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As A Reminder, AT&T, Verizon And Others Have Been Providing NSA With Phone Records Since 2001
When it comes to events from the recent "for the collective good" history, America appears to have a very short memory. Because if it could remember further back than just 15 (milli)seconds, it would recall this USA Today front page from May 11, 2006:
To summarize:
On May 11, 2006, USA Today published an article reporting that AT&T, Verizon, and Bellsouth had been providing the NSA with the telephone records of “tens of millions of Americans” since shortly after September 11, 2001. Called “the largest database ever assembled in the world” by the newspaper’s source, its purported goal was to “‘create a database of every call ever made’ within the nation’s borders.”
Back then everyone denied everything.
Although it was not implicated in the story, Qwest, a teleco that operates primarily in the West and Northwest, quickly stated that it had not participated in the NSA program. Shortly thereafter, both BellSouth and Verizon also denied involvement. BellSouth demanded that USA Today state for the record that it had not been involved with the NSA. Eventually, on June 30, 2006, USA Today withdrew the story as it applied to Verizon and BellSouth... Unlike BellSouth and Verizon, AT&T neither confirmed nor denied assisting the NSA, asserting that the U.S. Department of Justice said discussing the program would harm national security
Good - so we now know Verizon was lying and AT&T was and likely still continues to cooperate with the NSA. Any questions?
So - once again - what exactly is the news? That Americans are being spied upon? This has been the case for the past 12 years!
Oh, we know - it must is the "stunning" realization that the person who created the following morphed photo actually knew what they were doing.
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Of course they do and always have. AT&T is just one big party line.
can i be this guy today......if ya aint doin nuttun wrong ya aint got nuttun to worry 'bout....
So THESE must be the freedoms they hate us for.
Operation Stellar Wind.
It's like a big, fucking relay race.....
The gun sounds and on one leg of the race a Republican is carrying the flare by which to torch the Constitution....and then he hands it off to a Democrat to continue the race to torch the Constitution....and on and on it goes.....
until THEY win the race.
And we all sit in the stands and root for one or the other.....when there is only ONE RELAY TEAM ON THE TRACK !
Welcome to Prison Planet.
They are after whistleblowers not terrorists, although it might not be long before whistleblowers are defined as terrorists.
The message of this story is very clear: BLAME BUSH, to which I respond, BS. If Obama really cared about the privacy of Americans he would not have moved to extend these snooping practices, nor would he have made them more intrusive. So blame Obama as well as the US Congress that voted to extend the Patriot Act.
Go long manilla rope.
Please, the government has been spying on Americans long before 2001. Electronic communication just makes it easier to spy on more people.
More smoked mirrors & distraction. Remember BENGAZI!!!
Inside Job 911
Bengazi
Fast & Furious
LIBOR
MF Global
Arming, funding & training AL CIA duh terrorists via the criminal CIA, NATO
Illegal Wars of aggression
Illegal Wire Tapping
Torture
Rendition
Gitmo
CIA drug running & money laundering through the TBTFB
The Global Criminal Cabal Oligarch Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate soon will have its throats slit upside down from ear to ear for all the world to see. It's coming!!!
Muddy1...
You' hit the nail on the head. The Obama Admin illegalities make the Bush Admin illegalities look miniscule and petty.
Anyone who does not get it - that this is THE MOST CORRUPT Admin in American history - needs to schedule a colonoscopy so they can have their head examined.
Phone records are simply not enough in the age of social networking. Our government needs to get savy with social networking sites like facebook and twitter, and start actively working with companies like Google and Apple to warehouse personal data. The following is a list of data that will be particularly helpful, but it is by no means complete:
1. Online commentary
2. Online subscribtions
3. Location history
4. Email history
The government needs to develop innovative ways to capture and store this information so that it is available to government officials on demand.
Just a quick reminder for you...
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Just a reminder for you..........
Patriot Act.
Just a reminder for you....NDAA.
Between the two the government has all the rights we used to have and then some. We be fucked.
