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Meet PRISM / US-984XN - The US Government's Internet Espionage Super Operation
The disclosures involving this (and the prior) administration's Big Brother surveillance state, which would make Nixon blush with envy are now coming fast and furious (one wonders - why now: even that bastion of liberalism the NY Times, has turned against Obama). Although while the Guardian's overnight news that Verizon (and most certainly AT&T as well among others) was cooperating with the NSA on spying on US citizens, so far at least the internet seemed, if only to the great unwashed masses, immune. That is no longer the case following news from the WaPo exposing PRISM, a highly classified program, which has not been disclosed publicly before. "Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy." What PRISM does is to allow the NSA and the FBI to tap directly "into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time."
The secrecy is so deep we expect even the president himself may not know about it (but he does):
The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy. Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.
Of course, PRISM is from the government, and it is here to help you. But the question is why are some of the biggest private companies explicitly collaborating with what is now the biggest exposed spying operation in history, companies which include such household names as Microsoft Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Yes, everyone's beloved Apple was added in October 2012: the NSA knows all about your music playlist, not to mention has a database of all your iMessages.
In other words, all those newly minted people known as corporations are in on it, but not: dear debt serf. It's a small club, and there is a multimillion liquid net-worth cutoff... and you are not in it. From WaPo:
An internal presentation on the Silicon Valley operation, intended for senior analysts in the NSA’s Signals Intelligence Directorate, described the new tool as the most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief, which cited PRISM data in 1,477 articles last year. According to the briefing slides, obtained by The Washington Post, “NSA reporting increasingly relies on PRISM” as its leading source of raw material, accounting for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports.
That is a remarkable figure in an agency that measures annual intake in the trillions of communications. It is all the more striking because the NSA, whose lawful mission is foreign intelligence, is reaching deep inside the machinery of American companies that host hundreds of millions of American-held accounts on American soil.
The technology companies, which participate knowingly in PRISM operations, include most of the dominant global players of Silicon Valley. They are listed on a roster that bears their logos in order of entry into the program: “Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.” PalTalk, although much smaller, has hosted significant traffic during the Arab Spring and in the ongoing Syrian civil war.
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the PRISM program appears more nearly to resemble the most controversial of the warrantless surveillance orders issued by President George W. Bush after the al-Qaeda attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Its history, in which President Obama presided over “exponential growth” in a program that candidate Obama criticized, shows how fundamentally surveillance law and practice have shifted away from individual suspicion in favor of systematic, mass collection techniques.
Spying on US citizens is "incidental"... kinda like killing thousands of women and children in drone raids is "collateral damage":
Even when the system works just as advertised, with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content. That is described as “incidental,” and it is inherent in contact chaining, one of the basic tools of the trade. To collect on a suspected spy or foreign terrorist means, at minimum, that everyone in the suspect’s inbox or outbox is swept in. Intelligence analysts are typically taught to chain through contacts two “hops” out from their target, which increases “incidental collection” exponentially. The same math explains the aphorism, from the John Guare play, that no one is more than “six degrees of separation” from any other person.
This is how the big corporations sleep at night:
Formally, in exchange for immunity from lawsuits, companies like Yahoo and AOL are obliged to accept a “directive” from the attorney general and the director of national intelligence to open their servers to the FBI’s Data Intercept Technology Unit, which handles liaison to U.S. companies from the NSA. In 2008, Congress gave the Justice Department authority to for a secret order from the Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Court to compel a reluctant company “to comply.”
In practice, there is room for a company to maneuver, delay or resist. When a clandestine intelligence program meets a highly regulated industry, said a lawyer with experience in bridging the gaps, neither side wants to risk a public fight. The engineering problems are so immense, in systems of such complexity and frequent change, that the FBI and NSA would be hard pressed to build in back doors without active help from each company.
Some "do lots of evil" by their customers. They just don't disclose it:
“Google cares deeply about the security of our users’ data,” a company spokesman said. “We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government ‘back door’ into our systems, but Google does not have a ‘back door’ for the government to access private user data.”
