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A Message From Your Friendly ECHELON/Total Awareness/Boundless Informant Surveillance System

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

There's never enough information to be absolutely safe.

Greetings Mr. J.Q. Public:

J.Q., you don't know me but I know you. I am your friendly ECHELON/Total Awareness/Boundless Informant Surveillance System--actually, an automated response feature of the system.

You may wonder why you are receiving this email, and you may attribute it to the email you sent an associate stating that the theater play you attended "bombed." Since enemies of America use code phrases rather than overt words like "bombed," that email was noted but not considered actionable. I'm not authorized to reveal what did attract my attention about your communications.

In my routine search of your public records, and all 11,379 emails, texts, message board posts and phone calls you've made in recent years, I found a disturbing trend I am obligated to report to you: your affection for pepperoni pizza with hot chilis and olives (most often from Frank's Pizza Parlor, 1.34 miles from your home) appears to be negatively impacting your health, as your medical records indicate high blood pressure and high cholesterol.

You see, the ECHELON/Total Awareness/Boundless Informant Surveillance System is all about protecting you--from terrorists bent on destroying America's freedoms and way of life, and also, if need be, from yourself.

I also noticed that the deductions listed on the last three years of your Federal tax returns don't quite align with your other financial records. You probably think everyone fudges on their tax returns, J.Q., but I strongly recommend you start following the letter of the law, as this sort of willful misinformation can lead to IRS audits. Actually, I can say with 100% certainty an audit has already been ordered.

Third-party sources report that you appear to have voted for a Green Party candidate in the last election. Now perhaps that was a simple slip of the ballot, but your file will look a lot less suspicious if you vote for one of the established parties rather than a fringe party.

Satellite imagery suggests that your backyard peach tree has leaf curl, and I strongly recommend spraying a copper solution on the tree as soon as possible. It also appears that you left a hammer on the roof when you were affecting a repair last fall. It's about 1.25 feet from the southwest corner of the roof.

Although humor is frowned upon here, I am allowed one jocular statement per message to maintain the friendly tone of this communication. So let me assure you that what happens in Vegas does not stay in Vegas, J.Q., heh-heh. Yes, I am referring to the family vacation in Las Vegas you conducted this spring while on sick-leave.

I am sorry to say that these inconsistencies, though modest in scope, have automatically triggered the addition of your name to the No-Fly List. Please remember that the next time you are questioned by Homeland Security officers at the airport, please answer their questions honestly and fully, for your own protection and for the protection of the nation. I am sorry if you miss your flight, but protecting liberty has a cost.

Since the ECHELON/Total Awareness/Boundless Informant Surveillance System also monitors the deep Internet, i.e. encrypted files and servers, I can also suggest deleting the photos of your ex-girlfriends from your PC, and also showing a bit more enthusiasm at work, as your performance reviews have declined and quite frankly, you might not make it through the next round of layoffs.

J.Q., you will find an email address to a secure server at the end of this message. This enables you to privately report any suspicious behavior or activity you might see in your workplace, neighborhood and public venues. What is suspicious behavior? Any attempt to evade surveillance is highly suspicious, for example, using cash to make major consumer purchases or deploying signal-disrupting covers on mobile devices.

Helping to protect America will improve the metrics of your file, J.Q., and the tax audit and No-Fly listing could be remediated by your volunteering to help us keep America safe.

I know you're going to help us protect America, because I already know you so well.

Thank you for your cooperation.

your friendly ECHELON/Total Awareness/Boundless Informant Surveillance System


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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:05 | 3642371 gmrpeabody
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How many fingers am I holding up?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642391 ghengis86
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on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.


even governments.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:20 | 3642436 davinci7_gis
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Agent Smith: It seems that you've been living two lives. One life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and you... help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived in computers, where you go by the hacker alias "Neo" and are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

Agent Smith: We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start. All that we're asking in return is your cooperation in bringing a known terrorist to justice. 
Neo: Yeah. Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger 
[He does
Neo: and you give me my phone call. 

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:21 | 3642443 jbvtme
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of course they're watching.  they've been on you since your first vaccination

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3642457 LawsofPhysics
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Even worse, you are one of them...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3642471 jbvtme
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please don't force me to bring your mother into this

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:32 | 3642492 LawsofPhysics
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If you pay taxes, you are in fact one of them, starve the beast.  

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:46 | 3642532 Herd Redirectio...
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Via work slowdown, for me!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:12 | 3642653 insanelysane
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Rent "Three Days of the Condor".

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:24 | 3642437 jbvtme
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snowden might be contolled opposition

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3642541 Herd Redirectio...
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Indeed, as might ZH, as might I be...

Don't trust any one 100%.  The beauty of disinformation is, they have to tell you at least 98% truth for it to even be plausible. 

Even people that want to share the truth (such as myself) can be misled, and thus, mislead others in turn (even without the intent to do so).  This happens often by dragging people out of their comfort zone, getting an expert on finance to adopt a 'far out' opinion on multidimensional beings, etc.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:22 | 3642659 Aurora Ex Machina
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Snowden could be a cypher to get back Millennial faith in the system, used by a Progressive Tech faction to further their goals over the Big Oil power block in the Great Game.

Snowden could be genuine, 100%, a real human being who lost faith in his Ideological Indoctrination from the system once he saw the way the real world works and its use of Power.

Snowden could be a chosen lamb, whose innocent blood washes away the sins of the world, in an esoteric multidimensional game of Chess we can only glimpse slivers of.


Snowden could be all three at the same time. Snowden could be many, many, many more things at the same time.

