’t work out ……..
The guy pointed out this blunderfuck of epic proportions right from the start. No wonder the MSM did a continual hit job on him from that point onwards. Ron Paul is one of the few people in government who actually believe in what they say. I'm not in agreement with his values, but I am 100% respectful that his words reflect his values. The rest of the scum in office are liars and traitors like as usual in governments everywhere throughout history. Hopefully, human consciousness will evolve beyond electing useless lying cunts as our leaders at some point in the not too distant future.
Fuck corruption, fuck slavery.
And fuck the Murdoch press as well.
Amerika Main Stream Press is make Pravda to appear as bastion of free information. Vive la Pravda (RT)!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/115701.html
Boris is love theory of conspiracy! When can't sleep, Boris is tune on Short Wave radio to Coast-to-Coast AM!
Ron Paul has always talked about the cause as well as petrodollars and the bankers. His entire message has always been about too much government which is the ultimate cause of our current woes.
It's much more complicated than that... much more fundamental to man. The government is just one control mechanism out of a very robust tool chest... government isn't the ultimate cause of our current woes, it's the competitive spirit of people in a finite world... consequently, the same competitive spirit necessary to progress life... ergo, its continued existence and, thus, our destiny to repeat ourselves.
It seems to me that Ron Paul's approach is to take the high road. That's why he's involved with the Institue for Peace and Prosperity. Instead of drumming about the corruption and the causes he directs the focus and initiative towards what we should strive for; and also he emphasizes the strong correlation between peace and prosperity (as well as war and poverty and nation building). In other words, the "high road" approach is more likely to be effective than getting sucked into the mud slinging rhetoric game (because the media will always find a way to marganilize him and Libertarians alike).
Have you ever listened to Paul? Paul went full tilt against us even being there. Frankly, the cause of the issues in a foreign country are none of our business.
The sooner we start minding our own business and let the other people of the world address their OWN issues, the better.
One of the soldiers needs to take their prosthesis off and shove it up Bush's arse....sideways.
A "greater Israel" requires a "lessor" Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Egypt. No need to kill them just disrupt their strongmen them and tap their resources.
Talmudic Jew end game is elimination of competing Semitics. Haven't you read the Old Testament?
Can anyone name a single occasion in which interventionalism worked?
Charlie Sheen?
Define "worked"
As Lenin said, "who, whom?"
Japan, South Korea, Germany, Monroe doctrine, Waterloo and the 1831 treaty between France, UK, and Netherlands; those are a few off the top of my head.
Japan and Germany weren't interventions, they were direct engagements between combattants (U.S. on one side, aggressors Japan and Germany on the other).
Waterloo also wasn't an intervention. Monroe doctrine was interventionist indeed, but the only people it worked out really well for was the interveners, much like in Iraq.
I'll give you the proxy war in S Korea as an intervention that worked (mostly).
Everyone knows that we took out Saddam because he ordered the attacks on the World Trade Center. Duh.
I wrote in Ron Paul this last time after writing in Cynthia McKinney in '08. Does Paul understand that these aren't 'mistakes', but instead a well coordinated long range elite plan? We just picked up where the British left off. Amazing these guys can kill a million Iraqis and still sleep.
and here I thought we went into Iraq to grab thier oil....... so why is it that China seems to be the one with the oil contracts?
If the goobermint did invade Iraq to grab their oil, they have to be some of the most exceptionally incompetent fucks in history. Not that I am claiming that is a long shot....
And here I am remembering how he defied one UN ruling after another...
Bush should have called the bluff that was the UN, withdrew the US from it altogther, and let them resolve their own issues.
Unfortunately, there are too many in Congress that love the idea of rescue and nation building. Bush is gone, but they are still in office.
Vote out all those bastards.
Yeah, thank god! Things are just awesome w/ the last 5 or so fellas we elected.
Easy, man, "Scro" is obviously short for 'scrotum'... he's had a hard life.
He he
Chill bitches, I love what Ron Paul stands for (well most of it)
Yep, thank your gods that President Bernanke prevailed.
