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Shoot The PRISM-Gate Messenger: Obama To Launch Criminal Probe Into NSA Leaks

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Suddenly embroiled in too many scandals to even list, and humiliated by a publicly-exposed (because everyone knew about the NSA superspy ambitions before, but with one major difference: it was a conspiracy theory....  now it is a conspiracy fact) surveillance scandal that makes Tricky Dick look like an amateur, earlier today, as expected, Obama came out and publicly declared "I am not a hacker" and mumbled something about "security", "privacy" and "inconvenience." He went on to explain how the government "welcomes the debate" of all three in the aftermath of the public disclosure that every form of electronic communication is intercepted and stored by the US government (now that said interception is no longer secret, of course) but more importantly how it is only the government, which is naturally here to help, that should be the ultimate arbiter in deciding what is best for all.

Yet the PRISM-gate scandal which is sure to only get worse with time as Americans slowly realize they are living in a Orwellian police state, meant Obama would have to do more to appease a public so furious even the NYT issued a scathing editorial lamenting the obliteration of Obama's credibility. Sure enough, the president did. Reuters reports that the first course of action by the US government will be to... shoot the messenger.

Reuters reports that "President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday."

And how did Reuters learn this: from "law enforcement and security officials who were not authorized to speak publicly."

The mimetic absurdity of the narrative is just too surreal to even contemplate for more than a minute before bursting out in laughter: the administration's plans to launch criminal charges against those who "leaked" its Nixonian espionage masterplan involving every US (and world) citizen using the Internet, revealed by another group of sources leaking in secret. Pure poetry.

Of course, this was inevitable - once you start down the path of a totalitarian surveillance superstate, you don't stop until all dissent is crushed: either peacefully through submission to debt serfdom, or, well, not so peacefully.

It was unclear on Friday whether a complaint had been submitted by the publicity-shy National Security Agency, which was most directly involved in the collection of trillions of telephone and email communications.

 

However, one U.S. official with knowledge of the situation said that given the extent and sensitivity of the recent leaks, federal law may compel officials to open an investigation.

 

A criminal probe would represent another turn in the Obama administration's battle against national security leaks. This effort has been under scrutiny lately because of a Justice Department investigation that has involved searches of the phone records of Associated Press journalists and a Fox News reporter.

But what's worst, is that it may all turn very personal against the same journalists who dared to divulge the NSA's spy-op:

Journalists involved in The Guardian and Washington Post articles have reported in depth on WikiLeaks, the website known for publishing secret U.S. government documents.

 

The Post report on the PRISM program was co-written by Laura Poitras, a filmmaker who has been working on a documentary on WikiLeaks, with the cooperation of its founder Julian Assange, and who last year made a short film about Bill Binney, a former NSA employee who became a whistleblowing critic of the agency.

 

Last year, the web magazine Salon published a lengthy article by the author of the Guardian report, Glenn Greenwald, accusing U.S. authorities of harassing Poitras when she left and re-entered the United States. Greenwald also has written frequently about Assange.

 

The Guardian and Post stories appeared in the same week that U.S. Army Private First Class Bradley Manning went on trial in Maryland accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks.

 

In an email to Reuters on Friday, Poitras rejected the notion that the trial had any impact on the timing of her story.

 

"I am fully aware we are living in a political climate where national security reporting is being targeted by the government, however, I don't think fear should stop us from reporting these stories," Poitras wrote.

 

"To suggest that the timing of the NSA PRISM story is linked in any way to other events or stories I'm following is simply wrong. Like any journalist, I have many contacts and follow multiple stories."

 

Kris Coratti, a Washington Post spokeswoman, said the timing of the paper's publication of Poitras' story had nothing to do with Manning's trial and that Assange had played no role in arranging or encouraging the story.

 

Greenwald did not respond to emailed requests for comment. The Guardian's editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, declined to comment.

Needless to say, once political retribution for publicizing the nuances of the police state becomes a personal affair targeting the very journalists whose task is to provide much needed information, the first amendment is basically finished.

Alas, on the path to tyranny the loss of rights and privileges, let alone the occasional amendment written on a very old parchment and which nobody follows or cares about, is inevitable.