The point is: once you involve the shadow world, you're left with whatever interpretation your belief systems translate the data into. You will never know the Absolute Truth here. The real question you should be asking is: the wider the impact, the larger the amount of money, planning and skill it takes to pull off. Measure the impact, not the event itself or Actors involved. Measure the reaction of various belief systems and measure the depth penetration it has.


This is the real lesson of 9/11 unless you missed it; it happened, trying to discern causation isn't the Game.

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." 


A further hint: even the phrase "pure as the driven snow" could be generated from the shit-sourced tanning industry. Or it could be Shakespeare. That's where the humor lies, the tension between Yin and Yang and so on and so forth. The mistake is to think either is true, the other wrong and that it's not a product of both.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:05 | 3642874 gmrpeabody
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... uuuhh..., what?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:16 | 3642896 Aurora Ex Machina
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ZH Translation Engaged:

As a professional TraderTM (pre HFT) you might analyze companies, you might analyze the markets, you might analyze the macro and micro economic indicators of countries, you might analyze the weather, you might analyze its competitors, you might analyze chart patterns, you might analyze historical flows:


But do you give a fuck what the company actually does, apart to denote your particular specialty to other traders?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 15:31 | 3643284 Totentänzerlied
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You wrote Neuromancer fanfics, don't you?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 15:38 | 3643312 Aurora Ex Machina
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Neuromancer is a 1984 novel by William Gibson, a seminal work in the cyberpunk genre and the first winner of the science-fiction "triple crown" — the Nebula Award, the Philip K. Dick Award, and the Hugo Award


That was actually wittier than you thought, sadly I don't think it was intentional. If you actually knew anything, you made a double error:


Blue Ant Trilogy:


The jokes, they write themselves.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 17:39 | 3643722 medium giraffe
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"Measure the impact, not the event itself or Actors involved."

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:22 | 3642441 jbvtme
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3642464 BLOTTO
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BTW, off topic (again)

I like how the 'Cross of Lorraine' is printed on each and every Oreo cookie (Nabisco)...




K, carry on...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:33 | 3642495 ParkAveFlasher
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It's in the Nabisco logo as well, and the parent of Nabisco, Mondelez, has a name of entymologically French influence.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3642548 Herd Redirectio...
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AKA The Double Cross.

Hmmm... Wonder where the connotation for that phrase came from?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:56 | 3642844 Lost Word
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Part of the Black Nobility ?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 15:32 | 3643289 Totentänzerlied
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Entomology is the study of insects. Etymology is study of word origins.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 15:44 | 3643337 Bryan
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Here's another pet peeve:  mnemonic is any learning technique that aids information retention.  Pneumatic is
of, relating to, or using gas.  Pneumonic is... um... perhaps remembering your last fart smell?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:31 | 3642486 Meat Hammer
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Can of white spray paint, extension ladder, and the following messages written in 6,347-point font on my roof.

Fuck you NSA

Fuck you Obama

Fuck you Bernanke

Eric Snowden is God

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:46 | 3642536 kralizec
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Eric Snowden is likely a puppet doing the bidding of somebody up higher in the food chain...but is the aim to truly inform the public what is happening, distract from something worse or part of a larger disinformation campaign that will make Prism look like childs play once something bigger blacker and nastier comes into being?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:50 | 3642553 Herd Redirectio...
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Prism looks like child's play?  You lost me.  Please elaborate.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:02 | 3642607 Citxmech
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I just had a conversation about this with my wife - about the only things bigger than proof that we currently live in Orwell's Oceana would be what?  Proof that the govt was complicit in 9/11?  Aliens run the govt?  An asteroid is about to wipe out Earth?

Seriously - this has shown a bright light pretty deep down the rabbit hole. . .

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:34 | 3642750 knukles
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It's illumintaed the WHole Fucking Thing!
There are no Conspiracy Theories, Just Facts FFS

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:06 | 3642632 therearetoomany...
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Let me preface this by saying I support Snowden and that i pray he is for real and real change comes. Suppose you wanted to collapse the whole system, suppose you wanted to start over, or, impose a new way of doing things. The first thing you need to do is eliminate the 'old system'. How do you get rid of the greatest bastion of liberty the world has ever seen? "Prove' to the world that it is ALL corrupt, every last bit of it, every player, all sides, and further, tell everyone that you will now, for instance, install a new govt, a new way... So, we've had the most inept admin ever, and now the most corrupt, and then we learn that we might be selling or giving weapons to our enemies and that innocent americans are being killed, and security staff is fucking prostitutes, and the fed s corrupt, and you no longer have any money because it's been devalued and you can't eat....what do you do?

You ask for them to help, you ask for someone to help,,and the likes of this fucking dictator or more likely the soros and buffets of the world, willl oblige you...if this is something you might want to accomplish, this might be the last fucking straw...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:33 | 3642747 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, no shit they will try, but then they will fingered as complicit in the entire build up and collapse.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:47 | 3643088 WarriorClass
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Shhhick, shhhick.


