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Guest Post: The Terrible Future Of The Syrian War
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
The last war America fought openly through proxy was the Vietnam War. The idea was not necessarily “new”; General Smedley Butler’s exposé on his career as a conqueror-for-hire, titled War is a Racket, uncovered a long history of bloodshed by U.S. government and corporate interests in third world countries designed to destroy sovereign nations and plunder their resources. This was done through the use of mercenaries for hire, military men acting covertly or guerrilla forces with a pre-existing agenda supplied through back channels.
After our defeat in Vietnam, our government set forth on a program of private warfare. The "School of the Americas" was formed, also known as the School of Assassins, in Fort Benning, Georgia. The combat academy churned out some of the most unstable monsters in third world politics. The U.S. trained and conditioned agents for violent social change and military overthrow, who were then implanted around the world (mostly in Central and South America). These agents then initiated war fever in the name of cementing U.S. interests around the globe. Their horrifying methods were seen as a means to an end.
The sad and disturbing reality is that most wars fought by our country over the course of the past century have not been fought on principle. Instead, they have been fought for profit and for the consolidation of power and oligarchy.
Vietnam was a break in the tradition of secret puppet conflicts, sending the U.S. into the realm of openly admitted proxy. The establishment wanted the American people to know that we were supplying funding and weapons to the South Vietnamese nationalists, meddling in a civil war which had absolutely no bearing on U.S. international relations or domestic policy. The rationalization then was that America had to stop the spread of communism. Ironically, the communists of North Vietnam were a minimal threat compared to the elitist communists within our own borders sitting in positions of political power.
Ultimately, the Vietnam War had nothing to do with fighting communism, and everything to do with manipulating the public into accepting the concept of foreign intervention. That is to say, we were being conditioned to think of interventionism as a perfectly normal U.S. policy.
The war in Vietnam was achieved in stages. First, the U.S. aided then abandoned the government of Ngo Dinh Diem, who was assassinated during a military coup inspired partly by Diem’s despotic mistreatment of the Vietnamese populace. Money was then sent to cement the power of the military junta in the name of countering the rise of the communist North. Soon, weapons and heavy ordinance were being shipped to the South. Then, U.S. “advisors” were sent to train South Vietnamese soldiers.
Full intervention was successfully avoided by the John F. Kennedy Administration until his assassination, after which President Lyndon B. Johnson launched into a full-spectrum U.S. invasion which the mainstream referred to as a “police action.” This invasion was facilitated by the "Gulf of Tonkin event", which is now openly admitted by officials of the day, including Robert McNamara, as a false flag incident entirely fabricated by the U.S. government in order to engineer a validation for outright war. Simultaneously, Chinese and Russian interests began supplying the North, though their involvement never officially led to boots on the ground.
I rehash this history because I think it is important to note that the Vietnam theatre seems to have been recycled in Syria today, though the cast of characters has been rearranged slightly. This time, the U.S. and Europe has supported the insurgency. The government of Bashar al-Assad has been cast as the “villain”. Russia and China are now playing the role of mediators and peacemakers, while the West now sends men like Senator John McCain to throw money and weapons into the hands of a rebellion permeated with members of Al Qaeda, who decapitate and eat the hearts of prisoners on video, and who, last time I checked, were supposedly our enemy.
The process and escalation of the conflict has been very similar to our adventures in Southeast Asia. Money has been openly sent to the rebels. Weapons have likely been covertly sent (evidence suggests that this program was perhaps a part of the reason for the Benghazi incident and subsequent cover-up). Now, certain parties within the U.S., Israel, and the EU have suggested open armament of the insurgency, while destabilization of the region is blamed on Assad by the Western media. A false flag event seems to have already been fabricated in the form of a chemical weapons attack. Samples of a particular Sarin gas incident have allegedly been collected by French journalists from the La Monde newspaper, and have been supplied to the UN. The UN of course has identified the samples as Sarin and has immediately led the public to believe that the Syrian government was involved, though they have been forced to acknowledge that the insurgents may also have access to similar chemical weapons. My question is, who the hell is La Monde? Are we really supposed to believe that random embedded journalists with no agenda have supplied the UN with substantial proof of chemical weapons by the Assad regime? Where are these samples? Where were they taken? Where is the proof that they were taken during a combat incident? I smell an Iraqi setup special all over again...
In response to the accelerated armament of what many now consider an entirely fabricated revolution, Russia, Iran, and Lebanon have offered aid to Assad. Russia has supplied Syria with weaponry for years, though shipments have increased in recent months, including a new shipment of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles which has infuriated Israel (Israel has claimed it has no intention to escalate, even thought it has twice used airstrikes within Syria’s borders — their anger over S-300 shipments only shows that they intend to continue such aggression).
Iran has a longstanding mutual defense pact with Syria and has stated that any further direct incursions by the West will result in Iranian involvement (though I think it likely that they are already involved sending arms and advisors of their own). Lebanon has supplied actual ground troops to Assad through Hezbollah. They are aiding the Syrian army in what appears to be a successful campaign against the insurgency. Hezbollah was very effective in repelling an invasion by Israel in 2006, causing the United Nations to step in to provide face-saving resolutions and an excuse for Israeli retreat. I believe their involvement in Syria will be a game changer.
I have been writing and warning about Syria’s potential as a catalyst for an expanded global war for years, long before most people had ever heard of Assad, and much of what I have predicted in the past is now coming true. Whether you believe the Assad regime is good or evil, it is important to realize that our government’s involvement in the region has nothing to do with Assad. This conflict is about setting off chain reactions in the Middle East, and, perhaps, even triggering a world war. You can read more about this in my article “Syria And Iran Dominos Lead To World War.”
Using Vietnam and other proxy wars as a reference, here is how I believe the war in Syria is likely to progress over the coming months:
- Heavy weapons will be supplied to the insurgency, including anti-aircraft weapons, leading to increased casualties, especially civilian casualties.
