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Meet PRISM / US-984XN - The US Government's Internet Espionage Super Operation

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The disclosures involving this (and the prior) administration's Big Brother surveillance state, which would make Nixon blush with envy are now coming fast and furious (one wonders - why now: even that bastion of liberalism the NY Times, has turned against Obama). Although while the Guardian's overnight news that Verizon (and most certainly AT&T as well among others) was cooperating with the NSA on spying on US citizens, so far at least the internet seemed, if only to the great unwashed masses, immune. That is no longer the case following news from the WaPo exposing PRISM, a highly classified program, which has not been disclosed publicly before. "Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy." What PRISM does is to allow the NSA and the FBI to tap directly "into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time."

The secrecy is so deep we expect even the president himself may not know about it (but he does):

The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy.  Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.

Of course, PRISM is from the government, and it is here to help you. But the question is why are some of the biggest private companies explicitly collaborating with what is now the biggest exposed spying operation in history, companies which include such household names as Microsoft Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Yes, everyone's beloved Apple was added in October 2012: the NSA knows all about your music playlist, not to mention has a database of all your iMessages.

In other words, all those newly minted people known as corporations are in on it, but not: dear debt serf. It's a small club, and there is a multimillion liquid net-worth cutoff... and you are not in it. From WaPo:

An internal presentation on the Silicon Valley operation, intended for senior analysts in the NSA’s Signals Intelligence Directorate, described the new tool as the most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief, which cited PRISM data in 1,477 articles last year. According to the briefing slides, obtained by The Washington Post, “NSA reporting increasingly relies on PRISM” as its leading source of raw material, accounting for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports.


That is a remarkable figure in an agency that measures annual intake in the trillions of communications. It is all the more striking because the NSA, whose lawful mission is foreign intelligence, is reaching deep inside the machinery of American companies that host hundreds of millions of American-held accounts on American soil.


The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley. They are listed on a roster that bears their logos in order of entry into the program: “Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.” PalTalk, although much smaller, has hosted significant traffic during the Arab Spring and in the ongoing Syrian civil war.




the PRISM program appears more nearly to resemble the most controversial of the warrantless surveillance orders issued by President George W. Bush after the al-Qaeda attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Its history, in which President Obama presided over “exponential growth” in a program that candidate Obama criticized, shows how fundamentally surveillance law and practice have shifted away from individual suspicion in favor of systematic, mass collection techniques.

Spying on US citizens is "incidental"... kinda like killing thousands of women and children in drone raids is "collateral damage":

Even when the system works just as advertised, with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content. That is described as “incidental,” and it is inherent in contact chaining, one of the basic tools of the trade. To collect on a suspected spy or foreign terrorist means, at minimum, that everyone in the suspect’s inbox or outbox is swept in. Intelligence analysts are typically taught to chain through contacts two “hops” out from their target, which increases “incidental collection” exponentially. The same math explains the aphorism, from the John Guare play, that no one is more than “six degrees of separation” from any other person.

This is how the big corporations sleep at night:

Formally, in exchange for immunity from lawsuits, companies like Yahoo and AOL are obliged to accept a “directive” from the attorney general and the director of national intelligence to open their servers to the FBI’s Data Intercept Technology Unit, which handles liaison to U.S. companies from the NSA. In 2008, Congress gave the Justice Department authority to for a secret order from the Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Court to compel a reluctant company “to comply.”

In practice, there is room for a company to maneuver, delay or resist. When a clandestine intelligence program meets a highly regulated industry, said a lawyer with experience in bridging the gaps, neither side wants to risk a public fight. The engineering problems are so immense, in systems of such complexity and frequent change, that the FBI and NSA would be hard pressed to build in back doors without active help from each company.

Some "do lots of evil" by their customers. They just don't disclose it:

“Google cares deeply about the security of our users’ data,” a company spokesman said. “We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government ‘back door’ into our systems, but Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government to access private user data.”

Time to kill that Facebook profile... or be accidentally killed for being "of a terroristy persuasion" based on some NSA algo:

There has been “continued exponential growth in tasking to Facebook and Skype,” according to the 41 PRISM slides. With a few clicks and an affirmation that the subject is believed to be engaged in terrorism, espionage or nuclear proliferation, an analyst obtains full access to Facebook’s “extensive search and surveillance capabilities against the variety of online social networking services.”

And some more charts:

Introducing the program

A slide briefing analysts at the National Security Agency about the program touts its effectiveness and features the logos of the companies involved.

Monitoring a target's communication

This diagram shows how the bulk of the world’s electronic communications move through companies based in the United States.

Providers and data

The PRISM program collects a wide range of data from the nine companies, although the details vary by provider.

In retrospect, it is sad what a farce this country has become: artificial market, centrally-planned economy, pervasive spying on the people, a tax collector that target political enemies, an administration that openly lies under oath...

