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Is Obama Lying About Big Brother?

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As of this moment, Obama is making the case that the US government is not eavesdropping on phone calls. Specifically, he said "nobody is listening to your phone calls - they are just looking at phone numbers and duration of calls" and concluded that the NSA was only engaged in "modest encroachments." It was unclear if that clarification was meant to put to rest fears that Big Brother has made personal privacy a thing of the past. He further went on to add that the telephone surveillance program is fully vetted by Congress and supervised by the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA). In other words: Obama is making the case that the NSA's Big Brother supervision is perfectly legal and not only that, there are checks and balances and neither the telephonic snooping nor the internet supervision is anything to be concerned about.  There is one problem: Obama is lying.

Back in April 2009, three months into the Obama regime, none other than the NSA admitted it has overstepped its legal boundaries. As the NYT reported: "The National Security Agency intercepted private e-mail messages and phone calls of Americans in recent months on a scale that went beyond the broad legal limits established by Congress last year, government officials said in recent interviews. "

NYT goes on:

Several intelligence officials, as well as lawyers briefed about the matter, said the N.S.A. had been engaged in “overcollection” of domestic communications of Americans. They described the practice as significant and systemic, although one official said it was believed to have been unintentional.

 

The Justice Department, in response to inquiries from The New York Times, acknowledged Wednesday night that there had been problems with the N.S.A. surveillance operation, but said they had been resolved.

 

As part of a periodic review of the agency’s activities, the department “detected issues that raised concerns,” it said. Justice Department officials then “took comprehensive steps to correct the situation and bring the program into compliance” with the law and court orders, the statement said. It added that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. went to the national security court to seek a renewal of the surveillance program only after new safeguards were put in place.

The same Eric Holder who is currently being investigated for perjury before congress. As for "compliance" 4 years later it seems nothing has changed.

As for Obama's clear conscience:

The legal and operational problems surrounding the N.S.A.’s surveillance activities have come under scrutiny from the Obama administration, Congressional intelligence committees and a secret national security court, said the intelligence officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because N.S.A. activities are classified. Classified government briefings have been held in recent weeks in response to a brewing controversy that some officials worry could damage the credibility of legitimate intelligence-gathering efforts.

Well thank god the most transparent administration held classified briefings to discuss the biggest government espionage program ever conceived. One may have gotten ideas otherwise...

Finally, on Obama's pinky swear that it is only foreigners' emails and iMessages that are being intercepted, turns out he is lying here too:

In recent weeks, the eavesdropping agency notified members of the Congressional intelligence committees that it had encountered operational and legal problems in complying with the new wiretapping law, Congressional officials said.

 

Officials would not discuss details of the overcollection problem because it involves classified intelligence-gathering techniques. But the issue appears focused in part on technical problems in the N.S.A.’s ability at times to distinguish between communications inside the United States and those overseas as it uses its access to American telecommunications companies’ fiber-optic lines and its own spy satellites to intercept millions of calls and e-mail messages.

And so on.

In short: what difference does it make - it is only the stripping of the most fundamental privacy rights of US citizens! And how else can you build a totalitarian government if you don't give up some freedoms - good heavens, one can't ask the poor president to provide 100% security without experiencing some "inconvenience" and handing over a little privacy. Or a lot.

In the end, let's not forget what really matters: the NSA spying program is from the government, and it is here to help you.

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Finally, here is Matt Damon explaining why he wouldn't work for the NSA:

 

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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:38 | 3634110 lolmao500
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Is water wet? Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the sky blue? Are politicians crooks?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:39 | 3634124 max2205
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all are liars...the days of denying from them have passed....is full out spin and lies while we all now see the truth

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:40 | 3634138 quintago
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This guy needs to go. I'm tired of this shit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:41 | 3634150 john39
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doesn't matter who plays the role of puppet in chief....  the fascist system is in place.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:47 | 3634176 quintago
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I'm going to start answering the phone with "prism" or "bomb" instead of hello. I'm going to do my part to render the system so full of noise that it becomes useless. It's time we found a new way to say hello anyways.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:49 | 3634185 Divided States ...
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I guess this will be the last time you will be in touch with anyone (aside from the Feds). Good Bye.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:50 | 3634193 Say What Again
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Who is this guy, obama, that everyone keeps talking about?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:57 | 3634211 Pure Evil
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It's amazing how all the talking heads are either defending the practice, actually saw this on a local morning show, or, they are minimizing the impact by saying that nobody's 1st amendment rights were infringed.

