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Greece Slides Into The "Fourth World" - The Full Photo Album

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With Greek government bonds at multi-year highs (up 300% in the last year), the Athens Stock Index still up 100% in the last year, and leaders all over the Euro-zone proclaiming the crisis is over (and that Greece has "made big strides"); we thought it perhaps useful to look at the reality behind the propagandized talk and manipulation. The sad truth is Greece is rapidly dissolving into a 'fourth world' nation with unemployment rates (broad and youth) at unprecedented levels, poverty widespread, and homelessness rife. Perhaps, as Germany today stated that there will be no more debt reduction for Greece, it is 'math' in the first image that the TROIKA and the Greek representatives should pay special attention to...

 

40-year-old Yiorgos, who became homeless in 2010 after his grocery shop went out of business, sleeps outdoors in central Athens February 3, 2013.

 

42-year-old Alexandros, from Serres in northern Greece, sits in the abandoned car he lives in, at the port of Piareus near Athens April 10, 2013. Alexandros owned a plant shop in Athens until 2010, when it was forced to close, he became homeless soon after.

 

Homeless people sleep outdoors in central Athens April 14, 2013.

 

A homeless scrap collector sleeps outside in central Athens May 26, 2013.

 

Stephanos became homeless in late 2012 when the clothes shop, where he had worked for over a decade, closed down and he had no income to pay for his flat. He now lives next to a church in central Athens and eats in soup kitchens. Stephanos smokes a cigarette as he sits on a rug in central Athens May 16, 2013.

 

36-year-old unemployed clerk Michael sits in the sun near a bridge in central Athens May 24, 2013. Michael worked as a hotel clerk for over fifteen years but when the hotel closed he was unable to find work and in late 2011 became homeless, two months later he was diagnosed with lymph node and thyroid cancer. He now lives outside a church.

 

51-year-old Romanian truck driver Adrian, who lost his job in 2010 when the lorry company he was working for closed down, sits with his head in his hands in central Athens January 18, 2013. Adrian survives by collecting scrap and lives in an abandoned warehouse in Athens central vegetable market.

 

50-year-old Giorgos sits with his belongings under a bridge, where he lives with a group of other homeless people, in central Athens May 25, 2013. Giorgos was forced to close down the billiard hall he owned in 2006, and spent time in prison for not paying his social security debts.

 

35-year-old Vassilis, who has been treated for severe physiological issues, sits in the afternoon sun under the bridge where he has lived for the last year and half in central Athens May 25, 2013.

 

58-year-old Matheos stands next to the makeshift shelter where he has lived since late 2011, on a hill in central Athens January 23, 2013.

 

56-year-old Boris Potev, a Bulgarian immigrant, lies on a mattress amid garbage in an Athens suburb April 9, 2013.

 

Michael, a 36-year-old unemployed man, poses by an abandoned open-air cinema in central Athens February 8, 2013. Michael worked as a hotel clerk for over fifteen years but when the hotel closed he was unable to find work and in late 2011 became homeless. Two months later he was diagnosed with lymph node and thyroid cancer. He now lives outside a church.

 

Marialena, a former drug addict who is on a methadone rehabilitation program, pushes away her boyfriend Dimitrios who is trying to clean up her self-inflicted wounds, under a bridge in central Athens May 15, 2013.

 

42-year-old Marialena, a homeless AIDS sufferer and former drug addict who is on a methadone rehabilitation program, drinks coffee after waking up next to her boyfriend Dimitrios in central Athens May 26, 2013. Dimitrios, 51, was a dancer in a famous Greek folk dancing troupe until he lost his job three years ago and became homeless.

 

Source: Reuters

 

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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:36 | 3631589 localsavage
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Thanks...Bilberberg.  Sleep tight on your silk sheets,you earned it.../sarc

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:47 | 3631600 Big Slick
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Interesting, the ubiquitous American-references on the clothing of the Greek homeless.  USA hats, Venice Beach T-shirts, Bernanke underwear (whoops, those were just skid marks)

[BTW according to ZH in the first 15 minutes this story has gotten over 1300 reads.   That's intersting to me]

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:52 | 3631615 ACP
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Behold! The ultimate outcome of Socialism!

