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27 Edward Snowden Quotes About U.S. Government Spying That Should Send A Chill Up Your Spine
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
Would you be willing to give up what Edward Snowden has given up? He has given up his high paying job, his home, his girlfriend, his family, his future and his freedom just to expose the monolithic spy machinery that the U.S. government has been secretly building to the world. He says that he does not want to live in a world where there isn't any privacy. He says that he does not want to live in a world where everything that he says and does is recorded. Thanks to Snowden, we now know that the U.S. government has been spying on us to a degree that most people would have never even dared to imagine.
Up until now, the general public has known very little about the U.S. government spy grid that knows almost everything about us. But making this information public is going to cost Edward Snowden everything. Essentially, his previous life is now totally over. And if the U.S. government gets their hands on him, he will be very fortunate if he only has to spend the next several decades rotting in some horrible prison somewhere.
There is a reason why government whistleblowers are so rare. And most Americans are so apathetic that they wouldn't even give up watching their favorite television show for a single evening to do something good for society. Most Americans never even try to make a difference because they do not believe that it will benefit them personally. Meanwhile, our society continues to fall apart all around us. Hopefully the great sacrifice that Edward Snowden has made will not be in vain. Hopefully people will carefully consider what he has tried to share with the world.
The following are 27 quotes from Edward Snowden about U.S. government spying that should send a chill up your spine...
#1 "The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate."
#2 "...I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents."
#3 "The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to."
#4 "...I can't in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they're secretly building."
#5 "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything."
#6 "With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards."
#7 "Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere... I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President..."
#8 "To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that's the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so."
#9 "I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians."
#10 "...they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behavior in the world known to them."
#11 "Even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded. ...it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life."
#12 "Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest."
#13 "Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state."
#14 "I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."
#15 "I don't want to live in a world where there's no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity."
#16 "I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong."
#17 "I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act."
#18 "There are more important things than money. If I were motivated by money, I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich."
#19 "The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things... And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that... because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny."
#20 "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."
#21 "You can't come up against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk."
#22 "I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me."
#23 "We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be."
#24 "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end."
#25 "There’s no saving me."
#26 "The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won't be able to help any more. That's what keeps me up at night."
#27 "I do not expect to see home again."
Would you make the same choice that Edward Snowden made? Most Americans would not. One CNN reporter says that he really admires Snowden because he has tried to get insiders to come forward with details about government spying for years, but none of them were ever willing to...
As a digital technology writer, I have had more than one former student and colleague tell me about digital switchers they have serviced through which calls and data are diverted to government servers or the big data algorithms they've written to be used on our e-mails by intelligence agencies. I always begged them to write about it or to let me do so while protecting their identities. They refused to come forward and believed my efforts to shield them would be futile. "I don't want to lose my security clearance. Or my freedom," one told me.
And if the U.S. government has anything to say about it, Snowden is most definitely going to pay for what he has done. In fact, according to the Daily Beast, a directorate known as "the Q Group" is already hunting Snowden down...
The people who began chasing Snowden work for the Associate Directorate for Security and Counterintelligence, according to former U.S. intelligence officers who spoke on condition of anonymity. The directorate, sometimes known as “the Q Group,” is continuing to track Snowden now that he’s outed himself as The Guardian’s source, according to the intelligence officers.
If Snowden is not already under the protection of some foreign government (such as China), it will just be a matter of time before U.S. government agents get him.
And how will they treat him once they find him? Well, one reporter overheard a group of U.S. intelligence officials talking about how Edward Snowden should be "disappeared". The following is from a Daily Mail article that was posted on Monday...
A group of intelligence officials were overheard yesterday discussing how the National Security Agency worker who leaked sensitive documents to a reporter last week should be 'disappeared.'
Foreign policy analyst and editor at large of The Atlantic, Steve Clemons, tweeted about the 'disturbing' conversation after listening in to four men who were sitting near him as he waited for a flight at Washington's Dulles airport.
'In Dulles UAL lounge listening to 4 US intel officials saying loudly leaker & reporter on #NSA stuff should be disappeared recorded a bit,' he tweeted at 8:42 a.m. on Saturday.
According to Clemons, the men had been attending an event hosted by the Intelligence and National Security Alliance.