Speak for yourselves Patriot Act & NDAA sheep. It's all based on The Act of 1871 & Fraudulent UNITED STATES Corp.
I live in a free Constitutional Republic & The United States For America & will die honorably on my feet as opposed to a slave on its knees.
5. online banking
including, of course, logging in to your pension plan to see what's there .. thanks for your password
we already had your mother's maiden name on file
You sir are a tool.
Touch yourself
Taste yourself
Feel yourself
Fuck yourself
http://www.ouvirmusica.com.br/wraygunn/927338/
MDB
Ooooooooooh, you took it too far.
It would be much easier if we justed posted in a history of all of our thoughts at the end of each day.
must be an imposter.
From a government once run by a person who quibbled over the definition of "is", I'm sure the definition of "wrong" is crystal clear - and tens of thousands of pages long.
.....if you hear something, say something.
If you do something, say nothing.
... and when you do, phone it in as an anonymous tip. ;)
... and when you do, phone it in as an anonymous tip. ;)
No shit, no surprise.
Who is this handsome fellow? Let's get him in office in 2016.
He will never leave the oval office as long as NSA/CIA run this land of the free.
and the fed
Government ineptitude.
All this data and they can't manage the do-not-call list.
James-Morrison:
Just wait until the IRS gets all the shiny new Agents with fancy new computers to administer Obamacare. Surely they'll be able to vastly improve their managment skills then!
The do-not-call list will be a cinch along with the 330,000,000 patient list. For the children.
(wipes eyes)
that image will haunt my dreams, thanks tyler
The Right Profile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qqjHzWIyvQ
I'm afraid he died. That's Tony Randall
http://exhibits.library.northwestern.edu/archives/exhibits/alumni/randal...
Everybody already knows this because of the hit TV show "CSI: United States, Extra Judicial Powers Unit."
Thank god for the liberal press for exposing this. No I don't mean USA Today...
And what about the phone conversations before 9/11? The weeks and months before, to be precise, in NY and Washington. Some of these would make interesting listening......
Pull it!
No problem... Bushama's new NSA (National Security Adviser) will get to the bottom of this and expose all those secrets hidden in those deep, dark crevices.
Also note that even though it's all over the front page, there is no indication of it stopping.
Keep that in mind.
Eric Holder already checked into it, and it's all good bitchez...............
Pretty boring if they've been listening to me.
Except the parts about diesel fuel and fertilizer.
Humorless fucks that they are.
Should have SWAT kickin' in my door any moment now.
Thank you for putting a face on George W. Obama III.
That picture is exactly our political system in one shot.
George Wussein Bushama.
'Shiver me timbers'
Tyler, stop pointing out that Republican = Democrat. You'll upset your readers that are still eating the blue pills.
Let's just say Qwest has microchips used in every cellphone made............... Bad press might hurt business since we know centralization is never abused.......
Thousands of acres of computer data centers have been built to date, with more coming online every day. As a reference point on how much data is being stored, a thumb drive today can hold 64 gigabyes of information.
Long aliases, bitchez!
I have nothing (left) to hide. Government has all the information. I am now so transparent that I can no longer be seen.
I'm invisible!
They hate you for your freedoms,lol.
It seems what IS news is that we have the FISA court caught doing what the defenders of the national security state said it would never do -- giving a greenlight to wholesale data scooping.
Yes, we've known about Echelon and other ad hoc, down low forms of scooping for a long, long time. We know the telcos LOVE to go full fascist for the feds. But there was supposed to be SOME form of check. Turns out there is none, which in turn is not a surprise to those of us who have understood the spasms of 2008 onward are the product of a breakdown of the rule of law in the US.
The way forward lies with disbarments and impeachments, it is the only thing the bastards understand.
The bastards are protected as they had the power but PROMISED they would never use this power.
"It seems what IS news is that we have the FISA court caught doing what the defenders of the national security state said it would never do -- giving a greenlight to wholesale data scooping."