Or what happens when you assume the government will take care of you, and then suddenly, it doesn't.

 

Best said at the end of The Usual Suspects:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJqKOb0ZhY

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:01 | 3631643 azzhatter
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I will never be satisfied until I see Barosso and Von Rumpuy hanging from a lamp post

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:13 | 3631676 max2205
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Looks like LA

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:24 | 3631706 jbvtme
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wonder if blackstone is buying greek fixer uppers?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:35 | 3631718 ACP
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Speaking of Greek real estate, you can get an ocean view house dirt cheap. Check some of these out...

EUR 154k for this:

http://www.hellenic-realty.com/real-estate-greece-apartment-SYR048.html

Even better properties:

http://www.ktimatoemporiki.gr/

(at the bottom of the page in the second link, there is a Greek ISLAND for sale - 119 acres)

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:59 | 3631827 CheapBastard
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anything on Lesbos?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:07 | 3631865 ACP
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No, but there's a small spot on Clitoris.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:16 | 3631895 booboo
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is that near Taintopolis?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:14 | 3632143 AldousHuxley
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plant shop owner ==> get a real job

clothes shop owner ===> get a real job

hotel clerk ===> get a real job

truck driver ===> get a real job

billiard hall owner ===> get a real job

drug addict with self-inflicted wounds ===> can't even suicide right

old dancer ===> get a real job

 

what did these people expect? this has nothing to do with greece but personal choices to not get a real job.

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:25 | 3632179 LetThemEatRand
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Yep, let those (former) business owners eat Rand.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:01 | 3632471 Calmyourself
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The important thing is they leave nothing for their heirs, your employees unionize yet?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:38 | 3632566 LetThemEatRand
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Forbes 10 wealthiest women.  http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2013/03/04/the-worlds-richest-women-203/.  "The second richest woman is Christy Walton of the U.S., who inherited her husband John Walton’s stake in Wal-Mart when he died in a plane crash in 2005. She clocks in at $28.2 billion — up nearly $3 billion from a year ago due to an increase in the price of Wal-Mart stock."  The productive "class."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:57 | 3632765 James_Cole
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I was reading Jaron Lanier the other day and he was talking about jobs being a social construct and he's entirely right. It's a good way to look at it.

In the past slavery was seen as a-ok, now in the western world not so much. Let's keep it that way. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:54 | 3632225 Lore
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No offense, but your point is shamefully cold blooded and ignorant.  THERE IS NO WORK.  THERE IS NOTHING. 

And this seems like a good time to remind readers that there is no difference between the vignettes presented above and what we see in tent cities popping up and expanding all across America.  MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SKILLED TRADES AND PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION. 

Homeless 1000 tent city in LA

Big one tripled in size in Jersey 

List of tent cities in United States

"Regular, middle class Americans, many of whom lived from paycheque to paycheque, down on their luck when they lost their job..."

"THERE, BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD, GO I..."(Proverb att. John Bradford)

"Behold! The ultimate outcome of Socialism!"  <-- WRONG. BEHOLD THE HANDIWORK OF CENTRAL BANKERS WHO PLAY GOD WITH MARKETS.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:06 | 3632487 Calmyourself
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"Behold! The ultimate outcome of Socialism!"  <-- WRONG. BEHOLD THE HANDIWORK OF CENTRAL BANKERS WHO PLAY GOD WITH MARKETS.

BS, not exclusive in any way, both scenarios end the same, elites in charge of your every breath, I won't have it..

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:34 | 3632552 macholatte
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elites in charge of your every breath,

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

It's that "Well Regulated Militia" part that keeps getting ignored. That's the necessary part. That's the scary part for the establishment, and one of these days ........