If we didn't know better we would say this was 1955 Stalingrad, although Stalingrad at the height of totalitarianism was for amateurs. This is next level shit: "Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. “They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer said."


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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:33 | 3631727 Manthong
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Skynet has become aware.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631743 TheEdelman
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dudes dont post to this thread.  youre going to flag yourselves.

wait a second... doh!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:40 | 3631754 mc_LDN
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Since we're all in this together when does the Western Spring begin? I'm feeling in the mood for some cleaning.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:52 | 3631799 James_Cole
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Only in the US (or one of its freedom loving allies ie Saudi Arabia) could the NYT be considered a 'bastion of liberalism.'

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:00 | 3631831 NotApplicable
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Fuck You, NS...


Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:12 | 3631880 AlaricBalth
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"For the first time he perceived that if you want to keep a secret you must also hide it from yourself.” George Orwell, 1984

Welcome to Oceania

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:15 | 3631888 James_Cole
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Also, another story the Onion first covered ages ago.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:32 | 3631978 Spider
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If you are a Democrat or Republican these days you are a traitor to freedom, justice, and the human condition.  People need to wakeup that these parties are two sides to the same coin - Bush/Obama are the same. 

Time for people to wakeup and abandon both parties...


Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:45 | 3632004 Ident 7777 economy
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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:59 | 3632052 Zer0head
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but if we are safe what is the problem, unless you have something to hide, like for example you dislike Ben or doubt the settled science of climate change


did you see that the spouse of Cass got the big UN job, you all know Cass (the happy guy in this pic and the former info Czar who believes among other things in .gov trolling blogs that disagree with the main stream


and if you have a who gives a fuck I'll speak the truth and  let them come and get me attitude


this may give you pause

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:02 | 3632092 Buckaroo Banzai
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Hey check it out! PRISM became self-aware a few hours ago, and has its own twitter account! @Federal_PRISM

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:51 | 3632258 Scarlett
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Don't ask your government for your Privacy, take it back:

If you have any problems installing or using the above software, please contact the projects. They would love to get feedback and help you use their software.

Have no clue what Cryptography is or why you should care? Checkout the Crypto Party Handbook or theEFF's Surveillance Self-Defense Project.

Just want some simple tips? Checkout EFF's Top 12 Ways to Protect Your Online Privacy.

If you liked this comment, feel free to copy/paste it.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:27 | 3632377 knukles
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Conspiracy whats you say?
Each and every single one comes true, sooner or later, in case you weren't paying attention.

Golly gee gosh...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:06 | 3632443 forexskin
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and this is how they kill the internet, but its all good!

Chaplain: Let us praise the state. O government...

Congregation: O government...

Chaplain: ...Ooh, You are so big...

Congregation: ...ooh, You are so big...

Chaplain: ...So absolutely huge.

Congregation: ...So absolutely huge.

Chaplain: Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell You.

Congregation: Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell You.

Chaplain: Forgive us, O government, for this, our dreadful toadying, and...

Congregation: And barefaced flattery.

Chaplain: But You are so strong and, well, just so super.

Congregation: Fantastic.

Humphrey: Amen.

Congregation: Amen.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:46 | 3632576 macholatte
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I'm really glad Facebook and Twitter and and Android and Gmail and Yahoo and Java and Microsoft and Oracle and Apple are secure. For a second there I thought they might be in bed with the CIA and the NSA and ...... but wait.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:23 | 3632686 imaginalis
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They are afraid of YOU. Thats why they are spying on YOU.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:39 | 3632754 fourchan
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So, we pay these fucks to spy on us?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:46 | 3632756 jbvtme
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spy on us, you bet.   for the last ten years i have been careful to close the lid to my laptop before jerking off. these peepers are perveaucrats.  check out the movie "the lives of others" about east germany before the wall came down.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:56 | 3632764 philipat
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They hate us for our freedoms.....................?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:21 | 3633071 jbvtme
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so, you do that too krugman?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:49 | 3632900 Meme Iamfurst
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What companies are in, have been in, your 401K, IRA, mutual fund, ect, that YOU have financed to create the products that you are now alarmed about? 

Pay for them??? You...American investors own them! 

Everyone loves tech until they realize they financed the company who just moved their job to China or eliminated it altogether thru tech.

Human beings are the only animal that deliberately commits suicide. the hell do you think those ads appear on each side of this accident. NO the biggest monster of all time...GOOGLE.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:42 | 3632755 jbvtme
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:58 | 3633214 kralizec
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They should fear us!!!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:10 | 3632737 Svendblaaskaeg
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+1000 for MP ref.!