Time to kill that Facebook profile... or be accidentally killed for being "of a terroristy persuasion" based on some NSA algo:
There has been “continued exponential growth in tasking to Facebook and Skype,” according to the 41 PRISM slides. With a few clicks and an affirmation that the subject is believed to be engaged in terrorism, espionage or nuclear proliferation, an analyst obtains full access to Facebook’s “extensive search and surveillance capabilities against the variety of online social networking services.”
And some more charts:
Introducing the program
A slide briefing analysts at the National Security Agency about the program touts its effectiveness and features the logos of the companies involved.
Monitoring a target's communication
This diagram shows how the bulk of the world’s electronic communications move through companies based in the United States.
Providers and data
The PRISM program collects a wide range of data from the nine companies, although the details vary by provider.
In retrospect, it is sad what a farce this country has become: artificial market, centrally-planned economy, pervasive spying on the people, a tax collector that target political enemies, an administration that openly lies under oath...
If we didn't know better we would say this was 1955 Stalingrad, although Stalingrad at the height of totalitarianism was for amateurs. This is next level shit: "Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. “They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer said."
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I think you have it backwards... Thinking the USA creates all technology and THEN Israel, China, India and whomever else obtains the technology then uses it is your fallacy. It is more the fact that the USA learns from Israel, China, and India.
What we have in the USA are a bunch of smart people and profiteers with no leash. They will develop things as innocents and provide cash believing the return is worthwhile but they have no knowledge of their actions and the repercussions that follow. Profit is the pinnacle of US achievement, not loyalty or patriotism.
The USA is a well-to-do family with parents who have no knowledge of the damage drugs do to their children. Believing their children are bright, precious, and mirror images of their self, they have no clue the things their children are introduced to. They are blinded by goodness and arrogant to the neighborhood they live in but their children know, they’re the ones being profited from.
You got it right I think. I think that was proven out back, when was it? .... Sept. 11 '01
Sounds like it requires a revolution to defeat it.
Let's see what a collapse does to it. It will come quicker, and it will happen spontaneously.
I think the song was right. Amish term of Shunting.
Gonna break it, gonna shake it, ... We forsake you ... Let's forget you better still.
Good luck convincing 75,000,000 people that they have to go to work.
"..the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues."
That is quite disgusting
It does explain Google Glass, though. NSA's eyes around the world.
Maybe its a typo? "...were bound by oafs in office, to hold their tongues"
In March, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper responded to a question from Senator Wyden. The DNI said that NSA does not wittingly collect any type of data on millions of Americans.
That appears to be a mis-statement. NBC News reported tonight that DNI Clapper now clarifies that he was talking about email and not phone calls. But whether it's emails or phone calls, it now appears to be a mis-statement.
Wyden: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?
DNI Clapper: No, sir.
Wyden It does not?
DNI Clapper: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect — but not wittingly.
http://news.yahoo.com/clapper-clarifies-remarks-over-nsa-snooping-155751214.html
Clapper's 'Not wittingly' is the tip off. He can always claim he is a dimwit making his 'not witting' statement accurate. Innocence by reason of dim-wittiness.
Yes, it can happen that the ex-NSA types -- now with affiliated NGOs -- 'might' (will!) collect this for them. It supplements their pension income from the US Treasury, as well as their 401k Income, Roth-IRA income and other investment incomes -- since they can't make money off books or the speaker circuit, like ex-politicians. We can't risk these people getting too destitute or desperate.
National Intelligence James Clapper
Is that a real name? Sounds more like National Lampoonish.
From my read, what Clapper stated constituites at the very least Perjury Oh thats right though, if you are gubermint its OK.
Does anyone have construction details for Flame Throwers? Milestones
nope, but i got a nice recipe for blowdart poison.
no death, just a 24 hours of complete incapacitation and a trip to see the elves.
Do you barter?
most definitely, got any apes?
Echelon Spy system :
American Gov collects British people data for the British Gov.
British Gov collects American people data for the American Gov.
Time to break out the torches and pitchforks and.......wait, Mad Men is on. Lemme go warm up my Hot Pockets.
Call me cynical, but I always assumed if the government could do this kind of monitoring, they would -- regardless of what they say. Yet, there was no doubt about whether they could do it, technically speaking.
“No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up.”
--Lily Tomlin
I love the NSA and our central planning overlords. I live to see the state grow. I am just a cog in the great and mighty......