As an American, I am deeply disturbed that the U.S. government is embarrassing itself in front of the rest of the world like this.
The fact that we are collecting trillions of pieces of information on people all over the planet is a massive embarrassment and the fact that our politicians are defending this practice now that it has been exposed is a massive embarrassment.
If the U.S. government continues to act like a Big Brother police state, then the rest of the world will eventually conclude that is exactly what we are. At that point we become the "bad guy" and we lose all credibility with the rest of the planet.
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What if Snowden just does what he is payed for? ;)
What if the piece of shit statists stopped trying to control everything?
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Just want you to know that I saw the post and actually did it. Queued up Rick Astley on the speakers, mic enabled, and pulsated appropriately. I hope this becomes a thing.
I am also 100% sober right now.
LOL
Everyone at the SEC is now applying for a job at the NSA
Coming to a LiveJasmin feed near you. (Why not?)
Fonz, you've opened up a whole new world of opportunity for me.
Thank you.
Snowden is just plain naive. He has many more opinions than informed understandinsg.
I'm the naive one here. I just simultaneously chicken-hearted and rickrolled the NSA with little information at my disposal.
Snowden, on the other hand, had plenty of information and did something much more meaningful than I did.
His convictions seem to be pretty strong. Gave up bangin' a decently hot chick. Poledancer too. Oh, the possibilities. Sigh. . . . . . .
https://www.google.com/search?q=lindsay+mills&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0qy3UeMsjID1BN6OgPgH&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1536&bih=860#tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%22lindsay+mills%22&oq=%22lindsay+mills%22&gs_l=img.3..0i10i24l3j0i24l4.3308.6318.0.6550.2.2.0.0.0.0.51.91.2.2.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.img.ucRCGKd1XFQ&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47810305,d.eWU&fp=f6cc146ea873f733&biw=1536&bih=860&facrc=_&imgrc=YUIVhgWcfkMOGM%3A%3BdYtwjK2CwhtrnM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdailycaller.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2013%252F06%252FLindsay-mills-cupcakes.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdailycaller.com%252F2013%252F06%252F11%252Fhere-is-the-nsa-whistle-blowers-alleged-girlfriend-photos%252F%3B625%3B625
Scenario: You're suspicious your spouse is spying on everything you do. One day a private detective comes to you telling you that he was hired to be part of the extensive surveillance network your spouse constructed to watch everything you do. He says he's left the country as your spouse has been known to fly off the handle and murder people but that is the risk he is willing to take for a clear conscious. Your spouse when confronted with the information flies into a rage and is almost 99% sure that the private detective has betrayed you and needs to be murdered. This after your spouse's long history of being vocally supportive of both sides of every argument. The 1% of doubt is mostly concerned with the possibility of spying on you all the time being a violation of their oath that they would never spy on you. Your friend who tells you all about the happenings in the world every night bemoans the fact your spouse didn't hire a police officer as they would have never spilled the beans and you wouldn't have to know you are being abused. Your spouse wants to debate if spying on you all the time is worth the added security you get. However, you realize that your spouse watched while a thug punched in your front two teeth in 2001 and even had past ties to the thug in fights with other people. And just recently your spouse was watching as two nimrods kneecapped you at a 5K. Your spouse gives examples of how he caught people that were going to attack you but upon closer scrutiny you realize that your spouse hired and fomented those people's plans to attack you.
Questions: Do you trust your spouse? Does the fact that your spouse has a history of watching you get terrorized make you doubt that the surveillance is for your safety? Why do you think your spouse is spying you? Does your spouse really care about you or your safety? Do you think you need a divorce?
Don't forget that your spouse has purple lips and comes from Kenya
A National Socialist Amerika wouldn't be THAT bad...Country & Western singers might flourish like, like a little flower.
See: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uJuacmbtzls
(Yes I know she's from Oz)
I love Ron Paul
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2531662
Of course very early on in the story on MSN they get in there the (alleged) fact that the White House fence jumper is registered Republican and voted last fall. Dumb fuckers in the media still don't get it.
#3648423
Petraeus comes to mind.
There should already have been a 9 million person (constituting less than 3% of the U.S. population) march on Washington D.C. (targeting the White House, Capitol Building & Supreme Court) in response to Prismgate.