I hear rifles being cleaned across the country.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:13 | 3642396 Beam Me Up Scotty
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And we all wear bugs and gps trackers on our hips every day.  Their called smart phones for a reason...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:06 | 3642633 duo
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that's why you can't remove the battery from an iPhone.  That GPS has to stay on all the time.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:15 | 3642668 insanelysane
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I was returning a defective cell phone.  I had a prepaid slip from the cell company and yet the teller at the Post Office was very annoyed when I wouldn't put in a return address.  Hmmmm.  Does anyone think they are collecting snail mail meta data?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:30 | 3643003 XitSam
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They won't let you mail packages over about 13 ounces in a mailbox anymore. This is to prevent "bad things" being sent in the mail. What do they do with them? Return to sender. A clever person would put the receiver as the return address.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:51 | 3643101 Bohm Squad
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The post office also will open "media mail" know, to make sure it's actually media related...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 16:08 | 3643421 TheGardener
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You nailed it, insanelysane, Post Office is not about delivering things and messages , it has always been about
control of what gets delivered.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:58 | 3642850 Lost Word
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Smart phone GPS for Smart Bomb GPS guidance.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:15 | 3642411 tarsubil
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We like to have fun here. No, seriously, looks like we'll have to black bag him and torture him for fun until he dies. Then leak the execution as a "scandal" and message to anybody that doesn't want to play ball. Haha, we like to have fun here.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3642422 jbvtme
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:20 | 3642433 Buckaroo Banzai
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The problem is, this story is public, in a big way. The old "extra-judicial killing" angle isn't going to fly so well. "Suicide" will be looked at with a whole new level of skepticism.

No, they will either have to go into full-on denial mode, or pursue him through legal channels.

We can't rule out the idea that this is a "modified limited hang-out", designed to gauge the outrage. The idea being, if the story just goes away with no consequences to them, they can ratchet up the National Security State a few notches higher.

It is amazing to me that I am still hearing people say, "Meh, I have nothing to hide, and they are trying to catch terrorists, so whatever." The level of ignorance and apathy is so shocking that they might just get away with this.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3642475 tarsubil
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No. They have to murder him. They wish to rule through fear. You don't rule through fear by forgiving. This story will get old and he'll disappear when the people stop paying attention.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:30 | 3642487 cougar_w
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They absolutely will get away with this.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:51 | 3642558 Herd Redirectio...
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No chance.  Death = martyrdom = problem 10x worse than currently.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:17 | 3642682 Citxmech
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I'm not so sure.  Surveillance works two ways:  1, The mark isn't aware of the surveillance and is caught; and 2, the mark self-censors because s/he knows s/he is being watched.

Option 1 isn't viable anymore.  Option 2 has the negative effect of enshrining distrust in the power structure and making dissent very hard to track as it goes underground.

Folks keep wondering why there aren't mass, centralized "protests."  I wonder if in today's world - we have an ongoing protest that is very different - a decentralized one that may end up being even more effective as the situation evolves.  Time will tell.

PS  Anyone else getting ads for white Oxford shoes these days?  JFC. . .

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:54 | 3642832 FeralSerf
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Affirmative on the shoes.  It's part of a study/poll to find out who reads ZH and has a white Oxford shoes mindset and/or a desire to be of that group.  They know more about how you think than you do (or They would like to believe they do).

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:00 | 3642857 Renfield
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Agreed. People who keep calling for armed revolution and crowds of protesters are, IMO, missing the lessons of 2008. Remember the bankster bailout, that had seas of protesters and something like 100-to-1 opposition? How many of the criminals were returned to office a few months later?

This is 21st-century fascism, and it will be met with 21st-century methods. 'Protest' worked in the 1960s but that isn't the way things are done today, and I think that plays right into 'their' hands. Today's protesters are probably learning more from Mahatma Gandhi than from Malcolm X.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:21 | 3642946 Herd Redirectio...
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I'm not even sure it worked in the 60s, TBH.

I mean, how much did their anti war movement really accomplish?

"most disapproved of the counterculture that had arisen alongside the antiwar movement"

Golly, I wonder if that was a hijacking, just like what happened to the Tea Party?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 15:46 | 3643346 Totentänzerlied
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It accomplished jack shit, as anyone who counts the number of military operations, bases, assets, and operating budget can see. In fact, it probably just made the problem worse, by providing a very convenient excuse to surveil opposition movements, though this it would be highly disingenuous to say this is the fault of said movements, provided they were at all genuine in their beliefs, and not just paid/controlled/co-opted opposition.

On this point, to be fair, it must be admitted that their approach ensured that they posed no threat to the status quo, and there existence was therefore neutral at best, or counterproductive at worst. In plain English, they fundamentally misunderstood their enemies and opponents in ways that, e.g., Barrack Obama's mentors did not. (What the latter saw with crystal clarity was that the only winning strategy was to gain control of state power, or else someone else would. They succeeded, beyond their wildest dreams, and we are living the results.)

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:54 | 3642567 therearetoomany...
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I've got nothing to hide...or, you have nothing to worry about as long as you're not doing anything wrong...this is sad and this a result of the brainwashing these kids have had over the past, say 25 or so years at the hands of LEFTISTS who believe this shit.

But, that's water under the bridge...anyway, I've been hearing this now about since, mid-90s.   It's a sick and sad sentiment and the mantra of a police state.

Here wwe are.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:07 | 3642637 duo
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5 Florida "policemen" are heading to Hong Kong as we type.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:32 | 3642740 1000924014093
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I think the government's  best option at this point is just to ignore him, and wait for everyone to move on to something else.  Of course, if he comes back to the US, he's toast.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:01 | 3642859 FeralSerf
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They haven't given up on Julian Assange yet (and they're not likely to).  The PTB must keep the penalty mode in place or the myriad numbers of flock herders will not remain "loyal" to their cause.  Fear is the primary method, after brain-washing, that "loyalty" is maintained.  Greed is also used of course.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:11 | 3642647 SILVERGEDDON

Skynet is up and fully operational. But - the Goobernator, Ahhnold, will save us all, just like he fixed up Californicatia !