Yeah because then we couldn't send you son or daughter to be slaughtered for useless fucks like Obama and various sheiks, despots, and mutherfuckers.
we still don't have a big enough War Machine to keep us safe. and i'm not talking "from the terrorists." i like the word smithing of Doctor Paul "but this is war." Now is not the time to be deluded about what we're up against or how to win. "Rights to be real must have the full backing of the State." to try and exclaim "but the State doesn't really exist to begin with" really misses the point.
Scro tum....there, fixed it for ya douchebag.
Just gave you your 101st red vote.....even if it was intended as /S
I have NEVER seen a person down arrowed 204 times.
Ron Paul is a truth teller.
More like a half truth teller, he doesn't lie much but he only ever gives you half the picture.
Ron Paul can hardly complete a coherent sentence at this point.
Which sentences in his article above is incoherent? If you're going to make a statement, at least be prepared to back it up.
He isn't a fit, muslim baller.
My guts tell me than Ron Paul has a good heart.
Have you seen the clip where Dr. Paul is on Morton Downey Idiot saying the CIA ships in the drugs? I posted it a year or two ago. Can't be bothered to look it up again. What, a 30 year old snippet of an honest man fighting a seemingly pointless fight.
I'm surprised that he didn't give up on us all decades ago. It would have been condign had he done so.
Edit: Also, there was mention of angry words out of Chantilly last year about anything that smelled like Ron Paul. The protesters were described as cockroches. The surly mob created a daisy-chained loud horn sound cannon. Just for fun. Just to rattle the windows.
Shortly thereafter his campaign fell apart.
this guy's campaign never got started either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich still, had a good time singing kumbayah with the (almost all) girls actually back in 2004. Americans want Presidents for their Presidents...not peaceniks. "pick a fight with somebody" (the IRS is about as good as it gets) and win of course...
@TheMeatTrapper
Been noticing you are not receiving your up arrow votes when other scum are! What you dun wrong?
He's starting his post with a quote. That still freezes the arrow buttons for some reason.
Or perhaps you ignore the hard truths he tells that you do not like to hear.
Amen
"Aircraft were loaded with $100 dollar bills to pay each side to temporarily stop killing US troops and each other, but the payoff provided a mere temporary break"
Did Ron Paul just clue us in that if we want Bernak to drop that money from helicopters we need to start whacking each other?
The banks just get QE deposited nice and easily. The rest of us have to fight for it.
Doesn't apply here.
That only applies to countries that have natural resources (oil, minerals) that the US wants. They're not going to pay to exploit resources we already own.
There are horrors in Iraq? I thought that The One had everything under control.
Clearly this calls for yet another motivational speech, a hard pivot and beer summit or two perhaps. Maybe another (I really mean it this time!) Executive Order to close Gitmo or bring a few of the malcontents to a NYC courtroom for Holder to prosecute them will quiet the incessant moooing.
Its keeping me awake at night ;-)
Oh, dude, they like totally do.
It's like Benghazi over there, but with birthday candles.
Doc, I gotta ask..... are you getting worn down by all this shit yet? You seem to gather things up roughly like I do and you're obviously a regular here, like me. I keep seeing stupidity as stupidity. I keep recognizing collapse as collapse. But I'm not getting worn down by it, much to my surprise.
I have tried to purge myself of all thoughts of meritocracy and failed. I have tried to take the blue pill and failed.
I should, by all rights, be throwing in the towel at this point, but I'm not and I have no idea why. Since you're a doctor and all, maybe you have some insight?
I get tired of it from time to time and I have to take a break. But once your eyes are open there is no going back. The lie is always out there right in our face and the slow collapse is noticeable wherever we look.
There have been plenty of times when I thought " this is it" only to see them pull another rabbit out of their hat. I have accepted the fact that they can and will prolong this much longer than we can imagine and they will probably collapse it at a time of their choosing.
As far as me being a Dr.... well if you consider a science fiction character a dr. ....then I guess I qualify.
Don't you guys love a challenge? Even it it's a mental one. Your other choice is what?
I don't see one, which is why I stick around here and stink up the joint.
Now the good guys are in possession of the plastic shredders.
The state-run media is focused on recovery summer 4.
I love Ron Paul, but this is bollocks.
That area of the world has always been fucked up. Like it was soooooo much better when Uday and Qusai were running around raping, murdering, and killing people, while Saddam was gassing entire villages of Kurds.