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:59 | 3632598 Henry Hub
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***and one of these days ........***

Well I wouldn't hold hold your breath my friend. It looks like it's going to be a long, long wait in this county

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:46 | 3632825 NidStyles
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I don't see you organizing anything.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:50 | 3632856 Bearwagon
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Well, if I remember correctly, he broke a window lately, thereby providing "growth" to the economy! What have you done?  ;-)

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 09:00 | 3633224 Henry Hub
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***I don't see you organizing anything.***

That's because I haven't, and I don't intend to. Leading anything is a suicide mission in this country. The government is just waiting to bag the leaders. No, the police state is here and now, sad to say.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:21 | 3632628 Never One Roach
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I recently visted my cousin in Austin and was shocked by the number of homeless on the hwy crossways. The city is tyring to move them out to "the country" because "they bother people downtown." Crime there at night is so bad the urbanites claim they are afraid to go out  at night. Used to be a nice place...a collge town. No more.

 

"progress" & "growth"....have mixed consequences.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:39 | 3632753 tenpanhandle
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so do hope and change.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:56 | 3632593 Dave Thomas
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All of those folks in that laundry list created something more than your average tax office clerk who sits on their fat ass and does their shitty job badly all day at being a parasite.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:30 | 3632748 cornflakesdisease
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You're a real humanitarian.  You should move over to kitco, their equally as heartless over there.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 03:39 | 3632787 MythicalFish
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Real job as in stockbroker, HFT jockey, NY Fed trader/analyst, condo flipper, Python programmer, tax collector? Yeah right, move into the 21st century Greece goddamnit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:26 | 3632814 stacking12321
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WTF?

why do you lump python programmer in with those undesireables?

you're into perl, i take it...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:26 | 3632843 NoClueSneaker
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They all applied for the job at Goldman Sux, have been denied while human beings.

... and fuck you ...

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:06 | 3632865 tabasco71
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I agree.  The people on this list undoubtedly are unfortunate, but if I take a stroll around London this afternoon, I'm sure I can provide a a dozen or so pictures and accompanying stories of misfortune and equal poverty/bleak prospects.

These listed examples have a very loose connection to the Greece crisis and the capitalist system.

I thought this was a 'guest post' when I read it, so I'm disappointed that ZH is publishing something this weak.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 07:37 | 3632972 fiddy pence haf...
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Aldous. Pick your own fucking flowers. While you're at it, knit your own fuckin clothes.

Get your own billiard table. source your own Chinese products, and for god sakes

don't go to Vegas.

How far you have fallen. I used to read your comments.

I hope you're hung over and forgot how to deliver irony

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:44 | 3633156 JungleJim
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Gets lapped up as soon as it hits the market ...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:13 | 3631883 Scro
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Why would anyone choose to live in an apartment.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:16 | 3632151 AldousHuxley
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weather is too nice to spend your life inside a prison and TV signals are bad in the  isles?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 07:01 | 3632912 pine_marten
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Or perhaps the Hillcrest area of San Diego........

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:34 | 3631989 kchrisc
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How about heads in a basket?!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:16 | 3631652 Pure Evil
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I don't get it. Wasn't the EU supposed to provide for the free movement of people within the Eurosphere.

Here's my suggestion. Move to Germany and start displacing the Turks as welfare recipients.

Same as in the US, our southern neighbors coming north to become new US government handout dependents, (or, unregistered Democrats)

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 10:15 | 3641966 molecool
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Same reason homeless are moving to Santa Monica and not Wisconsin - Germany is a very cold country and being homeless there (social services or not) is rather painful.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:26 | 3631712 Peter Pan
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Your own government can't take care of you, but thank God foreign governments step in to fill the void. (sarc)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:05 | 3631852 Crtrvlt
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Or fascism when the sole purpose of the Greek "bailout" was to keep the banks afloat and to hell with everything else.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:32 | 3632402 tango
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Behold! The ultimate outcome of Socialism!

ACP,  What's really pathetic is that apparently the populace has forgotten its ancient practice of agriculture and feeding itself.  Greece is a small nation with rich farmland surrounded by plentiful oceans.  At one time it did feed itself and rather cheaply.  We cancelled our trip this year when we got word that things were so much worse than what was being reported - gangs, violence, kidnapping, looting, destruction...just so pitiful. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:07 | 3632606 ACP
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Pathetic, isn't it?