Fuck I just through up in my mouth a little bit.
Fuck you NSA and your little Kenyan scumbag "leader" yeah that's you Obama!
See you all later at FEMA camp six boys and girls. It's been nice knowing you.
I would suspect "they" don't care too much about 99% of the internet content. Far better to focus on the rest of the government. How much of this information is used to "guide" congress, the courts and yes o'Bambi himself.
I don't see ZH on the list of 'providers' ... so we all safe here
Yep. Safe as kittens.
What is a safe search engine that the Feds can't pry into?
pssst. buddy.
google dot com
Tor + DuckDuckGo, but if they've already tunneled into your machine then they can see your desktop as you work anyways. The only chance is to be somewhere where you can have access to a computer where they can't physically place "you" behind the screen.
Cover the fucking built-in spy camera before you walk in front of the thing. No shit they actually hack the camera and can identify your face using smart technology.
Be careful out there.
Right click on some of the ads here. Check into the Flashplayer settings.
A tad freaky to see your every breath recorded through the mic setting. What can they do with the camera?
Disable the mic. Tape over the camera..
https://ixquick.com/eng/?
Try the Yellow Pages
But, then, not the phone.
And, you probably shouldn't go in public or the drones will see you.
"out in public"
Depending on one's goal, hiding in plain sight may be the best strategy, but unless you take measures to ensure they don't know what to look for or where to look, the benefit will be marginal.
ixquick is a proxy search engine that give you google results without keeping a record of you searches. That's assuming they are legit and honest and not (as some have claimed) a CIA front organization.
Google is fine. My last search was for Gallstones. I got all the info I needed . Its official. I have gallstones and a bad gallbladder to boot. Now I'm really really really worried. My next search will be a funeral home for myself. It's been real.
It's not that bad. Your gallbladder will sieze like a bagpipe if you hit it with lots of oily fatty foods. If you can limit your fat intake you can mitigate some of the pain. Anything that stimulates bile production will cause your gallbladder to hurt. Of course every doctor on the planet will tell you that it's evil and it needs out. Don't try the quacky Hulda Clark liver flush either. The thought of passing a 10 mm stone through a 5 mm bile duct is laughable.
My doctor told me that high protien diets like the atkins diet fostered the production of gall stones, I don't really believe him though since just about everyone in the family has had gall bladder problems. Any time you visit the doctor though they'll ghost clutch at your right side and make grabbing motions like a zombie and say like bella lugosi, "Eeeet neeedz to comeee out!" That being said if it's really bad and inflamed/infected it may need to. But if it's just an occasional thing I'd look into experimenting with diet first. I dealt with the pain for almost two years before I relented to the butchers.
Good luck.
Make a tea out of flax meal & drink it all day. Will give relief.
Startpage or duckduckgo
The real question would seem to be, does the NSA just encrypt it all and wait for someone with a warrant before they decrypt the selected portions, or . . . ?
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WHY NOW INDEED!!!
This is *so* ridiculous. Come on. Did you really think Phil Zimmermann wrote Pretty Good Privacy for nothing? Learn to encrypt everything to make listening to it all expensive by hiding the needles in a stack of needles. Stop using Skype, use Google or AOL or ICQ (or preferrably your own servers) but learn to use end-to-end encryption tools.
And where is the difference between Facebook selling everything they know to some company or other or selling it to the government?
noses.
The difference would seem to be that the government probably doesn't pay for the data, and no one has signed a consent agreement for the government to have the data when they click "I agree" right after not reading the "contract."
I guess that's not much of a difference.
Hitler blushes and stalin is green with envy.
I think the US Government just declared succession from We the People?
secession*
http://kdvr.com/2013/06/06/rural-county-commissioners-discuss-seceding-f... like this
They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,
Great now we have a mostly cash only society and are soon to have a return to snail mail. What will they think of next.
Idiots.
Cash is going to be printed out of existence. Digital currencies will be the final nail.
"They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type"
Everything I say is a lie.
I am lying.
Hey, it worked for Capt. Kirk.
Tylers, You guys really outdid yourselves in today's postings.
Small request: Can you please publish an Ecryption Guide, or list of Best Links? Thanx.
PRISM is child play when copared to Echelon or Stellar Wind.