Exactly! Warrants? We ain't got no warrants. We don't need no warrants. I don't have to show you any stinkin' warrants!
From the 5 Jun article that exposed this Verizon snooping:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-co...
"We've certainly seen the government increasingly strain the bounds of 'relevance' to collect large numbers of records at once — everyone at one or two degrees of separation from a target — but vacuuming all metadata up indiscriminately would be an extraordinary repudiation of any pretence of constraint or particularized suspicion." The April order requested by the FBI and NSA does precisely that.
Here is the souce, from Wikipedia:
The USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. The title of the act is a ten letter acronym (USA PATRIOT) that stands for Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.[
Orwellian Description from our great government
I always talk on phone as if Bushbama is listening. After 10 years of doing so, it's like a second language if made up words.
Just a test run
Nothing to see here
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705363940/Utahs-15-billion-cyber-security-center-under-way.html?pg=all
So when we have a bank run again, can we post the "yeah, no shit, fractional reserve banking is still in place, the system is as broke as it ever was"? "Check out this article: it's from every other banking crisis and scandal before it since like 1650."
Let me suggest this: the metadata is getting more precise. You're no longer x distance away from cell towers. You now have a unique identifier that places you exactly somewhere. Browser history is probably available too. Text messages. Photos.
And then this: if you're reading about it, it probably because they're allowing you to know about it. That seems to be the M.o. In reality, it's much worse. And then they come out with a few more details later about what they were really doing. The significance to this is that it's not totalitarianism unless people think there's nothing that they can't do or know.
And then we switch to streaming virtual characters that are constantly talking with only encrypted nudges to help decipher the stream, based on an architecture of common experience. The virtual characters are also multiples in a virtual society that is constantly chattering, muttering, much ado about chaos. Sort that Biches.
Is that a diary entry or a diagnosis?
(Should I congratulate you for a busy, busy day or just say gesundheit?)
I had to stop telling everyone I liked a bomb in the 5th @ Saratoga.
In my opinion having a system in place to deter or stop terrorist is one thing . Abusing it is another. Back to our regularly scheduled Marxist/Fascist takeover.
This current effort is just a refinement of what Bush gave us. It is interesting that the neural network software used under Bush wasn't getting them enough information, or that they (the "bad" guys) had devised a work-around to diffuse the call traffic from certain callers. Or they (the NSA) used the probability effort to set up the infrastructure and better define the current effort. It was only a matter of time regardless.
No 'Bush' didnt do jack shit presidents are just puppets. All you 'Bush started all this' types need to wake the fuck up to reality, this has been going on for many decades...the bankers make all the rules and control everything end of story.
Gosh isn't it neat how all the stuff that the 'tinfoil hatters' were saying years ago is now main stream news fact? Kooky, that.
They get better reception than the 'un-hatted'...ever put a ball of tin foil on the end of a radio antenna?
"By the way that also means that when I’m President one of the first things I’m going to do is call in my attorney general and say to him or her I want you to review every executive order that’s been issued by George Bush — whether it relates to warrantless wiretaps, or detaining people or reading e-mails, or whatever it is — I want you to go through every single one of them and if they are unconstitutional or they are encroaching on civil liberties unnecessarily we are going to overturn them…we are going to change them."
Barack Obama
"This Administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand. I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.
That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient."
Barack Obama
After a fair trial by a jury of his peers hang him as we'll as hia predecessor. They're both Treasonists & War Ciminals.
Wow. Just Wow. The words flow from this imposter like a slick-tongued charlatan but there ain't a shred of meaningful commitment behind them. Over and over and over again and his poll numbers still magically levitate as if the electorate is drinkin the same kool aid.
Here kid, try some kool aid. First one's free.
People still think a president controls anything....no wonder we're so fucked over as a nation no one gets it, at all.
There is your republican patriotism. Be a good citizen and be spied with a smile. After all, they called the wiretaping act the "Patriot Act".
