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Meet PRISM / US-984XN - The US Government's Internet Espionage Super Operation

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The disclosures involving this (and the prior) administration's Big Brother surveillance state, which would make Nixon blush with envy are now coming fast and furious (one wonders - why now: even that bastion of liberalism the NY Times, has turned against Obama). Although while the Guardian's overnight news that Verizon (and most certainly AT&T as well among others) was cooperating with the NSA on spying on US citizens, so far at least the internet seemed, if only to the great unwashed masses, immune. That is no longer the case following news from the WaPo exposing PRISM, a highly classified program, which has not been disclosed publicly before. "Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy." What PRISM does is to allow the NSA and the FBI to tap directly "into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time."

The secrecy is so deep we expect even the president himself may not know about it (but he does):

The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy.  Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.

Of course, PRISM is from the government, and it is here to help you. But the question is why are some of the biggest private companies explicitly collaborating with what is now the biggest exposed spying operation in history, companies which include such household names as Microsoft Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Yes, everyone's beloved Apple was added in October 2012: the NSA knows all about your music playlist, not to mention has a database of all your iMessages.

In other words, all those newly minted people known as corporations are in on it, but not: dear debt serf. It's a small club, and there is a multimillion liquid net-worth cutoff... and you are not in it. From WaPo:

An internal presentation on the Silicon Valley operation, intended for senior analysts in the NSA’s Signals Intelligence Directorate, described the new tool as the most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief, which cited PRISM data in 1,477 articles last year. According to the briefing slides, obtained by The Washington Post, “NSA reporting increasingly relies on PRISM” as its leading source of raw material, accounting for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports.

 

That is a remarkable figure in an agency that measures annual intake in the trillions of communications. It is all the more striking because the NSA, whose lawful mission is foreign intelligence, is reaching deep inside the machinery of American companies that host hundreds of millions of American-held accounts on American soil.

 

The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley. They are listed on a roster that bears their logos in order of entry into the program: “Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.” PalTalk, although much smaller, has hosted significant traffic during the Arab Spring and in the ongoing Syrian civil war.

 

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the PRISM program appears more nearly to resemble the most controversial of the warrantless surveillance orders issued by President George W. Bush after the al-Qaeda attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Its history, in which President Obama presided over “exponential growth” in a program that candidate Obama criticized, shows how fundamentally surveillance law and practice have shifted away from individual suspicion in favor of systematic, mass collection techniques.

Spying on US citizens is "incidental"... kinda like killing thousands of women and children in drone raids is "collateral damage":

Even when the system works just as advertised, with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content. That is described as “incidental,” and it is inherent in contact chaining, one of the basic tools of the trade. To collect on a suspected spy or foreign terrorist means, at minimum, that everyone in the suspect’s inbox or outbox is swept in. Intelligence analysts are typically taught to chain through contacts two “hops” out from their target, which increases “incidental collection” exponentially. The same math explains the aphorism, from the John Guare play, that no one is more than “six degrees of separation” from any other person.

This is how the big corporations sleep at night:

Formally, in exchange for immunity from lawsuits, companies like Yahoo and AOL are obliged to accept a “directive” from the attorney general and the director of national intelligence to open their servers to the FBI’s Data Intercept Technology Unit, which handles liaison to U.S. companies from the NSA. In 2008, Congress gave the Justice Department authority to for a secret order from the Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Court to compel a reluctant company “to comply.”

In practice, there is room for a company to maneuver, delay or resist. When a clandestine intelligence program meets a highly regulated industry, said a lawyer with experience in bridging the gaps, neither side wants to risk a public fight. The engineering problems are so immense, in systems of such complexity and frequent change, that the FBI and NSA would be hard pressed to build in back doors without active help from each company.

Some "do lots of evil" by their customers. They just don't disclose it:

“Google cares deeply about the security of our users’ data,” a company spokesman said. “We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government ‘back door’ into our systems, but Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government to access private user data.”