This march should be of the type that unambiguously signals that the American People are now proclaiming "Enough!" to the complete disregard of their RIGHTS by agents of all branches of government THAT WORK FOR THEM, and charged with the quite fundamental task of ensuring strict compliance with constitutional governance (rather than blatant disregard of same).
This march should be peaceful in its form, but in no way passive or anything other than VERY aggressive in its message to BigGov.org (and especially the deeply captured and corrupted CONgress and Puppet in the White House.
Whoever has a twitter account, get the ball started.
zerohedge march. I'm in.
A march of every age, political affiliation (or independence, as it may be), income bracket, etc. background, focused on and united in their belief, as a singular point of petition of redress, that they will no longer tolerate government entities as they are now comprised nor the activities that these entities perpertuate or delegate to other governmental agencies or quasi-governmental agencies to perpetuate (abdicating their most sacrosanct and fundamental duties).
A 9 Million Citizen March on D.C. would shut the place down (that's ALWAYS a good thing) and be a good starting point in letting the cesspool of rot that is out deeply captured and corrupted branches of government know that a breaking point is no longer a mere hypothetical.
Call the ball man.
What would marching accomplish? As apposed to, say, 9 million Americans not paying their 2013 taxes? Hey, just askin'.
I'm revolting.
That's what my wife says.
The middle class is revolting. That's what Ben says every day of his miserable life, and until it has the other meaning it has no meaning.
Some youngsters wrote something about mutually pledging “ our Lives, our Fortunes and our Sacred Honor”
They were younger and way smarter than the old farts that controlled things and they were courageous.
We should beseech the Higher Power that we may be blessed with such youthful and invigorant wisdom and courage again.
Very narrow thread! Nice avatar.
I don't know about accomplish, but it might invite 100 million hollow points.
"Enough" will not be enough. Who will make sure the machine is turned off completely and for good? Snowden will be the William Wallace of the 21st century.
"FREEDOM"
I recall a time decades ago when segments of the population openly left their TV sets and demonstrated non-stop against policy. This was the 60's. Openly hit the streets world-wide.
Who has that moral compass now? Snowden it would seem.
Bloggers and Zero Hedge wannabes ZIP action. All talk and back to the TV set or back to the stock charts or back to " Not me".
I look at my neighbourhood. Nobody stands up for anything inconvenient to their personal comfort.
@TruthInSunshine:
"THAT WORK FOR THEM" -- No you can only say that when the service arrangement is based on voluntary exchange. Under voluntary exchange "we" directly would retain the obvious remedy of refusing to buy their services anymore. Instead, they actually get their pay from a criminal syndicate. They don't work for "us" then they work for those who continue to extort and steal taxes at the point of a gun from "us" (the victims). Thus they are part of a criminal syndicate. You see the "boss" is the one with the power to BUY their "work" and that ain't us!! Article 1, sec 8, clause 1, US Constitution: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes .......
That is the foundation of the problem. Plant an evil seed and you get evil fruit. All governments on this earth are similarly based on this criminal force. To get a new world without this form of organized crime that commits most of the mass murder, theft, and fraud on this planet, we must stop planting the seed (no more "taxation").
Good article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-and-the-disruption-of-government/
For those of you who still think it is useful to beg a criminal not to behave like a criminal you could try the White House petition to pardon Snowden:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD
Last count, signatures up to 60,329.
truth in sunshine, a march on DC, well I was at the big tea party march on DC, we flooded the area next to the mall we flooded the side streets - families old young all races, only to have the MSM report we were not there in any large number..all of MSM down played the size of our march ...now the tea party is cast as tin foil hat nuts, to the delight of those on the left or co opted by Repubs. One of the points we all stood for was smaller .gov every single one of us- that is why we are the enemy of those even here on ZH for central large government you know leftist progressives and sadly many big wig elite GOP goons.
nobody in their right mind wants a shooting war with .gov, having been in a civil war in a SE Asia country, most of the population wanted to be left alone they want a normal life, not to be in the fight. but they at times had to choose by those on each side, they died for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I left that war while still in country, for I saw the misery the senseless deaths and pain. for LBJ to enrich the elite- like today's police actions - I still know young men who justed returned from Afgan,they said to me it is hopeless we have won nothing there, even the most dense who go there know, it's like my war , a place for elite to make money on blood and pain. there are ways to fight .gov, but using a gun is the most stupid. let us hope enough of us find tools that hurt them without killing our families and friends..there is hope, we are common people, we all see it..there is hope.