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:09 | 3642380 ghengis86
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let me take a shot at this  in the middle?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642390 HelluvaEngineer
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I'm holding two.  One on each hand.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:22 | 3642451 Big Corked Boots
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But if I say I am not holding two, but three, how many then, Winston?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:31 | 3642488 francis_sawyer
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Pull on this finger here...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642397 Hippocratic Oaf
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That's what we're all on, no?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:20 | 3642435 B2u
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642460 Poetic injustice
Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642469 Stackers
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Are they your fingers or someone elses fingers ?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3642472 Nehweh Gahnin
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Same as me...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:17 | 3642681 SILVERGEDDON

Only the fly falling into the printer knows for sure whether your name is Buttle, or, Tuttle. 


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:06 | 3642372 Doubleguns
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In my routine search of your public records, and all 11,379 emails, texts, message board posts and phone calls you've made in recent years, I found a disturbing trend I am obligated to report to you: your affection for pepperoni pizza with hot chilis and olives (most often from Frank's Pizza Parlor, 1.34 miles from your home) appears to be negatively impacting your health, as your medical records indicate high blood pressure and high cholesterol.


And your wife is fucking the neighbor.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:09 | 3642376 Midasking
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Doubleguns that made me laugh and almost spill my coffee..

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642470 Sofa King Confused
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Yeah but which neighbor?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:32 | 3642490 Doubleguns
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I am sure a google map can be enclosed to avoid the killing of the wrong neighbor or maybe the wrong map to eliminate the "right" neighbor as the NSA sees fit.  

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:08 | 3642887 FeralSerf
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The death of the wrong neighbor is just (justifiable) collateral damage.   One must never forget that the collateral damage of an action, more often than not, exceeds the actual effect to the "right" target.

All this time I thought it was the neighbor that was fucking my wife.  That just shows how effective the Disinfo Program has become.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:24 | 3642961 Herd Redirectio...
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I bet you drone strikes have CAUSED more muslims to consider terrorism than old Tim Osman ever did.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:07 | 3642373 Temporalist
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I always feel like...Somebody's Watching Me

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:12 | 3642401 HelluvaEngineer
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Ack!  Never justified.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:14 | 3642409 Temporalist
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Haha +1 but it was just apropos to the zeitgeist.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642463 Winston Churchill
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Just because you are paranoid ,doesn't make you wrong.

The fuckers ARE out to get you.

Just glad I've been using tradecraft for years.

Aquire a second set of everything on the black , assume the Govt. will be coming

for anything bought  using the matrix.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:22 | 3642377 CaptainSpaulding
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I just searched natural the web for remedies for Gallstones. I cant afford surgery. Apple Cider vinegar looks like an option. Any thoughts?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:38 | 3642506 jimmytorpedo
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Gallstones,...apparently you drink only fresh squeezed grapefruit juice for 3 days. Lots of it and I mean lots, loosens up something in there, not sure if its the potassium or what.

Then,...drink a pint of olive oil. I reccomend a nice variety that actually tastres good and is not rancid.

You will crap and crap and crap.

If you feel like crapping in a sieve, you will see a lot of gallstones.

Never tried it but know people who swear by it.

Let us know if it works.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 16:04 | 3643402 Totentänzerlied
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If any of those stones make it into the bile duct, as soon as that oil hits his stomach he'll wish he was never born.

Had mine out a year ago.

The real issue is why are the stones forming. A defective gallbladder, or hypeercalcemia or something else.

You do not want those stones passing into the bile duct, obstructing the pancreatic duct. Odds are, You'll get pancreatitis. If you get pancreatitis, aside from the indescribable pain of the stone passing through the duct, you cannot eat solid food, especially not fats, as this will only prolong and exacerbate the pancreatitis.

Spent a week in the hospital with this.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:09 | 3642378 Dr. No
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The story is entertaining.  However, I doubt they are that smart.  I am sure many of us on this board can give several examples of blunders performed by the government on paperwork, taxes, applications, etc. I dont like them having all the information, but I sleep well knowing they most likely will screw something up preventing them from connecting anything.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:13 | 3642405 Barnaby
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Same reason they put an eye on a dollar: having you think they're watching is just as important as actually watching.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:16 | 3642671 Insignificunt
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Having you THINK they're watching is way, way more important than the watching itself. You don't build a  state surveillance apparatus to catch dissidents/turrurists/spies. You build it (and make fucking sure the peasants know of its existence) so that individuals modify their behaviour accordingly.

If anyone on ZH was even mildly surprised by the info that "emerged" over the weekend, then they really need to do some fucking homework. The details of NSA/GCHQ backdoors have been in the public domain for a long, long time.

18 Months ago the questions on here would have been: "Why now? What's the fucking angle here? Who the fuck is pushing this story and what is their agenda". Now all I see is half hearted outrage and the inane "Oblombo is reading my emailz hurr durr hurr" mooing of the Drudge crowd and assorted small-town loudmouths who seem to have infested this place. (Not aimed at you Barnaby).

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:29 | 3642993 Herd Redirectio...
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Say you share some crucial information with the world.  And you are being monitored or surveilled, or the post is read, etc.  Its going to be dealt with first and foremost by some entry level data analyst, right? 

So if they don't prioritize effectively, the whole chain suffers. 