Of course, no mention is discussed as to whether our 4th amendment rights have been infringed.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:09 | 3634274 James_Cole
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Good Will Hunting and the Seige - two movies I saw again recently. Of all the movies, hadn't of thought those two would be prescient.

Good clip.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:26 | 3634383 Joe Davola
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"modest encroachments."  I'll only stick it in a little.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:44 | 3634470 redpill
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I'm sick of these fucking fascists.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:03 | 3634574 macholatte
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Tyler, Tyler, Tyler

I keep telling you to stop confusing everybody with facts but you just don't listen.

Now go watch PBS and get your mind right.

 

 

 

BTW: Matt Damon = jerkoff hypocrite

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:40 | 3634740 Totentänzerlied
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"jerkoff hypocrite" is a euphemistic way of saying liberal douchebag, which is rather redundant.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:09 | 3635792 Precious
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Q: Is Obama Lying?

A: Are His Lips Moving?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:07 | 3635981 espirit
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If they can do it, they will do it.

I call BULLSHIT.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:34 | 3636028 Zer0head
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:18 | 3636185 This just in
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My letter to the editor of many publications:

I don't know if my comments can make a difference, but I have to hope so. I am old enough to remember the Nixon years.  I remember how America was scarred by that scandal.

There is a cancer on this presidency.  There exists a real and present threat to our freedom. Please, for the sake of us all, diligently report the truth about what is happening in this administration.  

Incredibly, as I send this, my words are likely being captured.  I, as a private American citizen, do not belong in the path of tyranny.  Yet, I am.  All of us are.

Please help to protect my freedom.  Please work to protect all of our freedoms.

Once lost, liberty is not easily returned.  You can make a difference now, before we all suffer a generational, tragic loss.  You are the ones who inform the public.  You have a responsibility to safeguard our freedom.

I earnestly hope you will consider this petition. As one voice, I am rather powerless.  You are not.

We must put aside all other differences at this critical, desperate moment. There is no more time to delude ourselves.  Our nation is on fire.

Your reporting will forever stand in comparison to the unfolding history we are all about to experience.  

In time, the voracity of your work will be apparent to all.

I do hope you understand your responsibility, and your opportunity.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:41 | 3636721 GetZeeGold
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Time to take out the trash.

 

I'll start on my side, you start on your side, and we'll meet in the middle.

 

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:01 | 3636852 economics9698
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Politicians have been selected by the Yids ever since McKinley was assassinated by a Yid follower.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:25 | 3636882 SMG
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Nope, wrong people, try again.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:21 | 3636945 Bendromeda Strain
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Incorrect. The answer is... wrong entity

(not my downvote)

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:10 | 3637014 smlbizman
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my promise , when it comes to my front door, it will end there for me and whoever is on the other side....ive always said i will fight and die for the right cause.....my front door is my line in the sand....fuck em, take one with you, best we can do....

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:05 | 3637003 Widowmaker
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You are fucking clueless.  Read some history.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:32 | 3636746 Midasking
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well said, times are sure to get interesting actually even more so.  The people need to get informed and actually do something... http://tinyurl.com/n8hmfya

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:09 | 3635992 NoDebt
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Both sides are licking their lips and quietly cheering this on.  They know someday THEY will be the ones in power and they WANT THIS SHIT.  They want it so bad they can TASTE it.  Intoxicating control and power.  They care for nothing else, and technology has just dropped the tools to achieve it right into their laps.

At this point I really wish Obama would press the "internet kill button" and be done with it.  No offense to the Tylers and ZH, but the internet on the whole is looking more like a tool of oppression than freedom at this point.

Say..... now that I think about it, how could Obama have an "internet kill button" without already being tied into all the major communication providers in the first place?  Should have seen it coming.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:03 | 3636297 yatikto
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Exactly,  they have everyone profiled and categorized.   They know more about you than you would admit to your friends. 