Time to kill that Facebook profile... or be accidentally killed for being "of a terroristy persuasion" based on some NSA algo:

There has been “continued exponential growth in tasking to Facebook and Skype,” according to the 41 PRISM slides. With a few clicks and an affirmation that the subject is believed to be engaged in terrorism, espionage or nuclear proliferation, an analyst obtains full access to Facebook’s “extensive search and surveillance capabilities against the variety of online social networking services.”

And some more charts:

Introducing the program

A slide briefing analysts at the National Security Agency about the program touts its effectiveness and features the logos of the companies involved.

Monitoring a target's communication

This diagram shows how the bulk of the world’s electronic communications move through companies based in the United States.

Providers and data

The PRISM program collects a wide range of data from the nine companies, although the details vary by provider.

In retrospect, it is sad what a farce this country has become: artificial market, centrally-planned economy, pervasive spying on the people, a tax collector that target political enemies, an administration that openly lies under oath...

If we didn't know better we would say this was 1955 Stalingrad, although Stalingrad at the height of totalitarianism was for amateurs. This is next level shit: "Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. “They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer said."

 

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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:44 | 3632713 Meat Hammer
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+1 for Joyce DeWitt and Wink Martindale.

Tic Tac Dough and Three's Company on the black and white TV with rabbit ears..........a good way to grow up.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:27 | 3632186 IndyPat
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I've had an idea for an app or plug in that would automatically enter an antonym search phrase back channel for every search you do. I also think an app,that would do timed randomized searches by parcing a txt file of your choice.
The idea being to piss in their data stream on you. You PC could "rehabilitate" your footprint using unused processor cycles...or just dump tons of useless and random searches into the gaping maw. Kinda like a resistance version of that corny SETI project....
If anyone here codes, take the idea and run with it. Just give me a shout when it's done so I can snag a copy.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:05 | 3632482 TheReplacement
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Sorta like adding: "I am not an Allah fearing terrorist planning to bomb the WhiteHouse and kill the President" to every post and email but in an automated fashion?

If only everyone would do that.  Of course, not being Muslim might get me on a list.  I don't wanna be on the list.  Actually, screw the list.  Screw the NSA and FBI.  They can all go to hell for this unconstitutional abuse of power and dereliction of duty to uphold and protect the Constitution.  

It is rather ironic that both the terrorists and the government are targeting innocent Americans.  Kinda makes you wonder how that worked out.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:49 | 3631790 freewolf7
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I love everybody.
Unless you'd like me not to.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:02 | 3631842 GetZeeGold
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Sometimes you have to love others with a 2 x 4.

It points out their bad behavior and puts them on the right path.....now that's love.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:30 | 3632197 IndyPat
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Ah, honey...Big Sister loves you too!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:06 | 3632486 TheReplacement
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Do you love everybody long time by any chance?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:59 | 3631832 B2u
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We are the Borg.  Resistance is futile.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:16 | 3632344 spankfish
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If we now know about PRISM... how much further down the road are they?  PRISM 3.0?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 11:02 | 3633703 Fox Moulder
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We will all soon find out about the other new Government program for everyone - PRISN.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:43 | 3631767 Banksters
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Conspiracy theorists are crazy, cough....

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:46 | 3631778 mc_LDN
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TOTALLY!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:53 | 3631809 freewolf7
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What's on tv? *click*
Ah, better...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:32 | 3631983 Oldballplayer
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Soma coma

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:25 | 3631952 Go Tribe
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Hey NSA, I've fallen and I can't get up!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:45 | 3632244 Buck Johnson
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That career intelligence officer knew how powerful this and other systems where and he knew that it was against the law.  I bet anything they are going hard knose to find out who leaked this information.  I've always hated that google bought youtube.  For you to be able to use your youtube account you must have an email account.  Then when you have that if you use google in the corner it says your signed in with that email account, so they can track you.  Of course they say that you can opt out but that doesn't stop them from tracking you anyway.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:51 | 3632447 Al Gorerhythm
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"Only someone with something to hide are afraid of the truth". Barry O.