It's a fucked up part of the world, our interventionalism has but a pale shade of effect looking back on the thousands of years of chaos there.
In a thousand years it will probably be no different than it is today, which will be no different than it was a thousand years ago.
I think his point is that America did not benefit in any tangible way (though lots of corporations did). If we truly are the world police, there are plenty of other shitholes we could be bombing for the children.
I agree, we should have at least taken the oil.
We're too altruistic if you ask me.
we're too altruistic? For real? Whatever.
Hey where did Al Huxley go. Al you out there? McMolotov?
"I agree, we should have at least taken the oil. We're too altruistic...."
They did take the oil. There was no altruism, and the war was not a mistake where they are concerned. But it works for the American public to say it was a mistake. What a great system. Steal America's wealth for the benefit of a few oligarchs claiming that the war is some grand fight for freedom and to avoid a mushroom cloud, then when your fake cover story is shown to be wrong you claim it was merely a mistake and people believe you (or they continue to believe the fake cover story anyway).
No, we didn't take the oil. Hell, they just barely got production going and the Chinese are scooping it up as fast as they can. This is not an endorsement for nation building, I just like truth. If you begin to believe things, however small, that just aren't true, you will soon have a very distorted view of the world.
Something I have always found odd is if you are GW, Tony Blair or any of the other nations that signed on to this "endeavor", wouldn't you make sure they found WMD's? I mean MAKE SURE they found WMD's like a cop dropping a bag of weed in a car he has pulled over. If your intentions are not exactly what you claim and you would want to avoid the PR nightmare of not finding WMD's, the very excuse you used to invade, wouldn't you take the risk of smuggling WMD's into Iraq and setting up the moment of discovery?
Could it be that the real reason was geopolitical? In between Iraq and Afghanistan is Iran. Squeezing Iran would certainly benefit Israel. But why would you concoct a fake story when you could easily just spin the truth?
Or could it have been overall strategy of the war on terror? They did not shut the borders in Iraq or Afghanistan which would have saved a lot of lives. The idea being you set up shop there and let them come to you. This would be one of the only ways to fight terrorist tactics with a large military. But not a very good strategy over the long hall. But if this was the real reason why lie?
Maybe they really believed Iraq had WMD's. Maybe it's all of the above mixed with extreme incompetence. How did all these nations sign on to this? So half the world is really that stupid?
Well.....given that pressure-cooker devices are now officially designated as WMDs.....it can easily be said that Iraq did, in fact, possess a shitload of WMD-type stuff after all.
Such is the beyond-ludicrous world we live in today.
"I think his point is that America did not benefit in any tangible way (though lots of corporations did)"
Halliburton, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon ........... the rest of us ? Not so much.
America did benefit from fucking around in Iraq- the Chinese are getting fuck-tons of cheap oil from Iraq now, so the gold guzzling Chinese consumers compete less with the gas and debt guzzling American consumers, which keeps US gas at the relatively cheap pump price of $3.67 per gallon.
So what was the point in us being there? Was it effective? Or did we just send a bunch of kids over there to die and get limbs blown off for nothing? RP's point has always been that we need to mind our own business, and you just proved it correct.
War in general is pointless. Millions of boys have died in pointless wars for centuries, and millions more will die in the future.
As water is wet there will be many future pointless wars. It's just reality.
No doubt. Some things will never change.
Smedley Butler nailed it decades back....
"War is a racket." and "I have spent a career in the service of American Business."
Sure there have been a lot of wars in that region. That doesn't mean we should be sticking our noses into their business. Let them fight it out until either one side wins or they finally get sick of it and try something new.
Anyone with even a passing interest in and minimal familiarity with the history of Islam can see that, like most every other natural system, it is one of dynamic equilibrium. In particular, its main internal axis of conflict is rural vs urban communities. Sound familiar? What this really means is rural conservative Islam and urban decadent Islam are always in some stage of a cyclical conflict that predates Islam by thousands of years, and exists everywhere that both rural and urban communities exist within the same society.
The role of Islam qua religion is rather small, actually, in this dynamic. It serves as the standard by which the traditionalist segment judges the others on charges of degeneration, heresy, decadence, etc., as well as providing the pretext, being that it is an exclusionary religion, for "restoration of the faith".