 

All those people who "got nothing to hide", should wake up and pose the same question to their government.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:09 | 3636727 GetZeeGold
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There is no R and there is no D.

 

McCain and Obama are on the same team.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:25 | 3636951 Bendromeda Strain
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Yeah, and Romney is an elder in a cult that constructs your geneology. And Google isn't evil. And, and, and...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:19 | 3634881 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's exactly how the people in Turkey feel:  http://nubiagroup-powerpoint-collection.blogspot.com/2013/06/violents-protests-in-turkey-may-june.html

I particularly like the slide 20, with the girl holding the sign: "Resistance is not Terrorism"

And the messages in slides 28, 30, 32, 103. 

And the home-made gas mask in #48 (made from water bottle).  And the old man in #62 (home made gas mask and shield).  Note the pepper-spray via pressure hose (connected to large tank somewhere).  The body language gestures in #73, #80 (protesters helping cop with broken leg), #101+102 (Saran-wrap gas mask).

You won't see this in the US/USSA.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:18 | 3635833 macholatte
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Good slide show.

Thanks!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:30 | 3636215 francis_sawyer
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Nobody will ever take you seriously until you have a fully functional BREAD HELMET...

~~~

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/100080-bread-helmet-man

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:18 | 3636608 explodinghead
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Good slide show.  I didn't realize the Guy Fawkes mask was that international.  

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:36 | 3636963 Bendromeda Strain
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Shame to see Guevara t-shirts and (modified) Hammer and Sickle flags though. Can't any popular movement bubble up without the usual suspects (the ones who time and time again betray their useful idiots) attempting to hijack them? I wonder how many have even seen V for Vendetta, with it's evil Christian theocracy and reverence for the "holy Koran"? It's a shit movie imo, but the Resistance idea has such appeal that it unfortunately has to suffice for some. Git yer masks here, step right up! There you go, $50, thank you.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:54 | 3634526 TeamDepends
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But you'll use lube and won't film it right?  Right?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:19 | 3634639 TuesdayBen
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I promise the most transparent and honest rape you've ever experienced.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:07 | 3634597 Canuckistan Al
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"Just the tip"

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:13 | 3634619 TexasAggie
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I'm from the IRS and I am here to help.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:34 | 3635873 Common_Cents22
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auschwitz gas showers were modest encroachments too

 

look up the movie "conspiracy"  around 2001, the krauts coming up with "evacuation" plans for the Jews.    Chilling movie.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:56 | 3636127 Wannabee
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Only 'little bit' pregnant....

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 04:52 | 3636680 Flying Tiger Comics
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Just the tip! /Archer

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:02 | 3636594 Freddie
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Hollywood and TV ARE Operation Mockingbird.  Matt Damon is one of O's puppets.   Hollywood and TV tease us with all the police state shit and glorify the CIA, NSA, etc to condition you to accept it.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

It never went away.  It is just worse now.  The Internet is the best spy tool ever and TV/Hollywood are the best tools to brainwash and manipulate thoughts and public opinion.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:46 | 3636973 Bendromeda Strain
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Matt Damon is a human psyop. His Good Will Hunting screenplay was setting up the left like a t-ball, and Obama is the bat.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:13 | 3634301 imaginalis
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Imagine the development of algorithms to detect the intention of whistleblowing from massive database records of phone calls. Such research, were it to be underway, might be classified as secret for national security reasons.

 

We need superwhistleblowers

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:47 | 3634489 Ignatius
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"We need superwhistleblowers"

 

William Binney

John Kiriakou

Bradly Manning

Sibel Edmonds

Daniel Ellsberg

Mordechai Vanunu

Gary Webb

Harry Markopolis

Coleen Rowley

etc.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:55 | 3634534 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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putting manning on there is being generous

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:03 | 3634571 James_Cole
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putting manning on there is being generous

Bradley Manning is a hero.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:18 | 3634636 aerojet
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He placed his life on the line to ensure that we the people found out about some important details.  It is exactly like the Pentagon Papers, only what has been revealed is so much more mind boggling it is surreal.  Our government and the things it does are both insane.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:17 | 3635830 Yes_Questions