I beg your pardon; they certainly do get it. this "information" is approved by a professional motivational psychologist and the owners of the MSM; it will significantly help you to form the "correct opinion".
Why? He's 'worried', like everyone else. He thinks it's 'a shame' that truth-tellers get into 'trouble'.
WTF?
He was a Congressman for over 30 years. He has connections. He could stand up straight and call all this bullshit what it is. He could use more strenuous, honest language. He could be a real fuckin' hero and start shouting about who the real treasonous traitors are - but no. No. No, Ron Paul isn't gonna start telling any real truths anytime soon. He's gonna use some nice soft words to explain his concerns and not suggest one thing that ought be done about it and to whom.
Ron - like Snowjob - has a role. He plays it well. He uses mommy language to eplain to us kids why the mean old world is what it is and, well, it's just best to wring our collective hands and grin and bear it. BE assured, tho, he is worried.
Bah.
LOL, everyone thinks this is about "us" but it is about POWER....The entire program is part of a system designed to steal, rob, and assault the sheeple who think we are still a "free Republic" when in fact we are 90% on the way to East Germany with just one more wall left to construct; the outright seizure of private property for the public good, which is already happening in some communities.
Why the NSA nonsense? Not for terrorism, but for this:
The NSA Scandal Explains how Mitt Romney Lost the Election
Above link doesn't work - try this one:
http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2013/06/11/the-nsa-scandal-explains-how...
Well said RCD, RP is a religion, not A Pol.
explains why even intelligent folk cannot see behind the curtain in his case.
as for this increasingly shifty looking snowden story..... seems more and more of a construct every day.
Even his thoughts, read like a script.
Scripted....
A leaky wiki comes to mind...
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/of-leaking-wikis-and-true-lies/
ori
You sound kind of scripted right now.....
Hmmmm.... putting aside RiP for the moment, a pole dancing girlfriend?
Snowed-in?
Back to RiP, let's just call him Sir Saidalot DidNuthin, shall we?
Oh, wait, he raised awareness. 30 years of awareness raising and look where you are.
ori
that's his fault?
I'm saying all he was, was a lightening rod for the well-meaning, intelligent and somewhat contrarian "voter".
Nothing more. Not a thing more.
And now his dynasty is secure, with a son who speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
ori
i hear you. it seems like he did his job. That's all I'm saying.
You're actually trying to criticize Ron Paul? What the fuck have you ever contributed to humanity?
Why, look at you sportin' a snappy little Anarchist avatar with Ron Paul's dick in your mouth.
L0L!
And look at you, the statist born-eunuch. What's the matter--are you bitter for being born brainless and spineless--as well without balls--to sibling parents? Sucks to be your dumb ass, not that you'd be smart enough to know. Let's pose the original question to your useless self, too--what the fuck have you ever contributed to humanity? So you know, being a mindless waste of air and food, as you are, counts against your net value to humanity.
Go cook some cockroaches over a cow dung fire and stop bothering people who live in the real world.
Just like Colbert and Jon Stewart, they will make jokes, but they won't ever actually tell you its criminal, and gone too far, and time to put a stop to the surreal nightmare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0
Softer language is more appropriate for certain groups of people who must be carefully weaned away from their simpler misconceptions. This world is in very serious trouble caused by very serious misconceptions that are threatening to crash civilization as we know it. Two big ones being nuclear power and fossil fuels as implemented by limited liability entities (otherwise known as "take the money and run") corporations. And a third very great misconception: that great enabler, governments, based on force instead of individual self-government based on cooperation. The present governments by force are the enablers of "limited liability" corporate scams.
The serious truths that must be understood and implemented can be several rungs of the ladder higher than most people are able to even comprehend or reach at this moment. If they can grasp some of the easier lower rungs of truths first then they might be able to grasp and reach for the more important ones later. You can't strike at the root of a problem until you first recognize the problem, then you must learn how the root came to be and how it survives and grows.