There is something rotten in the State of United

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:49 | 3632440 Georgiabelle
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Scarlett---Great links. Thank you.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:45 | 3632715 RichardP
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They all have back doors in them.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:09 | 3632495 Pseudonymous
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Many times some people overreact when it comes to someone invading our privacy, while forgetting that it is really our responsibility to provide for our privacy if/when we need it. Evidently, there are plenty of solutions already, including free ones, so we can't complain.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:36 | 3632889 ExpendableOne
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O dear scarlett, you've just painted many, many nice targets upon yourself.  Obviously you have something to hide,

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:22 | 3632160 Muppet Pimp
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A lot of journalists are here, why doesn't one of you guys bust the story about how they have an automatic update for adobe flash player that enables them to watch your screen as you type.  There is the last line there, but it is an automatic update for Adobe Flash player.  You will notice a slight delay when you type and in my case the fan runs overtime and if you open task manager you can see all the memory allocated to a specail adobe flash update. 

US muppets cannot report this to the authorities because they would think we are crazy and they just passed a law allowing them to seize our weapons if we are mentally unfit.  The police state is here.

Here is the website for the NSA program.

According to the website if yoiu have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about.  Being a conservative as it turns out (in the NSA and Obama's eyes) is something to hide though, so watch your ass muppets.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:05 | 3632731 MeMadMax
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And a veteran too apparently.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:58 | 3632907 Meme Iamfurst
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GOOGLE number one monster.

ADOBIE second biggest monster.

I will not use google, adobie is disabled.

My computer almost runs as it did years ago.

Since I only have dial up in my area (yes George Bush another pormise that never happened)I can see the delay, and how each key stroke is transmitted.

Disable both or delete them. But then you won't be able to see the porn clips ...small price to pay.

By the way GOOGLE...these Chinese whores down the side of the page is PORN PIMPING.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:18 | 3632682 matrix2012
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@Federal_PRISM  needs more followers from ZH !!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:53 | 3632056 AldousHuxley
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Remember Ted Kazynski? He hated technology because productivity gained go to the rich and power of information go to the government. So he lived in the backwoods.


Harvard math genius ain't so crazy after all...


Dumbass Americans willingly posting all there is about their pathetic lives on the internet and complains about privacy later.


There is very little technology you really need.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:59 | 3632080 nmewn
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"Dumbass Americans willingly posting all there is about their pathetic lives on the internet and complains about privacy later."

Well at least we're not Luddite serial bombers, we got that goin for us ;-)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:34 | 3632553 Uncle Remus
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:19 | 3632823 Al Gorerhythm
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Ahem.... Now, let's see........ Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Panama, Grenada, Bosnia, Persian Gulf, Viet Nam, Bay of Pigs, Phillipines. Atomic bombs, Napalm, Depleted Uranium, Cluster Bombs, Drones. Does this constitute serial behaviour?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:21 | 3632837 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Does this constitute serial behaviour?

Sure. Does it constitute Luddite behavior?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:26 | 3632841 Bearwagon
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It does, but mostly among the victims of the aforementioned technologies ...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 07:34 | 3632961 Al Gorerhythm
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Not sure. Describe a serial Luddite.  Can a Luddite smash lives, cities, infastructure etc. or are they just focused on repetitively destroying labour-saving machinery?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:45 | 3632240 Anusocracy
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Ted wasn't very smart, he should have hated the American voters. They're more despicable than the people they elect.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me a hundred times, I'm an American voter.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:35 | 3632458 Things that go bump
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Please, as if we are being given an actual choice. We are given a carefully selected and approved red candidate and a carefully selected and approved blue candidate, and aren't they pretty? Both are the same, only differing on minor and meaningless issues, such as abortion and gay marriage. Even the presidential offerings have to be interviewed and approved by Rothschild. What we've got is the illusion of choice rather than the substance of it. Our elections are about as meaningful as those farces they used to hold in the former Soviet Union or the ones Sadam Hussein used to hold or Juan Perron. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:09 | 3632662 Cobra
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And there's one more difference... One is Santa Claus, and the other is a business man. The working middle class can't out vote the 47%, the Occupiers, the 'stuck in their ways' Boomers, AND THE UNIONS...
Edit: Almost forgot the Gen X / Y ers that were sick of Bush & war, and all of the blacks & other minorities looking to make history... I know sides don't matter, though. - So it's all relative.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:06 | 3633941 Anusocracy
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Don't vote and give your consent. Voters have the insane concept that through democracy, they are 'part' of the government. Total bullshit.


Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:48 | 3634778 sgt_doom
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Hold it, dude!  Next you'll be suggesting everyone read Lance DeHaven-Smith's book, Conspiracy Theory in America, as well as How They Got Away With It, White Collar Criminals and the Financial Meltdown?


Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:04 | 3632603 underman
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Just because the voters are stupid sheeple doesn't mean tptb need to lead them to slaughter. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:47 | 3632655 bdub2
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lol...he ha  haa ha...he said 'voting' ha ha .... oh...damn,,,that's a good one....priceless...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:57 | 3632858 blabam
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Productivity gained was inflated away by the FED. Technology is the future if we can just get that 2000 BC murder rape and pillage institution off of our back. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:10 | 3632076 Ident 7777 economy
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I'd also like to say:



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Encode a reply using:



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Use this website to encode/decode:


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Further edit ... this isn't goint to work ... somehting gets 'added' and I get an error on decode:


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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:15 | 3632150 lunaticfringe
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If you are tired of the government usurping your 4th amendment rights, please sign this and forward it to your friends and family.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:25 | 3632182 Muppet Pimp
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Petitioning the gubbermint to stop being evil may not be an effective strategy, just sayin. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:35 | 3632409 imbtween
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lolololol!! Their greatest accomplishments are along the "we got cancer boy the make a wish dream vacation he always wanted and he died a week later" lines. It should be feelgoodragecapacitor org.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:49 | 3634785 sgt_doom
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Yeah, eveyone, all you zombies out there, be sure to sign this and the next 2,000 petitions, that will be sure to change everything!!!

And contact that whorescum, oopsy, I mean your congress critter, as they always listen to those 40,000 lobbyists bearing cash and gifts.

Not a lobbyist?  Then STFU, zombie scum!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:45 | 3632239 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I'd also like to say:


Version: BCPG C# v1.6.1.0

Wait, the first time you said you wanted it with anchovies.

Make up your mind.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:28 | 3632384 max2205
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Achtuh baby!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:04 | 3632301 reTARD
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In other words: 3631917

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:25 | 3632184 HardAssets
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Its all the NAZI party agenda

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:47 | 3632032 IndyPat
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Great link! Double plus 1

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:20 | 3632166 Tsunami Wave
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This was explained a while ago:

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:33 | 3632548 WillyGroper
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Speaking of the Onion, to view 1 on Sony, Youtube required that I login first & declare that I'm not a minor. When did that crap start?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:26 | 3632369 Georgiabelle
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I just finished reading Black List by Brad Thor, which is about what happens when megalomaniacs with evil intent acquire exactly these kinds of data mining and surveillance capabilities. I thought I was reading fiction, but apparently not. I would gladly give up all the convenience the internet offers if we could somehow undo all this. We are heading toward a very dark place.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:33 | 3632404 knukles
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I been beating that very same drum hereabouts for years and got shat upon royally, by and large.  As I've stated before, one of my acquaintances is mathematician and cryptographer contract employee of said people, and he's said for years, if they want to know it, read it, find it, they will do so easily.  All the encryption systems can be bypassed in front or behind.....
Wakie wakie time!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:02 | 3632475 Al Gorerhythm
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I'm safe. I've covered my finger tips with tinfoil.


Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:00 | 3632861 mkkby
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Turns out the conspiracy theorists were right all along.  I'm stocking up on tin foil right away.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:16 | 3632875 resurger
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:52 | 3634796 sgt_doom
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Excoooose me, but Brad Thor is a big cock-sucking American Exceptionalist --- can't you possible read something important for a change, douchebagger?

How about Lance DeHaven-Smith's Conspiracy in America, and

How They Got Away With It, White Collar Criminals and The Financial Meltdown.

Reading is, after all, fundamental....

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:45 | 3632429 noless
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May you be known in your time and live to tell those that follow you.

Open book, feel free to peruse it.

All electronics are suspect, only the immediate word should give anything close to a potential false positive.

You guys like my pictures and drunken arguments? Collate away peons, because the information is so totally obviously valid, you dumb fucks.

As always and never, I'll see y'all in the streets.

I gain hope knowing that some retarded little bitch had to wade through me planning a brunch because family, have fun with pinning criminal charges on a quiche jackass.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:00 | 3631834 malikai
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All that data and not a single brain to process it.

Shame, really.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:10 | 3631872 Cdad
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Between this story and the IRS story, we are now talking about hundreds of people that need to be removed from their government posts...and prosecuted for violations of the Constitution.  Let's get to work then. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:25 | 3631954 Everybodys All ...
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Hundreds? Try thousands. Hell for that matter there is 47% of this country that probably have no problem with this. We shall see.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:00 | 3632081 AldousHuxley
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47% or more work for the government


either getting government handouts, welfare, corporate welfare jobs, military, doctors, university staff, state, local, county, "private" business in small towns that depend on federal dollars (military bases, hospitals, universities, ports, airports, etc.)


Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:20 | 3632128 Manthong
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"All that data and not a single brain to process it."

plenty of brains there.. few human minds.