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Rowley is an important figure here too.  Read up on her if not familiar.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:28 | 3636033 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Bradley Manning is just a guy who could not be happy only being a drag queen on friday nights. now he gets to be a queen every single day.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:21 | 3636873 DaveyJones
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Is that your idea of a throne? He took some risk on absolute principles. Like we all should do

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:05 | 3634587 NotApplicable
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Bullshit. He reported atrocities, that left unchecked, only further endanger the lives of deployed troops. So the basic argument about the danger of a breach in security is moot.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 16:07 | 3634612 James_Cole
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So the basic argument about the danger of a breach in security is moot.

That same ridiculous argument is used against almost every whistleblower. 

What about these latest NSA leaks? What do you think they'll have to say about whoever leaked that info? 

Bradley Manning faces the death penalty for releasing documents which .gov isn't even attempting to prove caused harm to Americans troops (because they have zero evidence that happened) and is instead focussing on a charge of 'aiding the enemy' which apparently can mean pretty much anything. 

You have to be pretty brainwashed to believe .gov's case against Manning. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/05/daniel-ellsbe...

Edit: Missed this from earlier.

James Clapper, "unauthorized disclosure of a top secret court document threatens potentially long-lasting and irreversible harm to our ability to identify and respond to many threats facing our nation."

Top secret court document lol, Orwell would be impressed!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:30 | 3636365 Paveway IV
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Manning is accused of not being a psychopathic team-player. He was unwilling to conspire with his superiors to hide evidence of war crimes and crimes against humanity (Nuremberg definitions - not mine). He would be the first to agree that he's guilty of that. I don't think he even disputes the .gov's spin on his 'crime' - disclosing war crimes or crimes against humanity by one's own country can't help but aid 'the enemy'.

Manning's moral choice was to disobey an unlawful order in order to expose the far greater damage to the U.S. (= aid to it's enemies) by his superior officers.

Enlisted military like Manning are sworn to and bound by the UCMJ to obey lawful orders. Manning knew he was screwed from the start - the military isn't ever going to admit to giving illegal orders.

Manning's superiors - comissioned officers - do not swear to 'obey orders' in their oath. On the contrary, they swear to and must disobey any order that violates the Constitution of the United States. I'm no constitutional lawyer, but 'accidentally' chain-gunning an AP reporter and cameraman who didn't get the zone-of-death memo - and then hiding that information after-the-fact specifically to decieve the American public and the AP seems - well, cowardly and wrong at the very least.

If the commissioned officers of the U.S. military are too stupid to understand some basic provisions of the U.S. constitution, then they cannot possibly be expected to 'bear true faith and allegiance' to it, protect it from enemies foreign or domestic, OR distinguish between lawful and unlawful orders violating that constitution. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:20 | 3636941 Widowmaker
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You mean the spineless incorporated stacked deck that W loaded on the Federal benches?

Civics is dead, few will even understand your reference to the kangaroo "kourts" as it applies to the publc record, due process and rule of law itself. Justice bought and paid for is unattainable for the individual.  Justice doesn't work in the dark, only finance.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:33 | 3634933 WillyGroper
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FFS

Atrociities like the Tillman family endured?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:07 | 3636161 drunkenlout
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The Manning material was about past, and not on-going operations.  It didn't jeopardize troop security as much as it exposed lies from politicians, generals, etc.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3635930 putaipan
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susan landau

 

cathrine austin fitts

 

the new imf lady

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:14 | 3635948 G-R-U-N-T
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Don't forget William Black, because we really know who's running Washington!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8CqaHTygSc

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:25 | 3636880 DaveyJones
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yeah, I keep waiting for William to have a hot tub accident

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 05:58 | 3636700 ajax
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@Ignatius   Sherron Watkins belongs on your list, I think you'll agree

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:47 | 3634491 NotApplicable
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That line of thinking is likely a crime, ya know.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:25 | 3634913 Kirk2NCC1701
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They got Julian Assange penned up as a reminder to what they do to whistle-blowers.  Even when overseas.

And Conscientious Objectors lose their jobs in the US.

"Land of the Free".  LMAO.  More like "Land of the Free-for-all for the 1%"

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:21 | 3635841 Yes_Questions
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With the economy turning to shit, I'm not convinced the Assange situation or even Manning will be a deterrent.

 