- Assad will respond with expanded and deadly airstrikes and ground troops will advance with the aid of Hezbollah.
- Iran will begin openly supplying arms, and step up covert supplies of advisors and ground troops.
- Russia will increase arms shipments even further, including anti-ship, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles in order to dissuade U.S. and Israeli interests from sending their own forces into the area.
- Syrian insurgents will begin losing ground quickly. The UN will offer to “mediate” a ceasefire, but this will only be designed to allow the insurgents time to regroup, and for the U.S., EU and Israel to position themselves for attack.
- The UN ceasefire talks will be a wash, if they even take place. Israel will begin regular airstrikes in the name of stopping Iran and Hezbollah from interfering in the war, or to stop them from obtaining “chemical weapons.” The strikes will be aimed at Syrian military facilities and Syrian infrastructure. There will be many civilian casualties.
- Syria will respond with ground to air and ground to ground missiles. Israeli cities will see far more precise targeting than the scud missiles used by Iraq during Gulf I and Gulf II. Civilian deaths will be much higher than expected, despite common claims that Israeli missile defenses are the most advanced in the world (Israel has never faced the threat of advanced Russian missile systems).
- A no-fly zone will be announced over Syria, enforced by U.S. and Israeli planes, along with anti-aircraft batteries.
- A violent attack will take place in Israel, likely against a civilian population center (I would not be surprised if chemical weapons are involved). The attack will be blamed on the Assad government, or affiliated allies. It might be a real attack or it might be a false flag. In either case, the result will be the commitment of Israeli ground troops.
- I think it highly probable that Israel will be the first Western country to invade Syria. However, their involvement will immediately draw a declaration of war from Iran, and, increased ship movements from Russia, which maintains a strategic naval base off the coast of Tartus.
- Israel will be swallowed up in a strategic quandary, and will demand U.S. military action. The U.S. will supply that action. Combat will spread into cross-border battles in countries not directly engaged in the fight (as it did in Cambodia during Vietnam).
- China will respond with economic retaliation, dumping the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency. Russia will respond by reducing petro-product exports to Europe and staging a massive naval presence in the region. From this point, all bets are off…
Now, the temptation here is for one to immediately take sides and to look at this conflict through the lens of “East vs. West.” This would be a mistake. The Syrian government has in the past acted in tyrannical fashion (though much of the latest accusations appear to be propaganda designed to lure the American public into rallying around another war).
Russia is just as restrictive an oligarchy as the U.S. or the EU. China’s society is a communist nightmare state and the average globalist’s aspiration for what they want America to become one day. Iran has many oppressive policies and is certainly not the kind of country I would ever want to live in. The Syrian insurgency is a mixture of immoral and unprincipled death squads and paid covert wet-work agents. The U.S. government is immorally supplying the cash and weapons for them to operate in the name of fighting the same kind of tyranny that is being instituting here at home.
The point is, there are no “good guys” in this story. There are no heroes; only the insiders, the outsiders, and the general public. It has been the habit of the public to ignore most past proxy wars and then flip on the patriotism switch during the rare occasions that American troops are actually deployed. Given time for adequate contemplation (as well as significant American losses), the citizenry eventually turns sour against the paradigm and demands a change. This time, however, there may be no time for such contemplation. I believe that any forward ground action in Syria on the part of the U.S. or Israel will result in a very fast moving global war.
Such a war would seem like insanity, but it serves a vital purpose for certain special interests. It would provide perfect cover for a global economic crash which is about to occur anyway, except in the midst of war, international bankers can divert blame away from themselves. It would provide a rationalization for overt domestic security and the reduction of civil liberties in the name of public safety. It would allow an excuse for a government crackdown on activist groups, who can be labeled “traitors” who aid the enemy simply by speaking ill of government policy. It would give credence to the ideology of globalization and centralized governance. The elites could claim that sovereignty must be erased and all nations must come together under a single banner so that such a “terrible catastrophe” will never happen again.
The war in Syria will not be about Syria. It will not be about the freedom of the people. It will not be about dethroning Assad or establishing democracy. It will not be about defusing violence in the region. Syria will not be the target; we will be the target — our society, our rights, our nation.
America is in the middle of the most insidious consolidation of power in history and Syria is merely a stepping stone in the game. If we cannot maintain our vigilance and allow ourselves to be sucked into the proxy war façade, the elites will get their global conflict with little to no home opposition. The globalists will win, and everyone else will lose.
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It's no mystery. The vermin stepped in when Americans lost their taste for killing.
The pieces are as much in place as ever, I really would appreciate some enlightenment as to why the "game" has not begun - in earnest, a la Vietnam, yet.
Hard to believe there are any governments on the NATO/Israel side not itching for a war ASAP, perhaps they're hoping to keep this a proxy affair, but that doesn't lead to record MIC profits like a fullscale hot war does.
/ramble
War on a large enough scale may be an even more effective distraction than football.
but that doesn't lead to record MIC profits like a fullscale hot war does.
Our beloved Owners may be sociopaths but they're not stupid.... and they're not suicidal. They know a fullscale hot war in modern times might lead to their (and their families) being incinerated by a nuclear bomb along with everyone else.
While Obama nominates pro-Syrian intervention witch to the UN...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/05/who-exactly-is-samantha-power...
While Russia's boats full of weapons, possibly including S-300s are a day (at most) away from Syrian ports...
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/05/world/meast/syria-russia-shipments/
Everything is lining up.
Take your vacations as soon as you can... because we might not be alive this fall.
is popcorn sold in Pocatello ... ?
thinking on heading somewhere remote ...
this establishment seems fitting:
blackswaninn.com
the end.
Yes, it is. But Pocatello is not remote. Leesburg Idaho is starting to get remote. Cold winters there but it can be done. Good luck.