And it is up to the citizens of such a tyrannical government to reclaim their nation. Which they will... Just as soon as The Bachelorette/Big Brother (no pun intended)/X Factor is over and the next disability check clears.

 

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Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:32 | 3636042 ebworthen
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"4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution violently raped; Government to investigate those who called the Police and intervene."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:38 | 3636050 Zer0head
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cloned denials by the tech princes(ses) of Silicon Valley, FB, Goog, Apple, MrSofty, AOL, Marissa (perma smile) Meyer, et al

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5842291

 

Friends, welcome to 1934

 

and where did the pres spend last night?

why it was dinner at Vinnies

http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/06/president-obama-to-visit-silicon-valley...

 

Hugo Boss, Bayer, IBM, Siemens etc would be so proud


Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:47 | 3636092 true brain
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All this begs the question: are black people capable of high civilization. Obama came from the civil right movement and it is just shocking to see how he is turning his back on that which made him possible. It seems that he fits right in with the African dictators.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:57 | 3636130 alien-IQ
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wow...I'll bet you are just about the smartest guy on your bowling team aren't you? the pride of the double wide community.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:12 | 3636169 true brain
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Stick your head under your own politically correct ass. Ignore the obvious and hope reality will be better. Pathetic. I voted for Obama. But there are just some reality one can not ignore. Which part of turning his back on civil didn't you get. Alien iq more like dumb ass iq.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:16 | 3636320 Precious
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Leekerz beevair: Vee vill be repording diss to your zuperiors at dee Geshtapo. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:20 | 3636342 Chupacabra-322
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The Anonymous leak.

Here's the candy.

http://thedocs.hostzi.com/

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:10 | 3636462 espirit
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Get your free O'Bamaphone* at any participating location.

*Some restrictions may apply.  We want to make sure you're "connected" whether you can afford it or not.

(It's an Ah-ha moment)

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:39 | 3636609 Supernova Born
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This thread shows another reason for the wisdom of the racial discrimination policy.

Racism is used to distract from the actual topic at hand.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:33 | 3636747 GetZeeGold
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Racism has sorta lost it's meaning anymore when you can just apply it to anyone that disagrees with you.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:54 | 3636844 imaginalis
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USA

United Stasi of America

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:58 | 3636993 Race Car Driver
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... where the People speak and the government listens!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:07 | 3637007 Acet
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The United States of America, the land where Government does listen to the common man!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 16:43 | 3637712 Freddie
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The main thing about race with Obama is that he can get away with anything.  Being a Democrat gives him some teflon but being a "black" Democrat mans he is just about untouchable.  He is not even probably 30% black.

I cannot stand the Bushes but if Bush or Reagan did 1/10 of the stuff Obama - they would be impeached in a week.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:27 | 3636954 dark pools of soros
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and the tribe isn't racist?

http://www.jewfaq.org/gentiles.htm#Intermarriage

 

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:17 | 3636872 stant
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did i not read one of the boston bombers had a free phone? dont think this about stoping terrorist. its to get in someones back pocket

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:20 | 3636942 boogerbently
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So, obamas not mad about any violation of rights.

He's mad about them giving away his dirty little secrets.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 11:34 | 3639073 Muddy1
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EXACTLY, EXACTLY RIGHT

He's only mad because he got caught.  White House to investigate the leaks, any doubt how this will turn out?

HELLO effen NSA, how do you people sleep at night and live with yourselves?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:50 | 3636521 pods
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So now I guess we can freely hang the flag upside down?

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:03 | 3636634 Supernova Born
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The NSA and Obama would thank you.

That is the exact kind of knee-jerk, "SQUIRREL!" kind of distraction the idiocracy goes apeshit over.

[As in the third post in this comments section.]

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:51 | 3636910 toady
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Exactly. All of this call detail / prism stuff was common knowledge within a year or so of the patriot act (when someone finally finished reading the thing!)

Have people actually been under the impression that their data/calls were NOT being monitored? I think not...

So why the big media distraction now? Did something major happen at the meeting with the Chinese? Or are they providing cover for something else?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:44 | 3636969 Bad Attitude
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Good point. While this PRISM news is important, it distracts people from the much more serious IRS scandal, which is really bigger than the IRS. Dear Leader has been using multiple federal government agencies to harass and intimidate his political opponents.

