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From 9/11 To PRISMgate - How The Carlyle Group LBO'd The World's Secrets

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The short but profitable tale of how 483,000 private individual have "top secret" access to the nation's most non-public information begins in 2001. "After 9/11, intelligence budgets were increased, new people needed to be hired, it was a lot easier to go to the private sector and get people off the shelf," and sure enough firms like Booz Allen Hamilton - still two-thirds owned by the deeply-tied-to-international-governments investment firm The Carlyle Group - took full advantage of Congress' desire to shrink federal agencies and their budgets by enabling outside consultants (already primed with their $4,000 cost 'security clearances') to fulfill the needs of an ever-more-encroaching-on-privacy administration.

Booz Allen (and other security consultant providing firms) trade publicly with a cloak of admitted opacity due to the secrecy of their government contracts ("you may not have important information concerning our business, which will limit your insight into a substantial portion of our business") but the actions of Diane Feinstein who promptly denounced "treasonous" Edward Snowden, "have muddied the waters," for the stunning 1.1 million (or 21% of the total) private consultants with access to "confidential and secret" government information.

Perhaps the situation of gross government over-spend and under-oversight is summed up best, "it's very difficult to know what contractors are doing and what they are billing for the work — or even whether they should be performing the work at all."

First, Diane Feinstein's take on it all...

“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”

So how did all this get started?... (via AP)

The reliance on contractors for intelligence work ballooned after the 9/11 attacks. The government scrambled to improve and expand its ability to monitor the communication and movement of people who might threaten another attack.


"After 9/11, intelligence budgets were increased, new people needed to be hired," Augustyn said. "It was a lot easier to go to the private sector and get people off the shelf."


The reliance on the private sector has grown since then, in part because of Congress' efforts to limit the size of federal agencies and shrink the budget.

Which has led to what appears to be major problems.

But critics say reliance on contractors hasn't reduced the amount the government spends on defense, intelligence or other programs.


Rather, they say it's just shifted work to private employers and reduced transparency. It becomes harder to track the work of those employees and determine whether they should all have access to government secrets.


"It's very difficult to know what contractors are doing and what they are billing for the work — or even whether they should be performing the work at all,"

... And to the current PRISMgate whistleblowing situation:

Of the 4.9 million people with clearance to access "confidential and secret" government information, 1.1 million, or 21 percent, work for outside contractors, according to a report from Clapper's office.


Of the 1.4 million who have the higher "top secret" access, 483,000, or 34 percent, work for contractors.




Because clearances can take months or even years to acquire, government contractors often recruit workers who already have them.

Why not - it's lucrative!!

Snowden says he accessed and downloaded the last of the documents that detailed the NSA surveillance program while working in an NSA office in Hawaii for Booz Allen, where he says he was earning $200,000 a year.

Analysts caution that any of the 1.4 million people with access to the nation's top secrets could have leaked information about the program - whether they worked for a contractor or the government.

For individuals and firms alike.

Booz Allen has long navigated those waters well.


The firm was founded in 1914 and began serving the U.S. government in 1940, helping the Navy prepare for World War II. In 2008, it spun off the part of the firm that worked with private companies and abroad. That firm, called Booz & Co., is held privately.


Booz Allen was then acquired by the Carlyle Group, an investment firm with its own deep ties to the government. In November 2010, Booz Allen went public.  The Carlyle Group still owns two-thirds of the company's shares.

Or, a full-majority stake.

Curiously once public, The Booz Allens of the world still operate like a psuedo-private company, with extensive confidential cloaks preventing the full disclosure of financial data. But don't worry - we should just trust them. Via Bloomberg's Jonathan Weil.

Psst, here's a stock tip for you. There's a company near Washington with strong ties to the U.S. intelligence community that has been around for almost a century and has secret ways of making money -- so secret that the company can't tell you what they are. Investors who buy just need to have faith.


To skeptics, this might seem like a pitch for an investment scam. But as anyone who has been paying attention to the news might have guessed, the company is Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp.




"Because we are limited in our ability to provide information about these contracts and services," the company said in its latest annual report, "you may not have important information concerning our business, which will limit your insight into a substantial portion of our business, and therefore may be less able to fully evaluate the risks related to that portion of our business."


This seems like it would be a dream arrangement for some corporations: Not only is Booz Allen allowed to keep investors uninformed, it's required to. I suppose we should give the company credit for being transparent about how opaque it is.

And while the media and popular attention is currently focused on who, if anyone else, may be the next Snowden struck by a sudden pang of conscience, perhaps a better question is what PE behemoth Carlyle, with a gargantuan $170 billion in AUM, knows, and why it rushed to purchase Booz Allen in the months after the Bear Stearns collapse, just when everyone else was batting down the hatches ahead of the biggest financial crash in modern history.

From Bloomberg, May 2008:

Carlyle Group, the private-equity firm run by David Rubenstein, agreed to acquire Booz Allen Hamilton Inc.'s U.S. government-consulting business for $2.54 billion, its biggest buyout since the credit markets collapsed in July.


The purchase would be Carlyle's biggest since it agreed to buy nursing-home operator Manor Care Inc. last July for $6.3 billion. Deal-making may be rebounding from a 68 percent decline in the first quarter as investment banks begin writing new commitments for private-equity transactions. Buyouts ground to a halt last year because of a global credit freeze triggered by record U.S. subprime-mortgage defaults.


The Booz Allen government-consulting unit has more than 18,000 employees and annual sales of more than $2.7 billion. Its clients include branches of the U.S. military, the Department of Homeland Security and the World Bank.


Carlyle, based in Washington, manages $81.1 billion in assets [ZH: that was 5 years ago - the firm now boasts $170 billion in AUM]. Rubenstein founded the firm in 1987 with William Conway and Daniel D'Aniello. The trio initially focused on deals tied to government and defense.


Carlyle and closely held Booz Allen have attracted high-level officials from the government. Carlyle's senior advisers have included former President George H.W. Bush, former British Prime Minister John Major, and Arthur Levitt, the ex-chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.


R. James Woolsey, who led the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency from 1993 to 1995, is a Booz Allen executive. Mike McConnell, the U.S. director of national intelligence, is a former senior vice president with the company.



Carlyle last year sold a minority interest in itself to Mubadala Development Co., an investment fund affiliated with the government of Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates.