Yeah, I'd cheer if Ron Paul started calling for exposure of the harder truths of government corruption and cover-ups. I suspect that during his career, he may've been made to sign non-disclosure agreements, as many law-makers apparently also are--as a recent example, see ZH's coverage of Prism and the statements of lawmakers sworn to secrecy. Perhaps Dr. Paul believes he might lose his own freedom for discussing aspects of history.
Regardless of what Ron Paul has not exposed, and why he hasn't done it, in his life, he has contributed more to humanity than I suspect you could, Race Car Driver, in a thousand lifetimes. So let's keep things in perspective, while you S--your stupid ass--TFU.
Thank you for the eye-beating, impenetrable wall of text.
Dude! TinyURL ... please.
I guess she loved that money he was making. Also I feel for the guy because he really has no choice but to defect to another country. He's wanted and they are hunting him.
....And it will be turnkey tyranny."
And that's the most chilling thing for me that Snowden said.....it's now just a simple matter of a turnkey system for tyranny to be installed. This used to take a massive amount if infrastructure build out and manpower.
I guess though.....it still took a massive amount of infrastructure buildout and manpower....it was called the military-industrial complex and the time period was the Cold War.....now the build out is nearly complete with the NSA Utah complex and now it really is turnkey.
Welcome to Prison Planet
"I'll let you be in my Karass, if I can be in yours...."
I think Abraham Lincoln said that.
TYMP
Thank You, Moon Pie.
Lose credability? You start wars that can't be won, you lose more than that.
“AMERICA WILL BE THE EASIEST OF ALL NATIONS TO CONQUER. DIVIDED AGAINST HERSELF, THE UNITED STATES WILL OFFER LITTLE OPPOSITION TO OUR IDEOLOGY WHEN THE HOUR TO STRIKE HAS COME.”
-DR. JOSEPH GOEBBELS
REICHNINISTER OF PROPAGANDA
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it… It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
- Joseph Goebbels, Propaganda Minister for Adolph Hitler
“The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it.”
-Dr Josef Mengele (Infamous Nazi doctor)
“How fortuned for leaders men don’t think.”
“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.”
-The Fuhrer
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson
AMEN, I needed that today.
Does that make resistance to other men's gods obedience to one's self?
I have lots of respect for TJ, but it's unfortunate that he was a God-delusion sufferer. Nobody's perfect.
See what Cisco Wheeler says about Mengele.
Lost more than credibility. You start wars. (Full stop)
Naivety is easy, that's why most people are, some by choice, some by circumstance. Snowden is very much awake, just imagine knowing that the most powerful government in the history of the world wants you dead?
RUN EDDY RUN
Yeah, that's it Ratso. Brilliant analysis. Where do I sign up for your newsletter?
@ratso, it sounds like you are describing most of Congress, definitely sounds like our VP, and I would also say you are describing the empty suit occupying the White House right now. Lots heat, but no light anywhere in DC these days.
And your 'understanding' is somehow more informed than Snowden's? Really, that's very interesting. For which branch of the intelligence apparatus have you been employed? Oh, just the propaganda department? Well, anyway, at least you've outed yourself as a statist shill; oh, wait, you've done that long before today.
Awesome! I only saw the first part of the post so I can't say i did the whole thing right. This is definitely meme worthy.
Here is a very interesting read that takes this in a whole new direction and level. A must read:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/did-someone-help-ed-snowde...
For the premise of that article to be valid, we would have to accept that human eyes looked at massive amounts of the narrative in the data that was collected. Not enough human resources to do that. The computers are looking for patterns among phones calling each other. When patterns are discovered, only a small amount of the total data collected is examined for narrative. That would not be enough narrative to provide the intelligence to do all the things posited in the article. That stuff in the article is still in the realm of fiction.
Hello Richard. They don't throw away anything. You are confusing processing they may or may not do now with information they retain ... for later perusal with improved, refined tech. They're working away as we speak. See the new site in Utah.
William Binney talked about capturing data as it enters and leaves the US to meet security requirements and safe guard Constitutional rights. Instead, he was over ruled and the data is collected domesticly. There is no acceptable excuse for this domestic spying on citizen taxpayers in our Constitutional republic.
It's a crime scene.
Tin hat time.
So where are we at in this journey from democracy? Are we really to start contemplating what we should do in an uprising and when we should begin? To think about how we would target the government, it's employees and protectors, our own neighbors and even family? Is that where we're at because of these few motherfuckers? Is there no political solution because they own the law?