And, we should not forget about Benghazi or Fast and Furious. There are actual dead bodies behind those scandals - 4 for Benghazi, and 400-ish for F&F.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:34 | 3637565 toady
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I'm sure there will be pardons all around if anything comes of any of these investigations.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:03 | 3636640 Parrotile
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Seeing as flying the flag inverted commonly means "I'm in Distess - Assistance required" (same meanig a the "V" flag) who were you hoping might help?

There's a very long list of Countries that'll not give a damn, however you might be lucky with Australia, seeing as we're still somewhat in your "good books" for the moment.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:39 | 3636896 pods
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My line of thinking is that 90%+ have zero clue as to the significance of said act, and if even a small percentage were to actually figure it out, it would be a good thing.

When I explain things to people about certain truths in our society (namely origins of money, etc) they are very receptive to learning more.

pods

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:17 | 3636332 James_Cole
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Stick your head under your own politically correct ass. Ignore the obvious and hope reality will be better. Pathetic. 

 

It's true true brain, your thesis is bulletproof, the Negroes are the only race I know of that has ever done ill to their fellow man. 

Now, if someone could come up with an incident where a member of the white race did something abhorrent to another human being I'd say maybe - maybe - there's a debate to be had.

But as I'm fairly confident (like you true brain I have no knowledge of history) that no such case exists we can consider this closed.

So in closing, the downfall of America is entirely the fault of the negro race - always keepin' the white man down.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:20 | 3636338 Precious
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<- history assclown

<- lame sarcasm

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:18 | 3636637 Supernova Born
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Dogs are to squirrels as some ZH'ers are to...?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:13 | 3636470 espirit
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Whiteman nolike Redman.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:40 | 3637178 FeralSerf
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"The only good Indian is a dead Indian." -- General Sheridan

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:56 | 3637324 IrritableBowels
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I work with a Redman, last name Whiteman.  Before I met him, I assumed he was Jewish and everybody was pronouncing his name incorrectly.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 17:59 | 3637863 roadhazard
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Don't forget the damn hippies.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:36 | 3637063 Reptil
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what the hell does the race of a stooge reading teleprompter messages have anything to do with the 4th amendment being shredded.

that is NOT the issue. please don't detract?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:34 | 3637170 tmosley
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lol, you voted for Obama and you think its the blacks that are the problem?

FYI, there have been African civilizations.  You just ton't hear about them much, because our history classes are very Euro-centric.  Nubia, Axum, and Ethiopia are all good examples.  In addition, there is now evidence that the iron age began in modern-day Nigeria, although Egypt appears to have had limited iron working abilities earlier than that (but with meteoric iron, not smelted).

Collectivism took strong hold in Africa long ago, and it now reaches its tentacles out to the rest of the world.  Let's not let it do to us what it did to them, yes?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:23 | 3636199 otto skorzeny
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You're right-look at how well the negroes are doing running Dee-troit. And other than the negro that did some shit with peanuts feel free to list all of the great accomplishments of Africans(chucking a basketball aside).

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:28 | 3636216 kito
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only otto and his perfect blood is worthy of life...............................

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:24 | 3636351 Precious
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Kito the Tel Aviv office manager for Southern Poverty Law Center ... to the rescue.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:42 | 3636396 kito
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oh how precious!!!.................

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:45 | 3636402 Precious
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kito ... how effeminate !

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:49 | 3636411 kito
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is that bad???

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:58 | 3636430 Precious
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Not if you want to become somebody's bar of soap.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:01 | 3636541 spine001
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Fools! Dont fight over race. This is about privileges of the few. Nothing to do with race. Race is a great tool to divide and conquer...and we are falling for it

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:09 | 3636642 Supernova Born
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8 comments in this sub-string and not a single mention of PRISM, the NSA or Obama?

Another win for the racist card.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:44 | 3636759 francis_sawyer
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8 comments in this sub-string, not a single mention of PRISM, NSA, or Obama

Another win for Dan Akroyd & Jane Curtain playing the politically palatable version of "Point Counter Point" on ZH...

~~~

There ~ Fixed it...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:15 | 3636801 lakecity55
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I already brought that up, thanks to another ZHer for figuring out the troll attack.

The war is over there, men!

Saddle up!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:37 | 3636965 francis_sawyer
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"The war is over there, men!"