Just like every other religion that ever had any success, since the agricultural revolution.
Christian Europe, e.g., wasn't exactly the land of peace, though about 99% of its inhabitants claimed to follow the Prince of Peace.
Some basic knowledge of Islam should really be established before one presumes to pass judgment on it.
Yes, this is what makes it bullish for MIC stocks and deficits. Banksters win, we lose this zero-sum game. Anything about this that's confusing? /s
one & only you've sucked in the classic racist propaganda. sure only the west is truly civilised.
15th century china was the most advanced. 13th century the middle east was. At times persia has been more advanced than europe
get an education you moron, saddam and uday were fucked up monsters that were supported by the west. How many hundreds of years has it been since the middle east was allowed to choose its own leaders democratically? I think you might find the answer to much of the disharmony there.
If theres one thing i fucking despise its the arrogance of Anglo presumed supremacy. And i'm an anglo myself.
Are you really implying that hundreds of years ago people of the Middle East chose their own leaders democratically?
You've got to be kidding. A thousand years ago, Bagdad was the most culturally and scientifically advanced city in the world and Europe was full of mud farmers with nothing.
A thousand years from now, the world will be dramatically different from the way it is today. That is as much as we can say.
The way things are going, human beings won't be here in a thousand years. We seem determined to drive ourselves to extinction - and are succeeding admirably in doing so. It's not going to matter how many billions you have when the planet becomes uninhabitabel for human beings.
"In a thousand years it will probably be no different than it is today, which will be no different than it was a thousand years ago."
So what was the point? It seems RP is the only one making a point here.
it may have been fucked up before, but ZERO american soldiers were dying or getting maimed.
4,488 American soldiers died, and 32,000 got maimed. For what? peace? stability in Iraq? There's no more peace than before, and there's certainly no stability.
Plus we wasted $800,000,000,000+
We can't afford to fix our highways, but i'll be damned if we didn't bomb Iraq's highways to hell and then rebuilt it for them.
That it was fucked up gives neither license to fuck it up some more, nor justification for the spilt American blood.
Except it was a huge boon to the oil companies (who now get to bid on oil contracts that Saddam kept for state run entities) and defense contractors (obvious) and of course the banks who financed everything, and who were always the real intended receipients of the transfer of wealth that was the Iraq intervention.
The Israelis benefitted and the neocons were almost exclusively responsible for the made-up bullshit on WMD (yellowcake, mtgs in Prague, etc.).
"Anti-Semite" grenade in 3...2...1...
Bingo
William there has got to be something you can do with this. Apparently Israel is ready to escelate this thing, although several of their soldiers seem to suffer from cottage cheese ass.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/female_israeli_soldiers_post_unbecoming_SKVASg1wCIZ7E1npZz3UPI
I like cottage cheese.
Cottage cheese - acceptable.
Cottage cheese ass jokes - frowned upon.
Cottage Cheese Cake anyone?
Jew broads have to be the ugliest skanks on the planet. They're even holding bitch guns-AR15s.
I certainly did not want to see Danny Pearl beheaded, but he probably was a spy for Israel.
Kind of like those 3 Israeli whores were just "hiking" in Iran a few years ago.
I always thought Zeva was kinda hot.... I guess trailer park males are threatened.....
Rebeccah Hershkovitz sounds way hotter, but whats in a name anyhow.
The knock on effects of getting to establish a heroin industry in Afghanistan was just icing on the cake...
All those black ops don't pay for themselves (except when Ben prints Ben bucks to support them I suppose).
"All those black ops don't pay for themselves..."
Big time drugs (heroin, etc.) don't move without governments getting their cut.
You know the IRS won't fuck with the CIA's Swiss accounts.
China signed the oild deal... They used the mony to buy our food supply.. Heck Saudies bought GE plastics.. Get with the program.
Yeah yeah yeah, say that to Boeing, Martin Marrieta, and the rest of the military establishment.
Do you think F18s and F35s and M1A1s belong in warehouses? Do you?
Apacopalypse Now Redux Again Part II as the whole of Humerika goes upriver to kill the Imaginary Col Kurtz to save God.
"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"-Colonel Walter E. Kurtz
Paul is certainly correct about American interventionism and money creation, but as a libertarian I believe he is wrong about many things, such as not believing in civil rights or a social safety net of any kind.