Wait a minute, didn't Gene Hackman teach us all this sometime back in the 90's? Could have swore...
The Federal government has declared war on the American people. It's time to pick up your rifles and defend your country, your homes, and your families. Anyone still working for this government is a traitor to the Constitution and the American People, and they are your enemy. Anyone STILL working for the NSA, FBI, ATF, IRS, Secret Service, or politician that has done nothing about Obama's fake ID or the government's transgression of the Constitution should be on your list - and that includes the so-called TEA party "conservative" politicians who have done Nothing to defend the Constitution they swore an oath to defend. The time is now people, or learn to be content in your slavery.
WC - I appreciate a lot of what you are saying, but in asymetric warfare, when the trend is your friend, you rejoice and go with it.
No need to mess with the trend til it's working against you and needs a redirect.
They've been doing a lot to egg us on; I thought I'd return the favor.
Where does Snowden go to hide out??? China!!! Funny he thinks somebody looking at where you look on Google is horrible. Dumb fuck! China won't even let you look at Google. Enjoy
Hong Kong Johnny. Not the same. Check it out.
for good reason it seems
We are f*cked.
In the short term. But we've had plenty of time to prepare and hoard. In the long term the Cult of Statism is FUCKED. And they know it......
i don't buy the fact that we're fucked. the cabalists need to reveal their plans before they can subjugate us. it's called the humilation phase. if george bush and barry obama are the best they can muster to deliver the message, i like our chances. i think the internet fucked their plans and they are acting out of desperation.
hear hear
The way I explained it to my bro was, its one thing to write legislation saying you can steal grandma and grandpa's pension. Its another to actually go ahead and do it.
One may pass with little fanfare or repercussions, one will not.
I'm not sure the Internet fucked their plans. The Internet has made their plans possible. Cell phones, the Internet, wireless communications. Seems to me all of this technology we are now so tied to was all part of the plan. Like, maybe they, The Bilderbergers, invented and developed all this shit for an entirely nefarious reason. Things that make you go .... hmmmm.
the internet has disrobed the emperor
...but left the people naked.
You are experiencing a cyclical shift between a system of justice and one which accepts all equally. Within the crew of "equality" exist those that do harm to others(as which also exists in the justice camp), the difference though for the equality crew is that everyone is equal in their rights as individuals, regardless as to their harm to others(generally granted on a social justice basis), in opposition to choice with reasonable restrictions, including consent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qp3Oxe0GMk
There is no specific cult, only individuals who adhere to specific exploitative dogmas.
Fubar, since 1919.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Chamber
All quiet on the western front. I mean, what did the people think the new Utah data center is good for?
This scandalization just means someone wants a new POTUS.
Note that Benghazi dropped off the radar due to all this.
My bet is the Clintons (and their shadowy benefactors) are behind the sudden scandals. This first gets some revenge on Obama for not playing ball with Hillary this term, and second gets the Benghazi scandal (and Hillary's involvement) out of the press.
The goal of course being Hillary 2016...
And she will win because "OMG, we can elect the first female President!"
Now I want to vomit.
Benghazi wasn't the only scandal to drop off the radar---Anyone remember fast and furious?
I remember Fast and Furious.
What I want people to remember is Corzine Gate.........
and.......
TooBigToProsecute Gate.
Where is that Ken Starr? He was a little pit bull ferreting this stuff out.
nah, the freedom fighters were FINALLY able to get one of their own inside the STATIST SYSTEM. sure took a while, and see how nice he was, so far, not to name names, JUST SYSTEMS AND MACHINES. DO NOT let his efforts be in vain.
why is FATTY, FAT, FAT, FATTY, chris christie appearing on my screen right now?
YES. I hope this guy snowden lives up to his instantaneous position as saviour and superhero, but I'm gonna wait and hear more about this story before I rush to hoist him up on my shoulders.
The govt and all statists are truly evil despicable pieces of shit. But something (everything these days it seems) stinks. WHY?! are there suddenly so many leaks and scandals being exposed?! Something aint right...
Once again, I hope snowden is everything so many want him to be, but I'm not jumpin on the wagon yet.
Has John Connors been born yet?
We are all John Connors now.