And in addition to the UAE, who can possibly forget Carlyle's Saudi connection. From the WSJ circa 2001:

If the U.S. boosts defense spending in its quest to stop Osama bin Laden's alleged terrorist activities, there may be one unexpected beneficiary: Mr. bin Laden's family.


Among its far-flung business interests, the well-heeled Saudi Arabian clan -- which says it is estranged from Osama -- is an investor in a fund established by Carlyle Group, a well-connected Washington merchant bank specializing in buyouts of defense and aerospace companies.


Through this investment and its ties to Saudi royalty, the bin Laden family has become acquainted with some of the biggest names in the Republican Party. In recent years, former President Bush, ex-Secretary of State James Baker and ex-Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci have made the pilgrimage to the bin Laden family's headquarters in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Mr. Bush makes speeches on behalf of Carlyle Group and is senior adviser to its Asian Partners fund, while Mr. Baker is its senior counselor. Mr. Carlucci is the group's chairman.


Osama is one of more than 50 children of Mohammed bin Laden, who built the family's $5 billion business, Saudi Binladin Group, largely with construction contracts from the Saudi government. Osama worked briefly in the business and is believed to have inherited as much as $50 million from his father in cash and stock, although he doesn't have access to the shares, a family spokesman says. Because his Saudi citizenship was revoked in 1994, Mr. bin Laden is ineligible to own assets in the kingdom, the spokesman added.


People familiar with the family's finances say the bin Ladens do much of their banking with National Commercial Bank in Saudi Arabia and with the London branch of Deutsche Bank AG. They also use Citigroup Inc. and ABN Amro, the people said.


"If there were ever any company closely connected to the U.S. and its presence in Saudi Arabia, it's the Saudi Binladin Group," says Charles Freeman, president of the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington nonprofit concern that receives tens of thousands of dollars a year from the bin Laden family. "They're the establishment that Osama's trying to overthrow."


A Carlyle executive said the bin Laden family committed $2 million through a London investment arm in 1995 in Carlyle Partners II Fund, which raised $1.3 billion overall. The fund has purchased several aerospace companies among 29 deals. So far, the family has received $1.3 million back in completed investments and should ultimately realize a 40% annualized rate of return, the Carlyle executive said. But a foreign financier with ties to the bin Laden family says the family's overall investment with Carlyle is considerably larger. He called the $2 million merely an initial contribution. "It's like plowing a field," this person said. "You seed it once. You plow it, and then you reseed it again."


The Carlyle executive added that he would think twice before accepting any future investments by the bin Ladens. "The situation's changed now," he said. "I don't want to spend my life talking to reporters."

We can clearly see why. We can also clearly see why nobody has mentioned Carlyle so far into the Booz Allen fiasco.

A U.S. inquiry into bin Laden family business dealings could brush against some big names associated with the U.S. government. Former President Bush said through his chief of staff, Jean Becker, that he recalled only one meeting with the bin Laden family, which took place in November1998. Ms. Becker confirmed that there was a second meeting in January 2000, after being read the ex-president's subsequent thank-you note. "President Bush does not have a relationship with the bin Laden family," says Ms. Becker. "He's met them twice."


Mr. Baker visited the bin Laden family in both 1998 and 1999, according to people close to the family. In the second trip, he traveled on a family plane. Mr. Baker declined comment, as did Mr. Carlucci, a past chairman of Nortel Networks Corp., which has partnered with Saudi Binladin Group on telecommunications ventures.

As one can imagine the rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper the more one digs. For now, we will let readers do their own diligence. We promise the results are fascinating.

Going back to the topic at hand, we will however ask just how much and what kind of confidential, classified, and or Top Secret information is shared "behind Chinese walls" between a Carlyle still majority-owned company and the private equity behemoth's employees and advisors, among which are some of the most prominent political and business luminaries currently alive.  The following is a list of both current and former employees and advisors. We have used Wiki but anyone wishing to comb through the firm's full blown roster of over 1,000 employees and advisors, is welcome to do so at the firm's website.


Political figures

North America
  • Anand Panyarachun, former Prime Minister of Thailand (twice), former member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board until the board was disbanded in 2004  
  • Fidel V. Ramos, former president of the Philippines, Carlyle Asia Advisor Board Member until the board was disbanded in 2004  
  • Peter Chung, former associate at Carlyle Group Korea, who resigned in 2001 after 2 weeks on the job after an inappropriate e-mail to friends was circulated around the world    
  • Thaksin Shinawatra, former Prime Minister of Thailand (twice), former member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board until 2001 when he resigned upon being elected Prime Minister.  


  • Norman Pearlstine - editor-in-chief of Time magazine from (1995–2005), senior advisor telecommunications and media group 2006-

and across the entire globe?

Here is Carlyle, straight from the horse's recently IPOed mouth, courtesy of its most recent public presentation:

Perhaps Bloomberg's Jonathan Weil sums it up best:

There's no easy solution here, aside from the obvious point that the government keeps way too many secrets.

So what happens when one corporation, owned and controlled by the same government's former (and in some cases current) top power brokers, potentially has access to all of the same government's secrets?


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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:22 | 3644495 samsara
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Thank you for spotlighting them.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:42 | 3644561 illyia
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Oh yeah...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:45 | 3644570 ghandi
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A cogent and informative piece.


Good work ZH!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:57 | 3644603 Careless Whisper
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So the Binladin family owns a piece of th Carlyle Group, which owns a piece of Booz Allen, which does the top secret total world survelience grid for the en es a. That hurts my brain.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:01 | 3644618 James_Cole
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Great article. Makes me start to wonder whether Snowden chose to be hired by Booz for exactly this reason? Pretty brilliant. 

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:21 | 3644677 markmotive
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It is time to repeal the ironically-named PATRIOT Act. It is an infringement of constitutional rights and the freedom of men. The Patriot Act is unamerican.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:36 | 3644721 pods
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I would say at this time Amerika is unamerican.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:23 | 3644856 Herd Redirectio...
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David Icke released essentially this information, what, 10 years ago?  And was labelled crazy for his troubles, of course.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:50 | 3644921 Dapper Dan
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So did mike ruppert.

read Crossing The Rubicon,  even prism is mentioned only called primos then.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 05:46 | 3645156 Manthong
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On December 19, 1998, 100 jurors walked into the chamber to vote on two charges.. one of perjury.. one of obstruction of justice.

The charges were a statement of fact that is not possible to refute in the real world.