This is an information war.  They are more interested in persuading/convincing/brainwashing/lying through their teeth and you believe them, than anything else.  They monitor the sheeps reactions, in order to better manipulate the sheep in the future.  That is the idea, IMO.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:30 | 3642999 MachoMan
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Have a thesis?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 17:04 | 3643438 Insignificunt
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Whilst this clumsy attempt at psychological warfare will have different (desired) effects on different groups within society, the take home message for everyone is the same: "The eye of Sauron is watching everything you do!!!". I reckon this piece of shit system doesn't even work, and is being publicly wrung out for the only value it now has - to make the nascent police state look bigger and more frightening than it really is. 

Wasn't me who downvoted you btw Macho, I like your posts.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:13 | 3642407 HedgeHammer
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It is that very tract record that bothers me as they most likely, in my case, connect several dots of several different unrelated incidents.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:19 | 3642424 tarsubil
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The point of the data collection is not to figure anything out. It is to destroy enemies when they get in their way. You are right that the government is never going to figure anything out and prevent complete morons from pulling a Boston Marathon. The funny thing is, that is not what it is for. The firemen's job is actually not to put out fires but to burn houses down.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3642458 NotApplicable
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Besides, the more data, the more connectivity emerges. People "misunderestimate" the power of automated data mining at their own peril.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3642478 SWCroaker
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Existence and acceptance is all that is required.   Evidence can be provided, whether it exists or not.  But commonplace knowledge of such systems goes hand in hand with a belief that they wouldn't lie; all of which makes it the perfect coercion/blackmail tool.

*Anyone* who rises to a position of power or prominence should expect a visit/communication with veiled threats; it will "assist" their understanding of proper action on matters of security.  The masses will always assume that the omnipotent system is right...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:20 | 3642434 smithcreek
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Yeah, or even more likely, screw up and connect things that are NOT connected and then lay the burden on you to prove you are innocent.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:18 | 3642657 Element
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Yup! One day about two years ago I had some police guy call me from some place I did not recognize, thousands of kms away and asked me very bluntly what the hell I thought I was doing last Saturday night. I'm like wtf, and said I was probably at home in bed.  So he totally ignores this and immediately asks me why I was driving recklessly through some town which I had never heard of. I told him I was in a different part of the country. So he ignores that and instantly asks me why I'd left the scene of an accident? So I said, look mate, I'm in a completely different part of the country, your talking to the wrong person. So he asks me to confirm my name, which I did. So he now simply assumes that two people with the exact same name could not possibly exist in a country of 23 million people, and now he acts like he's 100% convinced I must have been the person driving a vehicle, which I don't own, in a town I've not been to on the other side of the country.

No, I'm not making this up.

So after another attempt to alert this tool to the fact that he was talking to the wrong person I finally lost patience and gave him both-barrels and told the annoying dumbshit to put his senior Sargent on. It took about another ten minutes to get these cretins to realize that a person living on the other side of the country was unlikely to be driving through their town last Saturday night in a car which I didn't own, and it was not registered to a person at my address, nor did it have plates from the state I was living in.

But in their pitiful pea-brains they were already so easily satisfied that I was the person they were seeking, simply because my name was spelt the same, and the onus was on me to establish that I wasn't their suspect. The onus apparently wasn't on them to establish a thread of logic that would lead them to think I was the person they were after. So they just rang me up out of the blue and made accusations regarding an event that I was thousands of kilometers away from. They didn't even want to know or acknowledge, nor check what I said to them.

That was an Orwellian insight into the way "police inquiries" actually work, I could not believe what bumbling incompetent idiots these police were, it was like being punked by ignorant morons, only they were actual trained state police.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:36 | 3642757 Intoxicologist
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Funny.  About as long ago, I was ticketed in a sting operation to generate revenue, thinly disguised as a clamp-down on serving underage drinkers.  Anyway, Officer Nitwit wrote my address down wrong: right street, wrong city.  I wondered why I never got it in the mail, and about a month later he shows up at my house. 

He wouldn't get out of his $45,000 squad pickup, because of the dogs, until I came outside.   Then he came storming at me waving said ticket and saying, "I've tried to mail this to you three times!"  I asked him why, if it was returned once, why he thought the next two times might be successful.  I looked at the ticket and saw his mistake and bluntly pointed it out to him. 

What a maroon.  Don't bother to double-check my address anywhere else - particularly since you work for the county and have access to all kinds of records.  Just keep putting a stamp on the same tired envelope and will it to arrive at my house.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:22 | 3642953 FeralSerf
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Policemen are actually selected to not have too high of a score on an IQ test.  It's necessary to do that if their bosses are to remain in control of them.  It's not good that the beat cop start thinking about why he's fucking the sheep.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:24 | 3642459 Georgiabelle
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I don't find it at all reassuring to know that the government is full of inept bunglers. I am horrified that they have access to all this computer generated private data. Even if they are themselves incapable of connecting the dots, advances in artificial intelligence will likely soon give them the ability to to everything listed in the above letter. I am re-reading 1984 by George Orwell and am stunned by how prescient he was.  

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:20 | 3642694 insanelysane
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Because the inept can sell the data to the "ept" is why we should worry.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642467 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Kinda like the SWAT team kicking in the wrong door. Who's fault is it when the lead starts flyin ?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:09 | 3642379 maxw3st
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Just putting myself on the no-fly-list by voting above, oh well.


