The 4th Amendment Violations Will Continue Until Morale Improves

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

For some, it’s hard to even fathom... as if the headlines were ripped from the Onion instead of Atlas Shrugged or 1984:

* NSA Is Wired Into Top Internet Companies’ Servers, Including Google and Facebook


* NSA reportedly collecting phone records of millions


* Former NSA head defends agency reportedly spying on millions of Americans


* US gov’t defends NSA surveillance, slams ‘reprehensible’ journalists

Even more, just within the last few weeks we’ve seen the Justice Department confiscating news reporter phone records... the IRS caught bullying political opposition groups... and now this.

It should be as plain as day at this point. Yet some people still have a hard time understanding that they’re living under an oppressive, destructive, unaccountable government.

Most other cultures get it. If you go to Argentina, Vietnam, Italy, or China, people there have absolutely no trust or confidence in their governments.

It’s something that’s 'almost' uniquely American - a lifetime of steady, bombastic propaganda that inculcates a deep belief that our system is the ‘best’.

And, even in the face of such overwhelming evidence, it’s still hard for people to break from this programming and acknowledge that their government is just as corrupt as Mexico’s... albeit slightly more sophisticated.

The politicians running the nation are sociopathic criminals, plain and simple. If you or I were to tap people’s phones or hack their Facebook accounts, or use our authority to bully opposition groups, we would be tossed in the slammer in no time… and branded by the media as moral delinquents.

Yet politicians get away with it. They even have prominent members of the press championing their criminality, like this quote from Forbes today:

“this is in fact what governments are supposed to do so I’m at something of a loss in understanding why people seem to be getting so outraged about it.”

The simple reason is because the system is a total failure.

In the ‘free world’, society is based on a principle that a tiny elite should have the power to kill. To steal. To wage war. To debase the currency. To deprive certain people of freedom. All in their sole discretion. And for the good of everyone else.

We’re just supposed to trust them to be good guys and be proficient at their jobs. And in case they happen to completely screw it up and wreck the nation, they get a pass.

It’s a completely absurd. We’re ruled by criminals, plain and simple.

This is a hard lesson for an entire society to learn, but perhaps the most important.

Unfortunately, the second lesson is even harder: that there’s absolutely nothing we can do about it.

We’ve also been led to believe that direct democracy and grassroots movements can be a force for change. Yet it rarely, if ever, happens.

Short of outright revolution, the system isn’t going to change. It has to completely crash... and hit rock bottom... before it can be rebuilt. And we’re still a loooong way off from that.

Like ancient Rome before, the Land of the Free can look forward to being governed by a long series of criminals in the foreseeable future, notwithstanding the occasional sage.

Nations rise and fall. This cycle is inevitable. And history shows that the world’s most dominant nation typically has a long, grinding decline. It’s going to take a while.

That’s why, instead of trying to change the system, it’s so important to invest time, energy, and capital in the things that set up you and your family for maximum freedom and prosperity.

You can’t stop a speeding train by standing in front of it. You just want to make sure you’re not on it as it heads towards the cliff.

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NOTW777's picture

i guess the terrorists in benghazi didn't have verizon service or use google or twitter

Abiotic Oil's picture

Since everything is intercepted and analyzed, the Boston Bombings were let to happen?

Or DHS sucks at their job and should be defunded?

Or, like in Nazi Germany, the surveillance apparatus is greatly exaggerated to instill fear and compliance?

Umh's picture

It could be that real "bad guys" already knew what the government was doing. What they are doing is spying on the "good guys" who are also known as law abiding citizens.

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

Two clauses in the US constitution that libertarians don't want you to know about:

1. The Interstate Commerce Clause

This states that the Federal government has a duty to " Regulate Interstate commerce" which gives them the authority to impose sensible laws on businesses and people operating across multiple states such as the minimum wage and carbon tax.

2. The General Welfare Clause

This states that the Federal Government has a duty to "promote the general welfare" of its citizens. This clause states that not only is the welfare state constitutional, but it is required by law.