It had nothing to do with getting jollies in/near the Oval Office or a DNA stained blue dress. The charges were brought after a contentious fight in the US House of Representatives amidst a furious series of defenses by liberals across the country and a fawning media establishment.

The 100 jurors were under oath.

Most of them violated that oath and their obligation because they were politicians duly elected as a result of the 17th Amendment. It was an amendment which contravened the original Constitution of the United States of America and turned a vital organ of the government so ingeniously developed by the founders, from representatives of the state governments into a popularly elected “Parliament of Whores” (cred to P. J. O’Rourke for the term.).

Dianne Feinstein is the Poster Girl for the Parliament.

.. but she should be sharing the pull-out spread and  lesbo embraces with Nancy Pelosi.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:02 | 3645169 Manthong
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  And if you do not believe the 17th Amendment is a violation of the founders genius, consider this..

·         The Parliament of Whores acquitted the perjurer.

·         The (now millionaire) perjurer/celeb pushed through the 2000 CFMA which  overturned the “Bucket Shop” prohibition and gave us the quadrillion dollar death hole that is todays derivatives market.

·         The 17th Amendment happened in 1913 .. as part of the same process that Woodrow Wilson, the Pimp from Princeton, gave us the 16th Amendment (Income Tax) and the Federal Reserve Bank Act..

Have fun “investing”.



Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:24 | 3645198 francis_sawyer
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“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”"


What the fuck do you expect someone like Feinstein to say?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:28 | 3645204 fonzannoon
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I'm lookin at the 10yr Francis, and I am in shock.

Futures off pretty big and treasuries selling off?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:40 | 3645212 francis_sawyer
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The Carlyle Group appears to be dick deep in banking, MSM, & political activism... Most likely have a bunch of judges on the payroll as well

Quel surprise!... I'm shocked! [soon to be waterboarded]...

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:48 | 3645226 fonzannoon
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"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear"

we were warned.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:13 | 3645263 francis_sawyer
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"You see in this world, there's two kinds of people, my friend, those with loaded guns, and those who dig... You dig..."


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 08:15 | 3645393 kralizec
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Gonna need a lot of holes...

Shit, just burn 'em!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 00:12 | 3644939 erg
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I never want to see the jaundiced eyes of Feinstein's ever again.

Carious and cruel.

Edit: Mr. and Mrs. America...turn them all in.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 00:29 | 3644978 Things that go bump
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 The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.” 

I would like to know how revealing a government program that clearly violates the Constitution is a violation of his oath to defend the Constitution. I suppose he violated the law, but it is an illegal and unconstitutional law. 


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 01:01 | 3645016 Buckaroo Banzai
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Everything that comes from Cunt Feinstein's mouth is a lie.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:50 | 3645344 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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“He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”

Probably looking into the mirror when she said this!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:39 | 3644899 Ignatius
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“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason...”


Feinstein ups the ante.  Projection.  I've found that projecting onto others -- what one themselves is doing -- to be among the most reliable theories in psychology.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 01:37 | 3645059 bunnyswanson
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You all know me if you come here regularly enough, I am angry and vocal and have been for years.  Today is garbage pickup day, and as I was walking to sidewalk, a 3 x 1 inch piece of white paper lying on my driveway caught my eye as it was clean and crisp.

here is what it said:

What is treason:  To aid or imbed (sp) someone who is working against your country.

Typed first and then description in hand writing.  Coincidence?  Probably.  School is out so it is not a student.  I am a middle aged struggling single woman who has a low profile.

I think there are a million people working for the goal of the bankers.  All spread out and "embedded" (their word) in our communities. 


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:42 | 3645109 Going Loco
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I met a white farmer who had escaped from Mugabe's Zimbabwe. I asked how Mugabe had succeeded in wiping out Rhodesia. He said it was by use of secret police, embedded in every community, hearing and seeing what was going on and secretly identifying those who the government needed to destroy. He said that it became impossible to trust anyone and therefore when the "veterans" started taking out the white farmers, one by one, nobody knew who they could trust, everyone was on their own. Embedding secret informers in communities has been the favoured tactic of all authoritarian regimes. I sincerely hope that this tactic has not yet been deployed in your country or mine. If it has then I do not know how liberty can survive.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:58 | 3658836 Kobe Beef
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And to think Mugabe didn't have Facebook or PRISM.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:05 | 3645177 The_Small_Lebowski
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i coined the phrase Unmerica, some time after i realised that the country now strictly operates on a "do as i say, not as i do" policy. IT IS ALL LIES!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:05 | 3644629 Go Tribe
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Always amazes me how well the Saudis and Jews get along when there's money to be made. They play us like cheap fiddles.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:28 | 3644872 prains
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Where do you think the Dems and Repubs got the playbook?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:23 | 3645196 Go Tribe
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Very true. They kneel at the feet of their masters.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:30 | 3644875 Widowmaker
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You might make Tyler cry to his mommy.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 05:02 | 3645149 bank guy in Brussels
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Saudi Arabia was a partner of Zionist Israel from the very beginning, when the Sauds were installed in power by British intelligence, pushing aside the Hashemite families that had ruled the Muslim holy land regions for centuries

Some Muslims have written books saying the Saud family, and the founders of their extremist Wahhabi versions of Islam, were both Jewish

Saudi Arabia and Israel are murdering partners today in operations against Iran and Syria

Historically -

The Saudi rulers, propped up by Britain, to rule Arabia and spread an extremist version of Islam, as part of their 'duties' even helped set up the Zionist regime in Israel, back when Zionists were still a minority scorned by most Jews:

« In 1919, at the Paris Conference ending World War I ... The Arab delegation ... was led by Faisal Saeed al-Ismaily ... a Bedouin Sunni steeped in the orthodox version of the religion ... the third son of the Grand Sharif of Mecca.

On Jan. 3, 1919, Faisal and Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, signed the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement for Arab-Jewish cooperation, in which Faisal conditionally accepted the Balfour Declaration, based on the fulfillment of British wartime promises of development of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, on which subject he made the following statement:

"We Arabs ... look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement. Our deputation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted yesterday by the Zionist Organization to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as moderate and proper. We will do our best, in so far as we are concerned, to help them through; we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home.