~~~

That's a cop out...

Wars are where they always have been... INSIDE YOUR HEAD... Political 'Correctness', in of itself is a war... It's a war between you thinking that you're an enlightened being [you're NOT a UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE], and the reality that your delusion of being a unique snowflake evaporates in an instant when the reality of being flesh & bone gets factored in...

Political 'Correctness' is a foible hoisted upon the general population [which received a great assist after the advent of mass media]... Previously, it was mostly reserved to the "gentlemen class"... In BOTH cases, it was a facade to hide deceit... The problem now is that those who CONTROL mass media are actually capable of tweaking the dials of political 'correctness' in a manner whereby greater levels of deceit can be achieved [& over a larger populace] than ever before in history...

"Over There" only refers to the physical manifestation of this deceit... But the REAL WAR, as it has always been, is for INDIVIDUALS to see truth for themselves... The less people there are who understand truth, or who hide behind synthetic notions & comfort zones, the worse things appear to be "over there"...

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:45 | 3636250 maskone909
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Nba is ran by david stern, who btw never touched a bball in his fuckin life.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:09 | 3636310 kito
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annnnnndddd???????? its a business....its about marketing, branding...............its not about basketball.....he not a fuckin coach........hes the reason you can be a bench warmer in the nba making millions.....................

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:28 | 3636357 Precious
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Hey shit for brains. Why don't you just let the racists have their 1st Amendment say and stay the fuck out of it.  Or are you too stupid to know when to STFU.  Fucking dumb ass.  Like your some fucking hero of the oppressed. You make me fucking sick. Self righteous POS.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:29 | 3636364 LetThemEatRand
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Hey shit for brains.  The whole point of the 1st amendment is that people get to call out ignorant shit heads.  It doesn't mean that you get to spout your ignorant bullshit and we all have to shut up.  Read the document some time and then send me a telegraph or whatever else you backwards fucking idiots do to communicate with each other.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:31 | 3636370 Precious
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Kiss my ass dumb fuck. Kito is no fucking hero. Pretends like he some fucking moral judge. Probably molests children at the bar mitzvah.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:34 | 3636377 James_Cole
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I was waiting for someone to say point blank that people who still hold ridiculous racist views in the western world in this day age are simply pathetic morons, but turns out no one had to say it, precious is doing an excellent job playing to type!

Rage on loser!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:42 | 3636389 Precious
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Cole.  Anyone who follows ZH for more than 1 day knows you are a complete goon.  As for my comments, there isn't even an ounce of rage.  So you're simply a deluded slut who I would wager never lifted a finger for a minority individual or even anyone wrongly oppressed.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:52 | 3636524 Troll Magnet
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HOLY SHIT! FIGHT CLUB, BITCHEZZZ!!!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:54 | 3636526 knukles
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Hit him. No not him. Him. Over there. The other one. Harder. Again.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:36 | 3636752 GetZeeGold
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I'm impressed....so far this has been a fairly civilized bar fight.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:02 | 3636543 otto skorzeny
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What did I miss - I just got back from my klan rally.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:19 | 3636558 knukles
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You wuz jus gettin warmed up

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:57 | 3636532 tango
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Hooray!!! Reading ZH comments is like entering an alternative universe circa 800 AD. Ethnic, religious and racial groups are blamed for all our problems and anything else we can't instantly comprehend was caused by "them" - that nefarious group working to exterminate mankind.

What cultures emphasize and teach is the real issue. If one espouses education, hard work and delayed gratification, industry and savings and another espouses sports, entertainment, political dependency and expediency there will be different outcomes.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:29 | 3636566 knukles
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Well somebody finally has the balls to call it like it is...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:00 | 3636918 dark pools of soros
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it's not plural.. just one fucked up parasitic race is all the hate is thrown towards

Zionists act like people who hate them hate all races..  nice try..  while Israel is completely racists and you can't be Jewish without a jew mom right?  How racist is that? 