PRISM is more like smoke and mirrors.
I bet the Echelon dudes can make better looking PowerPoints. Aesthetically, these suck. Maybe Apple could help 'em out?
Powerful urge to snoop? Theres an app for that! :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NarusInsight
¿Well at least we can rest assured that Zerohedge isn't a false flag operation set up by a convicted inside trader as part of a plea bargain to keep out of club fed.
¿Its not like they require tracking cookies to access the site.
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President Obama named Susan Rice as his national security adviser.
There goes anything that was left of the word "security".
No worry, it will turn into on huge Diversity party organization. Like Eric the Place Holder turned the Just-Us department into a joke.
She's mainly there to ensure that Israel gets full access to all U.S. intel.
Like that bible story about the whore, Susan Rice washes the Israelis' feet, then dries them with her hair.
Traitor bitch ...
Makes one wonder how/when they will try and gain total control.
I'd say they pretty much have already. I'll see y'all in the camps! I can make some mean potato vodka from a broken water heater still....i'll be the bitch of the bunch.
I'd say we as a group are too contrarian.
Nope, I think we will really all be shot.
However, NSA, just know this: I am an American. I will never lift my hand first in violence.
But when you come after me for doing NOTHING more than wanting to live a free life and love my family, I will kill you. I will kill as many of you as I can before you kill me.
You trained me, dot guv, you were happy when I and how I killed Charlie. Now you deal with the blowback motherfuckers.
You guys are all the same, you sit in your offices while better men die. You start this shit and I promise you, you have no idea what you are in for.
Lakecity55:
Just remember, "Front Towards Enemy"
In this case, Front Towards Washington DC ...
Lakecity55
My uncle is a VN vet...says the first ones a freebie when you snap. I used to wonder what he meant by that.
Iridium: +1 for distillation. I can malt and brew beer from barley ("gruit" in the absence of hops, it's like pre-distilled [watered-down] scotch).
Let me know your camp number. I'll behave really mild mannered at first, and then raise some hell and get a transfer to your digs.
I actually cannot distill, but I can lift heavy shit and make for excellent medical testing. I imagine I will last a few years tops in "re-education". I just would like to have a picture of my wife and child so i may have that itty bitty ounce of strength to last a few extra months, painfully.
Taters are starchy and idk what (if any) diastatic power they have on their own and at what temperatures (in water). Unless a real pro weighs in here, you'll have to do some homework on how to convert/breakdown those tater starches into fermentable sugars (yeast eat sugars, not starches, and produce alcohol) -- obviously there are ways, but barley's my domain. Apologies if you're already familiar with this...
Basically, find a way to convert the taters' starch to sugar, reduce the heat on your sugary mixture to room temp, add a packet of brewer's yeast, and wait a few weeks (month or two? A hydrometer will tell you how well you're doing). You'll at least get 10-13% alcohol from the yeast alone, but that'd still be watered down if you're aiming for vodka. At that point, distillation via a still is what gets it into that 30-40% range. (Save the yeast culture, which is usually a layer of crud on the bottom of your holding vessel, for new batches -- they can generally be re-used several times over before mutation creates off-flavors.)
If you can easily get something else sugar-rich like honey, just boil it (and skim the goo off the top), cool it down to room temp, and add yeast -- in a short while you get mead.
Ultimately, if you wanna make alcohol you do this: have a $2 packet of "dry" ale/champagne yeast handy, find a sugar source, suspend it in water at the proper temperature(s), boil it down, cool it to room temp, introduce the yeast, shake it up (aeration is good for kickstarting yeast) and wait. You'll get something drinkable whether you use malted barley, grapes, honey, taters, agaves, etc. Just research your temperature control and sanitize everything.
Best I can do, man.
I can help with E85 Ethanol. However, I don't have the toxic additive to make it un-potable. Sorry...
Something stinks. This is cover for something else. Why is this all being exposed now?
Many of us remember (seems like 10 years ago) about the whistle blower in Frisco about the the room of swiches going to the NSA. It "Been in the light" so to speak.
At some point they have to get to the point where they have to have You collectively and officially acknowledge that they are doing it to you. From that point you are a willing participant and less likely to flinch.