Even today, the House of Saud's allegiance to the Zionists who have massively displaced the Palestinian population, remains intact. ... »

The House of Saud:
British-Programmed Killer of Muslims
by Ramtanu Maitra

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:27 | 3645203 Go Tribe
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The Faisal-Weizmann Agreement sounds less like a peace treaty and more like a joint declaration of war against those who would question wahabism or zionism. Of course the US government is slowly cleansing America of people who criticize these two groups.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:18 | 3645221 francis_sawyer
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So is ZH...


Edit: Oh look!... A good "down voter" citizen... Here "down voter" do~good doo~bee... Here's your chance to report me:

Remember [as always]... If you see something... SAY something...

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 09:03 | 3645536 Iwanttoknow
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BGIB,thanks for a great post.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:45 | 3644909 DaveyJones
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it hurts more than your brain

once you peer deep enough into the people "who make the rules" you come to realize there are none

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 04:51 | 3645147 bank guy in Brussels
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Project 'Snowden - Snow Job' - the CIA, Booz Allen, and why Snowden may be a fake

CIA-NSA company Booz Allen employed not only Edward Snowden, but Ian Brzezinski, brother of Mika Brzezinski, the millionaire journalist interviewing and pumping Snowden

And Mika is the daughter of master warmonger Zbigniew 'Great Game - Grand Chessboard' Brzezinski, Obama friend and advisor, central US Shadow Government figure with Rockefellers, Henry Kissinger, etc

So NSA 'whistleblower' Edward Snowden is connected directly to the Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergs and all the oligarch families who own the American regime ... and being promoted by America's top shadow gov't families

UK Guardian is CIA-tied corrupt like the New York Times, same modus ... fake lefty-'progressive' on surface, but the Guardian and NYT both take bribes to publish fake 'news' for the CIA.

Other holes in Snowden's story - improbable CV, quick rise from security guard to IT expert for CIA-NSA in Switzerland, shows a diplomatic passport tho usually confiscated after diplomat job ends ... Even if Snowden personally is half-sincere, media hype with Brezinzskis means this whole hype is CIA Operation Mockingbird (media control), done for a reason

As David Harrison of Trade With Dave says: « What are the odds that the lady doing the interviewing about the guy who spilled his guts on the NSA are brother, sister and employee, not to mention children (a super-majority at least) of the one man who may have the President of the United State’s ear more than any other single person?  Purely a coincidence… nothing to see here folks… move along.  You can forget the Trilateral Commission ... »

Question now is, why are they running Project Snowden ?

Is the US regime trying to get us to be more trusting of some of these corrupt mainstream media stooges again ?

Are they running a test to see how much REAL outrage there is, versus submission ?
Are they just trying to get people more used to fascism, and the seeming fact there is little that can be done about it ?

Are they just trying to 'deepen their list' of which Americans should be added to the 1 million or so who already have spaces built and waiting for them in the FEMA concentration camps ?

Another fake coup, to fool US people with 'faith in the system', like with the military CIA 'Watergate' coup to take down Nixon, that was run by the CIA with the military joint chiefs - reporter Bob Woodward was a Naval Intelligence agent working for the top Admiral running the US military who took Nixon down (book 'Silent Coup' investigators Colodny and Gettlin) ?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:10 | 3645187 i-dog
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Well done, highlighting those connections, Bank Guy! That explains a lot.

However, I think Snowden is less a 'test' or a 'list building' exercise than just another step in this latest phase of the controlled demolition ... chopping out the remaining foundations of public confidence in the current American system of government, in preparation for the final collapse (which the vast majority of the public will applaud when TPTB present their 'solution' to 'the problem', whatever it may be).

Webster Tarpley thinks it will be martial law under Petraeus ... I'm not so sure about that (it seems way out of left field to me, but I've found no other hints on the controlled opposition websites), but I have no clue as to which rabbit they'll pull out of the hat to pacify the sheep while imposing total control. And take over total control, they will. There will certainly be no 'Mad Max' scenario.

This phase began on April 14th with the Defense Department issuing instructions on military support of civillian law enforcement ... followed the next day by the Boston Bombing 'display of incompetence and overreach' and then, just 2 days after that, Jeffrey Sachs openly called both major parties totally corrupt (ie. neither impeachment nor elections would fix the problems).

There have also been a number of other lesser indications since then, including all the -gates, that we are very close indeed to the 'end game'.

IMO, the only solution to the rampant corruption, overspending and overreach by DC is for the states to retake their sovereignty - in accordance with their DUTY under the Constitution - by seceding ... right f'ing NOW!!! That is also the only way to avoid being dragged into a major war by Israel.


[edit] And a big shout out to Dave Harrison. I keep forgetting to check his blog...which is a gross oversight as he often cuts through the layers of crap to get to the nuggets!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:21 | 3645285 tip e. canoe
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indeed dawg, dave always serves some delicious delicacies that cut through the crap.

although i really would like to like dear Mr. Ed, still can't wrap me mind around the obvious Catch-22 reference.    

either the "code" has gone meta or the cosmic irony has gotten thick as a pea soup.

perhaps the hedge has been pre-cogged to craft the perfect anti-hero.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:45 | 3645332 i-dog
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The Catch-22 reference is indeed WAY too convenient!

Right off the cuff, I'd be prepared to wager that the kid was an adopted prodigy (it's a common Khazarian MO) and later given the name as part of a crafted bio (they're good at that, too...reference Obomber).

The 'under-performing student' part likely arises from him being dyslexic. He appeared *very* competent to me in his interview and also appeared to be working from a learned script. Dyslexics are often high achievers (I have a dyslexic grandson who's way smarter than the average bear, yet he can barely read or do basic math at age 11. Richard Branson, Ted Turner, Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein are other examples of dyslexics). ;-)

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:32 | 3645207 Go Tribe
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The Snowden problem could be a sign of internecine warfare among these assclowns. I'd be interested in knowing about the various factions within this group, there must be some as it's human nature.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 08:56 | 3645298 Urban Redneck
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Six degrees of Kevin Bacon is NOT Intelligence Analysis.

You're getting lost in the weeds, which is certainly part of the game.  Separating and establishing the relative value of data points is critical when one seeks good intelligence in order to make a better decision.  Whereas when one merely seeks justification of pre-conceived notions through "intelligence" (such as the existence of WMD in Iraq) volume is more critical than quality.

If you're living and working Brussels-- any .gov troll with access to PRISM could paint a similar picture tying you to David de Rothschild, which is exactly why the system is so valuable to the establishment -- seeking to perpetuate the status quo. 