What else you got hiding behind your Oath and Office there, Barry?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:58 | 3632726 Wile-E-Coyote
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Skynet can go fuck itself.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:35 | 3631733 Rahm
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Hey NSA, look through your prism at my fuckin nutsack!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631755 Top_Kill
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God Damn, if I could give this 10,000 up arrows I would!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:43 | 3631764 yogibear
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How many NSAers are boondoggling and surfing porn sites?  The TSAers look really bored when walking through the airport. 

I knew of one government worker that was sitting in his truck drinking.

Really, their working? I didn't know too many that actually did work.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:53 | 3632054 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"I knew of one government worker that was sitting in his truck drinking.

Really, their working? I didn't know too many that actually did work."

Correct, I suggest we call them employees, not workers!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:53 | 3632057 seek
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NSA is largely hardcore IT geeks. Yes, they're working. Though I doubt the guys that do the work actually are allowed to see the end products it produces, since that would probably result in an insane level of whistleblowing.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:00 | 3632466 Herd Redirectio...
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Isn't there a scene in Good Will Hunting to this effect?  I haven't seen it, so I'm no authority.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 04:17 | 3632805 jvetter713
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Yes there is...and please go watch the movie.  Fantastic movie.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:00 | 3633011 francis_sawyer
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Yeah... Here it is... Oh wait!

~~~

"You know, I was on this plane once. And I'm sittin' there and the captain comes on and he does his whole, "We'll be cruising at 35,000 feet," then he puts the mike down but he forgets to turn it off. Then he turns to the copilot and goes, "You know, all I could go for right now is a fuckin' blow job and a cup of coffee." So the stewardess fuckin' goes bombin' up from the back of the plane to tell him the mic's still on, and this guy behind me goes, "Hey hon, don't forget the coffee!""

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:23 | 3632632 WillyGroper
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A bit like the blackout jackets for lightening bugs at Oakridge.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:35 | 3632215 IndyPat
Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:24 | 3631950 ghandi
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I had the rodents looking into my asscrack when I wnet on a camping trip to see my ol' friend.

 

Do not go to campgrounds in VA! If you do, watch out for the new chapparal RV with the retired from military sticker.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:54 | 3632588 lead salad
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I'm laughing through my tears.....

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:36 | 3631734 reTARD
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Will it help me write Fed Statements or Op-Ed's?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:37 | 3631736 taraxias
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So?

- Dick Cheney 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:03 | 3631848 freewolf7
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Dick Cheney is so 2007.
At least Cheney looked evil.
Obama can drone a kid and smile like a heart surgeon that's gonna save your wife's life. Now there's a good criminal.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:54 | 3632454 Al Gorerhythm
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"What difference does it make?"

-Hillary Clinton.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:03 | 3632477 Herd Redirectio...
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Apparently justice and empathy are unfamiliar concepts to Hillabedin (or is that Humarry?)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:37 | 3631737 SheepleLOVEched...
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Freedom and democracy? This is the complete opposite.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:56 | 3632457 Al Gorerhythm
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Democracy has very little to do with Liberty or freedom, Sheeply old pal. Just ask the other half of voters.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631740 mjorden
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If only there was a way for us to collectively act together and demand change.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:52 | 3631787 lakecity55
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There is.

But, why is this coming out now?

Could it be, the Trap is Sprung and they no longer care?

Get Ready to Rumble?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:22 | 3632161 Raynja
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i think there are basically three possibilities as to why this and all the other -gates have opened recently

1. big brother doesn't care, its too late

2. big brother is pushing beyond where their minions with even some conscience can sit quietly

3. the chinese are releasing info they collected to create civil strife in america so when the chinese make their play on the south china sea the us will be too busy with problems at home to do anything about it

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631741 King_Julian
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Got a warrant? No? Then fuck off!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:40 | 3631752 spankthebernank