Face it, they want all the rest to intermarry or go gay so they are the only pure race left.  And you want to call anyone else racist?

 

 

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:46 | 3636404 kito
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how angry you are precious!!!! who said you shouldnt have your say precious????? remember the jews were defending the kkk right to march!!!!!.....i will still pray for you........

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:52 | 3636414 Precious
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blah blah blah ... LOL

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:52 | 3636422 kito
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....blah.....blah......blah..........

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:55 | 3636426 Precious
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... and yur ugly, too.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:57 | 3636428 fonzannoon
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"As for my comments, there isn't even an ounce of rage."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:59 | 3636435 kito
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must be like that chinese tungsten coin.................looks like gold, weighs like gold.....but not an ounce of gold....................

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:01 | 3636440 Precious
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Wrong call ref.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:05 | 3636444 fonzannoon
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that's kind of the point isn't it? Why do you get to make all the calls?

Precious, I am begging you, please don't make me agree with james cole.

seriously, I am begging you.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:07 | 3636452 Precious
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Read the thread.  I said leave them alone.  Instead Kito acts like he some kind of fucking Solomon. Makes me ill.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:09 | 3636458 fonzannoon
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I get that it annoys you, but who are you to tell him to stay out of it?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:19 | 3636478 Precious
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The whole point of this fucking place is to let people vent.  Not to be some kind of fucking PC hate crime see-something-say-something juvenile rat. There are 99 million places to be PC. This place shouldn't be about censoring the politically incorrect and inarticulate.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:34 | 3636496 kito
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you can vent and i can vent.....................funny thing is you are the one telling me to stfu.......................

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:40 | 3636508 Precious
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I'm telling you to get a fucking life.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:52 | 3636586 kito
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but how can i? im a jew!!! only the purebloods such as yourself are worthy of life!!!!!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:47 | 3636592 Precious
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Do you always spend the Sabbath getting blitzed?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:13 | 3636800 lakecity55
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So the gubbermint troll has succeeded in getting you guys off the pure evil of DIck and onto a race topic.

Look, we are all getting fucked here.

Stick with the big picture.

Thanks.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:03 | 3636926 dark pools of soros
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it's not the race topic..  we aren't talking about hating koreans or fins, right??  it's always just one parasitic zionist warmongering debt slaving tribe right?

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:13 | 3636468 James_Cole
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Precious, I am begging you, please don't make me agree with james cole.

seriously, I am begging you.

C'mon Fonz, embrace it. Sooner or later everyone agrees with James Cole. Resistance is futile!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:30 | 3636533 knukles
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LOL
Hit him again. Kick his nuts. Slap his crotchbag. Make him cry. Draw some blood. Quit hitting like a girl. No the other girl

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:57 | 3636432 kito
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lol......i suppose you are a real beauty with that bag over your head..........  ;)

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:02 | 3636436 fonzannoon
Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:10 | 3636449 kito
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haha never fonz!!!!...btw.....holy friggin young de niro..............

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:05 | 3636448 Precious
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Kito has actual personality! And all this time I thought you were just some pre-programmed bot experiment from the University of PC. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:11 | 3636464 kito
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relax, that was just a glitch.....................the bugs in the system havent been worked out completely yet..........................

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:31 | 3636479 Precious
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... slowly remove your finger from the repeating dot key.  The medication should be taking affect any moment ...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:59 | 3636538 knukles
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Fucking hilarious
And all over who gets to call somebody a nigger. Forget what the persons actions are
Lol

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:12 | 3636553 pods
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Sometimes you just gotta sit back and watch. Virtual Fight Club free for all.

Duck, bottle coming your way!

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:06 | 3636792 gould's fisker
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But what was this post about again? I forgot, cause some schmuck with low self esteem wants to act out in front of everyone cause mommy hasn't been listening to his bile, or is this just planned misdirection so those capable can't have an adult exchnage on a somewhat important topic. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:45 | 3636901 pods
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I do think that the topic has been derailed, but most here know of the malfeasance of the empire.

So something like this is just another brick in the wall.  A big brick, but nothing earth shattering.

For myself, I run under the assumption that the government will do whatever it thinks will protect itself and the status quo.