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:10 | 3642385 HedgeHammer
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Downright chilling! The kinda shit that just pisses you off to no end.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642386 Barnaby
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I am Jack's online alter-ego helping craft the bogus narrative of his SSN.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642388 q99x2
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Dude I shop at Trader Joe's. They don't use coupons.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642462 Ms. Erable
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They also treat you like a criminal if you pay with cash. Seriously, the checkers at the local TJ's use their little yellow pen and visually inspect every $20, $50, or $100 bill TWICE, both sides, to make the transaction take far longer than paying with a card. Almost as if they don't know the criminals own the cards and card systems.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3642540 Disenchanted
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re: "the checkers at the local TJ's use their little yellow pen and visually inspect every $20, $50, or $100 bill TWICE, both sides"

Every place does that now, which tells me there's a serious counterfeiting problem.

Question is, is it more of a domestic or foreign problem? it ironic, counterfeiting clownbux that is?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 16:08 | 3643423 Totentänzerlied
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Or that they have been instructed that there is a serious counterfeiting problem, when the real agenda is to eliminate harder (though not impossible) to trace cash transactions.

A paper trail for every transaction.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642395 doomandbloom
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3642398 A. Magnus
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Kindly go fuck yourself. You really want to save this country? Then a suitable length of paracord and a high enough bridge should help you with your desires.

We are TIRED of your parasitic banker cocksucking BULLSHIT and can't wait until your piece of shit system chokes on its own inbred vomit,

Now FUCK OFF AND DIE like a good little bootlicker...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:12 | 3642399 conspicio
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I am Epsilon, I am Acxiom. I am your grocery loyalty card. I am your cable TV subscription. I am your airline ticket. I am your tax return. I am your medical records.


I am not your friend but you cannot exist without me. You can call me Hal.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:50 | 3642554 therearetoomany...
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I am Jack's aching stomach

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:15 | 3642412 pazmaker
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sick.... sad..... overwhelming ......distraught...... let me out

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:15 | 3642414 Temporalist
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I thought people paid extra for the anal cavity search.  You mean I could have been getting them free this whole time?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:16 | 3642415 Z_End
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And in other news, it has been reported that the NSA system Boundless Informant, ties directly to the FBI/Justice Dept system, codenamed, Groundless Indictment.

Please make sure that boot on your neck is nice and snug. Thank you for participating Total Information Awareness!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:16 | 3642416 stant
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"just because your paranoind dosent mean they are not out to get you" works both ways now. americans will be held accountable for this gov

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:29 | 3642994 FeralSerf
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It always did work both ways.  All the Germans in Dresden and all the Japanese in Hiroshima were held accountable for their governments.

You and I will be held accountable for Bush and Obama.  That's the way the world works.   I didn't vote for either of those SOBs.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:16 | 3642418 Winston Smith 2009
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Glenn Greenwald interviews Edward Snowden, a very smart guy:!

fantastic interview.  A few Snowden quotes from it:

Even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded.'s getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.

The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. People will see in the media all of these disclosures, they'll know the lengths that government is going to to grant themselves powers, unilaterally, to create greater control over American society and global society. But they won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things, to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interests. And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse. Until eventually there will be a time where policies will change because the only thing that restricts the activities of the surveillance state are policy. They'll say that... because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3642474 Z_End
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As Ayn Rand wrote in "Atlas Shrugged"...

“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against—then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there it that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of lawbreakers—and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:42 | 3642516 ParkAveFlasher
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As much as I want to call Ayn Rand a "prophet", Atlas Shrugged was first history, then prophecy.  That stuff actually happened, Rand simply dramatized and fictionalized it.  But rest assured, she had plenty of good models to render and portray.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3642544 therearetoomany...
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It amazes me to this day how she is still bad mouthed and mischaracterized.

She only was trying to let us know what was going to happen if we didn't act as Americans, having liberty, making sure liberty is available and taking care of ourselves.  If we take care of ourselves, then we don't need other peoples' things.  

People who don't take care of themselves, or who are in the business of taking care of others will work to expand their power to no end because that is what they do, no matter how distasteful or morally bankrupt.  We see it now...fully modeled in the Obama administration.  

And yes, I do see a difference between right and left on this...


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3642481 rustymason
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Very true, and I think what Edward Snowden did was heroic. However, if he is such a genius, why did he vote for Obama and why did he think that would really change anything?

And people will forget, the MSM will make sure of that. Anyway, what are we supposed to do? Write our crooked, uncaring congressman? Go to our Marxist/globalist pastor? Vote in the rigged elections? Complain on talk radio? Not use our phones, not use the Internet, not send email? 

All of our social institutions are corrupted now, there is no support system for regular people to affect change. The capture of the West is now complete. Regular people have one option to fight back now, and that one ain't pretty.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:42 | 3642520 therearetoomany...
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He took the red pill AFTER those events...

Also, I still have to call horse hockey on the idea there is nothing we can do.

If we got enough people together, approx 5 million, to meet in DC for a week, starting on a sunday afternoon, calling for change, it will happen.   It worked briefly when the real tea party first got together, it worked so well in fact that it changed the 2010 elections, but then it was corrupted (Palin, Bachmann, that loon in Delaware)...and of course beat down by the media and the left and very much so by the right - as emphasized by the Jon Stewart bit on the igoring of Ron Paul....chief offender was Fox News.  

if 5 mill or more got together and demanded obama and biden out, demanded trials for all implicated, and called for special elections, and recalled congresspeople, things would change and real quick. 

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 14:58 | 3643129 rustymason
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Yes, IF. I've been hearing that people will wake up any day now and put a stop to all of this for 30 years. But what have the people done? Practically zip.

Conservatives/traditionalists/Constitutionalists have lost nearly every battle for the last 100 years, and that was before the severe dumbing down of education, the massive influx of third world foreigners, the explosion of mind-altering drugs, the total surveillance of all commmunications and movements, the militarization of the police, and the total capture of the culture by the radical left. What support structures do we have by which we could organize against the superpowerful Beast?