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don't need one.  That's the problem.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:00 | 3631837 Seize Mars
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A judge is just a lawyer. A lying, bullshitting, corrupt scumbag lawyer. So you thing that if a "judge" signa a "warrant" that the police are justified in coming into your life? WRONG.

Warrant or no warrant I don't give a fuck.

Oops! My keystrokes are being watched! Oh Noooo!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:26 | 3631958 King_Julian
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True, however a slight deference to the rule of law would be nice. We aren't too far from Gulag Archipeligo at the moment. They just found a way to make the camp "free range." There is little that isn't justifiable at this point to defend your remaining freedom. Good luck to you all.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:55 | 3632060 Mad Mohel
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LOL, a warrant, that's so 20th century of you. You are in the future. Now spread your cheeks and lift your sack!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 00:11 | 3632609 TheMeatTrapper
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Got a warrant? No? Then fuck off!

In real life that'll get you knocked to the ground, cuffed and an MP-5 stuck in your ear. Kiddie porn will then be found in your computer, and bomb making materials like Drano and Clorox will be found under your sink.

You will be forced to mortgage your home to retain an attorney. Your reputation will be ruined. You will not be allowed to present evidence in your defense, and you will be judged by a jury of Brawndo drinkers who are extremely pissed off because you made them miss the latest episode of Dancing With the Retards. 

Watch this extremely disturbing video. Cop Threatens to Execute CCW Holder

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:35 | 3632847 AKrandy
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That's weird, it won't let me give you an upvote??

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:44 | 3634167 Rusty Shorts
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WTF???????

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631742 francis_sawyer
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Whenever I can't find my truck keys or the TV remote I just call NSA...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631760 nmewn
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lol...(strolling through a grocery store)..."Hey stockboy, my cell phones dead, can you call the NSA and find out what my wife told me to get on the way home? I got the milk but there was something else."

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:31 | 3631981 GetZeeGold
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If they want to know what was said in the phone calls and emails during Benghazi......why don't they just as the NSA?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:43 | 3632019 nmewn
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;-)

Good point.

Believe me, since this ScandalRama began I've been thinking about "Why all this now?" Everyone has known about this crap...the bugging...the IRS going after TP etc.

Its all leading back to Benghazi...the CnC was AWOL that night and no one is asking where he was and what he was doing while the attack was in progress.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:01 | 3632087 lakecity55
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It would be too embarrassing to reveal it was either sex with live girls or dead boys.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:05 | 3632484 Herd Redirectio...
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Or that he simply isn't the 'Decider in Chief'.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:40 | 3632567 tsx500
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...or that he was playing dick-tag in the oval with Reggie & Eric

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 08:09 | 3633035 francis_sawyer
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My favorite is when you're watching golf on TV... They like to show off all the fancy "shot tracker" software which graphically illustrates the flight & curve of the ball as well as take off velocity, spin ratio, from a satellite in fucking outer space...

Then ~ someone gets to a water hole and hooks one into the drink... About a dozen officials, caddies, & golfers spend a half hour in a pow wow trying to figure out where the ball crossed the hazard line [for the drop], while the announcers in the booth are narrating the fucking RULES OF GOLF...

I'm like... TURN ON THE FUCKING SHOT TRACKER YOU IDIOTS!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:04 | 3632668 Ineverslice
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

That would be the dozen brown eggs... oh yes, btw, no sex for you tonite.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:00 | 3632465 Al Gorerhythm
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At the rate that I type, those poor bastards must nearly fall asleep waiting for the idea to form.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631744 Silverhog
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Except ZH, I think they are a botanical blog, right?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631761 Dagny Taggart
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I was just thinking before long, the only private conversations I will have is with my plants.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:49 | 3631788 Dr. Engali
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You obviously didn't watch minority report then did you?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:58 | 3631826 Mrs. Cog
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I refer to my entire life before marriage as "pre-Cog"

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:02 | 3631844 Hulk