There is an old term applied to Russians also: "Russians make the best horse traders."

It's now: "Russians (and other Central Europeans) make the best internet thieves."

Why? After decades of Communism, the most prevalent skill is how to "game" the system.

 

Luckily, there are lots of Greeks and Russians who are good, ethical people, so eventually (hopefully) things will turn out for the better, but not without significant pain.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:17 | 3632876 Its_the_economy...
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It's interesting, this use of the word "pain". I see it over and over again. And I wonder at what writers are thinking when they use it. Despite the images it may conjure, more appropriate words might be "endless suffering, and death."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 03:09 | 3632774 Telemakhos
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Umm, actually, no.  Greece is a rocky, stubborn climate that historically yielded little except colonists who could be sent to the Black Sea and Sicily to produce wheat and merchants who could buy more from Egypt.  Athens was, despite its olive crops, agriculturally poor, and little of Greece was really self-sustaining once the population got above bronze-age levels.  If you read ancient Greek (or English translations thereof), you'll find constant references to the land's inability to support the population.  Check out fragment 3 of the Cypria, an epic poem about the Trojan war (in translation, since I doubt many ZHers read Greek):

There was a time when the countless tribes of men, though wide-dispersed, oppressed the surface of the deep-bosomed earth, and Zeus saw it and had pity and in his wise heart resolved to relieve the all-nurturing earth of men by causing the great struggle of the Ilian war, that the load of death might empty the world. And so the heroes were slain in Troy, and the plan of Zeus came to pass.

In later (classical) times, it was naval power that fed the Athenians, either by commerce or by conquest. Power brings food. Most nations today don't have the food security to feed themselves without imports; Greece is no different, except that they're also broke, never bothered to invest in much industry, and so won't have much to trade for food unless the rest of Europe pays for them to eat.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 03:27 | 3632779 Harbanger
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Maybe it's the result of global warming.  Or maybe it's because they're not fit to shine their ancestors shoes.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:50 | 3632826 NidStyles
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Probably the later, because the former is bullshit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:52 | 3632857 Bearwagon
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Would you mind to tell that to the melting glaciers?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 11:06 | 3633719 Tom of the Missouri
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Yesterday news.  European lowest spring temps in 50 years, caused by globabal warning I suppose. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 07:34 | 3632966 fiddy pence haf...
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did you happen to miss the job titles under the photos. It's not

like they've been living off gov money.

Is that not good enough for ya?

See Aldous below, and what he thinks of those jobs.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:28 | 3632381 Buck Johnson
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What hit me even more is the age of  the people, where most should be in the prime of there career/money making abilitiy and/or close to retirement.  But all are destitute and everything is gone.  I look at this and the faces and wonder, what would happen if this was done to the US by it's own hand.  Can you imagine, it would be worse. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:54 | 3631610 prains
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Thanks Wall Street, keep your bonus nobody needs it

 

 

edit: to the wall street wank, you broke it, fix it, what you can't....why? you don't know how. thought so.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:38 | 3632703 Tsunami Wave
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Fuck you you fucking banking scum.. nothing but a bunch of swindelers, financial rapists, and cock sucking, balls gagging, cum swallowing whores. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:52 | 3631623 freewolf7
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There will be a tipping point, globally, and everything will be different.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:59 | 3631633 DanDaley
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Yes, different, but not better. Now just imagine all this in the cold northern 2/3 of the US...Obama won't need death panels.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:34 | 3631730 JuliaS
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Indeed. Different like in Egypt, different like in Argentina, different like in Russia.

I'm yet to see a revolution that actually improves the quality of life for the average person.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:40 | 3632706 Tsunami Wave
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At least the Argentines have their white, white skin and pride.  How they manage to have their egos... I don't know

And Russia.  Well if Russia survived World War 2 and the battle of Stalingrad.... they can probably survive everything.