I think the derailment was more a function of when the topic came out (Friday night) than any planned misdirection.

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:17 | 3637026 noless
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Yeah, i assume it's just people piss drunk swinging at their shadow a good portion of the time.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:06 | 3637224 FeralSerf
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"remember the jews were defending the kkk. . ."

Who the fuck are "the jews"?  There is NO "the jews" on this planet dipshit.  

It's anti-Semitic scumbags like you that have  defined "the jews".

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels (who certainly did his part to help create the faux-Jewish state of Israel.)

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:52 | 3636416 WillyGroper
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Blood transfusions.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:31 | 3636568 James
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O.K., Otto, I accept your challenge.

It was a Negro who perfected the process of seperating Plasma from blood.

He died @ a hospital in Atlanta,Ga. from injuries in a car accident. He needed Plasma. They refused because he was Black.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:07 | 3636724 Being Free
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He needed Plasma. They refused because he was Black.

Indeed.  But who were "they"?  "They" were government; a government that instituted and enforced segregation laws.  It's too bad that the civil rights movement while perhaps achieving some small level of success didn't see the real villian

Odd isn't it: if you look at history you'll find all great attrocities had one thing in common they were effected by governments.

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Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:39 | 3637070 Reptil
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what? black people ran Detroit into the ground?

they run the auto industry right? right?

stupid racism. blaming "the other guy". it's AMERICANS of all races who have let it come to this.

but nooooo instead of uniting agains a common enemy (that wants you ALL dead), you're going to poor some oil on the flames of division aren't you?

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:38 | 3636233 nobodyimportant
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I have never been big on racism but Bama is one hell of a teacher and I am learning!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:44 | 3636246 LetThemEatRand
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You idiots do realize that you are playing right into their hands by making this about race and party, right?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:48 | 3636260 fonzannoon
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I saw the old vs young debate raging earlier today with the employment bullshit.

same as it ever was

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:01 | 3636295 true brain
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Yes i realize that i sound like a racist. But i am lashing out because i am so angey. I hope nsa gets all my posts and kiss my ass.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:04 | 3636300 LetThemEatRand
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I don't care if you are racist.  I'm not going to change that if you are, and if you are not that's great for you.  The problem is that people tend towards teams, and issues such as the raping of our Constitutional rights is not a black/white issue.  Obama's race has literally nothing to do with it, but if the sheeple make it about race then they've won.  Again.   This shit is never going to change if people line up behind race, party, ideology, etc.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:10 | 3636313 TheReplacement
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I dare you to go to Chicago and say that to every black man you see.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:13 | 3636322 LetThemEatRand
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So because there are racist blacks....  Never mind. Enjoy your utter stupidity.  Ignorance is bliss.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:16 | 3636334 fonzannoon
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LTER did one better than that. He does not mess around. It's all documented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYz00UQfiPk

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:25 | 3636355 LetThemEatRand
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You are a man of extraordinary magnitude.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:05 | 3636397 Manthong
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Community organizing has worked out real well in Chicago..

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/colin-flaherty/chicago-running-out-of-euphemisms/

gun control, too..

http://newobserveronline.com/mass-shootings-in-america-black-gun-crime-the-leading-cause/

All part of the effectiveness and legacy of the years of hard work by the Chicago Community Organizer-in-Chief.

He was barely a bit player in Chicago, but just wait until you see what legacy develops from 8 years of hard golf and spearheading $10 Trillion dollars of new debt in Washington.

Fundamental Transformation..  It’s the Real Thing.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:00 | 3636540 knukles
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Bingo!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 05:08 | 3636685 Manthong
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And to you who whose feathers are raised by such politically incorrect observations.. think of this..

The “street niggers” of Briton are mostly white but they live like American ghetto slugs.

A psychiatrist there writes of the cases and causes of the plight of those doomed to social hell.

The link below is for one of his books. It is short, concise and an easy read. Buy it or get it from the library.. if you have the stones to face reality. Check out a few of the pages.

http://www.amazon.com/Praise-Prejudice-Necessity-Preconceived-Ideas/dp/1594032025

Oh, and guess what the primary cause of all of this dysfunction is? 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 05:17 | 3636688 SimMaker
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"Oh, and guess what the primary cause of all of this dysfunction is? "

 

Left wing assholes paying the poorest and most usless in society to breed.......for votes.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:31 | 3636744 JohnnyBriefcase
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Us and Them

And after all we're only ordinary men

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 14:01 | 3637333 Manthong
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crud.. "Britain" .. it was late..