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We got to behave ourselves boyz, Mrs Cog now has an account!!! Fortunate for us, shes seems capable of only one sentence at a time !!!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:06 | 3631861 Dr. Engali
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She has had an account for a while and CD assures us that she is more than capable of holding her own.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:11 | 3631877 Hulk
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CogD held his own too, prior to Mrs Cog...

/ there I go...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:18 | 3631907 Cognitive Dissonance
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Beat me, whip me, make me write bad tripe. :)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:22 | 3631932 GetZeeGold
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You obviously didn't watch minority report

 

No, but I have noticed if you're a minority President...you can get away with damn near anything.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:16 | 3631898 Cognitive Dissonance
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You haven't been throughly dressed down until you've been addressed by Mrs. Cog. When she puts on her fighting face she's tougher than Mean Joe Greene on a bad day.

Thankfully she's kind enough to allow me to think that most of what she comes up with is my idea. True love at first bite. :)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:08 | 3631866 Cognitive Dissonance
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Too funny.

Mr. Cog was nothing until Mrs. Cog came into my life. Now it's all post-Cog from here. :)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:46 | 3632030 nmewn
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I know what you mean...if not for Mrs.N...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:06 | 3631862 George Washington
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Watch out ... they might talk.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3631931 Cognitive Dissonance
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My plants scream at me when I trim them back. Thankfully Mrs. Cog has taken over those duties for me.

<Good Mr. Cog, bad Mrs. Cog.>

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:26 | 3631959 Mrs. Cog
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All your radishes are belong to me.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:29 | 3631969 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yes Dear.

<Shit! Now I've pissed her off.>

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:58 | 3632284 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You know, if you let a few of them go to seed, they'll grow back in the spring.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:22 | 3632361 Cognitive Dissonance
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Mrs. Cog runs the garden. I run the sandbox. ;)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:59 | 3632078 Blano
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For some reason I first read that as "with my pants."

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631745 nmewn
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“They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer said."

?yeht nac rO

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:08 | 3631853 Aurora Ex Machina
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I intend to plead insanity. Or to do the reverse Broke-Back mountain.

 

 

And trust me: against the new flesh, we have real power. It's all psycho-inflicted mirror states; they shatter easily.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3631915 nmewn
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I'm certifiably insane, I've got the papers around here somewhere to prove it, signed by a certified quack ;-)

I think so too...they really have no clue.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:45 | 3632246 tip e. canoe
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It's all psycho-inflicted mirror states; they shatter easily.

that friday in weak-ass boston shoulda proved that to anyone with a critical eye.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:10 | 3635302 Lost Word
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Leonardo Da Vinci ?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:38 | 3631746 Jim B
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Police state?  1984?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:43 | 3631766 mc_LDN
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Worse I'm going to say. China vs US? Increasingly hard to tell the difference. At least the Chinese have tried revolutions.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:04 | 3631854 Jendrzejczyk
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Which one of us US Ciitezenisms will stand in front of the tank?

(I'm gettin' close to not giving a fuck for my freedom anymore if it saves it for our kids)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:07 | 3632312 Miffed Microbio...
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Stand up in front of the tank? I'm afraid it won't be me. Today the lab conversation was about who will be the next network food star ( some TV show I guess) and a sale on Coach purses at Nordstroms ($900 vs normally $1700!) I've decided they aren't worth dying for.

Miffed ;-)

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:14 | 3635310 Lost Word
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Al-CIA-da knows how to blow up tanks.

Plans Somewhere on the internet.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:41 | 3632010 Everybodys All ...
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Who among us is ready to stand in front of the tanks? It's time to stand up or shut up Which is it going to be?

I know where I stand. I've been calling this bastard out in the WH all along and obviously he's not alone.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:09 | 3632493 suteibu
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Maybe THIS is why China gave Google the boot...they didn't want the NSA collecting data on Chinese citizens.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:39 | 3631747 Overfed