Try Burke.
http://maps.google.com/maps?bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47534661,d.cGE&biw=...
cdm,
You must be part of the Glenn Beck cult, not that, that is a bad thing.
wait ... is there really a Glenn Beck cult ?
do they have free popcorn ?
is the popcorn served with Flavor Aid ?
oh, other people are going to be there ...
fuck it, i am not going.
if the russian air defense system is worth spit, there will be too many losses to sustain a no fly zone over syria. there will also be too many civilian casualties, i see obummer just appointed susan rice as national security advisor, if he wants to wage a war on the cuff it won't happen, he just spent what was left of his political capital. johnny mccain wants to arm the rebels, obama position? allow any and all unauthorized aid to the syrian rebels. just don't tell me about it.
I dunno. Surely there are fewer of these missiles than there are US/Israeli drones? (Serious question)
One uses smaller rockets and missles on the drones, they are relative slow fliers.
Go read up and find they can destroy multiple targets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7-bew89O8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmOR_iBaWOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT2PO3q1uBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE5xxOGGAFU
I know they can destroy multiple targets simultaneously. My point was that if the US/Israel has hundreds of drones, and Syria only has a few dozen S300 missiles, they'll quickly run out of the latter trying to destroy the former.
Arrest McCain as he consorted with terrorists in Syria; dared to show his face with them; dares to defy the Constitution, and pursue unconstitional war. He is a traitor who deserves to get what he espouses to others: torture. Although most Americans would not torture others, this being the only country whose troops refused to hand over their jewish friends to Nazis.
Nazis, brought into the USA under Operation Paperclip, assisted by the likes of Kissinger, the nazionist, Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers, their Bilderberg Group marketing group now meeting in London with Bernanke and Patreus traitors to the Republic.
NO MORE WAR.
Secular Syria is being torn apart by nazionists, and honest Americans are going to be blamed when it is freak show nazionists like McCain who are to blame. O'bomba too.
McCain consorts with Al-Quaeda, and they killed an entire Christian village after he left, and they are said to be enemies of the West.
McCain and O'bomba are nazionists, not true Americans, and most certainly they do hate Christians,and ordinary jews, the founders of the USA, the country that is exceptional because it said separate church from state; respect all, not the hateful old world monarchists and their rule by religion, money power, Vatican, the axis of evil paedophiles.
My only disappointment here is that I have but only one up arrow to give.
I'll give one in your name.
We won't get fooled again, will we.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
While all this is happening... Iran has an election on June 14... if nothing changes on the nuclear front (and it's very likely it won't)... Israel might just go ahead and bomb Iran while Hezbollah and Assad are too busy to be Iran's pawns.
This summer is gonna be hot... real hot and real bloody.
They old "they gassed the Kurds trick eh" I don't even know why they bother with that nonsense because even if someone was "gassed" in Syriah who gives a rats ass. NONE of our business. If the people don't like they will eventually do something about it. IF not then they deserve what they get even though we all know this "gassing" business if bullshit.
True.
Americans are going to be blamed for the folly of the few nazionists who control Wall St and Washington.
Our Armed Forces are being used and abused, for the profit of the few.
Well, then, the members of our armed forces can JUST STOP FUCKING VOLUNTEERING, now, can't they? Yeah, there's an idea. Stop signing up to get your legs blown off FOR NOTHING.
America forgets Iraq.
1000 dead in Iraq in May; 700 of those in Baghdad, that country's safest city.
The Sunni and Shia hate each other; kill each other. Waste out blood and treasure. The ordinary Iraqi was better off under Sadam Hussein because they had regular running water, electricity.
Now, they are ruined by the likes of McCain, and other nazionists, and O'bomba continuing the Bush wars. Filth who kill American troops and others, all for their filthy nazionism, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group.
Do they really? Enough to tolerate the occupation and be at each others throats instead of fighting the occupators? Gotta pause and wonder about that.
Who benefits when an oil rich country is supposedly pre-occupied with tribal infighting?
Until they're smart enough to figure it out ... we are winning.
"Until they're smart enough to figure it out ... we are winning."
Yeah, take a look around, dumbass...take a look at how utterly AWESOME it is that we're "winning." Check out the awesome collection of kick-ass "winners" that currently reside in the United States...LOL...
Perhaps he should have put 'we' in quote marks
If the war in Syria pisses off the Chinese,then the Reserve currency is toast.They don't need to dump the US Debt (T-Bills). The jump in gold prices and margin calls will crater whats left of the US Finance system. I still think there is a definite weapons link between the Benghazi episode and whats happening in Syria. Bradley Manning ,where are ya when we need ya....
China, the world's oldest continous civilisation.
Not going to be ruined by Eurocraps trade war on solar panels. Retaliates with tariffs on euro wine.
John Lennon said: if you are honest, you won't have many friends; you will have the right friends.
If your playing the long game you dont get pissed off and wipe all the pieces from the board. If you get down to a knight and a bishop and the other guy has a rook and a queen yea you wipe all the pieces off the board. Thats why its not in anyones interest to cut some one out of the action so they wipe the pieces off the board. Everone gets a slice of the pie, its never big enough but it keeps the players from wiping the pieces off the board.
While NATO is pocking at Russia... in Georgia...
http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=26149
NATO, Georgian Defense Ministers Meeting
NATO Defence Ministers met with their Georgian counterpart Irakli Alasania in frames of NATO-Georgia Commission in Brussels on 5 June to discuss Georgia’s reform plans and further cooperation.
“And I look forward to a future in which Georgia is in the Alliance. The decisions taken at the NATO Summit in Bucharest still stand. Georgia will become a member of NATO provided it meets the requirements for membership,” he added.
Asked about so called ‘borderisation’ process by the Russian troops across breakaway South Ossetia’s administrative boundary line, Rasmussen said that installation of wire fences was “a violation of international law” and of 2008 ceasefire agreements.
“Building fences impedes freedom of movement, it can further inflame tensions, it is simply not acceptable,” the NATO Secretary General said. “We urge Russia to live up to her international obligations.”