It's Just a progression down the gant chart. Timelines seem to be quickened, or rushed.
My bet is setting the ground work for 2015.75 ish(M. Armstrong turning point) and possible collapse of the monetary system or war. K-Winters are a cold bitch.
It's where we have been heading, but it seemed to have quickened in the pace.
Sometimes that leads to mistakes. Sometimes they leave a slip showing(record those real early news casts before the 'Line' has been constructed) and sometimes things go boom.
Watch closely.
Because totalitarianism doesn't work unless people are afraid of the state. Afraid of what they know and what they can do to you.
What is the point of a DoomsDay device, if you don't let your enemies know about it?
Is this why ZH relocated their servers to Switzerland? Nice cover with the "racial discrimination" notice. ;-)
The server move happened years ago, and wasn't connected with the discrimination. It was connected to not being under US jursidiction.
I just logged in to inform the robot scooping through this page that I am a docile citizen and the only reason I'm here is to try and bring agitative elements to their senses.
Don't Drone Me Bro'
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Watching: "The Voice", "Keeping up with the Kardashians","Mr. Selfridge"
Owns_and_Wears: Snuggie
Don't worry, all this monitoring is for your protection. Government agencies (like the IRS) are totally non-partisan and would never use the information to target people based on their political beliefs.
I know some people who have cameras in their homes that they can view from their cellphones. How can I get a job as an NSA information analyst?
The NSA twerps are probably watching adult entertainment from home cameras.
It's simple to work for the NSA. Just obtain a top degree from one of the top universities in the world in electrical engineering with a focus on computer sciences or information theory. And, pass their security clearance process.
If you do this, you're in there if you don't otherwise offend their government politics somehow.
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I was hoping someone had this laying around.
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Hello Prism and thank you for visiting this nice economics site.
fucker.
They can look all they want in my case.
I have nothing worth taking........today. Nothin. Broke as a joke.
And by the time I do, this whole thing will be bankrupt and gone, and we'll have a lot more pressing shit to worry about.
I'm young enough to expect to see the end of this. And the end of this is when I will make my mark. Look all you want today. I ain't doing shit right now. Nothin. Clean as a fucking whistle. I don't have to lift a fucking finger beyond the daily effort to pay my own bills (and taxes! Even with my help, you're all fuckin' doomed). I'll outlast this shit.
@Aurora Ex Machina: I got back to you.
Amazing we have such a spread wtih talent and lack of in government...obviously all the modeling and algorithm sleuths are working here at PRISM or for one of their government contractor companies...here's yet another related story about Verizon...SAP wants to broker and spice up the consumer data that Verizon is going to sell and split the profits...it never ends..
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/06/so-much-money-and-profit-in-data....
According to Brit J. Of Psych, 2005:
5 of 6 people with IQ - 145 are male.
3 of 4 people with IQ - 130 are male.
Females can't separate throughts from feelings to save their ass.
God Better Bless the US Military.
With a large standard deviation I would guess. There's a lot of male knuckle draggers out there.
It's always the individual variation that's amazing. The Gross generalities don't help sometimes. It's a fact with misleading conclusions.
Like "The majority of accidents are within xx miles from your home" then conclude you are more careless around your home, instead of also realizing that's where you spend 90% of your life possibly.
Boy this really reminds me of last year's article on this:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-far-turnkey-totalitarian-state-big-brother-goes-live-september-2013
And to think September is not too far off.
Good work Tyler.
Oh, fuck it. I'm going to get crucified (literally) for this (last time it was death or being anally raped by barbed wire, there's been a few) but:
I sold a $4 million property to <redacted group> a while back, and there were a lot of old military Quonset huts on it (half cylinders, they're made out of sheet tin and not much else, we used them for storing machinery). On sale, one of the <redacted> younger and more stupid ones let loose "you could fit a lot of bunkbeds in here". They spent roughly $7 mil on the project, but there's no clients, and since I know the business, there's no way they have made money in the last >4-2< years. If I was a smart bear, I'd research how Wall-E the Market Place Builder has invested in Xe (new name) education facilities.
In September, it closes to the public, and they don't seem bothered. <Redacted group> may or may not be linked to Wall-e and an Arabian market, but they basically said: After September, we don't need <redacted> type clients.