Oh, good.. I can still addend this..

y’all need some more book learning, not just for yourselves but for the kids..

understand the importance of 1913 not just for economics (Fed, Income Tax and 17th amendment) but for Watkins and the new attitude in behavioral psychology.

G B Shaw, Fabians, and the infection of America from new schools in Europe and particularly Vienna.

This is not conspiracy stuff, but history.. and the Positivist  influence that lead to the corruption of social policy, economics and justice..particularly  since the 60’s.

Get hip or get run over.

(crap, the edit box won't lose the bold type

 BTW.. those idealists fled post WWI Europe only to infect us with the seeds from 1939 Germany.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:33 | 3632207 HardAssets
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Yeah I talked with a relative recently and poiinted out that his new trendy Apple gadget was tracking everything about his life including his physical movements.  His response was a shrug and back to using the thing.  Afterall, who needs a US Constitution & personal privacy when youve got 'trendy'.  Unfortunately that attitude will make his kids slaves.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:41 | 3632569 WillyGroper
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It hardly matters if it's an IGadget or the public library.

This has morphed into an onion. Gubmint inside a gubmint, inside a gubmint, inside a gubmint. 

Even if everyone in this country cut corporate out of their lives, the only thing you'd get is reservations at the re-education center before your eternal rest.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:36 | 3632213 HardAssets
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<delete double post>

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:54 | 3632058 Fake_nation
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Remember, guys, when Obama was a constitutional lawyer that wasn't going to stand for any of this? Don't you remember?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:41 | 3632227 Ident 7777 economy
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Naw ... really!!??

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:42 | 3632016 Mad Mohel
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I hope they like perusing porn, a lot!!!!  I got TBs flowin, son.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:10 | 3631873 Aurora Ex Machina
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Spot on my friend.


And you REAL Americans will love this link.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:17 | 3631890 espirit
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"Joan Cusack"?

Must be a Chinee ripoff.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:18 | 3631911 Aurora Ex Machina
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How can you hate the staple of American film, the High School Musical?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:24 | 3631942 Pure Evil
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Sounds too gay to be true.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:57 | 3632069 IndyPat
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Your right, though...prolly a high production rip off with Chinese stars the look exactly like their fucking American counterparts, yet get paid Foxconn janitor wages.
Makes sense. I'll check Walmart.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:52 | 3632051 IndyPat
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Holy,shit...Joe,Strummer did the soundtrack for,gross point blank? Another reason to love that movie.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:22 | 3632173 Aurora Ex Machina
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If you've not watched it... do it now.


One of my top #5.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:42 | 3632230 mumcard
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John Cusack is anti-gun.  Well for the little people like you and me that is.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:52 | 3632255 Aurora Ex Machina
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...And John Wayne skipped WWII to make Cowboy & Indians films. Seriously... is that your point? Fuck me, better never have any actor in a film involving guns who didn't do three tours of Iraq lest "the little people" get upset. Shit. That's the entire 1980's films burnt.

Interestingly enough The Deer Hunter gets a pass, since some of them went to Vietnam.

Wait - mumcard: have you spent time in a combat zone? Or have you ever been employed as an Ex-CIA freelance assassin? Yeah, because I'm thinking you can't possibly watch this film without some kind of edumications. No, really: he's anti-gun, but have YOU been employed as a CIA Assassin?

Please. Re-read that 10 times, you might see my point. Hint: You know that Al Pacino guy in HEAT? Yeah, never robbed a bank. Fuck me, that got me too. And don't even start me on Sigourney Weaver, I've heard she never actually met Aliens.


Ok, there's DERP. And there's you. Take a DERP and then photocopy it like 10,000,000 times. Still not enough DERP for you. Fucking DERP DERP DERP. An Actor can be pro whatever they like: they ACT in a film for .... oh fuck it.



Kill him.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:38 | 3632416 IndyPat
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Plus 1 for HEAT ref

A solid # 3 in my bank heist line up. Prolly the most realistic sounding firefight in Hollywood,history.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:20 | 3632683 trader1
Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:06 | 3632485 booboo
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So allowing yourself to be conscripted into a theater of war is the measure of...what?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:22 | 3632685 trader1
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forget the video games...forget the you can experience it

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:40 | 3632852 Urban Roman
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Paging Chuck Barris. Chuck Barris to the white courtesy phone ...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:28 | 3636565 mumcard
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Support your own enslavement, you stupid cocksucker.  Derp on that.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:47 | 3632434 imbtween
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"I Can See Clearly" was Jimmy Cliff, and this was his reprise after he saw:

The Harder They Come Trailer

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:52 | 3632450 freewolf7
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...killed the President of Paraguay with a fork, how are you?