Not sure what brand of libertarianism you follow with talk about social safety nets and civil rights violations that never happened in real life, only in the made up world created by our media . Me thinks you belong in the Hillary '16 camp. Just my opinion.
Civil rights subjectively defined and dictated at gunpoint? Social safety net funded with money confiscated at gunpoint? LOL, you're no libertarian. Just another progressive attempting to mislead and pervert another word. May the word "liberal" rest in peace.
Stick around long enough and you'll see there will be no social net for anybody, anywhere, ever. We used to look after ourselves. Fuck, there was no safety net. And for those on tough times, there was charity, room and board for some work, etc. Fuck, nobody did without. And certainly not like now where billions are spent and 50 million people are on food stamps. Yeah, there's a fucking social safety net thats working real good. Keeping people in a state of perpetual dependency. Gezzus give your head a shake. And civil rights......Paul has and continues to be misunderstood (mostly by people who choose to misunderstand him), Paul is against government saying who can and cen't enter their private places (establishments). Property rights advocates understand this. It has nothing to do with race.
Guess you never saw the county workhouses and orphanages where parents who coiuldn't afford to raise kids lefft them. Old folks starved if none of their kids survived or were willing to take them in.
Miners worked but never got out of debt to the company stopre. Workers that were injured or crippled opn the job LOST their job.
The 'safety net' of old was patchy and haphazard at best. The current gpvernment programs are the only reason you don't have soup kitchen lines now. But if you look hard enough we DO have 'Hooverville' tent cities - homeless people hidden away out of sight. The local campground has far more homeless than 'tourists' putting a 2 week limit on stays. And a fifth of the peopel in the local homeless shelters HAVE jobs - that pay so lousy they can't afford anywhere to live. The same shelter is also dealing with way too many mental hospital releases who should NOT be on the street but in treatment (that doesn't exist).
Right because prior to LBJ's Great Society this country had such a thriving free market and no government.
Somebody's gotta pay for it, and if you think people back then didn't pay taxes...
It seems you haven't a clue.
a. The Civil Rights Act != 'civil rights'
b. social safety net is bollocks. Social Security was created for people who outlived the expected LIFE EXPECTANCY of 65 at the time. It wasn't meant to be a 'retirement fund' and we were never taxed to the extent needed to fund it as a retirement fund. The benefits were always increased though (eligibility aged remained even though life expectancy increased)
as Penn Jillette so eloquently said:
"It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.
People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered, and if we're compassionate we'll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint."
A healthy economy that creates jobs and lets failed businesses go bust and illegal business close down should be the primary social net.
as usual, interventionism= misunderestimating islam 101
There goes my President... forever and always...
ChickenHawk, chickenshit neo-con Bill Kristol said on CSPAN (about 2 months ago) that Iraq was doing fine and that the surge worked and that American blood/treasure spent in Iraq was worth it......see how these stinking/fuckers lie......still lying about Iraq 10 yrs after the war started......
edit.....interview in January........These neo-cons want more war........listen to this interview about 33 minutes in.......
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ObamasSec
Chilling.
What scares me the most is that Ron Paul's simple message generates such controversy.
That is a measure of how completely far off we are, and gives easy hints about where we're going...
May the good doctor carry on, in spite of it all.
To his detractors, come and gone, who helped to marginalize him, or just continue to belittle even now...
you will rue the day when you failed to see a Patriot ready, willing and able, if only he had support.
Why are you surprised? Abe Lincoln rates in the top 5 in most people's "best" president list. At times, I don't know whether I should laugh or cry about this.
Did I say I was surprised?
I love Dr Paul. But let's face it ... if you're on the receiving end of social assistance, medicare, medicaid, TBTF banking bailouts, "defense" contracts, the Obamacare medical industry windfall, what's it in it for you to vote for him ?
"May was Iraq’s deadliest month in nearly five years"
Funny, I never heard anything about that on MSNBC, CNN, Yahoo, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, .........
I did hear about Mariah Carey's outfits though :
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/mariah-carey-still-pull-off-croppe...
OMG ! Oh My God ! Mariah ! Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrl ! OMG ! You've got to be KIDDING me !!! Still pulling off a CROPPED TOP ! OMG !!!!