Stay Frosty. I don't happen to mind the brands of extremism here, it's all multiplicity. I only care if you're fast, evolved and adaptive.
And I hate farmed meat.
Blackwater Part Duex and Walmart? Walgreens? Fat post human cartoons? Holy shit. I struggle like a madman to follow your posts as of late, because I know,from the less cryptic ones that you definately have thoughts worth reading.
I'm not a dense person, but if you would...kindly...sketch this one one more time. Just a few more breadcrumbs on the trail...Shoot for translucent...I'm not asking for transparent.
cannabilism, soylent green, "to serve man" it's a cookbook.
speaking of education facilities...or is entertainment?
Thanks for the repost of that article. It reads even more ominious this time around. Milestones
I have not flown my flag for many years. I wish I could be proud and fly it again but there is a good possibility I'll never get the chance. Crony, Fascist, welfare/spy/police/war State. Don't expect me to go anywhere that the National Anthem is playing either. I refuse to show respect. Ill go the the bathroom and take i piss if I have to. Wish I had money and could go some place where they don't read my mail and listen to my phone calls. I'd be so fucking out of here.
Glad I don't use ANY of those vendors. Try harder, fuckstains.
We're all Zerohedgers now. Got yur bag on?
Hey NSA, can you hear me now? Good! FUCK YOU!!!
Rotten shame kids go to war, get disabled and fight for this. It's not about freedom anymore, it's about fighting for tyranny now.
So, when I lose my phone and get a new one I can just ask the NSA to rebuild the data? I don't have to post one of those dorky "new phone, hit me up" messages on Facebook? Sweet.
To think, I was worried about backing up my computer!
Short Carbonite.
Is there someone we can call? You know to like report this and tell them to stop?
Yeah. It's call the National Do Not Bug Me list. If you call 888 SPIESRUS they'll put your name and number on a list for you.
Relevant articles from today on this:
NSA taps in to internet giants' systems to mine user data, secret files reveal
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
Documents: U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data...
The shit is finally hitting the fan in rapid order. Think anything will actually be done? Here's what I think they'll do, same as they've ever done - they'll "abandon" the programs by moving them to different offices of responsibility and renaming them.
Repeal the Patriot act and NDAA while we are at it for starters then drop warrantless wiretapping. If all this data mining is so fucking useful they should be able to predict crime and find it sideways and prevent things like the Boston Marathon bombing if it was so fucking effective.
Did it occur to others that maybe we are going about this TERRORIST thing assbackwards? Invite some of them into the country, point them in the right direction and let them do what we the Mericans don't have the balls or brains to do; kill off these bastards in the banks and gubermint.
Different point of view. Milestones
Excuse to retaliate.
Crap like this is just the death rattles of an insanely paranoid power structure cracking under it's own weight and soon to be swept away forever.
Election time is house cleaning time. No more Democrats, no more Republicans, independents and libertarians only. Time for a third party now.
Elections unfortunately have little impact on this problem unless we demand drastically smaller government. Whole agencies need to be shuttered and that that will not happen with elections imo.
Yes it does actually if you stack the government with enough libertarian minded people on all sides of the aisle. They don't have to be card carrying libertarians just ones like tea party types that aren't co-opted (see Marco Rubio as a RINO in Tea Party clothing), Ron Wyden is a good example on the D side of the aisle but vet their backgrounds closely who is contributing money to them who they hang out with, what their education background and prior work history is..... What happens is they just refuse to fund things if there is enough of them O if someone hasn't removed him from office or the earth by that time can veto all he wants as long as it can be over rode.
Represented by a well vetted neighbor that understands the American people, not a compromised dual citizen on the Hill that only represents their special interest lobbyist pushing policy they don't even understand for a buck.
Allen West of all people reported 67% of this Administrations appointments are active members of the Communist party. So you see? This ends badley Soviet style.
Land of the fleeced, home of the slave.
Your gunna feel all that love in Obama care.. He does care you know? All meded up by big pharma scripts to be cured of your Patriotism and to rid you of your Nationalistic tendencies That's where their going with this.
Are there more doctors on board to handel the new influx of millions of new customers being rolled into this centralized health care system?