How long would you keep the atrocious secrets of a very abusive boss I guess is the question.

 

 

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:48 | 3636407 Paveway IV
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Anyone with kids remains relatively sane by putting off thinking about this very dilemma:

At what point does feeding your kids and keeping a roof over their head trump the increasing certainty that they will live the rest of their lives on their knees, licking the jackboots of the government you left them?

I know - it's a bit over the top.

Maybe it will be different next time?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:35 | 3636616 explodinghead
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I wish I could up arrow that + 100.  Its not over the top at all. unfortunately I am not sane because I think about it a lot.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:26 | 3636884 DaveyJones
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same here, that's exactly how I think about it

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:25 | 3656352 tarsubil
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So does anyone have any ideas? Getting nickels from the bank and buying bullion just ain't doing it for me anymore.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:49 | 3635940 putaipan
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assange is a warning to the "press", he didn't leak nothin', just published it.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:24 | 3636024 NoDebt
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The DOJ (Eric Holder, personally, in some cases) took out criminal warrants against numerous reporters for "just publishing" leaked information.  No defense there.

Everyone is now a criminal.  It's only a question of who they prosecute.

Everyone who posts on this site is now KNOWN to the government.  We are all clicking a bit in some "who's a threat?" caculation inside the Prisim software to "on" just by being here.  Get enough bits in your profile clicking to "on" and you'll be having a difficult time getting seemingly simple things done in your life shortly.

How do you feel about getting audited every year for the rest of your life?

Uh oh, you failed your backround check to purchase your next firearm!  No reason given.  Just denied.

The rainwater running out of your gutters was anonymously reported to the EPA as an environmental threat.  If it happens again you'll be fined $96,000 per incident.  Forecast calls for rain.

Your health insurance preminums just went up 142% because you were determined to engage in nondescript "risky behavior" in your private life.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:24 | 3636564 AGuy
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" It's only a question of who they prosecute.Get enough bits in your profile clicking to "on" and you'll be having a difficult time getting seemingly simple things done in your life shortly."

All these things are happening even if you live under a rock:

1. TSA already makes traveling difficult, regardless who you are. Down in TX, AZ, there are road check points like those in the Soviet Union, and these TSA checkpoints are spreading to the rest of the country.

2. Obamacare is already causing health insurance to soar about 150% over the next couple of years.

2. NY, CO, CT, and other states have made it illegal to purchase rifles with detachable magazines and limit the rounds for existing pre-ban rifles and handguns. Even if you can get a rifle, its nearly impossible to get ammo for it.

3. The gov't is forcing more than a third of the US population to live on Wealthfare or some form of handouts.These people now live under the whim of the gov't and must do what they are told in order to get their next meal.

4. The US Gov't is hell-bent on destabilizing the rest of the world with cheap money (food inflation), using miltarily force/aid (Libya, Syria, etc) and clandestine missions (Yemen, Africa, etc) to overthrow stable gov'ts with radical militiant ones. This is putting the world on a one way ticket to WW3.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:48 | 3636906 SMG
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There are Oligarchs who control the US governement. They are the ones doing this.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:35 | 3635883 Common_Cents22
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Yep, the survelleince isn't as much about keeping terrorists out, but keeping whistleblowers IN.   Kinda like the east german fence.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:07 | 3636153 putaipan
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godbless the whistleblowers.....

but, having just figured out that greenwald was the one who 'broke' this story.... where are the fucking journalists. i only count four these days- greenwald, scahill, taibbi and the tylers. sheesh!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:47 | 3636406 FreedomGuy
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My thought is that if it is a passive computer program filtering key terrorist type words to overseas connections, I could probably accept that. However, the reality is that this system is in place, powerful and it would probably be just a few keystrokes to search for words like "patriot", "liberty", "Tea Party", and so on. With no noise, no consent, no overview we begin our own KGB. For that reason, I prefere to dismantle the whole damned things...along with dronese, red light cameras, listening devices, etc.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:05 | 3634581 lakecity55
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vote with your fiats, folks.

like i said yesterday, start using comedy and monkey wrenches

the death of a thousand cuts

slay the monster

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:46 | 3634767 CH1
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vote with your fiats, folks.

And stop obeying people you know to be thieves and liars!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 16:26 | 3635150 underman
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Agreed.  Time for action.  Not comments.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:46 | 3636256 francis_sawyer
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"vote with your fiats, folks."