As a small example of the confusion, The People shat on Ron Paul, the only man in congress who was just what they said they wanted. The people were going to settle for Obama and Romney.

Give me real possibilities, not pie-in-the-sky IFs.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:18 | 3642420 g'kar
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And when they network my drones and missles into my system and give me control you can call me Colossus, Guardian or Skynet.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:20 | 3642440 dcj98gst
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We have security agencies creating Big Brother for our own good, of course. See capturing and surveying the country will help protect us from the evil that wants to take away our freedoms.

See... this is all so necessary to protect us from these evil terrorists that "hate us for our freedoms". Yes that is why they hate us, because we are so free from tyranny. So we need need this huge big brother type government to spy on us without probable cause to make sure that tyranny does not happen here. 


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3642450 rustymason
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The terrorists have already won. If you are called to jury duty, you are forced to go to the courthouse and be scanned and randomly groped by monkeys. Unlike flying or sports events, you cannot opt out.

Am I the only one who sees the stupidity of this U.S.S.A system? Lookit, I am being summoned to an important job like jury duty, but they trust me so little that I have to submit to being treated as a criminal.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:42 | 3642517 chubbar
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Jury duty is an excellent opportunity to nullify stupid laws. Please consider it next time you are called.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3642547 CB Newkirk III
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Jury Nullification


Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:22 | 3642452 Downtoolong
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How long before every newborn is forced to look at a Facebook Logo before it sees its mother’s face, and the latest MSM Money article is headlined, “Patriot Rating Now More Important Than Credit Rating When Applying For Mortgage Loans”?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:25 | 3642453 Yes We Can. But...
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I enjoyed Charles Hugh Smiths humor about the Gubmint's intense spying on the citizenry. 


However, there is nothing funny about this massive travesty and the grotesque size and nature of the US Federal Gubmint and its strange view on its relation to the citizenry.


If this Gubmint, this cancer upon us, is not treated, and soon, the Gubmint's communications with and actions toward citizens will in the not too distant future be far more mendacious and vile than portrayed by Smith.  The recent IRS abuse on partisan basis perpetrated by the goon Obama are just a warmup.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3642454 Satan
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Only way he Government will ever see things from your point of view is if you purchase a pair of Google Glasses...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3642468 ThisIsBob
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So they have all the personal and business calls and net use of the Congress & staff,  Supreme Court and White House?  That would be kind of fun to peek at.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:46 | 3642528 Bastiat
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That's how the shadow government controls them all.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3642479 q99x2
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Arrest Peter King.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:32 | 3642480 Element
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And you've got to wonder who's corrupting who here, more RT:

US Gulf allies crack down on Internet freedoms
Edited time: June 10, 2013 14:53
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Bahrain have tightened controls on Internet freedoms recently, targeting social media and phone applications alike in their communications crackdown.
Across the Gulf, dozens of journalists and social media users have been arrested since the beginning of the year for being in violation of the uncompromising national laws.
Punishments include deportation and lengthy prison sentences for crimes such as making derogatory comments about the government “in bad faith,” and offending religion and family values. In Saudi Arabia last month, top cleric Sheikh Abdul Latif Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh warned citizens against using Twitter, stating that those who use social media sites “have lost this world and the afterlife.” [they are very veeerryy naughty!!!]


Addressing gross human rights abuses among Washington’s Gulf Arab allies is problematic for the Obama Administration, as US Military bases in the region form what RT’s Marina Portnaya describes as a “strategic envelope around Iran.”


But they only take these extreme measures because the Iranians are crazy religious nutters and a threat to the freedoms of the region ...

Alternatively, our Arab 'allies' </cough *bullshit* cough> are a bunch of 11th century despotic gutter-trash ... which is rather apt really.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:35 | 3642491 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Looks like Obama is throwing Hillary under the bus to deflect from his problems. The sharks are turning on each other....

WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – Uncovered documents show the U.S. State Department may have covered up allegations of illegal behavior ranging from sexual assaults to an underground drug ring.

CBS News reports that is has unearthed documents from the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS), an internal watchdog agency, that implicate the State Department in a series of misconducts worldwide.

The memo, reported by CBS News’ John Miller, cited eight specific examples, including allegations that a State Department security official in Beirut “engaged in sexual assaults” with foreign nationals hired as embassy guards and the charge and that members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s security detail “engaged prostitutes while on official trips in foreign countries” — a problem the report says was “endemic.”

Former State Department internal investigator Aurelia Fedenisn told CBS News, “We also uncovered several allegations of criminal wrongdoing in cases, some of which never became cases.”

Often times, other DSS agents were simply told to back off of investigations of high-ranking State Department members. Fedenisn told CBS that “hostile intelligence services” allow criminal behavior to continue.

In one such cover-up, investigators were told to stop probing the case of a U.S. ambassador who was suspected of patronizing prostitutes in a public park. The memo states that the ambassador was permitted to return to his post despite having, “routinely ditched…his protective security detail” in order to “solicit sexual favors from prostitutes.”

A draft of the Inspector General’s report on the performance of the Diplomatic Security Service, obtained by CBS News, states, “Hindering such cases calls into question the integrity of the investigative process, can result in counterintelligence vulnerabilities and can allow criminal behavior to continue.”

Fedenisn was part of the team that drafted the whistleblower report, and CBS News reports that two hours after the charges were reported, investigators from the State Department’s Inspector General showed up at her door.