They want Georgia to be made a NATO member... Russia ain't too keen about that...
http://en.rian.ru/world/20111208/169485481.html
Russia says Georgia's entry to NATO could lead to war
Russia’s foreign minister has warned of a repetition of its 2008 war with Georgia if the South Caucasus state joins NATO.
The funniest about all this crap... the bigger danger to US national security is Mexico and the crazy drug cartels on the border...with the border wide open, yet nobody gives a fuck... but eh... they will fondle you and your daughter at the airport... for freedomz and securityz!
I WANT OFF THIS PLANET.
Give it a few years, you'll get your wish.
That's a generous timeline, given the buildup going on right now between the Black & Caspian Seas, whilst everyone is focused on the left hand's masturbation at the east end of the Med... The immediate theater is a square of 1000 miles, not 1000 square miles...
Be careful about what you wish for...
Yah know opinions are like assholes...
In my opinion WWIII would be much more likely to start over Georgia than Syria. Removing both from Russian influence in the same time period would increase the risk of WWIII substantially. Russia at least understands why NATO wants Syria/Iran, Georgia is just plain spiteful.
"I WANT OFF THIS PLANET."
These are the golden times. Enjoy them while they last. Buy depends and lay a big log in them prior to TSA then clean up prior to the flight. Have fun with this! You cant be jailed for a medical condition, or wait, mm they just made pooping your pants illegal via executive order.
There's a coalition of the willing here... http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-foreign-fighters-are-in-syria-2013-6
This coalition is going to be along the lines of Israeli, Saudi, UAE, Qatar, USA, and "foreign fighters" etc. No doubt about it. (and don't bother pointing out Saudis? Israel??? wtf?)
Plus the coalition will likely provide further support, perhaps... ground troops as well. See who joins in on the upcoming ground war games @ Jordan.
They better do it soon though, apparently the "foreign fighters" are getting their asses kicked.
No prisoners this time around, especially John McCain. His squealling and pinpointing US strategic positions might not save anyones bacon a second time.
It's not John McCain's fault. He has completely lost his mind and is not responsible for what he does.
When exactly did he lose his mind? Before or after he started his affair with an equally ambitious opportunist -- a rich heiress -- and dumped his wife? LMAO.
+1 His actions clearly demonstrate he is sane :)
The West keeps pushing for a bigger war. It's crazy.
A scorpion will always sting you when given the chance. It does what it is.
If they want to escalate this in 2013, it will start within 2 weeks. No later. That's the window. Otherwise we can safely say that the bad scenarios all of us are playing in our heads are bullshit after all and nobody wants this to get out of hand.
That might be the Stratfor analysis, but we in this Republic are pissed off with nazionists, globalists, the Internationale.
No more war.
You want it? Pay with your blood and treasure, not ours.
Another Omama nightmare ... We didn't know what we were doing in Iraq (Bush) ... In Libya, In Egypt, In Pakistan ... then why would we even dream of becoming involved in Syria. This is absolute insanity ... we know nothing about who we would support, what we would do, what a logical outcome would be ... democracy, not a chance ... independent state, not a chance ... an Iran vassal, probably. I guess the Morons in DC ask: "Who do the Russians Support? Well support the other guy" ... except this time there are multiple other guys ... which one. This is crazy!!!
To rely upon this Administration with guns in their hands doing anything in Syria is absolute insanity.
War (for us) in the Middle East is pure insanity ... Iraq destabilized everything, Libya destabilized everything, Afghanistan destabilized everything
Well, for starters, if you haven't done so already, STOP VOTING.
Bush new exactly why he wanted to be in Iraq. The public was clueless. Read about what business his grandfather was involved in, early on. Military weapons and banking, that should connect some dots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx1nPu3k
7 countries - Gen Wesley Clark (1.40 min)
(airspace)
I just don't know how the globalists will accomplish their goals. Look what happened in Turkey - a cop sprays a woman with tear gas and the whole country rightfully goes apeshit. They need us more than we need them. They may think they can play Sim World but the odds are against that when push comes to shove....
Quite.
And that is the worry of the Bilderberg marketing group meeting in London now.
Their nazionist agenda is failing, due to their unpayable unregulated otc derivative equal to more than global gdp, and their nazionist wars are failing.
V
Someone will do something stupid, then the whole House of Cards burns down.
Good, imo.
That's a lovely Bilderberg group you got there - shame if something happened to it.
Remind me again where the physical location of Armageddon is supposed to be???
Har Megiddo.
Do I win the five pound note? The Queen's shilling?
Or do I get stuck with the fake jew Kerry, Mandelson, House of Windsor, and other AshkeNAZI.
Valley of Megiddo, more known as Palestine.
I think there are a lot of humans on this planet fed up with this kind of crap. There will be hell to pay for this round.
I've been to Washington D.C., and stood in the middle of the night out in the Jefferson Memorial and read the inscriptions of Jefferson's quotes hammered into marble. As you look up inside the Rotunda at my favorite quote at the highest point of the building, you have to turn around backwards to read it, Jefferson says; "On the altar of God I pledge my undying hostility to any government restriction on the free minds of the people." We were the first nation-state to establish the principle that sovereignty, ultimate political power, resides in the people. That's a fundamentally radical concept and these guys don't like the implications of it for their maintenance of minority wealth and power, and they're out to destroy that...but they will fail. I guarantee you they will fail miserably.
The Civil War put an end to the battle of free men against Government. We simply have no more taste for violence. Such a concept is politically and culturally incorrect. Overthrowing our Government is like the N-word, often thought but rarely spoken.
...But such opposition to democratic government has basically been in retreat since the successes of the American and French Revolutions, temporary reversals notwithstanding. Historically the ideal of democracy has become the norm, not the exception—at least in theory...
As you say : Jefferson and all that...But...
there is an ominous quote that comes to us from Plato, the man who invented the republic but manifested his dislike for democracy : "The insatiable desire for this good to the neglect of everything else may transform a democracy and lead to a demand for despotism."