~~~

I thought you only used bitcoins...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:41 | 3634749 Clark Bent
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Of course somewhere there in the emanations form the penumbra of the Constitution is the part that we have the right not be slaves to these vermin.Or that we have the right to listen in on what they are doing, as the owners of this country, but they don't have the right to listen in on us, as mere asswipe parasite hirelings of this country. Good God the arrogance of these flyspecks!  

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:45 | 3636401 disabledvet
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or their's. i mean "you are the media" are you not? and "they are the Government." yes, yes?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:13 | 3634304 CuttingEdge
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Excellent question, on the basis that not one of the hundreds in his graduation year can remember him.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:30 | 3634400 Sofa King Confused
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:45 | 3634468 Jonas Parker
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XMEGZ  VFXIR  MOWWD  IJDDE  SZAFP

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Damn! Those "One-Time Code Pads" are impossible to decrypt!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:02 | 3634570 lakecity55
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Francis started her garden

Juan is th enew parish priest

Sally plays a long trombone

Barry smokes a long skin pole

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:35 | 3634717 Nom de Guerre
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Dogs barking.  Use Umbrellas.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:16 | 3636005 espirit
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Beans for breakfast.  LMAO. LOL. New pad.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:45 | 3635919 linniepar
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Thank you for these windoze '98 serial keys.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:26 | 3636030 Lets_Eat_Ben
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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:49 | 3634494 Everybodys All ...
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Some others are asking that same question ... this is getting really crazy.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/ghost-of-columbia-part-ii-legendary-columbia-professor-never-heard-of-obama/