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How did this get out? Dear Leader needs to crack down on some whistleblowers. /s

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:10 | 3631869 Melin
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So, they know every thought in our heads as we write them or they can't predict smoking undies and Boston bombings. 

Which is it?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:17 | 3635319 Lost Word
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Or Islamic hijackers with boxcutters.

Obviously they don't predict their own false flag attacks.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:39 | 3631748 DirkDiggler11
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These bastards make Orwell look like pacifist with a VW Bus ,a hookah, a fat QP of weed, and some hippie chicks to make love not war !

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:39 | 3631749 mc_LDN
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How very unsurprising. What is surprising is theyve been doing it so long with buy in from all our most used tech giants. I guess James Bamford was right all along. Now what? Its obvious our companys cant be trusted with our rights in any shape or form.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:40 | 3631750 Cognitive Dissonance
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I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover that the US government spies on its own citizens.

<"Sir, here is that report you ordered tracing Mrs. Cog's phone calls and Internet activity. That'll be $460 please.">

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:47 | 3631781 Hulk
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Hey CogD, have you seen Ann Barnhardt's video titled "the economy is going to collapse" ?

Best explanation of credit default swaps and associated financial shenanigans I have ever seen

Here's part 6 of the 8 part series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=4kLGOMQH3hk&NR=1

She is adament about cashing out one's retirement accounts before they are cypressed...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:52 | 3631797 Cognitive Dissonance
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8 part series? Really?

Sounds like Ann Barnhardt is just as verbose as Cognitive Dissonance. Maybe even more so. :)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:56 | 3631821 Hulk
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IMPOSSIBLE I TELL YOU, IMPOSSIBLE !!!!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 23:13 | 3632502 Herd Redirectio...
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I can only watch Ann Barnhardt for a few minutes at a time.  I just get too excited for some reason. LOL

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:02 | 3631845 King_Julian
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I bought two copies. She lays it out.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:48 | 3632897 PhilofOz
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I do like listening to this lady... very smart. I particuarly like her comment re Corzine... "Put the son of a bitch against a wall and shoot him with high powered rifles until he is dead." with a glare that is almost hypnotising for me. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631757 reTARD
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Idea forming..... Hint: You'll know which members of Congress knew about PRISM by seeing which ones are holding their tongues.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:21 | 3635335 Lost Word
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The members of the intelligence committees.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:41 | 3631759 Hulk
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2 people are spying on me !!!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:45 | 3631777 erg
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I got the same two Hulk. What a coincidence. I figured the best way to stop it was to click on it.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:48 | 3631784 Hulk
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LOL !!!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:34 | 3631944 GetZeeGold
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2 people are spying on me

 

It's actually much more....and they are reading your mind.

Pick a number -----> 1234

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did you choose 3?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:42 | 3631762 delivered
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In the late, great words of Lloyd Bridges from the movie Airplane, "It looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue". But oh yeah, the government already knows this don't they. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:42 | 3631763 Moneyswirth
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First person to blame this on the Democrats or Republicans only gets a kick to the nutsack.  This is a flagrant disregard of our liberties and invasion of privacy, and it's bipartisan.  This is merely a part of how empires decline.  

Thank you Clinton/Bush for setting the precedent, and thanks Obama for nailing the coffin shut.

Asshats.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:44 | 3631771 mc_LDN
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Yeah theres no diff anymore. Theyre all in it for themselves and theyre laughing at the idiots caught in a left vs right paradigm.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:47 | 3631782 Dr. Engali
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I blame it on libertarians. They're always up in people shit. .

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:54 | 3631817 nmewn
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lol...here's some Attorney General Eric Hoover to calm ya down...

"Attorney Gen. Eric Holder while testifying before a Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on the Justice Department's FY2014 budget refused to answer when Senator Mark Kirk (R-IL) asked if he knew whether federal agents had monitored the phones of members of Congress.