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 10:05 | 3645830 tip e. canoe
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any .gov troll with access to PRISM could paint a similar picture tying you to David de Rothschild  excellent point, redneck.   always good to remember that.   correlation does not imply causation.   it's an easy trap to fall into, but it is indeed a trap.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:47 | 3646813 Urban Redneck
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every troll from every goverment has a boss who has an explicit interest in how this perception plays out to the masses-either their own masses or those of allied or adversarial powers- so the volume of "hay" in the pile will increase exponentially.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:57 | 3645355 Let them all fail
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They don't own part of the Carlyle Group, they are/were an investor in their funds...big difference

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:14 | 3644649 samsara
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THIS is the story angle that needs to be amplified.

It's NOT the government that wants to "Know All" It's the guys that had the Grandfathers that tried the 1st Coup back in 1933. Precott ring a bell?
Google "1933 coup bankers prescott smedley"

They did alot more planning and took it long range this time. Getting the background all taken care of first. That's why it was ironic that Jr. the shrub was at the helm this time.

It's the people ABOVE the Government.

Thanks Tyler for making the link for the people.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:19 | 3644671 Go Tribe
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This goes back to the banksters, to the rots child's. Prescott was a simple tool, just like his grandson.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:34 | 3644886 Herd Redirectio...
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It does, but Prescott was basically The Godfather, of American operations. So he deserves an Honorable Mention in that regard.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:35 | 3644718 Ident 7777 economy
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" It's the guys that had the Grandfathers that tried the 1st Coup back in 1933. Precott ring a bell? Google "1933 coup bankers prescott smedley" ... "


Sounds and looks strangely like conspiracy-theory stuff ... no?


Did Edward Snowden release ANYTHING about this group?


Please don't answer "no".


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:43 | 3644740 dick cheneys ghost
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March 9 1933.........the day the banks took over......

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:59 | 3644755 G-R-U-N-T
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First, Diane Feinstein's take on it all...

“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's Treason."

As she attempts to disarm Kalifornia! This woman is absolutely insane!

"Petition to try Sen. Feinstein for treason reaches mark for White House response"


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:51 | 3644917 DaveyJones
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let's see he "violated the law" and committed "treason" by revealing government people who are systematically "violating the law" and, in constitutional terms,  committing "treason"

fuck you Diane 

you're not crazy

you're a criminal

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 01:41 | 3645063 Meat Hammer
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I take great comfort in the fact that the vast majority of her life is over.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:11 | 3645099 lakecity55
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Don't be so sure.

She may be eating a formula of aborted babies to prolong her evil and treasonous life.

I'm sure putting off hellfire is good motivation.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 19:28 | 3648343 sgt_doom
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Please allow me to humbly add one more factoid about Booz Allen and 9/11:  on 9/10/01, the comptroller of the Pentagon announed that their auditing team (DIA's Financial Management staff) had uncovered a missing or unaccounted for sum of $2.3 trillion in DoD funds.

On 9/11, an airliner crashed dead center into the Pentagon's west wall killing the majority of that auditing team and severely injuring the reaminding members.

And who was the private contractor responsible for the coordination of DoD funds:  Booz Allen, of course!

Grey Poupon, anyone?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:43 | 3644564 putaipan
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thnx tylers.  ....and when profitibility to the shareholders becomes more important than national security?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:41 | 3645107 The Heart
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Profitability is just one of the games these criminal murderous slimebags play. Soon, it will become boring and a new event will dawn. They might play the population reduction games next if left to run ruin across the globe.

Fortunately for the people of the world, the light will keep coming until it blinds and blows away this evil described so well above. When the question is asked, who profits in war, the answers are above.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 05:06 | 3645152 Dr. Sandi
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This will sound like a typical smartass remark from me, but let's consider another great reason to get in bed with the people who own all the data gathering techonologies and the legal right to use them with impunity.


Government is a good money maker, sure. But nobody succeeds with out marketing. And with the ability to recreate all networks of human interaction anywhere in the tech-enslaved portions of the world, well, there's never ever been such a great marketing machine. And likely never will be again.

They can figure out where you shop, where you work, how you get between the various places you go on a regular basis. They know what you've bought, what you paid, who you got it from, how much you owe for it and how much credit you have left. They know the cash balance in your checking account. They know what you've been eyeballing at the online stores.

They know who's in your household and all of their stats too.

Since they now know everything quantifiable about pretty much all of us, they can easily project the most efficient way to sell us any damned thing they want to sell us, whether it's merchandise or ideas, and we'll have a hard time saying no. That's because they can figure out what made us say YES last time.

If I was half as evil in real life as my imagination is, I'd already be in there doing the same damned thing. Surely a few of us already are among those "special" people mentioned in the article who already have all of the candy loaded on their computer at work. Or better yet, their work laptop which they have to take home every night for 'security' reasons.

Yes, they already know your birthdate, mother's maiden name, favorite color, high school mascot and pet's name. And they will most certainly be bundling that data together with all your other stuff to project where you'll buy, how you'll vote and where you keep your secret stash of PMs that haven't already flipped out of the canoe.

Hell, they already have your PIN, so they can order it and have it delivered before you even know you want it.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:56 | 3645235 tip e. canoe
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don't care much at all for spielberg, but he nailed this marketing machine in Minority Report, probably cuz in his true freemason filmmaker style, he was using it to condition the masses. 

PKD is looking more prescient every day that passes.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:23 | 3645291 francis_sawyer
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Oh... & here I thought it was only because he ran out of different ways to stuff the Holocaust into his narratives...


So it was either "Minority Report", or, "Motherfucking Space Nazis from the Dark side of the moon, who get defeated by gay cowboys in a chariot race to the death"...

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 07:42 | 3645325 tip e. canoe
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cue the squirrels


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 08:12 | 3645384 francis_sawyer
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The squirrels escaped to the desert & are presently building themselves a giant golden squirrel to worship... They've been thru several attempts already but the damn thing keeps coming out looking like a squid...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:52 | 3644590 fourchan
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sounds like job security for fatass michael moore.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 19:24 | 3648332 sgt_doom
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Holy crap!  TD just gave me a woody!!!!

And as a follow up, eveyone should read Lance DeHaven-Smith's Conspiracy Theory in America, just published by University of Texas Press, and a most informative read.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:26 | 3644506 williambanzai7
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:46 | 3644576 Bay of Pigs
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BOOM! Man down...