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:50 | 3636266 francis_sawyer
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^^^

~~~

It took me some noodling on the subject but I finally got it figured out...

He got his degree at Columbia online in his pajamas...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:58 | 3636284 Go Tribe
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So he was never at Columbia. Was he born to the parents he claims? Or is he a complete cover story? This is not going to end well.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:00 | 3636781 francis_sawyer
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I fear the opposite... It may NEVER end...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:28 | 3634685 reTARD
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Careful... you don't want to be racist, do you?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:41 | 3636828 Kiwi Pete
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He bombed the World Trade Centre back in 2001

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 18:01 | 3635450 HyperinflatmyNutts
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Just because u r STD

 

(Scared to Death)

Of the FEDS does not mean the rest of us our!!!!!!!!!   

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:29 | 3634337 ebworthen
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quintago said:  "I'm going to do my part to render the system so full of noise that it becomes useless."

Great idea!  Let's get this started!

 

"Dear Mom,

I planted some petunias yesterday, they are the bomb, a beautiful red, Abdul at the nursery said they are called "Allah's Beard".

I fried some chicken using the pressure cooker you sent me for my birthday over the 4th of July weekend, I had it on a timer just like you said.  It came out perfect, the kids loved it, and all that was left was bones.

Thanks for the great recipe and card with the code from Amazon to buy something, I think I'll ship it FedEx this time as the driver in my area is a stunning redhead, UPS driver is a guy with a beard.

Love You,
EB

p.s.- How is my Brother in Afghanistan doing? I haven't communicated with him since that last operation where they had a black-out.   It's like he's trapped in a dark prism over there, or trapped in a cell."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:43 | 3634464 Lore
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Comment removed out of fear.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:06 | 3634594 NotApplicable
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Hope you get this all sorted out in Gitmo. o_0

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:03 | 3634827 bigrooster
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I just forwarded a copy of your wonderful letter to everyone on my address list.  They can't arrest all of us can they?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 17:28 | 3635360 123dobryden
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Yes, we can.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:27 | 3635855 Yes_Questions
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I down voted you, out of jealousy.

 

+Petunia the red headed bomb and her pressure cooker weekends! 

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3635929 Blano
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Beautiful.

Can I be your friend??  : )

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:31 | 3636221 Stuck on Zero
Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:15 | 3636869 DOT
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Plus 2600 ! 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:30 | 3636890 DaveyJones
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nice

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:37 | 3634436 ragemachinest
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I was thinking about doing the same thing. Have a protest where as many people as possible drop a bunch of key words regularly that make it difficult to sort. :)

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:48 | 3634776 CH1
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Or just stop feeding them.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:30 | 3635868 Yes_Questions
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You've never done blow, have you?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:50 | 3635943 Blano
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Or acid.

Just sayin'.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:03 | 3634578 LuckoftheIrish
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Qintago? May I borrow your new telephone greeting? I'm peppering iMessages and emails with, "fuck you Eric Holder".

Hello is far too quaint for these times. When my Mother-in-Law calls, I'll answer with, "Bombs Away!, What's the code word Jackal?"

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:52 | 3634190 Lets_Eat_Ben
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When your lies are a matter of record and you've told them by the thousands over many years AND then you make an unequivocal statement like, "No one is listening to your phone calls." it will be proven that you were LYING!

Just ask Mr. Holder, Cheif Liar of these United States.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:00 | 3634228 Chump
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True, and absolutely nothing will happen (see Holder).  America is a lawless country occupied by a rogue government intent on doing its level best to amass and maintain as much power as possible.  That should be everyone's base operating assumption.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:05 | 3634584 pods
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When I adopted that idea years ago everything became clear.  Government is about power; expanding and keeping power.

It does not care where the threat comes from. 

Anything, and anyone can be a threat.

pods

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:44 | 3634765 Clark Bent
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Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master-

George Washington

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:08 | 3635986 Lets_Eat_Ben
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+1

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:08 | 3635988 James-Morrison
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Well, we have a raging one..

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:50 | 3634503 NotApplicable
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As if it matters...

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:48 | 3634777 Totentänzerlied
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Self-indemnification only matters if there is a non-zero probability that one will ever be tried on relevant charges.

In other words, they are bragging because they are untouchable. If you disagree that they are untouchable, please point to an example of US state power decreasing over any time period since 1913. The trend is not your friend.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:48 | 3636628 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:42 | 3634151 lolmao500
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Not to mention his treasonous crimes.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:43 | 3634160 Divided States ...
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The easier question would be WHAT THE FUCK ISNT HE LYING ABOUT....

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:38 | 3634441 Bay of Pigs
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That's the problem with sociopaths and pathological liars. They are incapable of telling the truth.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:34 | 3635881 Yes_Questions
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And Presidents, don't forget them.  Especially during the now 2year job interview.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:51 | 3636415 disabledvet
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the problem comes up when "you start believing in your own lies." that's why the media is all onboard warrantless wiretaps of Ameiricans and now even their own journalists. they simply don't have a clue how "truth seeking" impacts "their business model" at all anymore. this in the age of the i-phone no less!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:01 | 3634558 americanspirit
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Preferably feet first - by which I mean being carried out of the White House in an easy chair. What else could I possible mean?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:37 | 3635891 Yes_Questions