 

And Revolution?  Well come on.. the American Revolution is a pretty good example.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:48 | 3631731 JuliaS
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The French Revolution was a prime example of one wealthy minority overthrowing another wealthy minority with the help of impovrished majority that ended up exactly where it started.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:23 | 3631941 booboo
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Give these same homeless a gun, shiney boots and a SS uniform and they will goose step anywhere and do anything the globalist send down the chain of command. Don't kid yourself...kids. Security trumps freedom everytime for the dumb sheep.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:03 | 3631650 azzhatter
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Yes there will and the hue and cry will be "have you killed a banker today?"

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:28 | 3632383 tango
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There will be a tipping point, globally, and everything will be different.

No, because you're thinking in Western terms (wealth, modernity, security). As someone who has traveled the world I can testify that this is the norm in most nations. I chuckle reading about how "awful" things are here after viewing the absolute squallor that seemed the norm in Central and South America, the Middle East, Northern Africa and Asia outside the big cities.  This is not Revolution material because it's the only life they have known.  

Greece is different, however.  The PIGS were once satisfied with a simpler lifestyle.  Then they tried to compete with the big boys, stopped having kids and began using the credit card.  It was inevitable. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:02 | 3631645 Silver Bug
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This is the plan the banksters have for all of western society.

 

http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:39 | 3632417 tango
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How can folks crawling through garbage and defacing property be the ultimate outcome of banksters?  What possible use do they have for destitute nations?  There is a truism - wealth requires capital - which is why there are millionaires in the West.  The rise of wealth in the East has created millionaires in India and China.   But in dirt poor hellholes like the nations of Africa, N Korea, Laos and most of the Middel East there are few millionaires.  If banksters need anyone it is those with wealth to fleece.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:22 | 3632501 Calmyourself
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Better to rule in hell than serve in Heaven, Milton..

This all has to end and they want to be on top..     Droit du seigneur, is  all some men need.. Oh, and all the gold and a police state and a jet and a yacht and a greek island, you get the picture..

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:16 | 3632625 Henry Hub
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***What possible use do they have for destitute nations?***

Actually the destitution is what you see after the oligarchs have looted and stripped mined a country. We can watch as this is unfolding real time in the U.S. If you are a student of history, you can sit back and watch the show. For me, I find it difficult to watch and accept this.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:31 | 3632396 GRsilverking
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i also know many other Greeks who live okay, not the way they used but are surviving. This story only points to the extreme. Sounds like nice effort in propaganda lala land

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:38 | 3631591 JJ McApe
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2014, coming in a city near you

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:44 | 3631611 THX 1178
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sooner

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:02 | 3631648 Gene Parmesan
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Which world is Detroit in?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:04 | 3631655 Pure Evil
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The Bizzaro World.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:18 | 3632158 AldousHuxley
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it is kind of like the vatican inside greece. a third world african country inside Michigan.

actually that's an insult to Africans who are actually trying to better their life.

 

You won't see any Africans immigrate to Detroit.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:09 | 3631666 Roandavid
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It's own.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:14 | 3631679 freewolf7
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Detroit will be ahead, and will teach LA and NY how to get it done.
Enjoy your gated communities.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:26 | 3631710 Al Huxley
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9th circle of hell.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3631924 Anusocracy
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Animal world.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:05 | 3631659 Strider52
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I heard one guy say that the financial world has about 4 months before it blows up. I tend to agree. Maybe 3 months?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:56 | 3631823 BringOnTheAsteroid
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I give it six months until people finally realise predicting the future is infantile.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:23 | 3631938 WTFUD
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the down arrows are from numbnuts living of bernanke's taxpayer handouts. Parasites in short who still believe they are better than you or i.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:06 | 3632307 ForTheWorld
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I gave you a down arrow because of the seemingly baseless assumptions you've made as to who is casting downvotes.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:25 | 3632367 Imminent Crucible
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I gave you a down arrow for assuming that his assumptions about downvotes are baseless. For all you know, they really were numbnuts.

Now I need someone to give me a down arrow and tell me about my assumptions about your assumptions about his assumptions. Bring it on.  I can take it.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:14 | 3632607 medium giraffe
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I'm gonna down arrow you not for making an assumption based on his assumption about the previous assumption, but for assuming someone would make an assumption based on your assumption that someone would down arrow you because you made an assumption based on a previous assumption about an assumption.  It's assumptious, and baseless, frankly.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:21 | 3632629 Henry Hub
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I gave you a down arrow for talking drivel.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:03 | 3633014 BigJim
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I give anyone talking about down arrows, a down arrow.