But, it you look at it from the perspective of left and right.. the entire system is almost all left, even the ones who are supposed to be center or even right.

Until the whole humanist, relativist, subjective, empirical, positivist, liberal, progressive, collectivist mindset is discredited and a return to the philosophic ideals of individual responsibility, moral integrity, liberty, justice and consequence that produced the Constitution, nothing but trouble is in our future.

A consequence will occur regardless of the path taken.

Right now, it looks like it will like take a nasty societal bitch-slapping and catastrophe to (possibly) return this pathetic culture to sanity.   

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:35 | 3636750 Ain't No Sunshine
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Sooo... only whites are racists????

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:36 | 3636379 Harbanger
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I almost agreed with you, it's not race :) , but it is ideology. Too many minorities are still stuck on the Democrat plantation.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:41 | 3636393 LetThemEatRand
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And there are no dumb fuck rednecks sucking the Republican cock of pretend freedom and America, fuck yeah.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:58 | 3636433 Harbanger
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They're not sucking anything, they're being cheated.  Welfare state and freedom are incompatable.  I can't blame anyone for wanting freedom, the plantation democrats however are are looking to get something from the govt.  We're losing our freedom to maintain what the statists created.  R&D, mostly D.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:03 | 3636446 LetThemEatRand
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Do you ever have an original thought?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:05 | 3636451 Harbanger
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What do you make shit up just to be original?  If something is true, it's true, hippie.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:16 | 3636475 LetThemEatRand
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"Hippie."  Very original, and not even from this decade.  Hey, Rush is on.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:57 | 3636530 Troll Magnet
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on what? oxycontin?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:03 | 3636544 knukles
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5stars

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:43 | 3637291 FeralSerf
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". . . plantation democrats however are are looking to get something from the govt."

The "plantation democrats" were NOT looking to get something from the gov't."   During Reconstruction it was the plantation republicans, i.e. the former slaves that were getting something for nothing that the gov't. confiscated from the "plantation democrats".

40 acres and a mule. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:15 | 3636555 BidnessMan
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Every Jim Crow Cracker in the southern US lynching blacks and brutally enforcing segregation for 100 years after Reconstruction was a Yellow Dog Democrat ("I would vote for a Yellow Dog if it ran as a Democrat").  Lester Maddox chased blacks out of his Atlanta restaurant with an ax handle in 1964, and then got elected as the Democrat governor of Georgia in 1966.  Why are minorities such knee jerk Democrats?  Very odd.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:24 | 3636563 knukles
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The very same Democratic Party playing the race card day in and day out.
Which does piss me off no end, by the way
Great examples

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:39 | 3636755 Ain't No Sunshine
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And the president is adding more and more to the plantation....everyday.

SLAVES!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:09 | 3636797 lakecity55
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Dick probably hates blacks more than any other group, IMO.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:49 | 3636262 flacon
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Ain't nobody got time for dat!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:20 | 3636341 nmewn
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If I may interject.

If GM is alive and Osama is dead & "AQ is on the run" (as proclaimed)...why exactly does the federal government have the need to sift through terabytes of data again?

I suspect why...just want to get some opinions.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:30 | 3636366 James_Cole
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It's actually a system which predicts crime aka pre-crime. There seems to be this conviction that if they have enough information they can predict crime in real time by dipping into extensive databases. 

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/palantir-the-vanguard-of-cyberterro...

Been following it for a while. The sad thing is the public could very easily be convinced this system is a good thing imo. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:41 | 3636391 nmewn
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But it doesn't work...zombie actress (Shannon Richardson) mailed ricin to O'Barry & Bloomberg...panty bomber...Boston bombers...Times square bomber etc.

There is no way they can ever make it work.