So if democracy can lead to despotism, on Oligarchy rule by the same author :
"Oligarchy was established by men with a certain aim in life: the good they sought was wealth, and it was the insatiable appetite for money-making to the neglect of everything else that proved its undoing."
There we have it the two sides of the coin : oligarchy vs democracy, eternal dog fight.
I believe they know what to do to stop the terror.
I think the author's "terrible" scenario sounds hilarious and awesome, and I hope it happens SOON. The faster this abortion of a country we live in finds a way to completely fuck itself up, the better off everyone will be. Bring on the war, bring on the collapse, bring on the chaos--the shittier things get, the better it will be for resourceful individuals who might...oh, I don't know...have some scores to settle, or some acquisitions they've been eager to make. To paraphrase Willem Dafoe in "Affliction": "We can all go to hell together!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1rwmD4c_NxI#!
Your wish is their command.
Exactly! As I said, we can all go to hell together...
Distraction Economics.
Bullish on tobacco products. Everyone will start to smoke again. The end is possibly near. Who cares about cancer 20 years down the road. Lots of sex with random partners will become standard. Honey, I'd be faithful but seriously what difference does it make? I think I'm buying a sportscar tomorrow. Enjoy life and live every day like its the last day. Fighting or protesting it won't stop the bastards. They're in charge. They pulled off 9/11 and the market crash and bailouts. They got away with it all. Ain't nothing stopping these guys unless a guerilla force stormed 1600 Penn and took over government. Fat chance of that happening.
See you on the other side!
Let's be serious that streak of piss John Kerry couldn't tie his own shoelaces and look who appointed him!
Who would you rather square up to JK or the Russian FM?
OballsUp or Putin?
The most evil fuckers in All of this is that Fat Stinking Monarchy from Saudi who are the Real Scum and i would like that fat ugly stinking fucker to get Saddam's treatment.
Have a nice day y'all.
Mr. Kerry, you are like a stream of bat's piss.
What?
I merely meant, Sir, that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.
Oh, thankyou!
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I saw Condi Rice talking about this on TV. The interviewer asked "What's at stake?" Condi all-knowingly replied "The middle east as we know it. That is why we must intervene". Frankly the middle east as we know it ain't so great, so why must we intervene?
That anyone still talks or listens to that neo-con cunt is beyond me.
Does Condi have children? If so, let's send them to war with GoPros riveted to their heads so we can watch them be slaughtered in real time. They treat our children like fucking pawns. God damn them all!
"The middle east as we know it". That is correct, but this is more about the Sunnis and Shiites. The US/EU are in bed with Saudi Arabia and the Sunnis and the Shiites (Iran, Syria, etc.) are teaming up with Russia and maybe China. They are choosing sides in the far east as well. Worst case is the world economy tanks so bad that social unrest gets out of control and a "REAL" war is TPTB get out of jail card.
Gordon Duff, at Veterans Today, says Syria sank an Israeli dolphin Class sub with nukes on 5/2/13, and the Israeli attack near Damascus 5/4-5/5/13 was retaliation, and included a nuke.
Putin called Obama and said Israel would be nuked if they tossed off another cracker, and Obama said, "leave me out of it".
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/03/1st-super-governmental-world-war...
http://www.syrianews.cc/syrianews-exclusive-syrian-navy-destroys-israeli...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/25/did-syria-sink-an-israeli-submar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP1Za-xu8r0
If Israel had used a nuke surely Syria, Russia & China would have been shouting about it to the rooftops?
Seems unlikely.
If Israel had used a nuclear device it would not be there any longer. Don't you think such think are monitored by satellite ? Don't you think Iran and North Korea would be working flat out ? Don't you think Japan would be worried about Chinese intentions ?
Israel is a tiny little country 8500 sq. miles about the size of El Salvador......it would face obliteration if it ever used nuclear weapons
Duff maybe jumped shark with this one.
Clearly who wrote this article has no clue about Middle East and what is a real civil war.
interesting article, though I have some small comprehension issues with this: "If we cannot maintain our vigilance and allow ourselves to be sucked into the proxy war façade, the elites will get their global conflict with little to no home opposition. The globalists will win, and everyone else will lose."
why does the author use the word "globalist" when the old word "imperialist" would be imho so much more precise? of what kind of "vigilance" is the author talking about anyway? the one that prevented the engagement in direct war in Iraq and Afghanistan?
as I repeated elsewhere, the use of "globalist" smacks of propaganda. it's a very badly understood and defined word used mostly in the US. most of the world complains about globalization, and it's not the same thing
anti-globalism smacks of "please keep the free global trade open, but please without military intervention" - nice, but is it feasible? seriously?
: "why does the author use the word "globalist" "
Alex Jones has caused me to hate that word. "Globalist" means "boogieman".
not only this, it also does not specify if it's about the "one world government" supporters (like some Australians and interestingly many "Commonwealth Loyalists") that are against the nation-state as such or it's about the "internationalists" (like some europeans, often from the Left) who support the nation-state as such but want to complement it with international organizations - note the intersection of interests in both groups who otherwise often hate each other when it comes to support to the UN (which reminds me that the UN org has a completely different "flair" in the US, compared to the rest of the world)
it's also very vague about how global markets are supposed to be structured, or what the role of the US should be in it
all in all, it just tries to give a fancy word to "Them", aka "The Elites" - what a friend of mine very nastily calls "part of the syllabus of the bleating of the sheep"
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back to the article: Syria is a client state of Russia, and this is not since yesterday. what is new is that China supports this, mostly because of Iran. what the author does not touch is: is this to be recognized or not? it appears that our beloved Imperialists don't want to. going head on directly "is not done", and so a proxy war it has to be
nothing new under the sun: imperialism, spheres of influence and proxy-wars
Also once known as the GREAT GAME!
This is basically it. The Russians are in Syria and are going to stay there, no matter who ends up on the throne, Sunni vs. Shia makes no difference.