Ooops...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 09:23 | 3633332 Imminent Crucible
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"It's assumptious"

Assumptious is a great new word. I gave you an up arrow for that. I love it, even if your assault on my assumptiousness is, frankly, baseless. Pretty clever, for an assumptious giraffe.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:23 | 3632630 WTFUD
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i cordially accept your down vote without retort.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:32 | 3632815 stacking12321
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i cordially down-vote you for retorting, while at the same time you're claiming not to retort.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 09:06 | 3638846 Urban Redneck
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TPTB will do everything they can to get another 12 months (which will ensure only acceptable candidates are on the ballot next fall), their surrogates in the parties in power will try to stretch the reckoning past the mid-term elections.  

However, maintaining the status quo another 6 months would be very expensive, and probably require more skill than they have heretofore demonstrated.

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:34 | 3631728 noless
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I'm honestly surprised there isn't widespread looting already. This shit is ridiculous.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:39 | 3631593 solgundy
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What would Margret Sanger say????????????????????????????????????

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:42 | 3631603 surf0766
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Well she was obviously a racist with her intention of culling those who she did not feel were of the caliper she desired or the color she desired.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:56 | 3631630 nmewn
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Speaking of racist, apparently, by their own standards for anyone criticizing O'Barry, the Times editorial board is now, racist...

"The administration has now lost all credibility. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

Wow, the Tea Party & the NY Times...razzzist...its the end of the world as we know it...lol.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:32 | 3632398 Imminent Crucible
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Not to dispute your point, but the world as I knew it ended a LONG time ago. Back in 1996, I think, when I said "Now that the American people have seen what Bill Clinton really is, there's no way he gets another term.'

WRONG. Grossly, egregiously, hilariously wrong.  When I saw the American people happily re-elect President Blue Dress, seducer of dumb 21 year old interns, liar par excellance, murderer of Ron Brown and 272 others (or is it 2702 others?) Definition of Is, Middle Class Tax Cut Cutter, and Unleasher of Hillary the Killer Chipmunk, I knew it was OVER. America had become something I didn't recognize.

Now I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round. I least I know what it felt like to be living in the Soviet Union right before it blew up.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:01 | 3632601 sgorem
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I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels go round and round.............+4

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:28 | 3632884 nmewn
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Yeah, I guess that was it for me too. It was wrong on so many levels...morally, ethically and in the end (the lie/perjury) legally.

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:03 | 3631651 smacker
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What did she want to use the caliper for?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:28 | 3631716 Manthong
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She had a sociological chisel and lathe and wanted to turn society into a shape that pleased her whims.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:59 | 3631828 MsCreant
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If they are too fat, she culls them.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:29 | 3631966 WTFUD
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@ smacker
'what did shewant to use the caliper for?
ans: her syphilitic cunt

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:40 | 3631595 Gene Parmesan
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It's going to take a lot of war to clean up this mess.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:53 | 3631625 SafelyGraze
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a lot of war, and a lot of vaccinations-for-the-homeless initiatives

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 07:07 | 3632922 swiss chick
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trust the ptb...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:42 | 3631604 WillyGroper
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Coming soon to a country near you.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:43 | 3631605 cossack55
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Ain't democracy grand.  Rather ironic it is in Greece, no?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:02 | 3631646 grid-b-gone
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Are there similar pics from Iceland, or did letting the banks take the hit there really help the average citizen? If yes, let's pick that ending going forward. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:23 | 3632175 AldousHuxley
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cold winter keeps trash indoors.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:18 | 3631694 Escapedgoat
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Greece had NEVER  had Democracy in their existence since 1821. Their Bosses would never allowed that . See 2 Civil wars that they caused '44 to '46 and '47 to '49

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 08:31 | 3638808 Athenian
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There was no democracy before 1821.  Before 1821, it was under Ottoman occupation for some 400 odd years.  Many of the Greeks alive today, however much they hate it, probably have some Turkish in them.  Go to Crete or Cyprus, you'll see what I mean.