That pig has been ridden more than the Concorde.
... and we all know what happened to the Concorde ....
I thought she was dead... Whatever, I have no interest in who it actually was, they are all the same fake personalities to me.
Funny, none of that was ever shown on the MSM. What a surprise... if the MSM doesn't report it, it doesn't exist... according to most folks.
I don't care how old this guy is. I'd vote for this guy again.... just on principle.
Aways a breath of fresh air. Thanks Ron.
The CIA is currently doing the third round of interviews for the next ruthless leader of Iraq. Our hand picked dictator should seize power(with a little help from his friends) before the new year. Praise America!
Asking a Republican if Iraq was a "success" or "worth it" is a great way to get that deer in the headlights look from them. They never seem to want to talk to me after I ask them such a simple question.
Just take a moment & watch featured news stories.
http://www.iraqiembassy.us/
#3843 - Brawl between Jordanian Ba'thists and Staff of Iraq Embassy in Amman over Saddam Hussein's Legacy
Lastly, US Embassy Baghdad Iraq • Biggest embassy in the world
Imagine a medical doctor noting that a particular medication is killing his patient, but to combat the side effect he orders an increase in dosage of the same medicine.
Code blue! code blue! Somebody page Dr. Krugman and Dr. Bernanke..........STAT! Good article RP, but that line really hit home.........STAT!
Neoconservative Jews {and relax, thought police - we all acknowledge most American Jews are liberals, not neocons} were the single biggest factor behind Iraq, and it isn't a question of "dual loyalty" - dual loyalty would be a welcome change. These assholes, who fabricated evidence to lie us into war did it for "Eretz Israel" which, I promise you, has no intention of anything but continuing to ethnically cleanse and annex more and more land, all while claiming to be acting in its defense.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/04/the-victory-of-the-noble-lie/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
Learn ye, children, of the Office of Special Plans. It was an all neocon affair, and mostly Jewish. Do you realize the significance of the fact that a minority of a minority {neocon Jews} were virtually in charge of delivering 'evidence' that Iraq had wmds, ties to Al Qaeda, etc.? That doesn't happen by accident - these guys actually wrote policy papers for Netanyahu.
You know, the guy no one calls a racist or religious nut because he's a Jew, and we seem to be conditioned to only apply that label to Muslims and the odd whack job Christian?
It was no coincidence that Netanyahu went before Congress and told them there was no doubt Saddam was working on a nuke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc
He had dozens of agents in play in the Pentagon and CIA, who were and are loyal primarily to Israel, protected, number one, by the operant conditioning attendant to the label "anti-semite" - a misnomer if there ever were one.
We can have the current head of the IRS and the prior two be Jewish, the current Treasurer {and his deputy and ALL the undersecs}, and head the Fed, the CFTC, the CBO, until recently the SEC, Office Management and Budget, Council of Economic Advisors, and the National Economic Council - basically all the major agencies having to do with banking or financial oversight.... and no one will talk about this massive, and ongoing over-representation because they've convinced you that's "hate" - but its not hate to worry that the local police or fire department is too white or male.
Good grief, there is no fucking hope. This country has been hijacked by political Zionism as much as it's under the control of the military industrial and gas/oil complexes.
But we can't even talk about it - not even on here, it seems. It seems that all it takes is for someone to claim that they know my recitation of facts stems from "hate" rather than being an America Firster and a bit of a peace hippie to boot.
Have they really convinced America that the truth is "anti-semitic" and that Ashkenazi Jews, but not Arabs, are "semites"?
amen bro...........Great post!!
Don't tell kito- he thinks the only thing the Jews run is Manny's deli.
The only thing that will save us is if more Jews take the stand that Netanyahu's nephew has taken.
Meet Bibi Netanyahu's Refusenik Nephew Who Says That Israel Is an Apartheid Statehttp://www.alternet.org/world/meet-bibi-netanyahus-refusenik-nephew-who-says-israel-apartheid-state
Come on, just have them read for them selves.
Rebuilding America's Defenses - Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century(Sept 2000 letter to Clinton)
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
and
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (1996)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_...
I look forward to Ron Paul's paper on "Give them Hell" Chairsatan's FINANCIAL interventionism in global markets. There has to be some sanity somewhere in this country.