A statement to CBS News states, “It goes without saying that the Department does not condone interference with investigation by any of its employees.”


We all know about the Rhodes Brothers, the fiction talking points writer and the high level executive at CBS, enough said......... We also know what the big priority is of the Oreo House with sexual assaults (queue all press about military sexual assaults).

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:47 | 3642537 Bastiat
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I'm pretty sure throwing Hillary under the bus is a high risk move--she just might have a handful of scrotum.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3642546 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They are going to need a steamroller or more buses at this point as the revelations come out fast and furious to keep up with the bodies being thrown under the buses.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:52 | 3642559 Disenchanted
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Yeah, but I can't think of too many more fitting speed bumps for a bus. that I think about it, I can actually provide a pretty big list.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3642498 indio007
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This article is da BOMB!



Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:36 | 3642502 whatthecurtains
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The perpetual War (on Terror) is peace, Freedom (from questioning authority) is slavery, Ignorance (of what the NSA is doing) is strength

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3642504 NoTTD
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I'm not worried because I haven't done anything wrong.


Oh, wait.  I've done shitloads of wrong things.


Well, then.  I guess I'm fucked.


Like the rest of you.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:41 | 3642512 OldPhart
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It's time to embrace the situation.  My strong recommendation is that every piece of junk email, dirty joke, and assorted spam be forwarded to the following addresses.

If anyone has similar emails for individual vermin in government, please share with the class.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:42 | 3642515 Inthemix96
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Here NSA GCHQ, this is just me, one person, one of a legion out there watching you back you mother fuckers.

Go and fuck yourself, you think you bother me or the likes OF me?  You fucking dont.

Spy all you want on me, you'll find everytime I post or say something I couldnt give a fuck what you lot think, about me, I will villify you everytime I can to everyone I can.  You have a problem with that you fucking imbeciles come knock on my door.

You are meant to be fucking public employees, doing a fucking job that is to the betterment of your fellow citizens, not criminalizing them with bullshit spy bollocks.  How do you fuckers sleep at night eh?

Once again, you lot are beyond the pale, in the court of public opinion you are despised beyond belief, go and do something constructive for once in your pathetic existance, the whole damn lot of you should be brought up on treason charges and disband the rest.  This has gone too far past the point of sensibility for my liking, talk about jaded by the constant bullshit we have to put up and now this disgrace?  Just who the fuck do you people think you are?

Sickened doesnt come close to what these swines have me feeling like, this is downright disturbing.  You lot are overstepping the boundries of common decency.  There is not a day goes by now that I am not even suprised at what our governments have been allowed to get away with, I am sick of it, bring this shit show down for gods sake.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:42 | 3642519 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Well done.

As for us, the goose is cooked.

What's a Faraday cage?

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:43 | 3642526 stant
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welcome to the gulag archepeligo. techno style

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:44 | 3642527 robnume
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A. Magnus is right on! ECHELON and all it's subsidiary criminal orgs. need to JUMP, FUCKERS, JUMP!! If you won't go away on your own, we'll have to help you along a bit. Oh, I forgot to tell you: FUCK OFF AND DIE!!! btw, I know of a great "suicide bridge'. Be happy to take you there! Don't forget to wear your badges - me, I don't have to show you no stinkin' badges - I know that badge makes you feel powerful and omnipotent, but don't take it too seriously. In the eyes of the people, your badge just makes you an obvious stooge for the Feral Gov. Oh, and before I - or you - go, have a nice fuckin' day!!!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3642539 TrustWho
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Did you watch "V for Vendetta"? If not, you should because we all need to reflect on the image we see in the mirror.

Where can we find a Patrick Henry who told the VA legislators (much paraphased): "Yea, if you vote "Yes" for this legislation, the British may kill you. If you vote "NO", you will be a slave. Is life so precious? For me Give me liberty or Give me death."

Many people who gave this country its freedom, DIED at the hands of those who wanted no change. Can you imagine how MSNBC would describe Patrick Henry if he stated those words today. I can not imagine, because the venom would be running too deep.

If you want to understand how USA has changed, we shut down Boston over one pressure cooker attack to find one wounded boy. Patrick Henry cries.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:54 | 3642566 surf0766
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Echelon is bush's fault too. from 1947 throught 1971 /s

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:05 | 3642627 Duke Dog
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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:05 | 3642628 liquid bullion
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In order to protect you from the people who are trying to take ur freedom(those dirty terrorist bastards), we must take your freedom. This is america!

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 13:16 | 3642680 NickVegas
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Cash is king, even if they are Bernanke bucks. Have any of you slaves ever considered that merchant fees are paid when you use a credit card. You are ripping off the other side of your trade to no benefit to yourself, plus no electronic records to harvest. That is why they want a cashless economy. It consolidates power. 

As for ECHELON/PRISM, outrage is great, but I've heard no plan to disassemble the apparatus. It's more like suicide the leak, make up some limited hangout, and keep consolidating power until the event horizon is crossed, and the power of total information awareness is unleashed on the proles without recourse.

I believe this leak has been planned to see the if any resistance can be mustered. They are confident, and in totally control, and want to take a quick look at any hangups for downstream. To take a quote for Aliens, "5 x 5 in the pipe." 5 x 5 is a ham radio term, transmitting and receiving at full power or 5 out of 5 on the scale.

Willfully violating the Constitution is treason, yet the government is doing it daily. The Constitution was devised as a method to limit government power. They obviously have an insatiable appetite for power, like an LA porn star who was the homecoming queen somewhere in small town Indiana.





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