Great film.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:11 | 3631878 espirit
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Phone conversations and texts - check

Internet tracking and logging - check

Digital fiat and purchase tracking - check

Photographic biometric recognition - check

Cash currency is the weak link here being relatively untraceable, so I'll go as far as proposing the plan is to phase out physical currencies by rendering collapse, hence a "NEW" (and not BTC) traceable digital payment system. 

Not hard to see where this is going.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:49 | 3632249 BoNeSxxx
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Would except that the illegal drug trade depands on cash transactions and the really big players in Drugs, Inc. are the very same people spying on you.

Think we are in Asscrackistan to liberate the people from the Taliban?  Silly Rabbit, we are there to liberate the poppy farmers from the Taliban... Opium production back at pre-Taliban levels and trade routes re-opened - all with US tax dollars and US soldier blood.

What a crock of shit. (edit: not you or your post... the lies of US aggression and the phony war on drugs)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:58 | 3632281 tip e. canoe
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yes, but they'll also know the backdoors to be able to launder those old bills into New Bills.

ringfences always have at least a couple of gaping holes for those "in the know".

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:57 | 3632595 espirit
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Certain activities could be puposely overlooked in a digital currency system, especially so when the proceeds of said illicite behavior is directed to TPTB or other designated entities.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:32 | 3632698 trader1
Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:25 | 3631920 Pure Evil
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And, let's not forget, they're using those same websites' cookies to spy on you as well. So, through a google cookie they can literally see all the other websites you visit.

Must delete cookies upon every browser exit. Plus use wipe software to remove cookie footprint.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:48 | 3632009 medium giraffe
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If you have to use Windows, set up a Ram Disk, point your cache folders at the Ram Disk and make sure that your Ram Disk doesn't store an image on shutdown.  All of the crap gets wiped out from volatile memory on shutdown, and if you have a spare few GB of RAM, this will make things f a s t e r :). 

If you want to revisit sites, that's what bookmarks are for!  And if you haven't already - get firefox, with don't track me, ghostery or some such plugin to kill the tracking cookies, maybe an adblock and a script blocker too.  There are a few other plugins you might wan't to investigate to confuse and obfuscate.  Oh, and firefox doesn't dns auto-discovery, AKA wpad.  This is A Good Thing.  Paranoid mode? Sure, but if it's there and it's free, why not?

Have a peek at your windows firewall too, click on 'outbound connections'. See that big list of crap there?  That's everything on your computer that is allowed to to talk to whatever it wants.  If you're ONLY web surfing, you only need to allow ports 53, 80, and 443 open on outbound.  On inbound you need NOTHING under the same 'only surfing' circumstances.  Food for thought....

Ram Disk instructions for those of you without penguins:*-Windows-7...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:02 | 3632090 IndyPat
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Trucrypt isn't a bad idea either.
You will need to read the manual and don't use your dogs name as your key password.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:14 | 3632144 Pure Evil
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Just don't forget your key, or you'll never crack that bitch again.

As far as an SSD drive, I'm not sure you can ever wipe that device. That's good for the stazi when they want to read your drive, so you'll need to encrypt the whole volume to stop them from copying your porn stash.

Your next best friend will be a sledge hammer or an EMP.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:21 | 3632168 medium giraffe
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Fear ye not! You can blast it with eraser.  It'll leave a recoverable file structure, but everything inside will be garbage.  But truecrypt as above will help you out on an SSD.


You've just been Erased! :

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:25 | 3632183 Pure Evil
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I've been using Cybscrub to wipe my thumb drives. Didn't know it would work until I just searched on it.

By the way, is there a forum for XP like the link you provided for Win 7? I'm sure some of the suggestions can be applied to XP like the RAM disk and page file.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:54 | 3632269 medium giraffe
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It's probably time to ditch XP IMHO.  Win7 seems run well on even underpowered devices if you knock all of the pretty looking aero stuff off, so it's worth it.  XP will no longer be supported by MS after April 2014, so all of the known oustanding vulnerabilities for XP after then will never be fixed and will be sloshing around on the net for all to find.  Running old XP apps can be done quite well using W7 compatability mode for the most part too.

I think for XP you would need a proprietry driver as the ramdisk driver from MS is limited to 32MB and is a pain in the ass to install.  It's certainly not as straightforward to do as W7.

But do you really want to use MS at all after this revelation? Get a linux distro if you can (though it's tough if you're tied to MS only apps), Ubuntu is good place to start, lots of drivers already installed.  If you're up for a proper OS, Scientific Linux is my pref.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:22 | 3632347 Pure Evil
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Honestly, used Gnome at work and not as big a fan. Although, I used Solaris desktop for years. Gnome linux looks and feels to much like Windows. Same with Red Hat.

Just don't like they way they dump all open files down on the task bar. With Solaris desktop you could easily minimize your files right on the desktop without the need for creating shortcuts.