And the civil wars in the 1940's had zero to do with democracy - they were pre-cursors to the post WWII cold war - the Stalin backed communists in the red corner, the Churchill backed monarchists in the blue corner.  Until Churchill took Greece from Stalin at Yalta.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631739 JuliaS
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Greece should market itself as a Democracy museum: "Cradle to grave of civilization".

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:30 | 3632194 AldousHuxley
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greeks should immigrate to Germany and open Olive Garden franchise.

who doen't like free breadsticks?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:44 | 3631606 Racer
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As long as the Sh!t & P!$$ closes up the chairSATAN cares not about how many lives he wrecks.... he is on a mission to do many times Hitler's death rate work

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:43 | 3631607 Meat Hammer
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Make the world a better place, shoot a banker in the face.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 08:22 | 3638803 Athenian
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And to think that Jamie Dimon is of Greek decent.  His ancestors will be turning in their graves.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:43 | 3631608 JLee2027
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Seeing those pictures, just pisses me off.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:24 | 3631707 Spigot
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These are probably the worst shots they could get to promote the "horrible truth". These photos grab anyone with a heart, and they trigger anxioty in anyone who is afraid of ending up in the same state of affairs.

Not really sure why they don't have some wide angle shots of vast "tent cities", or barios like Central and South Am has in abundance. My guess is that given all the economic/financial misery the greeks still have very strong families and will pull together as needed to support those families. Granny Pappagionopolis is NOT going to allow the younger generations to go without food and shelter.

And as I told a neighbor who is a long time farmer. Its not the people who've never had money that I'm concerned for: they know how to jack a deer, plant tatters, etc. Its the McMansion dwellers who've never experienced a fall from grace into the pit. They've got few survival skills and no open resouces to support them.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:02 | 3632474 BooMushroom
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Think about all of the things that the lower class did to earn money durin the Great Depression. Now think about the licensing and regulatory regimes that will make that impossible for the very people you are worried about.

It's gonna be ugly.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:43 | 3631609 caimen garou
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It's a shame people live like this, it's happening here already.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:49 | 3631769 JuliaS
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These pictures actually look pretty clean. In my city the homeless ghetto is a lot more horrific - and it's been there though all the economic booms and busts. There it's economic depression 24/7. And gues what? Every homeless started off somewhere relatively decent. Hobo men don't make little hobo children with their hobo wives. Something happens in life - divorce, layoff, depression, medical bills... and they end up on the street.

Greek photos make you uncomfortable? Sheesh! Get out of the house and walk a few blocks. I know your city has homeless. Every city does.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:44 | 3632023 Anusocracy
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I live in a decent Big Ten town and I'm less than two miles from Urbanoutdoorsmenistan.

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:54 | 3632267 AldousHuxley
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Midwest manufacturing centers without Obama's rescue of Big3 Auto, would be toast.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:06 | 3632829 NidStyles
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LOL! Obama's rescue, have you seen Ohio lately?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:35 | 3632644 Henry Hub
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Shh, We're not supposed to mention stuff like the in the U.S. I mean you rarely read about it in the media and Congress never concerns itself with it. No this only goes on in foreign countries. The economy is turning around here. It's all going to trickle down the oligarchs leg and we'll get some... any day now.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:45 | 3631612 Silver Bully
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4th World Country?!

Man, you know inflation is picking up when they have to make up another world to stuff the poor into.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:47 | 3631613 Jeepers Creepers
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All of this because Greek politicians thought they could keep buying votes forever.

Margaret Thatcher - "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:02 | 3631647 Solarman
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I didn't see any homeless politician in these pictures.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:32 | 3631982 Go Tribe
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Yeah, where are the homeless bankers. One can only hope they are dead.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:42 | 3632647 Henry Hub
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***"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."***

The problem with crony capitalism is that the middle class eventually runs out of money.