Are they building more doctors offices and Hospitals to meet the new volume of patients? I didn't think so... But Haliburton build some new accomodations around the nation.
For the greater good.. He just hasn't described his definition of what he considers "good".
Having studied the Third Reich for most of my life, I can report what we have now is a duplicate reich, but equipped with today's technology.
Since there is no "Allied Expeditionary Force" coming to rescue us, we will have to become Maquis and do it the hard way, but it can be done.
The Vietnamese did it, and the Afghans are doing it right now.
The most useful weapons are comedy and monkey wrenches.
And to expand on your well founded lesson in history.
MIC placed our Congress on notice with their new war doctrine relieving them of any further oversight or need for future funding. And I quote.. The battlefield is anywhere they discover the "enemy" from Boston to the Fatah. Meaning the battlfeield is wherever they say it is. America to be considered a Battlefield is stated in NDAA1867. Real nice huh?
They privatised all Military arms under a universal flag I would guess is NATO? Just take down the American flag and raise the Jolly fucking Rodger.
No allegiance to any flag, just policy and orders. I will find the link or just search those terms. It's been a Corporate war for profit MIC. They just went on record and proved we do not have a represenative governance, we have agents employed by a Corporation based in the District of Columbia registered in the state of Delaware as such operating autonomous of the surrounding 50 states. Look it up.
Found the link.
http://sgtreport.com/2013/05/sgt-report-unbound-proof-the-u-s-govt-has-f...
Only in the Land Of The Free /sarc... Thanks to NY Senator Joe 'Stugots' Griffo, who sponsored Bill S.2402, it would make be a felony to “harass, annoy, or threaten a police officer while on duty.” So make sure (s)he's off-duty.
[sing to New York, New York]: "New York, New York.. I want no part of it, NY, NY..."
The Germans have a comparable law: "Amtsbeleidigung" which outlaws insults toward any civil servant, not just cops. You can't even give someone The Finger, while driving -- Reckless traffic endangerment with provocation. You may have to resort to (other) Italian gestures.
THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON!
And it only cost about $100,000, the approximate dollar cost to them to carry out 9/11.
Well, they hated us for our Freedoms.. I see a beer summit in the near future?
Don't know if they have won, but none appear to have have been busted as a consequence of all these endeavors.
Agree!
Bugger off NSA!
Exactly, fly two airplanes and then watch the USA implode
Kinda, but now quite, they were cheap assess and there was no planes at all, just images of planes. Outsourcing and digital is considerable cheaper and less risky compared to flying actual jets. Biggest joke was on us, they went with "two planes brought WTC down" when in fact it was the watered down "no planes brought WTC down". Evil but clever...
havent usa been in a state of national emergency since atleast 1979
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioh9jGAk-g8&feature=player_embedded#at=191
when the stream split
the left fork was peace and prosperity with Iraq buying a million us made cars a year for ten years, the right fork was 10 years plus of war and dick cheney becoming incredibly wealthy with Haliburton running the Iraq war ops.
from the secondperson arrested under the patriot act, imprisioned for 5 years but never tried for any crimes and a white woman to boot.
Susan Lindauer
NSA: We're your friends. We're not like the others, man, really.
ZH: No more of that talk or I'll put the fucking leeches on you, understand?
NSA: Heh heh heh...
With all that fucking survellience they couldn't catch 2 19 year olds with a bunch of crockpots who left a digital trail prior to bombing the Boston Marathon a mile long............
We are so fucked with an apathetic public and 3 ring clown circus of digital intelligence that justifies shitting all over the US Constitution in the name of 'national security'. Just to remind the moral types in the military, you are only the tip of the spear, when the government goes rogue so do you by default, remember that before you pull triggers when we roll out the guillotines and AR-15s.......... It is truely getting that close to the final solution. We got one Congressional election left to start moving in the right direction then all bets are off. Just remember we aren't doing it because we want to overthrow but restore the Republic and rule of law and order back in line with the US Constitution.
You assume they wanted to catch them.
That is not the point here. But as media finally wakes up and keeps going deeper down the rabbit hole they will find that out also. My point is still valid the amount of survellience is not justified considering them kids put a memorial page on facebook about the Boston Bombing early in the morning before the marathon even started. Facebook a site who gives it up to PRISM there.....