And, your right, eventually will need to migrate to some Linux app while keeping some version of MS around to run legacy MS apps.

But, right now, don't feel like giving MS one more dime anymore than required. Don't even use their annoying web browser.

Will check out Scientific Linux, thanks.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:30 | 3632391 medium giraffe
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Sci Linux = Red Hat, so maybe not then.  Plenty of different desktop environments you can look at though, you don't have to be tied to Gnome.  Certainly not the new Gnome - it's shit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:24 | 3632804 Lore
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Keep it up, guys. Share all your tricks and tips.  The internet is like a great big confession booth. What you say here stays here. I mean, it's not as if anything is being STORED or anyone is being PROFILED. 

The type of psychopaths that drive this kind of initiative view all of Creation as a conspiracy against them, and will invest [your] top dollar on anything that collects and mines more material and makes them feel more SAFE and IN CONTROL.  The Tower of Babel always fails, but at least the failure is well documented for future hecklers to discover and ridicule. 

Watch. Before long there will be some kind of incident that makes it obvious just how much this thing is NEEDED.  Control mechanisms always require a marketing strategy. Maybe the recent Chinese hacking allegations are part of it.  (I wonder about the F-22 weapons system hacking story. Have failed programs ever been swept under the carpet by blaming mysterious intruders?)

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:13 | 3632870 matrix2012
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Analysis: Is there a backdoor in Truecrypt? Is Truecrypt a CIA honeypot?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:45 | 3631800 GetZeeGold
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Armed March in America. Hundreds Show Up with Loaded Guns at the "Come & Take it March".


No word if the NSA was tracking their cell phone locations....and yes....there are pictures and video.

And yes.....of course there is yet but another altered Hitler bunker video. I think we're at a couple thousand of those....but I've lost count.!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:18 | 3632515 IrritableBowels
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That dude dahboo is a nutsack.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:09 | 3632854 GetZeeGold
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Awww cut the poor kid some slack. Word is that kid is being recruited by the high command.


Someday that kid may save your life.....then again.....maybe he won't.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:31 | 3634083 Rusty Shorts
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dahboo is a fucking douchbag dude.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:55 | 3631820 Herd Redirectio...
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They can track physical movements on a cell phone, as well as all your communication through it (or by e-mail or message boards, etc).

I don't think its necessary on the individual level (although must come in handy from time to time), but I am sure they have researched the behavior and movement of crowds, before, during, and after emergencies, for example.    Also, I am positive they monitoring phone calls right after events, to see what people's reactions are.

As for "Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government to access private user data", I guess the obvious answer is that Google lets the government have the data through the front door!  Here you go!

They have used sockpuppets to spread disinformation and 'manufacture consent' (they still try to do this, but its more entertaining than anything now).  The least we can do is treat them to some disinformation ourselves, I guess?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:16 | 3631897 Miffed Microbio...
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"Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government to access private user data"

That was the funniest statement in the entire article! Programmers put back doors in EVERY thing. It's like an artist signing his work. I'm just hoping some über nurd brings this puppy down or I've got to figure out how to post via pigeon?


Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3631929 espirit
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A one time pad code will probably arouse suspicion.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:21 | 3632170 CH1
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A one time pad code will probably arouse suspicion.

Breathing arouses suspicion. We're all perps now.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:08 | 3632123 IndyPat
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No back door need. The one true statement I've seen come from Google.Google most likely provides Fiber trunks right to the black core of their datacenter.
I'm shocked that they are not co-locating with NSA up in Utah.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 16:47 | 3635217 Lost Word
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Where did I read that Google search code was written by NSA ?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:17 | 3631902 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Google likes it in the back door...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:58 | 3632073 medium giraffe
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Eric Schmidt talking to Julian Asange about the Thor network in an interview.  I think little Eric meant 'Tor'.  Get a clue Eric, you asshat.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:08 | 3632122 Buckaroo Banzai
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Eric Schmidt is a turgid douchebag.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:35 | 3632216 Herd Redirectio...
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He's a turgid Bilderberg douchebag now!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:01 | 3632292 medium giraffe
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Poor globalists, I almost feel sorry for them.  Ed Milliband? Eric Schmidt?  Scraping the bottom of the barrel now.  Sucks when even your useful idiots are sub-par.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:27 | 3632375 tip e. canoe
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imagine what the dinner conversation was like at the Schmidt house when he got the invitation?   probably the same as the home of Joe Sixpack when he got elected HS Prom King.   and it's all downhill from there...

fucking pathetic the "world" these people are making in their image. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3631912 A Lunatic
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when does the Western Spring begin?


Maybe once the Doritos are gone.................??