Tyler Durden the ZH sniper does it again. Awesome.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:29 | 3644696 mofreedom
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was his name, oh, i better get off my rear and do something, anything.  what is that thing?  dear God anything, get yourself on the news, don't let this shit die, for if it does, we ALL DIE AND OUR KIDS DIE.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:26 | 3644509 ToNYC
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Feinstein's panties are surely in a bunch. I hope she gets to the bottom of it, and brings back a treat.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:01 | 3644607 Big Slick
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'Feinstein's panties in a bunch', 'treat at the bottom of it'...

With God as my witness, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:20 | 3644672 dryam
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“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”



I am so confused.  I thought he was defending the Constitution.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:24 | 3644860 Widowmaker
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Ask that cunt about her "oath."

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:59 | 3644611 espirit
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Feinswine wears briefs and pisses standing up at her feed trough.  Even the Shanghai River spit her back.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:26 | 3644510 lolmao500
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From Prismgate to State department prostitution and drug trafficking gate...

Leak alleges State Department coverups ranging from prostitution to drug trafficking

Documents obtained from an internal watchdog for the US State Department have revealed the potential coverup of alleged illegal behavior ranging from sexual assaults to an underground drug ring.

According to CBS News, which first reported on the information obtained from a memo produced by the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS), that agency has followed leads on a number of cases that implicate the State Department in potentially damaging and illegal situations.

Aurelia Fedenisn, a former internal investigator, told CBS News that DDS agents were often told to go easy with investigations of high-ranking members of the State Department – a working environment that only allowed criminal behavior to continue, she says.

The DSS memo contains information on at least eight examples of improprieties, like claims that a State Department official in Beirut, Lebanon had “engaged in sexual assaults” of foreign nationals employed as embassy guards. The memo further included information that members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s security detail had “engaged prostitutes while on official trips in foreign countries,” characterizing the issue as “endemic.”

Fedenisn was part of the team that drafted a whistleblower report detailing another coverup, this one involving a US ambassador suspected of soliciting prostitutes at a public park. According to that report the high-ranking official was allowed to return to his post despite having “ditched” his protective security detail in order to engage with the sex workers.

The undersecretary of state for management, Patrick Kennedy, reportedly interviewed that ambassador, who shortly thereafter returned to his post without being disciplined.

The report indicates that State Department agents claim they were told to stop investigating certain cases, for example that of the ambassador who had solicited sex workers. CBS News also reports that two hours after the whistleblower report surfaced, investigators from the State Department’s Inspector General showed up at Fedenisn’s residence.

According to a draft of a report prepared for the Inspector General's office, the "hindering" of investigations into misconduct "calls into question the integrity of the investigative process” and “can result in counterintelligence vulnerabilities.” That line was later removed from the final version of the report, Fedenisn says, after a high-ranking security official told her that "this is going to kill us."

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:03 | 3644627 samsara
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Great Post again LOLMAO500.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:38 | 3644895 Herd Redirectio...
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Two-tiered law system, what else is new.  Are we making a wishlist?  Can I petition for the return of Rule of law and justice please?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:08 | 3644643 Go Tribe
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My God, we need a conflagration NOW.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:11 | 3644654 lolmao500
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Yeah those scandals keep pilling on yet the fuckers are still in office...

And yep, Obama needs a distraction, STAT... and he's working on one...

The state department spokeswoman just said this morning that the US should help the rebels ``keep the territory they won``... that sounds like total war on Assad forces to me...

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 02:06 | 3645076 TheMerryPrankster
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obama;s due fir a golf vacation. governing is so hard,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:26 | 3645104 Lore
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I don't know about you, but I feel bullish as hell.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:50 | 3645111 thestarl
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To quote Mr Gerald Celente Justice spelt Just Us seems to apply to these arseholes?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:29 | 3644515 stinkhammer
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this aggression will not stand, man

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:29 | 3644874 prains
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:31 | 3644528 Eeyores Enigma
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Now we are getting down to the real nitty gritty.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:33 | 3644529 augie
Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:36 | 3644537 samsara
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Good post

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:33 | 3644531 Charles Nelson ...
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What a malignant cunt that Feinstein is. Even the depths of hell are to pleasant for her despicable cunt face.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:45 | 3644573 Mr. Hudson
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Of all the Jews in our Senate, she scares me the most. She is an obsessed lunatic bent on destroying this country and killing all the goyim before she retires or dies.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 02:48 | 3645089 Kirk2NCC1701
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They shoulda left it at 1 vote per family.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:37 | 3644538 AssFire
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So, Ed Snowden is not 1 in a million, but 1 in 1.4 million.

I raise my glass to him!


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:24 | 3645102 freedogger
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Unbelievable what he left behind.

He is not of this century.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:41 | 3644552 RmcAZ
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If only a few more of the 1.4 million could come forward with more information, the lid could really blow off of this thing.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:42 | 3644556 kito
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booz em up allen.......a great place to wine tastings, ice cream socials, hula parties!!!!......and every worker gets his/her own office!!!!


best part......... 99% of booz allen income is derived from the......FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!!!!


shit and i thought solyndra was a waste of money!!!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 02:55 | 3645094 Kirk2NCC1701
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What, they did not start with Obama, but were a GOP fave?

We truly have a 1-party system, and this IS the USSA.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:42 | 3644557 dick cheneys ghost
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nice expose called ''The Iron Triangle''......about the Carlyle Group

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:43 | 3644563 Mr. Hudson
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: "First, Diane Feinstein's take on it all...

“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason."

I wonder if this insane woman thinks Jonathan Pollard committed treason?



Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:50 | 3644587 lolmao500
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Feinstein, you treasonous cunt, what about you eat a bag of dicks and choke on it to death??

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:53 | 3644593 Stoploss
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It takes one to know one, look at her, leading the treasonous charge against the second amendment.

So much for "somewhat educated"

Now,  treasonous hypocritical psycho bitch, sticks like gaffer tape to glass..........

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:57 | 3644604 Chupacabra-322
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Here's the "Hare Psychopathy Checklist'. See how many you think Criminal Obama, Criminal Holder, Criminal Clinton, Criminal Congress, The Criminal CIA, Criminal FBI, Criminal DHS and Criminal Feinstein matches:

1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of

deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.

If I remember correctly, if you can identify seven signs, congratulations, you have found a psychopath!



Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:11 | 3644652 Kirk2NCC1701
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Christ, you're describing a lot of people now!  Maybe more than 1/2 the country.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:19 | 3644673 kridkrid
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No... more like 2-4% of the country. The problem is, many/most of those characteristics are self selecting in reaching the very top of many of our institutions and corporations. I think your "half" likely under-represents realitiy in Congress, for example. The world is literally run by psychopaths. Chew on that one.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:41 | 3644736 Ident 7777 economy
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" Christ, you're describing a lot of people now! "


I was about to say ...

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:39 | 3645214 Go Tribe
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Or at least every teenage boy.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:13 | 3644828 1C3-N1N3
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Hare Psychopathy Checklist

Just had "The Wisdom of Psychopaths" open right before reading your comment.

Synchronicity-on, tonight.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:15 | 3644662 Go Tribe
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Feinstein's too busy feasting on Helen Thomas to be paying attention to anything.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:44 | 3644566 Chippewa Partners
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Imagine the insider trading opportunities if you are the NSA!



Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3644617 Citxmech
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I'd bet money that the NSA was feeding Feinstein insider trading info in exchange for a continued green light.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:47 | 3644577 Chupacabra-322
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This Criminal organization was in a meeting the morning of 911 with The Bush Crime Family.  How convenient.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:12 | 3644656 Kirk2NCC1701
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And its Front Man was in class, doing remedial reading. /s

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:22 | 3644678 Chupacabra-322
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Forgot to mention, the Binladen family was also at that meeting.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:10 | 3644825 Kirk2NCC1701
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... and yet were allowed to fly out of the US, when no other planes were allowed to fly anywhere in the entire country.  As I recall.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:47 | 3644915 Herd Redirectio...
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But that, and Silverstein buying 'terrorism insurance' in July 2001 'proves nothing'. /sarcasm

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 02:00 | 3645074 TheMerryPrankster
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Cover story provides plausible deniability.

Bush in florida, means when plane hits whitehouse he's safe - to bad that plane got shotdown and fucked up the cherry on his disaster sundae spectacular.

saudis attack US,fly planes into skyscrapers = go to war with iraq. hows that fucking math work again?  hey we nned a gas pipeline and the ciA wants th opium trade can you throw in Afghanistan?


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:49 | 3644579 Duc888
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....would be nice to get Rummy, Bush sr as well as BIG DICK Cheney on the stand.  Throw Clintoon up there too for good measure.    They've superseded administrations since the 70's.  Ya don't swing into town for 4 years, fuck shit up and leave.  This mess was planned and coordinated for years, through many admins.....


Fuck, I love Armageddon


"The unveiling", that's the real meaning, look it up.


Let it burn to the ground.  I'll be the nutter on the hill watching the freak show go down, swillin' beer and chompin' the popcorn.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3644580 MFLTucson
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The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the ConstitutionHe violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”


And what about  Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder, ...Ms Feinstein?   Same rules apply for them?


By the way, how much money will your husband make with the exclusive listing of all US postal Service real estate the US goverment is selling?  Your a disgrace lady!


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 03:16 | 3645097 Kirk2NCC1701
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I take exception to your comment in your last sentence. That's no way to treat Ladies, by calling Finestain a 'lady'. ;-)

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:49 | 3644582 Dr. Engali
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“I don't look at this as being a whistleblower. I think it's an act of treason,” the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters. The California lawmaker went on to say that Snowden had violated his oath to defend the Constitution. “He violated the oath, he violated the law. It's treason.”

This treasonous bitch more than just about any other. She needs to be tried and summarily hung for her crimes against the American people.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:18 | 3644669 Izznogood
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Why even bother trying her, when you have obviously already passed a death sentence? You are primed and ready to sign up at the nearest Fascist Party Office.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:31 | 3644702 Dr. Engali
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I'll bite... how long have you been licking Feinstein's twat?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:59 | 3644787 swmnguy
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Obviously you mean a Fascist Party Office other than the one where Sen. Feinstein currently keeps her stuff?  Because it's slightly unclear in your comment.  And if you object to the "Fascist" label, I suggest you look at a couple definitions.  It enfuriiates me when people call the likes of our current political class "Socialist" or "Communist" or similar.  It betrays a weak understanding of political vocabulary. 

But "Fascist" has a meaning too.  It most certainly does not mean, "People who are angered by those who seek to merge Corporate and State power to the benefit of privileged elites and the detriment of individual freedoms, under the guise of patriotic nationalism and aggressive militarism."  Rather the opposite, in fact.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 21:58 | 3644605 20834A
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$4,000 for a background check for a security clearance? Mine cost the gov. $157,000, so that can't be for a TS-codeword clearance (which is typical in the NSA). Pikers.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:12 | 3644658 espirit
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On average it's around $40k through DSS.  I think they're lowballing the figure, perhaps to draw out others that know the truths is one real possibility.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:15 | 3644664 20834A
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:17 | 3644668 Legolas
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I wonder if they know how many ZHers have government clearance?  I wonder if Tyler even has any idea.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3646152 Aurora Ex Machina
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ZH has no SSL cert, so Onyx certainly knows.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:01 | 3644615 whoopsing
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The federal reserve is a ' contractor', nuff said

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:01 | 3644623 rejected
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Treason is defined in the constitution. Ms Feinstein and most of the legislature comes much closer to the definition than Mr. Snowden.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:02 | 3644625 booboo
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This dog is infested with butt worms.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:28 | 3644633 Kirk2NCC1701
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We've all heard of the slogan "intel inside".  Well, when it comes to a Bush in the WH, it might as well be "Carlyle inside".  Expect Jeb Bush to run for the Bush IV (Term VI) presidency in 2016.

And most of the sheep will bah it, as they swallow anything that's prepackaged to their appearance and taste preferences. /s

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:51 | 3644923 Widowmaker
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Expect Jeb to be installed.

When you vomit when it happens, thank Widowmaker.

Fascism in plain sight.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:06 | 3644636 post turtle saver
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"Clarence Boddicker: Gonna need some major firepower. You got access to military weaponry?

Dick Jones: We practically are the military."

- RoboCop

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:10 | 3644648 reader2010
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"Democracy is the menopause of Western society, the Grand Climacteric of the body social. Fascism is its middle-aged lust." - Jean Baudrillard.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:16 | 3644666 Kirk2NCC1701
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And 'MIC-agra' is its Viagra, to bring back the staying power of its Middle-Age/Fascist libido.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:17 | 3644667 kchrisc
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Contractors, smactors! You're making my head hurt.