Its becomming more clear every day... TPTB are aiming to destabilize USA for this nwo scheme. Its what the brits tried to do during the civil war ect. Just look at us! Were all fucking paranoid. There is a TV show called preppers for fucks sake. And when it all falls apart... Guess who comes to pick up the ppeices?!?!
In a world without heros, Dr Paul is a real hero. Not to say he is always right, but he almost always is right, and he is always sincere and well-intended. God Bless Ron Paul and God Bless America.
Well, by jiminy, that's some nation-building. Let's bring some more democracy over there to those who hate us for our freedom.
I love our president. He said it was about time to do some nation-building here.
I wish big ears was still around.....
Aside from being equally irrelevant and ineffectual, the former congressman and loyal controlled oppositionist standing in front of the American flag offers the patina of respectability to our highly institutionalized and ingrained system of murder and mayhem which has its roots in much deeper evil than this avowed freemason in his saccharin sanguinity would have us believe.
Given the proverbial and only too obvious choice between incompetence and outright malfeasance, the former candidate, who had found every possible opportunity to defeat and sabotage his own campaign and dilute his message, suggests the former, only apparently blythely unaware that the stratagems of the elitist engineers of the war crimes being engaged in in the ME are going more or less precisely according to plan.
The destruction, subversion and massive destabilization of the ME and North Africa begun in Iraq are being undertaken for petro dollar profits and control of resources by corporate hegemons and their military henchmen, a truly genuine matrix of evil which has need of a loyal opposition spouting nostrums of morality and ethics which actually find absolutley no currency in statist geopolitcal ambitions.
Tired of footing the bill? We haven't even started yet.
Saddam and Osama were both the pride and joy of the CIA and the white house at one point. 'Stupid fucking losers' is what comes to mind.
I agree, it was one of the biggest blunders this country has ever been involved with. George W. had his finger in the dyke, O just took his out. We are just getting a view of the shit thats about to go down. I'm getting some sand bags.
Please Tyler,
Can you alert the world that the IRS is apparently pestering other people than the Tea Party. I just got of the phone with my US operator since two months (visiting with family, 3 kids the youngest is 11 months). Since Thursday night I am not able to make international calls due to technical issues and I have been promised callbacks from tech/supervisors every day. Tonight when it still had not happened I got a bit upset, the woman (sneaky false bitch) on the other side then said something was fraudulent. I on the other hand said I'm not a kingpin drugdealer just a bit finance dealing but I do have to handle Europe while Im here.
This creature then tells me IRS is involved, I then again explain I am here visiting with spouse, 3 kids younger than 3,5 and I don't see how I can be a TARGET. I ask for a supervisor who just kept the same mantra re investigating tech issues.
If the IRS is now also following foreigners buying simcards without having any business in the US, just visiting for two months due to maternity leave, I think this is beyond control. 1984 is so outdated.....
The operateror is Ultra.me
Again never use them if you are a foreigner visiting the US, or rather I must say the need of visiting the US has dramatically deteriorated.
Tyler make something out of this, its way beyond return if this is true.
Best rgds
Fascists are in power,not control. Sorry for your troubles. Don't whine to the Tylers about your personal problem, your country.
The decision to invade Iraq will likely go down as the worst decision in American history.
What about the crestion of the Fed? Follow the $.
From "America's" perspective ya, but that wasn't the criteria that was used now was it?
I like Ron Paul, but he doesn't name the names of who has ruined America and the real reason why America is destabilizing Syria. Brother Nathanael nails it better than anybody out there.
McCain Meets Terrorists In Syria
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=823
True, but discretion is the better part of valor.
Time tells all. This is a time for traders wordwide to beware.
McCain consorts with Al-Queda which some say is Al-CIAda, the international financiers of old Europe wanting to divide and rule for their hofjuden, monarchy, Vatican: the Trilateral Commission.
Their hubris created one quadrillion unregulated otc derivatives equal to more than world gdp, and they are terrfied that taxpayers might refuse to foot their bill, their greed, their chosen political pets.
The love of money is the root of all evil. That is the dark heart of the Trilateral Commission, monarchists, Vatican, nazionists, assisted by the likes of the Rockefellers, hateful monopolists, not Americans.