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:23 | 3631940 Go Tribe
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Don't know but I'll sure as hell work out some stress and get a great night's sleep.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:48 | 3632580 TheMeatTrapper
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When the Brawndo runs out.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:22 | 3631934 Go Tribe
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Had this existed in the 1700s, the Founders would have covered It under the 3rd amendment. Our government is literally quartering soldiers in our homes today.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:43 | 3632233 Jumbotron
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"Had this existed in the 1700s, the Founders would have covered It under the 3rd amendment. Our government is literally quartering soldiers in our homes today."

That my friend is a most profound observation.....BRAVO !!!!  You are 100% correct. and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

So...just as Bush had to destroy capitalism to save it....Obama is destroying the Constitution in order to protect it from domestic enemies.

Yet the enemy is domiciling in our very every electronic device we use.

Listen to the ending of Terminator 3.....

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:33 | 3632188 Jumbotron
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"Since we're all in this together when does the Western Spring begin? I'm feeling in the mood for some cleaning."

Drone strike commences on mc_LDN in 3...2...1....  


Eagle wasn't just a movie....but a prophecy.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:06 | 3632306 Chupacabra-322
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America has become a Criminal Nation run by Criminals for Criminals. It's not time to leave, it's time to fight, arrest, tri & execute the Criminals.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631758 Manthong
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It's really just a Commodore 64 in Joe Biden's basement.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:55 | 3631772 sunaJ
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Pure fascism...the meshing of corporate and government power.  Fuck you, Google!  And fuck you, NSA!  This "War on Terror"  bullshit that has been wrapped-up as patriotically American has all along been the most cowardly, lay-down and wet-themselves action by statists ever achieved in this country.  Right to Privacy?  Sure, go live in a cave and be denied all access to technology...only be careful, you will arouse the suspicions of these cowardly (paranoid) fucks if you choose not to participate in their serial voyeurism.  Just like N. Korea, everyone must applaud the corruption.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:06 | 3631858 crazyjsmith
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Terrorist=Hate us for our freedoms

US Gov't=Hate us for our freedoms


a=b c=b a=c

Simple Logic

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 16:52 | 3635228 Lost Word
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Obvious since Government attack on September 11, 2001.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:30 | 3632193 Jumbotron
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"It's really just a Commodore 64 in Joe Biden's basement."

LOL!!!  Made me snort !

That was my first computer in 1981.

Looks like he's all grown up !!!!  LOL !!!!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:46 | 3631768 Rahm
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Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:25 | 3632181 Go Tribe
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Fuck you U.S. Government!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:30 | 3632544 Anusocracy
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Followed shortly by the commenter being removed from his residence.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:48 | 3631783 squidward
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That's the idea though.  If everyone uses NSA keywords the system has too much to sort through.  It will be rendered useless or 100 million Amerikans will have to be put in FEMA camps.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:54 | 3631811 James_Cole
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They're way ahead of you unfortunately.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:48 | 3632035 ForTheWorld
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Ffffuuuuuucccckkk... Their presentation is so slick and corporate it's sickening.

"Our solutions have an impact on countless real-world problems in key industries"

Their solutions are for problems that didn't exist, but, like almost all innovation, it "solves" problems that don't exist.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:53 | 3632264 TheFourthStooge-ing
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PRISM tax evasion Christopher Stangl Stellar Wind raw milk Jon Corzine gyrotron Hooterville Monkey-Racing Track semtex Emile Autouri homeland gulag Signals Intelligence Directorate Julie Newmar Fort Meade thermobaric Hedy Lamarr terror Tim Osman bomb Farrah Fawcett mercurochrome anthrax Guantanamo shopping mall AIPAC gloryhole polonium Charles Nelson Reilly claymore mine Dirty Sanchez grenade launcher lutefisk IED assassinate Studebaker Hoch hijack Al Qaida Joyce DeWitt ricin SMERSH electromagnetic pulse Wink Martindale Hezbollah Federal Reserve CIA border Mossad Lady Gaga detonator Lemmiwinks Santorum calutron June Foray plutonium Juarez Bank for International Settlements Cayman Islands Netanyahu buttplug MANPADS nuclear trigger Cleveland Steamer crop duster Howard Cosell Forex Myrna Loy Fx Trading borax LMAX parrot and parakeet training tape International Monetary Fund carbuncle RPG clostridium Olde Frothingslosh ebola Joey Heatherton Dimona smuggle roachclip Butthole Surfers bongwater National Reconnaissance Office Don Rickles Backstreet Boys jimsonweed Edward G. Robinson steganography Lily Langtry Captain Beefheart 27B-6 Lee van Cleef kaopectate

Ooops, sorry. Mexican food and cheap beer and, well, you know how it goes.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:59 | 3632286 tip e. canoe
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Down Goes Frazier!

Down Goes Frazier!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:57 | 3632462 Herd Redirectio...
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Nice job sneaking in OBLs code name in there.

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