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Nothing, not a single other thing.

 

Long Live the Queen!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:24 | 3635848 MissCellany
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The first time I saw O speak, my initial thought was, "He's slicker than Willie ever was...and he knows it."

I shut off the TV as fast as I could. Still can't stand to watch the creep...or any of them anymore...of either pseudo-party.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:39 | 3635897 Yes_Questions
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You're better than me.  I bought into for a few months, I must admit.  Lost the glimmer before Nov. 08, but it worked on me at first.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:34 | 3635879 Go Tribe
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If the shooting actually starts it'll be hard to stop. Somewhat contagious I imagine.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:55 | 3636280 markettime
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When is he not lying?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:10 | 3636460 Silver Bug
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Of course he is lying. they lie about everything!

 

http://schiffblog.blogspot.ca/

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:43 | 3636623 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:41 | 3634144 nope-1004
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This would explain why he's in office.

http://youtu.be/3gXOV_XWJck?t=2m37s

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:44 | 3634168 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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What is astonishing to see in this day and age, with the ready availability of video archives and the ability to post and distribute said archives, is how the Liar simply keeps Lying. In general. And it seems to be getting even worse.

Bernanke interviews from 2005 through the debacle, Obama as Senator and then Presidential Candidate, etc.

Rule # 1 = All the rumors are true

Rule # 2 = Deny everything

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:37 | 3634434 eclectic syncretist
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Kiss my ass Obama. and then go and do something for your country, and for the people of your country, rather than consolidating power over your country into a limited number of hands.  Spoonfeed this shit to the NSA you asshole.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3635967 Yes_Questions
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go and do something for your country!

 

Bares Repeating.

 

Oh, and, Kiss mine too.  You Owe It To Us, you know.  Millions of good Americans worked very hard to get the vote for you and what, THIS?

 

Oh, you've got some toothpaste to put back in the tube, Mr. Obama.  

 

I am the son of fighters against tyrants, I am an heir to freedom.  This "Survailance" does not scare me, dispite the fact I am probably doing something wrong.  You see, I am totally free.  Take me behind the chemical sheds, so what?  I don't fear loosing my human existence in this time.  What you and the owners may not understand, Mr. President, is there are Ideas Worth Fighting For, and we know this. Deeply in our hearts.  One of those Ideas is Freedom.

 

Real, Freedom. 

 

So, I'll leave you with this.  Tonight, you attempted empathy describing you'll one day be a "private citizen".  However close to that description you think you are a few years from now, may you note how the view from your secret service approved windows remind you how much this cannot be true.

 

Until you are FREE as well.

 

 


 

 


Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:45 | 3636625 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:52 | 3634511 NotApplicable
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The only thing TPTB need to know about are memory holes and signal to noise ratios. Everything else is merely an opportunity to exploit (read: divide and conquer).

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:46 | 3636626 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 12:55 | 3634208 Stoploss
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Phone carriers better prepare for a mass exodus of phone service.

AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, you got trouble..

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:02 | 3634233 V in PA
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They'll just offer an S4 if you stay / to get you back.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:07 | 3634598 NotApplicable
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Oooh... shiny!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:04 | 3634244 Groundhog Day
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how do you delete a Facebook account?  anyone? I was just looking for a reason to close that fucking thing, will save me 20 minutes a month

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 13:25 | 3634370 rustymason
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i couldn't. I tried to run the advertised hacker programs but they didn't work. The best thing to do is to delete all of your data.  Keep checking back every few weeks because old stuff will keep turning up on your page.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:59 | 3634813 Umh
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It might even be worthwhile to replace stuff with filler material instead of just deleting it. I would suggest using freely available stuff like the default wallpapers provided on computers. After you know that everything is overlaid then change the contact information. There is no real need to delete the account; let them back it up forever.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:22 | 3634901 LostAtSea
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except, deleting the account is a vote of no-confidence to Facebook. Send them the message that you wont use a system which is serving as a spy-tool for the gov.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 15:44 | 3634980 Kirk2NCC1701
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'The system' doesn't give a crap about your 'message'.  The ONLY thing that counts are the things that truly impact the system.

Short of growing balls and protest -- like they do in Turkey, etc -- you/we can overload their bandwidth (ability to digest, etc).  Encrpyt EVERYTHING.   Make them burn up RAM, CPU and HD resources. And make them use more human resources than they have. 

When the real cost of extraction (energy, manpower) exceeds the benefit of extraction, behavior will change.  This is equally true in mining as it is in IT/spycraft.

"Resistance is not terrorism".  Resistance happens when legitimate forms of objection and correction are exhausted, and The People are fed up with sock puppets and tyrants.  Let the 'Sheriff of Nottingham' and their masters quake in their boots.  The People shall not be denied.

"Freeeeeeedom!" -Braveheart

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 20:31 | 3635869 Dave Thomas
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Things like getting your own e-mail service, a pop account with SSL access, and downloading all your mail every day to your computer. People wondered why Google gave away almost unlimited space for free. Now you know.

Jam to this YouTube vid while you drop to a bash shell and do some uber encrypting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C09lJQ4Blks

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 14:14 | 3634626 LuckoftheIrish
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It's in your account settings somewhere. I've done it.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 06:35 | 3636713 TWSceptic
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You can't immediately delete it, you can only start the procedure to close the account. It will be closed only after several weeks IF you don't login again. Also they will keep all data on the server anyway. So it doesn't matter that you closed it, only the public will be unable to see it (friends, family). The people in power will still be able to access everything you ever typed on that site.

 

So closing that account isn't very useful. I just keep everything private and only type in very general information. I use FB for promoting the business as it's free, never use the personal account.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!