Let's stick with the facts that are out there for the people in the matrix for the moment.
Facebook page prior to bombing about the bombing
PRISM monitors facebook
bombing still happens
Everyone can draw their own conclusions..........
We need to come up with a secret ZH handsign so when we are all in the FEMA camps we can identify each other, who wants to volunteer to play Steve McQueen.
Of course it's not justified. I get you duality in meaning, but at the basic level of all this is the fact that they already knew what,where,when,how,why becuase they probably recruited them to do it. i.e. false flag.
you want your hand sign..? well, ttere's only one phraze here that will persist beyond time. I'll know you're a ZH'er when I hear it out of your mouth.
Yes and proper response would be fuck you Bernanke.
Exactly.
They needed a beta test of their new DHS Killing Machine.
You assumed there were bombs (even of the crackpot type), bombers and terrorists (and victims for that matter). There weren't any of the aforementioned.
90% of the time the information will be used retroactively. Like "We're interested in so and so, I want his emails, recent purchases, locations, etc"
"Show me all video of xyz location for the last 10 days. Pattern search it, any reoccurring activities etc."
It won't be good for "catching" more towards the idea of pulling up any and all information and all "transactions" concerning a location or person.
Match that with EVERY transaction everyone makes. It is the ultimate Dooms Day Book that would have made William the Conqueror drool.
We are finished. America is over. Consider the massive amount of scandal and flagrant corruption that has been uncovered over the last few months. There will be no outrage. There will be no house cleaning. There will be no Justice. It's being thrown in our fucking faces and nothing will be done about any of it.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/obamas-secret-treaty-which-w...
We are NOT finished:
You have a choice, Neo.
You can take the Red Pill and Everything will Change.
You will have to disengage from the Matrix in any way you possibly can, in any way, even minutely if you have to. But you must begin to disengage. It is the only way to begin the Destruction of the Matrix. Only then will ZH be Free and able to return to free markets.
Or you can take the Blue Pill and invest in stocks.
Although I appreciate the sentiment, Matrix was a fucking movie..........
Yes, but I am trying to get you to use your imagination.
We are a long way from finished.
Ok NOW the US has officially "jumped the shark".
Joe plays a sad violin
Mary tends to her mother's business
Joseph is teh new villiage priest
GR6tW
Please, I want more political "leaders" in the Senate to say "calm down, this is nothing new".
They say the same thing to Turkeys the day before thanksgiving week.
But....but...I LOVE BIG BROTHER.
Who are the F'in idiots who think they are immune from this? YOU fools who design and run this shit will be fodder for your masters. Do you idiots ever read any history, ever take a break from violating your fellow man and read about what happens to useful idiots, even if your side wins your all dead!! Not fro mme I will be in a camp,your masters will disappear your ass once you hint at what a double edged sword you've become..
On the brighter side Ther is every indication that Calisi is on her way to the kingdom with dragons in tow to free all the slaves while defeating the masters with no commercial.
My coworker sent me the following below. We work in the "public sector" in Los Angeles. He is completely unaware of things like PRISM or all the money printing/borrowing but appears extremely excited about all the fun things the city is providing for its people.
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/06/see_the_natural_history_museums_new_gardens_and_building.php#51b0d14bf92ea17eb800658b
http://news.yahoo.com/river-runs-kayaking-fishing-come-downtown-los-angeles-221235665.html
"A lot of cool things happening in Los Angeles area in the last couple of years and upcoming years. New museums, rail lines, bridges, parks, and major buildings. Many things going on at once. Sweet."
Back in the thirties I had the same thing happen, a coworker in Berlin was going on and on about a new Cabaret on Prinz-Albrecht-Strasse totally oblivious to what was going on just down the Strasse
http://www.icols.org/pages/NEWS-EVENTS/Berlinmarch/TofT_HistoricalSite/T...
I loved my visit to Berlin in 2008. History repeats for a reason. People do forget.
Looping Mackie Messer seems so appropriate now, the calm before the storm and all. Actually all of Kurt Weil's work seems kind of appropriate.
I am not a number. I am a free man!
564-33-8976
Fuck me..............
Any bets Holder was looking for the Prism leaker when he signed off on spying on AP and Fox?