Holder answered that this hearing was not "an appropriate setting" for that topic. Sen. Kirk shot back, "The correct answer would be to say, 'No, we stayed within our lane, and I am assuring you we did not spy on members of Congress.'"

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/06/06/Holder-Refuses-To-Answer-If-Members-Of-Congress-Were-Spied-On

Freudian slip ;-)

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:07 | 3631838 Dr. Engali
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But it's okay if they spy on the rest of us plebes as long as they aren't spying on congress. Bastards each and every one of them.

I need a dose of inthemix96. Nobody swears as good as he does. Where has he been anyway?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:22 | 3631935 nmewn
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He seemed quite indignant didn't he?...lol...the noive of the man!

Don't know about inthemix96, ain't seen him around.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:00 | 3632727 Meat Hammer
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He was around today....throwing passionate f-bombs and c-missles like a good brit.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:23 | 3631936 Cobra
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#1. Read one of his rants this morning in which he put wonderful adjectives in front of a word I won't divulge in light of a lady present...

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:52 | 3632261 IndyPat
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His cussin skills remind me of the dad in a Christmas Story...
My dad worked in swear words as artist worked in oils....or something like that.
I'm a big fan of thoughtful cussing. I figure, if you aren't cussing, you ain't up on current events at all.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 01:38 | 3632704 Inthemix96
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I'm still here Doc,

Lurking and seething with directed rage.

These fuckers have no idea whats coming down the pike.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 02:03 | 3632729 Meat Hammer
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I think I speak for everyone when I say this...........when you're on a cuss-word-laden tirade I picture you exactly as your avatar looks and it makes me laugh even harder.

-says the guy with the Harry Caray avatar.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:53 | 3631804 FiatFapper
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What is it with americans proclaiming a 'disregard of our liberties', don't you get it?

The end goal is to fucking data-chip babies; humans will just be walking-talking commodities to be used/abused at the behest of the totalitarian blue-blooded lizards.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:39 | 3632001 edb5s
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Never has the (Carlin) quote "bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out" been more appropriate. 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:55 | 3632273 rubiconsolutions
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If we want to blame someone perhaps we ought to look ourselves squarely in the mirror. "We" bought into all the nonsense about how great america is and how benevolent government is when they shoved it down our throats in government school. We bought into how wonderful Lincoln was when in fact he was the very worst tyrant that this country ever elected. We bought into the notion that the constitution would protect us when in fact it was crafted by Hamilitonians to allow government to grow unchecked and unabated. We continue to support an electoral system that is corrupt and driven by filthy lucre. We continue to think our vote matters when it serves to provide "consent of the governed", a permission slip if you will to use and abuse us. We support government by allowing ourselves to be taxed directly via employers who are an extension of the IRS. We are to blame because every two years we re-elect the same old retreads to the house of representatives who pay lip service to their oath. We are to blame because the system allows a small percentage of voters to elevate some goon like Barack Obama to president. Not once but twice! We are to blame because that is what this country is all about, We....the....people.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:43 | 3631765 trillion_dollar...
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ATTACK WATCH

Just think about the fact that this was being done out in the open and nobody but Tea Party tinfoil hat wearers ever questioned it. 

Time to start linking DoJ, Obama campaign, IRS, OSHA, FBI, etc., etc. How far does this rabbit hole go?

Spying on Romney campaign? What about spying on congress?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:44 | 3631770 Wakanda
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Prison for PRISMers?

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:44 | 3631773 nonclaim
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" [...] but Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government [...]"

No, nope ... they use the front door and are always welcomed.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:04 | 3631774 lakecity55
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I for one welcome the National Socialist State and our Overlords.

 

Dear NSA, some ZH people have GOLD!

I had some too, but mine fell off my boat. Honest.

 

I also want t remind you NSA guys to contribute to Dick Obama's next campaign. I sent 5$ on August 10 last year, yeah, that receipt. Whew, I am glad you kept it.

What? I need to give MOar?

OK.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:45 | 3631775 Confundido
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A my grandpa used to tell me: A secret is for an odd number of people...and three are too many!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3631796 notquantumdum