Its sheer paranoia & statist capture of common sense...IMHO.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:45 | 3636400 fonzannoon
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when was the last fuckin time someone actually opened an envelope and dropped dead of something?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:46 | 3636403 nmewn
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IRS audit letter? ;-)

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:48 | 3636409 fonzannoon
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I'm on here for this long and I still tee them up for you,

fuck!

sharp as a bowling ball I am.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:55 | 3636425 nmewn
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Who's on first?...Bud & Lou...lol.

Seriously, there is no way a software program can sort it in real time to stop anything. Conversations will have been had one on one long before. Inert supplies will have been gathered...long before.

All they're ever gonna see is...GO!...then its too late.

(Preying on their paranoia) ;-)

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:08 | 3636438 James_Cole
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Seriously, there is no way a software program can sort it in real time to stop anything. Conversations will have been had one on one long before. Inert supplies will have been gathered...long before.

Lot's of software already accurately predicts in real-time many things. Spend some time reading about palantir and you'll probably change your opinion on this. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:10 | 3636461 nmewn
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"Fikri isn’t real—he’s the John Doe example Palantir uses in product demonstrations that lay out such hypothetical examples."

From your link.

Plus...the spooks had his fingerprints & DNA from Cairo...he was a known known...nothing to do with everyone having to shut up on their free speech for fear of being branded a terrorist or them snooping on cell calls to your house.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:06 | 3636545 knukles
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They knew him. And still very competently screwed the pooch
Hooray!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:51 | 3636584 James_Cole
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"Fikri isn’t real—he’s the John Doe example Palantir uses in product demonstrations that lay out such hypothetical examples."

From your link.

That's an old story, this type of technology is used everyday in many different fields. I work for a company making similar software but not for intelligence enterprises. It's very effective. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:15 | 3636646 Parrotile
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The Western World's "Popular Press" is full of (always anecdotal) evidence that small brown envelopes from your "favourite " Government Revenue Service (IRS, ATO, IR (UK), etc.)can have, and maybe have had just that effect!

Hard evidence? That's an entirely different proposition . . . .

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:50 | 3636413 James_Cole
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But it doesn't work...zombie actress (Shannon Richardson) mailed ricin to O'Barry & Bloomberg...panty bomber...Boston bombers...Times square bomber etc.

It does work actually, which is why it's so insidious. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:58 | 3636434 nmewn
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When/where has it worked?

We're talking about mass intercepts...not narrowed down by investigation & confirmation to focus on a few individuals.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:58 | 3636536 pods
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Oh it works, wait till you squeak loud enough to make them notice.

And can you imagine the hard on the sociopaths get when reading all our most private thoughts?

Right now some fuckhead at the NSA is doing the "tuck dance" from the Silence of the Lambs while reading my dirty emails to Mrs. pods about what I want to do to her.

"It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again."

Hang on, someone's knocking on the door.

pods

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:01 | 3636783 shovelhead
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Tuck Dance?

Lol,

Why I love ZH. Learn something new every day.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 18:41 | 3636715 WAMO556
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Maybe it does work!

Feinstein said that "they caught lotsa terris"

Maybe the ones that get through are ALLOWED to get through.

One intelligence officer used to say: to predict the future, you create it.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:36 | 3636378 putaipan
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to put down occupy? cann patreaus? ... do anything they want? idunno . whaty'oo got?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:06 | 3636793 lakecity55
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Hey! I can't find Ron Paul's website on the net anymore. It's like it just vanished!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:00 | 3636437 ghandi
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Because money talks, and needs opinions, given unwillingly oftentimes.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:53 | 3636274 maskone909
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Yes its actually quite brilliant i must say. Tptb know that, given the history of this country, their deviant behavior will forever go unchallenged by racially diversionary means. Think about it, any white guy who criticizes the pres is automatically a racist. The only hope this country has is for ethnic groups to get out there and be heard. But with the majority of ethnic groups being dependent on entitlements and intentionally segregated into impoverished communities, their isnt much hope for any political activism(i hope im wrong). Its also a big reason they want imigration reform passed... More peeps dependent on entitilements= more votes= more political ignorance. Its all about voter population

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:11 | 3636318 TheReplacement
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+1

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:14 | 3636328 LetThemEatRand
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Me too!  Hey, what's that cool sound in that big building with the big metal things?  Everyone else is going in.  Let's go!

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