Gazprom wants to rule the ME for the next 5 generations, preferably with partners and non violence (more than likely), but will get down and dirty if they are pushed.
BTU's = gold = power.
No different than the US.
Anyone who thinks they will pack up and leave has got rocks in their head.
Not really Gazprom but it does have a big problem now E.ON is sourcing LNG from Canada. Clearly there is an EU policy of diversifying gas supplies away from Gazprom but look at Britain which has no storage facilities and is so dependent on gas for electricity and heating. Dependence on Qatar is hardly better than Russia, and that is why Britain is going to deposit military equipment and soldiers in The Gulf AGAIN to protect gas supplies.
Not the cleverest strategy for a nation with the smallest Army since Waterloo and a 29-ship Navy
The elites call themselves "globalists", not "imperialists". The two words mean essentially the same thing though. Don't get so caught up in semantics and wordplay that you lose track of the reality of the situation.
a profoundly US American view, imho, which reflects the use of the word
Except that "globalists" from around the world refer to themselves as such. Smith is simply using the word THEY use to describe themselves. If you don't like the usage of the word, then why don't you go complain to the Bilderbergers?
do Bilderbergers describe themselves as globalists? and this without making the distinction between the old and the new Bilderbergers
btw, the old group was all about containing the Soviets, expanding NATO and making arms deals on the side - including Tatcher and Reagan
See the NWO what it really is - New British Empire
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2013/4022gl-st_cripple_br_emp.html
The personalities change but the principle of Private-Access-Public-Money still stands. The Sykes-Picot agreement like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact were to re-order nations; Bilderbergers simply forget nations and treat them as markets to be exploited.
Christopher Lasch: "Revolt of the Elites" is simply sublime when read together with Amy Chua "World On Fire"
I agree with you about the meanings of words. When people rant against globalisation, I often ask them whether it means I won't be able to buy bananas in London any more. It's a very ill-defined term which means different things to different people.
On Brandon's essay, I think we can take it that his use of globalists is equal to imperialists, as you and several other commenters have posted. Of course, imperialism for most of our lives has really meant US Pax Americana. We are seeing a rejection of that rising around the world. And there has never been an empire in history which has not gone down fighting one way or the other.
If Brandon's views are accurate, it suggests that the US is now embarking on a new (proxy) war in Syria to uphold its global dominance which has suffered severe damage since 2007-8 following the financial crash and Bernanke's seriously mad response. This will involve, Russia, China, Iran and others -vs- the US, Israel, UK, France et al.
And as many have pointed out over the months, the US Dept of Fatherland Security is preparing for some sort of internal clampdown by its procurement of large numbers of weapons/ammo, heavy armoured vehicles et al. Whether it is expecting civil unrest to be a bi-product of this new Syrian proxy war or triggered by some other event, who knows.
smacker, it's always nice to see that people with such different avatars can agree on points
the anti-globalization protesters I know and sometimes talk to would reply: "no, you can have your bananas in London, but with a higher price" - by which they usually mean export duties for the exporting country and of course higher salaries for the banana plantation workers
this very interesting and increasingly vocal group of "Commonwealth Loyalists", for example, are usually very strongly against all kind of import/export duties, i.e. anti-tariffs, i.e. "pro free global markets". and of course strongly about "freeing Britain from the clutches of the evil EU"
my problem about that is that it is up to Britain to go it's own way - but does Britain want this? I presume we'll have to wait and see. Anyway, a heartfelt good luck with your endeavour
my take of the US Dept's spending spree is that it reminds me when thirty years ago they calculated that the Pentagon had enough camouflage covers for helmets for the next 500 years - the solution to that was to commission new helmets (the now famous "Fritz", to which the old camouflage covers of course don't fit. a way to spend other people's money. at least, I hope so, this time (too)
Well, on bananas, here's a piece of useless information ...for many years since WWII the varieties available in the UK were mainly sourced from the Caribbean (due to Britain's old colonial ties). The particular plant varieties grown in those island nations - short plants able to withstand strong winds - did not produce the best bananas and didn't travel well on banana boats. They fell to pieces soon after purchase.
The EU changed all that. We now have bananas in the UK sourced from South America ...Colombia, Brazil, Ecuador etc. These bananas are far superior and even after long journeys remain edible and retain a better flavour! I don't know what's happened to the Caribbean banana industry.
On free market trade ...surely if (say) Brazil or Colombia freely agree to supply bananas to EU member states at whatever price is agreed, that is their choice. No? If they didn't make a profit from that trade, they'd either raise the price or cancel the contract. In fact I believe the banana growers in Brazil who export to the EU, have special plantations for export. Meaning, they are not the same bananas grown for domestic consumption as they have to be 1st quality, washed and packed before shipment, whereas domestic bananas are often 2nd quality and unwashed.
The drive for higher wages to plantation workers must come from within their own countries, not thru some sort of sleazy deal with EU trade negotiators who think they know better and want to interfere. That would amount to colonialism, not anti-globalisation.
Just my opinions...
You must like Carl Lindner then ! He paid Clinton so much money to push the Banana wars on the EU for the Dollar Bananas in Central America and break the Lome Convention. France too brought in bananas from Africa as Britain did from the Windward Islands.
Fact is these bananas ripened with ethylene and packed under supermarket fluorescent lights end up going grey so quickly and don't last long before going to mush
The largest per capita consumption of bananas is Germany; however Britain is a very expensive place for bananas. I don't know if you saw the OECD Report Ghordius, but Britain has had the highest food and enegy price inflation in the OECD, and not simply because of the Devakuation but because of high concentration of food retailing in 4 oligopolies.
Just compare the quality of fresh produce in a British supermarket - to that available in a French or German market....then the prices.....and you see how much diesel cost input trucking produce from Spain to Britain adds to the price and delivery chain
"If Brandon's views are accurate, it suggests that the US is now embarking on a new (proxy) war in Syria to uphold its global dominance which has suffered severe damage since 2007-8 following the financial crash and Bernanke's seriously mad response."