Wow another one who believes in the red team/blue team bullshit....if no one even gets reality here on ZH no wonder the country is so absolutely fucked.
Let's not forget that Intel has a built in physical backdoor into your computer for the US Government to use at their bidding.
Yeah, FU2 Intel! And your RFIDs. Ready for implants yet? MFers.
Would I be correct in guessing this is happening in your Hillsborough OR facilities, not in Santa Clara CA? Do ppl realize just how much their location has expanded there? Google Earth? ;-)
Room 641A
Once you open Pandora's Box you can never close it. Osama Bin Laden is a hero to those who want to keep America under their thumb.
911 ! 911 !
How long before the NSA will no longer be able to receive reports of terrorism from American citizens, because, all agents are to busy spying on American citizens.
Where is the ACLU. I forgot... They only go after conservatives.
Don't be so naive. They've been... 'coopted'. By Special Interest Groups. Who drive the real agenda.
How do you like your G-3 plus cell phone now?
My buddy at the NSA cyber security division laughs: They pay US, to track them, don't get any easier than that!
The real reason that Canada's RIM and their B/Berry got smacked down, all started with a simple headline a few years back during the Iraq war... I recall something to the effect: "Saudi Arabian security forces object to foreign media using encryption security on their Blackberries".
I knew right then, where this was going to go. Sadly, I was right: It's not just the Saudis, but our guys who needed a Back Door and more malleability from the phone makers. Enter AAPL.
You have the right to remain silent (aka shut up).
Anything we collect can and will be used against you ...
This is what makes the JD claim that they didn't tap any wires TOTAL BULL SHIT.
All they had to do was give the NSA the time and dates and the NSA gives them the conversation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319789/ALL-phone-calls-US-recor...
I encourage everyone to get on the phone and say key words like bomb, attack, explosion, etc. This system needs to be overwhelmed with white noise.
I sure am glad that the government is working so hard to protect us from Israel's enemies.
the radiant face of the US admin; peekeboo, i'm watching u!
"In his first television interview since he resigned from the National Security Agency over the its domestic surveillance program, William Binney discusses the NSA's massive power to spy on Americans and why the FBI raided his home after he became a whistleblower. Binney was a key source for investigative journalist James Bamford's recent exposé in Wired Magazine about how the NSA is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaTv5MODnBk
We just need to hurry up and implement the Chinese system: Pictures on the Internet replaced with yellow duckies, words deleted seconds after being posted. You know, TRUE protection from "them" because, "they" hate us for our freedoms.
/sarc
See my post in the comments for the Room 641A.
This has been going before 2001, I am absolutely positive and stand witness personally to that fact. They do this shit inch by inch, just like that " tips" stunt you used to try to pull on miss marry rottencrotch back in high school.
Read up on Lawful Intercept. Light and entertaining reading for sure.
A taste from wiki:
During the 1990s, as in most countries, to help law enforcement and the FBI more effectively carry out wiretap operations, especially in view of the emerging digital voice and wireless networks at the time, the US Congress passed CALEA in 1994.[2] This act provides the Federal statutory framework for network operator assistance to LEAs in providing evidence and tactical information. In 2005, CALEA was applied to public broadband networks Internet access and Voice over IP services that are interconnected to the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN).
Don't like it do something about it!
https://www.change.org/petitions/the-united-states-government-the-nation...
Y you no know this already?
"The order, marked "Top Secret" and issued by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, instructs Verizon Business Network Services, a subsidiary that provides internet and telecommunications services for corporations, to hand over data including all calling records on an "ongoing, daily basis.”
Ah, now we know why the top secret order was leaked! The FBI was apparently doing some investigations into corporate criminality and everyone on Wall Street of course had to be warned of this. If it had been just us citizen dweebs being spied on, we'd never have seen that top secret order.
Somewhere in the distance, I hear the hum of a million degaussing magnets.
You my be on to something, Winston.
Unless that hum is a drone. In which case, you are still right and I'm still fucked.