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"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."

--Benjamin Franklin

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:45 | 3631776 Dr. Engali
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IB AmB typingB inB codeB fromB nowB onB. It'sB timeB forB theseB fuckersB toB dieB.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:36 | 3632219 Bear
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I got it, I got it you put a B at the end of each word ... I know they can use my services at the WH

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 22:25 | 3632370 forwardho
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That reads like a line from Bill Cosby's Old Weird Harold.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:46 | 3631779 enloe creek
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change you can BELIEVE in.

 or  Be LIEin

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:48 | 3631785 FiatFapper
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And anyone with nefarious intent will meet in a swimming pool and whisper in each others ear; try monitoring that you fucktards!

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:49 | 3631789 yogibear
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Maybe the Chinese will hack the NSA sites. They can then change their name to National Stupid Agency.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:49 | 3631791 MFLTucson
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Obama is the one with the father who was a communist, Obama is the one whose school records are sealed from the public, Obama is the one who denounces America every chance he has, Obama is the one who made sure the lunatic Muslim at Fort Hood was classified as work place violence, Obamas wife has a shady past of losing her law license, Obama is the one who has ruined the American economy and spent our money foolishly and he is snooping on me?  I do nothing but take care of my family, what the fuck is going on in this insane country?  Who the hell did you vote for a dictator or a President? 

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:10 | 3631868 lakecity55
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Since we are all going to get shot anyway,

FUCK YOU OBAMA

bring on your fucking dhs

WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW AMERICANS DIE

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 05:42 | 3632853 AKrandy
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Hey Lake City, can you get me a few thousand once fired 7.62, please???

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:35 | 3632214 Bear
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Bush did it

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 06:20 | 3632879 GetZeeGold
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Obama perfected it.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:50 | 3631794 pragmatic hobo
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We should do what Chinese people do and start writing backwards.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:54 | 3631816 Kirk2NCC1701
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Call my cynical, but... clearly the need/opportunity for new & private languages will grow -- given that there are plenty of desperate fluffers, ready to translate any obscure lingo for the Gov and affiliated NGOs.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3631795 Kirk2NCC1701
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Thanks a googleplex, "Do-No-Harm" Google!

Time to find alternatives for info exchange: carrier pigeons, runners, snail mail.  Or students in Africa, doing online research.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3631928 PC Load Letter
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Time to stock up on pencils and find myself a well trained pigeon

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 21:33 | 3632206 Bear
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You'll have to find one that can keep it's mouth shut

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3631798 Unknown Poster
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Susan Rice (nominated for NSA big-wheel) will now have tons of information to mislead with.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:03 | 3631846 yogibear
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"graduated with a BA in history in 1986"

iAwarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a MPhil in 1988 and DPhil in 1990. TheChatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.[5][11]

Wonderful!

She can help Bernanke, Evans, Dudley and Yellen on their US to Zimbabwe economic plan. She's comfortable with Zimbabwe.

We need another over-paid non-substance person. She can keep company with Valarie  Jarrett.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:28 | 3635361 Lost Word
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That is just the cover story.

The links are important.

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 19:55 | 3631805 Sabibaby
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The thing about this is that China is far superior to the US in hacking and data mining. If any of this could possibly be admissible in court -which it can't, you could always say China hacked the NSA. The buffoons at the NSA and other alphabet soup organizations in the US have no idea who they're helping. They've identified all US citizens as potential threats and pretty much ignored the sleeping dragon who creates all their chips and most likely writes the code. The idiots of said organizations have zero comprehension of blowback.  

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 20:11 | 3631879 Mr. Hudson
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I don't buy into the claim "China hacks into the Pentagon's computers". Israel steals our top secret stuff, and then sells it to the Chinese. When Americans discover that the Chinese have the same weapons systems as the U.S. the Zionist controlled government and press blame it on the "Chinese hackers".

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