But how could this possibly be a surprise to you, or Brandon, or a tapeworm, or anyone else with 1/64th of a brain? Jesus christ! This is what the United States DOES, so why would anyone be surprised that they're DOING it? This faux-intelligent cocktail-party bullshit is fucking annoying--why don't you tell us something we DON'T know?
"why don't you tell us something we DON'T know"
OK, try this:
There is no shortage of people who claim to know everything but rarely do they produce evidence. I was merely commenting that Brandon's views may be right.....ignore them if you wish :-)
"I was merely commenting that Brandon's views may be right"
And I was merely commenting that Brandon's views are OBVIOUS.
Nope. You referred to MY comments, not Brandon's. Go check.
And I don't think the agenda is obvious as you claim. Syria is clearly a complicated gameplan.
I know there are countless numbers of people who claim to know exactly what the agendas are of their political leaders. Sometimes they're right, other times they're not. Looking for important markers and joining the dots is where the skill comes in - and that is what Brandon was trying to do - but even that doesn't always produce the right explanation.
Like I said elsewhere, if you consider yourself to be an undisputed expert on US foreign policy/military agendas, write some detailed articles and let's read them.
Three Things You Should Know:
1) USSA & Its Minions is now THE Global Rogue State
2) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap - Gal 6:7
3) There will be Hell To Pay. YOU will do the paying.
Why do we want to bring "democracy" to anyone? We're not a democracy. We're a constitutional republic founded on the principle of individual rights. "Democracy" brought the world Hitler, Mussolini, a number of terrorist regimes in the Middle East, the Kirchners in Argentina, and Chavez in Venezuela, among others.
And what's wrong with fighting wars "for profit"? If we don't profit from the wars we enter, why enter them? (Donald Trump was not all wrong.)
Vietnam was a stupid war fought to "stop communism." But the fact that some bankers may have profited from it does not mean that its support by Americans was for the bankers' benefit.
Why should we get involved in Syria? Is it in our national self-interest to do so? To hell with (most of) the people there. They hate our guts. Most of them deserve the dictators they have. Let Assad and al Qaeda destroy each other.
If we are going to go to war, it should be against Iran, which WOULD be in our national self-interest.
After which we can pay for it with oil taken as reparations.
> If we are going to go to war, it should be against Iran
Agreeing with you until you went neocon. Nice try JIDF
Why would the US want to fight a nation of 77 million ? It is a bit big for the USA which prefers to pick on the smaller ones and then gets bogged down like in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and looks for a fig-leaf to cover the rout.
Iran is simply too big for the US to dare, especially with China as an Iranian ally and Pakistan as a neighbour.
Be simpler for the US simply to walk away and let Israel stand on its own two feet and take on Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran and Egypt.........see how they do
sandy me mann, there are no wars they are police actions some with UN approval..USA has NOT fought wars per no war resolution in congress..so the USA tiger is castrated hands tied actions limited..so victory is never possible but money flows to the 0..1%..from a vet who saw it first hand.
The USA will fight Asad, Hezbolla, Iran and Russia (Syrian naval base) until the last Turkish soldier.
Israel can only be a "side dish" in this meal.
Tens of Millions will die from this war, until now we saw only the first blood.
I'm more worried about what happens here in America. A man from Homeland Security was across the street and asked me if there were any KKK meetings in the area. I asked him "how would I know?" This stuff is real. FEMA camps, gun restrictions, unwarranted search and seizures, martial law, property confiscation, etc. The Talmudic Sorcerers will have their way. What we will experience will be worse than what the Russian people experienced under Stalin.
Looks like you have been trained in the art of responding.
Any other answer like a Yes, No or Maybe would have meant you would not be posting now.
Welcome to the New World Order in the US of A
After our defeat in Vietnam, our government set forth on a program of private warfare. The "School of the Americas" was formed, also known as the School of Assassins, in Fort Benning, Georgia. The combat academy churned out some of the most unstable monsters in third world politics. ...
In a way this statement is only partially right; it got more systemic, the school of assassins; as in Operation Condor in South America and Pinochet's Chile. No doubt about that. Dear Henry saw to that.
But...in fact the genesis of the school of assassins was in Fort Bragg in the early 60s, all based on the experience gained by this criminal torturer who planned and participated in the Battle of Algiers in 1957. His blue print was cut and pasted by the CIa and formented the assassination squads of Operation Phoenix in Saigon during the Vietnam War.
http://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/saluer-un-homme-sans-honneu...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
General Aussasseres, Bigeard's hit man in Algiers death squads, who lectured in Fort Bragg and subsequently participated in Operation Condor in Brasil, was a true Templar of old and ethnic cleanser tradition for french imperial glory.
The CIA learned fast that's for sure, once it put on those old clothes for "dominus and mercator" infamy of imperial Pax Americana.
The West is broke
The economies are in shambles
The unemployed and disgruntled are increasing in number each day.
It's time for the diversion- The call of "duty".
Put your ass on the line as a Patriot.
Or. end up in a FEMA camp
All Americans- 18 to 60 , please be ready to be drafted.
Uncle Sam wants YOU.
Uncle Cameron,Uncle Hollande and Aunty Merkel want YOU in Europe.
Muslim immigrants will lead front the front to prove they are patriotic towards their new countries.
I'm already to old to be put on the draft registration list by law. And I aint even 60.
My impression is that the reason for Lyndon B. Johnson´s decision to get more and openly involved in the Vietnam conflict at least partially was the result of an ambition not to stand out as soft on communists or “pink” to the electorate, especially to the white electorate in the Southern States, due to anti-segregation laws that were enacted almost simultaneously and the “war on poverty” which increased public spending.
The Tonkin incident (August 2, 1964) occurred shortly after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson in (July 2, 1964).
The war on poverty was launched by Lyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964. Much of the legislation was signed into law in July and August 1964.