It is not about contractors or anything else but their need to watch us, their victims of their thieveries, muggings and murders.

Or to put it another way, "if you have nothing to be leery about then you don't have to worry."


The Four Rs




Restoration of the Constitutional republic

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:21 | 3644676 Rbh110
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The Booz Allen government-consulting unit has more than 18,000 employees and annual sales of more than $2.7 billion. Its clients include branches of the U.S. military, the Department of Homeland Security and the World Bank.

That makes no sense - That is only $150,000 revenue per employee. The "more than $2.7b" must mean around $10b.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:23 | 3644684 Seasmoke
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Feinstein needs to join Lautenberg.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:25 | 3644688 samsara
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Notice how all these stories have the same thing in common?   It's the phrase;

"...after the 9/11 attacks."


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:26 | 3644691 tradewithdave
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Maturity. That's the answer.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:30 | 3644700 notadouche
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Didn't the Carlyl Group get bailout money as the result of their ownership of Chrysler?  The government teat must be good for them.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 01:50 | 3645071 TheMerryPrankster
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Cheney, when at the pentagon did a study on outsourcing service for the military. halliburton was hired to do the study and present a proposal.

Cheney liked the proposal and hired Halliburton to take over the logisitcs and grunt work so the military could stay busy killing and not washing dishes and such.

Cheney gave them a fat contract, retired from the pentagon and became ceo at haliburton, until he became vice president.

When usa goes to war with Iraq, halliburton gets the support contract. Cheney's net worth goes from a few million when he enters office to nearly 70 million when he leaves office.

Country boy makes good.btw Cheney never served in the Military, just milked it dry and helped young men die to make him rich.

A real American success story. Thats our Dick.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 06:51 | 3645228 Mentaliusanything
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And the first that should be tried for War Crimes. Second Old Rumsfield.

Bush can be left to the GOOD LORD. And he will relish the throw down


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:38 | 3644710 samsara
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Notice the names on the board?   Notice how ALL the names on ALL the boards are the SAME names?  

Maybe Tyler should do a Web Graph of organizations a person is on the board of.

Limit the names of only those that have been on at least 5 different important posts.  Like this guy


Daniel Akerson -CEO of General Motors, Board member at 7 companies, Managing director at Carlyle

7 Companies.

If you did the above exercise,  You would see that there are only a few thousand people that pretty much "Manage"  the entire machine for the Real Bosses.

Now do you those few thousands of people have the same world view?

Do you see why there doesn't have to be a "Written Master Plan"   It is just a few 10,000 people who hold the same world view, and share the same common vision of what they would like to see happen. 

"We need the media to ....  No problem,  I'll talk to bob and joe... next week at the xxxx meeting"

"We need xxxx to happen,  No problem We'll talk to pete and mark next week at the xxxx meeting..."



Tue, 06/11/2013 - 11:29 | 3646191 Aurora Ex Machina
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It's now fairly easy to do with software. Click "popular maps" and select "Haliburton 2 degrees" for instance.

Disclaimer: no idea how up to date that site is or how comprehensive - looks 2010 - 2012 so newish but it's crowdsourced. Revolving door revolves so it's bound to be out of date. You could grab LinkedIn / Forbes / Debretts DBs in real time nowadays, and people certainly do (whether or not it's purchasable is a different matter).


I think you're taking the wrong message from this - I don't think anyone is surprised that businesses network (and networks are how the real world is run), I think it's the general feeling that businesses should have to be in a competitive market. Knowing your CEO is about to become VP to the Institution declaring war (can't remember if you even bothered to declare war against Saddam, it was probably a police action or coalition of the willing or something) and then getting a contract which is virtually no bid, and is crappily serviced (tales of soldiers in the desert showering in unsafe water is one story to look for) makes the entire Game pointless.


Your level of belief in this is entirely relative to your levels of cynicism.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:26 | 3647324 trader1
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sweet link. thanks for sharing.

the data is accurate as of at least february 2013, because my company's former chairman is no longer listed as chairman of said company.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:34 | 3644715 tony bonn
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dianne feinstein is a nazi; snowden a heroic patriot....bush sr has deep ties to carlyle group making it a crown jewel in the bush crime syndicate with louis gerstener one of its chief syndicate members.....carlyle group has deep ties to blackrock, another bush crime syndicate jewel....bush drug money keeps big banks afloat such as bank of america - the most pompous arrogant cabal of assholes on the planet....

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:36 | 3644720 Bansters-in-my-...
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"Feinstein" thats long for "bitch" is it not..?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:39 | 3644815 Widowmaker
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Is the Constitution wrapped in a full metal jacket?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:56 | 3644932 WTFUD
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feinstein = fanny or cunt stain

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 22:51 | 3644757 swmnguy
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The really appalling part is that people are able to argue that all of this crap is legal.  Because of course they've written the laws to make it so.  It's not unConstitutional because it isn't really the government doing it, see.  It's all "private contractors."  They're just making private deals between private businesses, you know.  And it's probably all been agreed to, buried deep in some EULA or addendum to your phone contract or what-have-you.  Certainly it isn't the government carrying out universal unwarranted searches and seizures, oh, no.  But when the government wants the information, it's all right there.  Oh, looky here.  Just what we were hoping we might find.  Fancy that.  And since they already knew exactly what and where it was, they could get (probably even retroactively), the exactly right court order to get it all.

Now, you and I couldn't get away with this.  For us it would be called "stealing," or something similar, and they'd nail our balls to the handrail as a warning to others.

This reminds me a lot of a clever little pamphlet I once read called "The Cunning Of History."  It's been a while, but as I recall the author pointed out that the Holocaust was perfectly legal in Germany, because first they revoked all their victim's citizenship.  Without that, they couldn't go anywhere, had no rights, and had no protections under the law.  They re-arranged the laws, and not as much as you'd think, to make it a merely administrative matter to round people up, seize all their property, and put them in camps and then ovens.  Whether you believe all the particulars or not doesn't matter; millions of people were there, then they weren't, and the Nazis had all their stuff.  It required an utterly novel application of law to find them guilty at Nuremberg, although nobody was in any doubt as to what they had done.

Not encouraging.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 23:54 | 3644901 Widowmaker
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If it is unconstitutional it is illegal.

Don't swallow the liberal jism of marginalization and distraction.

Congress incorporated is the root (and definition) of tyrrany in this era.

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