James_Cole's picture

Short of outright revolution, the system isn’t going to change. It has to completely crash... and hit rock bottom... before it can be rebuilt. And we’re still a loooong way off from that.


asteroids's picture

One of the mime's from the 70's went "Question Authority before Authority Questions You". Obozo and his minions really need to be raked over the coals. Remember folks, there is no penalty for lying. Obozo can claim National Security or priviledge or some other kind of horseshit.

philipat's picture

They hate us for our freedoms.

Big Slick's picture

James_Cole: "Rebuilt?"

Ha-ha. I caught that too.

(You know, like they rebuilt Germany back in the 1930's)

MrPalladium's picture

As I have stated before, we are only 400 basis points away on the long bond, and 200 basis points away on the one year note, from a collapse of fedgov.

It is inevitable. Be ready.

Big Slick's picture

Post of the day, Palladium.

And that, boys and girls, is why they LITERALLY will print to infinity!

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Relax. He's a benign troll, here for our amusement.

Room 101's picture

+1. Love the satire.  Definitely Jonathan Swift-esque

B2u's picture

Nope, you are wrong again.  The 4th Amendment is simple and clear which is why Obama doesn't understand it.


The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]

Ident 7777 economy's picture

Superseded by the, um, Patriot Act I believe ...

I could be wrong tho. Better check with a Democrat ...

Umh's picture

Those two clauses have been stretched so far they can't fart.

moneybots's picture

I am sure the libertarians want you to know that the government abuses the interstate commerce clause.

If a welfare state was constitutional and required by law, it would have been instituted upon ratification of the Constitution.

inevitablecollapse's picture

this is no place for logic, man!

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

'General welfare'?  You must mean, "Generous welfare.  For the inner-city Poor, and the inner-city Elite".  The former to vote for you, the latter to fund & control you -- if you're a politician.

Unknown Poster's picture

The inner city poor have Obama phones so they don't feel left out.

NOTW777's picture

if they could only use those drones to drop verizon enabled obamaphones in the terrorist camps

Unknown Poster's picture

They can then post videos on you-tube and really piss people off.

notadouche's picture

Please define "sensible laws".  

Perhaps you should define "welfare" as well because the way I understand what you are stating by saying the "welfare state is required by law" has got to be the most preposterous definition I have ever heard.  You might want to actually read the clause and not just the name of the clause and attach to it whatever meaning you see fit.    

Last One Out's picture

Clauses don't mean jackshit, douchebag. Of course you already know that, but mommy left the computer unattended again while she was banging your brother so that gave you another opportunity to get some attention. I realize you're here to entertain, but you're as entertaining as watching Geraldo Rivera felch himself. Oh, and to make sure the NSA gets a chuckle out of this; PRIME, michelle, chewbacca.

Midasking's picture

too funny.. that post really made me laugh.  Keep up the good work.

moonshadow's picture


lol...MDB u crack me up. and look at how many u bagged this time around! well done!

Mike7.62's picture


It states "promote the general welfare", not "provide". Huge difference. Promote means to encourage the conditions favorable for the general welfare, not steal money to provide it. Provide means direct funding such as the Navy and the Postal Service as in Article I Section 8. Quit trying to revise the document and the meaning of words. Its bad enough having to put up with your statist tripe on a regular basis without having to read your lies too.

STP's picture

I had the exact same argument with a bunch of California Educators on a Cal Education Website, where they're cheering OBama's plan to spend hundreds of millions of TAXPAYER dollars on preschool home visits, by nurses and social workers.

"The president has proposed a federal program, funded by an increased tobacco tax, that would partner with states to expand access to and quality of public preschool programs for low- and moderate-income 4-year-olds. The program would also provide funding for expanded infant and toddler care. Both initiatives would cost $75 billion in new early learning funds over the next decade."

"The president’s proposal, called Preschool For All, would make another $20.9 million available to California for home-visiting programs. The programs send nurses, social workers or other professionals to the homes of low-income parents of infants and toddlers to teach parents about early language acquisition, nutrition and safe sleeping habits."





Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Well, given that Atheism is the state religion, the first part of this one is fucked. Freedom of speech? Try saying the word "gun" in school-- nope. Freedom of the press? Well thanks to the internet, maybe; but they can disable the internet, can't they. Freedom of Assembly? Try to "assemble" in an airport, and see what happens. Petition the Government? I suppose, but if your petition is completely ignored, it isn't a petition. SCORE: 90% COMPROMISED

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Infringed? Fucking well right it has been infringed. SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

I'm trying to figure out how they are going to compromise this one, because you sure as shit know they are at some point. SCORE: 0% COMPROMISED

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This one's done. SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Well, you can be seized and thrown into prison at any time, for any reason, if someone calls you an "enemy combatant". So, fuck due process. And anyway, if you do manage to get actual "due process" at the Federal level, don't worry-- they only have a 99% conviction rate. So you were guilty anyway! And your property can be seized at any time and given to another private party, the Supreme Court said so, so that finishes this one up. SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Given that the Feds have a 99% conviction rate, does this require further elaboration? SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Common law??? What's that? We replaced that with Admiralty Law starting back in the 1870s. SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Um. Waterboarding. And they don't even wait for you to be "tried"! You get it in place of due process! Bonus Points! SCORE: 100% COMPROMISED

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



Conclusion: YAY THIRD AMENDMENT!!!!!!!

James_Cole's picture

Well, given that Atheism is the state religion, the first part of this one is fucked

Atheism is the state religion ROFL

As far as the constitution goes, Kissinger said it best imo:

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."

From NYT, quoted 1973

NotApplicable's picture

Third Amendment is moot due to the un-American creation of standing armies. So, while not compromised, its premise has long ago been undermined.

Midasking's picture

I think I've seen this movie before... tic toc tic toc almost time for the action scene

Abiotic Oil's picture

Maybe the SCOTUS, can redefine the word "secure" for us?

Secure: the feeling of having a large object lodged in your rectum.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

DosZap's picture

Those that give up liberty for security,deserve neither freedom nor security.

Widowmaker's picture

It drips with irony when a nigger is used to castrate every civil liberty you had - and even champions the cause!

It is quite clear that terrorists have won the war on terror and this pathetic excuse by crotch-grabbing security fuckups in 'government' only hardens that fact. DC be damned.

Big Slick's picture

Prime Minister Botha, white courtesy phone.

NOTW777's picture

wonder if NSA guys trade the markets

Cugel's picture

Even the NSA is filtering Simon Black's posts

franzpick's picture

GoBombEm and the Tyrannicals are going to overheat the Utah data center when they start trying to filter the first few zetabytes of civilian BitMessages:

WTFUD's picture

'wonder if NSA trade the market'
whether these dumbfucks like the former east german stasi trade the market or not their income is paid by the taxpayer who prop up the market.
same as the small businessman who walks around open mouthed with spit running down his chin wondering if they can breakeven month to fucking month.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Duh, whaddya think?  The math geniuses (Good Will hunting types) wrote the fucking HFT algos in their spare time.  Not only can/do they play algo rhythms, but can/do mess with the traffic from competitive HFT players.  Far more lucrative than cracking codes.  And when it comes to human behavior, it's best to follow the motives of Ego, Power and Greed.  Capisce? 

Bet accordingly, when in their casino.

NotApplicable's picture

Besides, someone has to keep Kevin Henry on his toes.

Umh's picture

It is just taking no knock searches to the Internet.





Tortfeasor's picture

Also - the first, second, third, fifth and tenth are hereby conditionally revoked.

Love, Uncle Barry 

DCFusor's picture

I wish he wasn't correct, but he is.

Wasn't worth keeping the 2nd ammendment, if you can't organize without easy and early detection.

Stick a fork in the US, we're done.

Sabibaby's picture

hmmm... I got a lot of ammo left and chances are we all do some type of work for these people. Just like they can monitor us, we have ways of monitoring them. 

They need healthcare.

They need technology.

They need their cars fixed.

They need food.

They need water.

They need a place to live.

They need someone to mow their lawn. 

There are many ways we have as much access to them as they have to us, we just need to think outside the computer box.

robochess's picture

More than ANYTHING, they need tax money. Choke off their money, they are toast.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

If they can't get a trophy wife, they will change careers.  Then again, there is no cure for sociopathy. 

JohnG's picture

Fight Club style.  I like it,