I'm not sure this Syria proxy war "is all about Israel" as some suggest or imply.
It seems to me it's more about The West retaining its global dominance and the USD in particular. In this respect, Israel is only one of the bit-players, as is the UK, France and numerous Gulf autocracies. Assad is just the guy who's standing in the way and his sandpit is a convenient battleground. His friendship with Russia, China & Iran are unfortunate for him.
Then there's the issue of the Quatari gas pipeline running thru Syria, which hasn't been mentioned.
Like any conflict, there's never a single issue to be resolved ...there's always a list of them.
Of course there is a whole list of issues, because war is a racket, and this one is no different.
There's rarely any "Of course" about it.
Most people see events like war as being simplistically triggered by a single issue, perhaps two. It is rarely that simple. When contemplating war, the list will include lots of pros & cons. Thus, if Syria is really about the US retaining its global dominance in USD and M/E energy control, you can bet the State Dept and Pentagon planners are hard at it drafting countless scenarios and supporting actions.
Essentially, that is what Brandon is attempting to set out in his excellent essay.
"Thus, if Syria is really about the US retaining its global dominance in USD and M/E energy control, you can bet the State Dept and Pentagon planners are hard at it drafting countless scenarios and supporting actions."
Well, yeah...NO SHIT. So what's your point? Are we supposed to be impressed by our heroic planners in the State Department and the Pentagon? LOL... Guess what? We don't care what the cool guys in the State Department and the Pentagon are up to, because we HATE THEM. And we want to HANG THEM. Get it?
You're obviously doing the wrong job. Why don't you get a job writing essays and op-eds articulating EXACTLY what US foreign/military policy is? Don't forget the minute detail. I'm sure the world would love to know! HAND :-)
The world already knows, dumbass--that's the whole POINT.
Then I'm sure you'll want to be the first to set it all out in great detail...
I give you the floor.................................................over to you........................
Every player has it's own agenda. Some are obvious, probably most are hidden.
We're like the blind men describing the elephant from the part we are touching. (the Bildy's forgot my invite)
I think we'll have a good idea what will happen tomorrow sometime within the next 5 years.
This fiat money bullshit is the cause of all our imperial disasters; remember - if you're broke, you stay home.............
"To realize their fantasies of world domination, the neocons resorted to a triple discourse, as Laurent Guyénot shows in this study, i.e. a cynical political philosophy developed by their mentor Leo Strauss for domestic consumption; a cold analysis of Israeli strategic interests for the benefit of the leaders in Tel Aviv, and a fear-mongering warning against imaginary dangers besetting U.S. public opinion."
- http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Syria is incredibly tough to get a handle on. But I know that the cabal of mostly Jewish neocons who fabricated evidence to get us into Iraq, and now want us to topple Assad, then Iran, and don't like Putin because Putin went after the mostly Jewish oligarchs who appropriated Russian mineral and fossil assets under Yeltsin, are still around. They set up organizations purporting to foster Chechen democracy (aided terrorists to destabilize Russia) and have continued to spy for Israel and very likely Turkey.
They are absolutely not the entirety of the problem, but they are a large part of it. A Zionist 5th column which loyal elements in the CIA and FBI have been prevented from investigating.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/02/16/obama-administration%E2%80%99...
As to why Jewish neocons would work so closely with the Turks... it might be helpful to research the Young Turks a little - particularly the Donmè - there's definitely a lot of bad/racist/clueless websites on the topic but as with the Bolsheviks, there apparently was massive, massive over-representation of Jews in a revolutionary movement, in a nation where they were well under 3% of the country.
http://www.greece.org/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=...
It may be that Turkey has its own Zionist (by which I mean right wing, rabidly pro-Irael and pro-Greater Israel, not 'Jews') 5th column.
There really just seems to be something to this idea of a global Zionist conspiracy, even if implicit and due to a competing loyalty to the state of Israel which has been 'under threat' since founding because it was born, of course, in terror and ethnic cleansing - not just the noble, romantic, and largely mythic ideology o f long and horribly persecuted Eastern European Jews.
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/oct2008/russian-jewish-oligarchs.html
Not just in Russia; 48% US billionaires are also Jewish. Whether that gives them special influence in a country as democratic and built around "the little guy" as the US so clearly is, is a matter for conjecture.....
The US has already lost the war in Syria.
Hmmm - I really don't think that the US & Israel will be engaging the way that it is laid out here, as they have nothing to gain.
History does not repeat itself, but it is a self-similar process. So to me the war in Syria has more in common with Germany in 1618 than with Vietnam in 1962.
This is mainly Shiites/Alawites fighting Sunnis and the West should try to stay out of it.
I am religious, and this IS Biblical. Get familiar with The Revelation -- looks like it's going down soon. We could be wrong, but it sure seems more likely now than other predictions of the past. But then again, "no one knows the day or the hour"
'This is without a doubt the dumbfest'd article on geo-political prognostic's anal-y-sis that this nostrum-proctologist B. Smith could pull out of his shiny narcissistic flaccid ass, Period!!!
'k[no]w cassandra R u'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airT-m9LcoY
Abbot and Costello - "Who's on First?"
it wouldn't shock me at all to learn that Assad and Ahmadinejad are paid agents of the Bankster Oligarchy
Just like Gadaffi, Hussein, Assad, the Bush dynasty think they can replace the local bullies with minimal effort, and put another pro-American puppet in place.
They always turn a blind eye to the fact that these dictatorship/military regimes -whether you like them or not- are tolerated by their people because the alternative factional chaos would be worse.
What I do not understand (unless Netenyahu is actually an idiot) why Israel thinks a volatile Syria on their borders is a good thing. Hamas are not a threat, Iran was not a threat, Tehran getting the bomb is no big deal, they could have had one in a suitcase 20 years ago.
Don't expect any joined up thinking from the State Dept or the CIA, they have never worked out a masterplan. If anyone believes they had, they would have surely developed competent surrogates ready to take over.