We are f*cked.
More than you comprehend....ANYONE of you can be "disapeared" anytime by a government long beyond your control,
What do YOU do about it, yawn and flick to another channel? An old saying...you deserve the government you get... and brother you have it in spades.....
Who is this new "Black Hand" you speak of?
Give Me A Break.
Where have you been since 9/11?
THis is OLD FUCKING NEWS.
Surveillance was known under Bush; corrected with Court Approval and oversight by Congress.
Snowden did not reveal anything new.
And all of you are acting like "We're Shocked! Shocked! Spying is going on".
9-11, the day "terrorism" won before the "war" started.
Next up, my pet goat, George.
This NSA "spying" is not a new thing.....
Google up Main Core. It's been going on since the 80's.
I do wonder who's watching the watchers.
The watchers will also watch the watchers and then turn one each other for political purposes
Nielson
You teachers apparently weren't paid to teach you spelling...anyways, we are in for a bloody fight with some evil motherfuckers.
Yous weren't either it seems....
Hey, you too cut it out!
pods
I didn't say anything about grammar rocky
Ever wonder about Artificial Intelligence and the development of personalities that are created by machines?
Does anyone remember when the US tapped all the underwater cables in the USSR? The soviets found one of the Lucent devices and put it on display in a museum.
Honestly, all this secrecy is not to keep the other guys in the dark. Its to keep the citizens in the dark.
Anything good on TV tonight?
Moo. Did I say that right...
Record that mofos...
Why doesnt Zerohedge have an https alternative? Seriously how hard is this to do? I'm surprised it doesnt exist given the audience on this website.
Thanks but I dont want my isp knowning what articles I'm reading (yes yes I know I can get a vpn).
I've been wondering the same thing. It only minimum protection and probably wouldn't help against NSA
Why doesnt Zerohedge have an https alternative? Seriously how hard is this to do? I'm surprised it doesnt exist given the audience on this website.
Thanks but I dont want my isp knowning what articles I'm reading (yes yes I know I can get a vpn).
What if Snowden just does what he is payed for? ;)
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GODDAM ASSHOLE LICKING MOTHERFUCKING FUCKITY FUCK MOTHER FUCKER FUCKIN FUCK-FACE ASSHOLE PIG FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCKERS FUCK FUCK MOTHER FUCKER FUCKIN FUCK-FACE ASSHOLE PIG FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCKERS...
...and tits...
it's a stack of fuck shit on top of itself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NubXXg5Rk&feature=player_embedded
meanwhile in London, the police state descends on a bunch of kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxuFMHmtVAo
and the media (ITN) call it "clashes"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ir_7vgdKg
PR what the fuck happened to your neck? Looks like you got yourself all Stephen Hawkined up there. Does it fucken hurt?
Maybe get yourself into one of these fight clubs and get the thing straightened out a little. eh?
welcome to fight club!
I heard it was neutered. Still good tho Tylers.
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB
2nd rule... You do not identify cheesepopes on FIGHT CLUB...
ixquick isn't helping me with this query, so somebody, please tell me what the fuck is a "cheesepope"?
I explained it 3 times today already... [& at least thrice in the past]
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At this point, the 'Cliff's Notes' are sold out [like copies of 1984] on Amazon...
Never mind, I just read the 5/10/13 bulletin on racial discrimination on ZH. I think I understand what a cheesepope is since I've been reading your posts for at least a year. ;)
You're mistaken...
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They're a softball team...
No, actually Vince Lombardi was the first cheesepope... geez, I thought everybody knew that. Damn educational system.
I get by with a little help from my freindsssssssssssss.
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The 'cheesepope families' I'm referring to in this instance are the shareholders of the [non]Federal [non]Reserve [& the ludicrous idea that all their so called 'assets' were earned the same way as everyone else, through sweat & blood, instead of just printing money whenever they feel like it]... & who, since 1913, can counterfeit money for themselves and are doing so at a hockey stick pace at present...
Unless you consider my summary inaccurate...
It is rumored, for example, that the Rothschild enteprise [whose main functions are the BOE & the Fed]... Hold anywhere from 100-500 trillion dollars in notional assets... For doing what?... [I'll answer that actually ~ basically doing whatever it takes to rack up the most amount of debt ~ which, in turn, means 'STARTING WARS' & creating FEAR [like 'terror'] & publicizing the hell out of it so it becomes an enteprise in of itself both in terms of the MIC & public opinion]... Other things include 'social safety nets' [such as Johnson's Great Society & Obamacare]...