Fixed it for yur!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:47 | 3631614 Seasmoke
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I have nothing witty to say. Not good.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:52 | 3631620 Jaspergers
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So sad that a country with such potential has fallen so low.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:56 | 3632068 Anusocracy
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When I was in high school, I had a short discussion with a fellow student, who was of Greek descent, about the decline of Greek Civilization.

My last comment was: At the rate the Greeks are degenerating, in another 50 years they will be swinging in the trees.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:44 | 3632650 ebworthen
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Just like the rest of us.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:52 | 3631621 VanillaSkyGuy
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Who cares?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:52 | 3631624 Pizza man
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I expect more from zerohedge. Tyler, you could find 100X of the samein the best of times in any US, European, Japanese..etc city. This is emotional clap-trap. I have no doubt Greece is descending as you suggest, but give us something factual, please.

I use this site in attempts to sway folks to the reality of what is going on globally. This post proves nothing.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:28 | 3631717 seek
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I somewhat agree, but this story did have some good nuggets of news in it.

I think it was a poor selection of people to profile by the journalist doing this. The real story here is people made homeless by the financial collapse that wouldn't have been otherwise. People with psychiatric and drug problems form the core of the existing homeless population pretty much in any country you look (and sadly, aren't news) so half the the those profiled really aren't news here.

I think pics of tent cities and homeless camps are far more informative than anecdotal cases. When you see a sea of tents next to a large city, it carries a much more powerful message regarding the scale of the problem.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:45 | 3632653 ebworthen
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So those people mean nothing?

Isn't that the attitude that got us where we are?

Most of these people worked, had jobs, and took care of themselves prior to this bankster shit storm.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:53 | 3631626 sunny
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The choice was simple.  A horrible ending or horrors without end.  They chose horrors without end, as did Ireland, Cyprus, Portugal, etc.  If you shoot yourself in the foot, you cannot bitch about bloody socks.

sunny

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:59 | 3631638 Jaspergers
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You make a valid point but unfortunately that doesn't ease their suffering. The propaganda in Greece is worse than in the US. Most Greeks have no clue who the enemy is.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 18:58 | 3631635 orangegeek
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Forward this posting to those two fucking assholes, Ben and Barry.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:01 | 3631644 Bastiat
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You'd get the same as from Sibelious the other day:  some people live, some die.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:00 | 3631640 Yen Cross
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     The Greeks need to leave the euro and go back to the drachma. Once they devalue people will start coming, and the unemployment will drop. I hope the Troika rots in hell!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:13 | 3631681 Escapedgoat
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And not before the Greeks send the whole, and I mean  THE WHOLE  political class (from Ultra Left to the Ultra Right) to the GALLOWS.

 They  are all in cahoots, against the entire Nation, Not forgeting the Cypriots

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:18 | 3631691 Peter Pan
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I don't want the drivers of the TROIKA to go to hell. I want them to be in a living hell in this life.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:03 | 3631653 cougar_w
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It will get worse before it gets any better.

And then it won't get any better, either.

Enter. The New Middle Ages. But what exactly we are in the middle of I dare not say.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:03 | 3632665 medium giraffe
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Compare to post Roman collapse. A second dark age. We won't have a Europe anymore, just bands of neo-Visigoths rampaging about.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:04 | 3631654 Pairadimes
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Detroit has this beat handily, and at least Greece is in the Mediterranean.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:12 | 3631672 ShrNfr
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Besides, Detroit also has Kilpatrick. Bankers are honest in comparison with that shit.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:08 | 3631664 rwl160
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looks like detroit...

 

 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:42 | 3632018 Tourist2008
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Exactly, thats why people are despairing and want to kill themselves ....

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:09 | 3631667 Cyclerider
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You could talke a lot of pictures of homeless people in this country.  Their stories would be just as sad.  You can find plenty of walls with graffitti to photograph as well. This doesn't really tell us much about the state of Greece as a whole.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:17 | 3631689 Pizza man
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Exactly...emotional post. Proves nothing even as I completely agree with the premise.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:29 | 3631720 lolmao500
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Yep, there's lots of people in the US that have moved in the sewers or flood tunnels following the 2008 crash.

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