One things for certain... Even with a paltry 100 trillion ~ it's enough to buy all the politicians, bankers, media whores, & activists you'd ever need to keep folks like yourself & your wife thinking the world REALLY runs on fancy bikinis...
That's the 'families' of the cheesepopes... Whose relatives [the cheesepopes themselves], aren't even aware of their possible family tree &/or prefer to ignore it & spend their passing fancy doing stupid things like playing softball & pretending everything is normal...
I hear they buy their uniforms at Banana Republic... & if they have to dress up fancy to attend the 6th Place trophy award ceremony for their homeschooled kids, they go to Jos A Bank...
...enough to buy all the politicians, bankers, media whores, & activists you'd ever need...
Those are not assets I'd want on my balance sheet.
You've taken rule two out of context once again.
"2nd rule... You do not identify cheesepopes on FIGHT CLUB..." 7,562 times in a row and abuse the freedom of speech forum Tyler has provided for us.
Bootlicker!! Attack the content. Not the messenger. Telling him to shut up is not addressing the content.
Dude's fukked......hey, they schmaked JFK 50 years ago and people still think it was the lone patsy.
Spurs -3
I read somewhere, JFK wanted to take money creation out of the hands of the FED and give it to the Treasury. Six months later he was dead.
Humm.....
Everybody from the mafia, to the CIA, to the FED, to the cheesepopes, to Castro wanted JFK dead...
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Fuck ~ most want francis_sawyer dead too... But I can whip up a pretty mean Boliche & Chicken Marsala, & have Yasiel Puig & Francesco Molinari starting on my fantasy baseball & golf teams this week, [so the Cubans & Mafia guys leave me alone]...
Yah, which arm of the mafia was Jack Rubinstein tied to?
I gotta pick Sandy Koufax for *my* team, I guess.
What is the Murray Hill Gang, Alex?
DaddyO
Who said Italians were the only organized criminals? Ruby was part of the Meyer Lansky wing of organized crime if I recall correctly. Speaking of criminal cheesepopery...
You should pick Ryan Braun... If you get lucky, maybe you can pick him up off the waiver wire after somebody dumps him because MLB whacks him for the steriod clinic link...
You are walking a mighty fine cp line there EatAPeach.
BTW - LLoyd George http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qop0CGHAo
Props for the The Allman Brothers Band " Eat A Peach".
Additionally, Lincoln tried to put the 2nd bank of the US out of action, shot in head,
Kennedy tries with Fed, shot in the head.
Actually, Lincoln's crime was the creation of the Greenback. He had the nerve to create it directly, at no interest, and unmediated by any bank.
Correct ~ Andrew Jackson DID succeed to not renew the 20 year charter of the 2nd Bank of the United States when it expired... They tried to kill him & missed...
President McKinley was for "bi-metalism" or silver and gold as money. They killed him.
Actually, Dead Canary, there is much misunderstanding about that (perhaps purposely so in the revisionism vein). What President Kennedy did was to directly spur the economy to the benefit of working Americans (the majority of decent folk) by going around the Federal Reserve (the first and only president to do so) and injecting $4.3 billion into the American economy, which made the banksters really, really mad and running scared.
Of course, the Kennedy administration did many other positive actions: the Alliance For Progress, originally meant to spur on land reform and economic democracy throughout Latin America, was completely corrupted and compromised after his assassination.
He also did an end-run around the sheltering of the super-rich's wealth offshore, as well as the corporations' hiding their money offshore. His last budget would have benefitted the workers, while reining in the Wall Streeters, much to their chagrin, as well as greatly lowering and circumventing the oil depletion allowance.
There is much more which time doesn't allow --- would suggest you read Donald Gibson's outstanding book on this matter:
Battling Wall Street: The Kennedy Presidency
A must read for every concerned citizen!
U left out Murchison & all the Texas oil money interests...
Red Dawn Snowed
ufu ~ OMG!... ~ lol
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Just so you know fuu... If I ever get booted off this site, I'm coming back as:
'Races Fray Wins'