FaceBook Changes "Privacy" Features Once More

Tyler Durden's picture

and for anyone unsure - because the lines between reality and surreality are ever-blurring - this is humor (h/t @JoshZumbrun).

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What isn't, however, humor is the following updated statement from the company, just released:

  • FACEBOOK: DON'T WORK DIRECTLY W/NSA TO PROACTIVELY GIVE DATA
  • FACEBOOK: CO. GIVES MINIMUM AMOUNT OF INFO FROM GOVT. REQUESTS

Odd, because a few days ago, Zuckerberg said this:

  • Zuckerberg: "Facebook is not and has never been part of any program to give the US or any other government direct access to our servers."

And unless we are very wrong, there is a bit of a difference between "never been part of any NSA program" and "not proactively giving data to the NSA." ... So, only unproactively?

 

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koaj's picture

I would upvote you but that would ensure my early arrival at re education camp.

Pladizow's picture

FFF: Fuck Face Fuck!

Stackers's picture

Ah, The 3 F Rule .....

 

If it Floats, Flies or Fucks ..... Rent It !

Dr. Richard Head's picture

FACEBOOK: DON'T WORK DIRECTLY W/NSA TO PROACTIVELY GIVE DATA; HOWEVER WE WILL WORK DIRECTLY W/NSA IN A REACTIVE MEASURE WHEN TOLD TO DO SO.  HAPPY POSTING BITCHEZ!!!!!

Obchelli's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiie_zmSr8

The Alan Parsons Project- Eye in the Sky

 

Timeless:

"...That's how it goes 

Cause part of me knows what you're thinkin' 

Don't say words you're gonna regret 

Don't let the fire rush to your head ..."

 

"...I am the eye in the sky

Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that
I can read your mind, I can read your mind

..."

quintago's picture

Yeah, after this revelation I think the face recognition feature makes me more comfortable. I don't even have fB but I've told everyone I know not to keep me off that shit.

MillionDollarBogus_'s picture

"...Baltimore Gas & Electric (BGE, now Constellation Energy) provided NSA with 65 to 75 megawatt-hours at Ft. Meade in 2007, and expected that an increase of 10 to 15 megawatt-hours would be needed later that year. In 2011, NSA at Ft. Meade was Maryland's largest consumer of power. In 2007, as BGE's largest customer, NSA bought as much electricity as Annapolis, the capital city of Maryland..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency

Would be interesting to know how much NSA's electricity usage spiked upward, after the Guardian released the Snowden story.  Their data center server hard drives must be working overtime........ 

 

 

MisterMousePotato's picture

Didn't know that MDB had it in him (adding something useful to a conversation). Or am I thinking of someone else?

dwdollar's picture

I know most here believe the end comes with collapse and/or war (as do I) but at least call your CONgressman and senators to voice your disapproval. Any resistance may buy us a little more time to prepare. I called two today and got someone within 5 minutes. That's just sad. Jam those lines and mock the NSA while you're waiting.

James_Cole's picture

The Onion and reality in the USA continue their convergence...

BlueCollaredOne's picture

You're thinking of milliondollarbonus.

That being said, he/she posts in a satire voice of someone through the status quo so his posts are one of my favorites whenever I I get a chance to read.

ALANBEEKMAN's picture

No, his handle should be 'Million Down Votes'

/8O)

StychoKiller's picture

Million Dollar Bogus_ != Million Dollar Bonus

koan's picture

And a few groups are spamming trigger words/phrases and other tells throughout the phone system and internet in an effort to saturate.

StychoKiller's picture

"It's almost a feeling you can touch in the air.

You look all around you but nobody's there.

It's been a long time since you've been aware

That someone is watching you (He's gonna get you!)"

--  Alan Parsons, "I, Robot" album

SnobGobbler's picture

funny how people think these companies are "giving" all their data to nsa; seems no one mentions their ability to simply record everything...sick and twisted.

sure they give out data, but the .gov just pipes it all through them first.

fuck those piece of shit dirt-bag motherfuckers; hfhujemnuismsmenhhh <CARRIER LOST>

Pseudonymous's picture

Let's clear this up.

And unless we are very wrong, there is a bit of a difference between "never been part of any NSA program" and "not proactively giving data to the NSA." ... So, only unproactively?

Yes, "reactively"... to a secret order or a directive, which might well encompass all current and, heck, even future data (if not, they could simply reissue an order every day). The US government has simply brought in an indefinite indictment against the world.

But the more important difference between these two quotes:

Zuckerberg: "Facebook is not and has never been part of any program to give the US or any other government direct access to our servers."

and

FACEBOOK: DON'T WORK DIRECTLY W/NSA TO PROACTIVELY GIVE DATA

is the one between "to give the US or any other government" and "DON'T WORK DIRECTLY W/NSA". In fact, the first statement contradicts the whole leaked story, while the second, official one, I would argue, carefully maneuvers around the important details, but tacitly admits that the story is true.

Indeed, the original Washington Post article (an earlier version of which is also quoted in the article here on ZH) states:

In exchange for immunity from lawsuits, companies such as Yahoo and AOL are obliged to accept a “directive” from the attorney general and the director of national intelligence to open their servers to the FBI’s Data Intercept Technology Unit, which handles liaison to U.S. companies from the NSA.

So Facebook could more candidly say something like this:

"FACEBOOK WORKS WITH THE FBI TO GIVE ANY DATA THEY REQUEST, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T ALLOW US TO DISCLOSE WHETHER OR NOT THAT MEANS ALL OUR DATA"

glenlloyd's picture

Does anyone even use face plant anymore?

LostAtSea's picture

Yes, and everyone should use a false facebook account full of fictional wild tales of life. Lead the fuckers through a maze of empty dead ends.

Renegade Thought Crimes's picture

At first I thought you were referring to Lew Rockwell. Oh well.

But, spin back to 1982 and you have "Electric Eye" by Judas Priest:

You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind.
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time.

Etc. etc.

 

insanelysane's picture

I was at a social gathering last year.  Buffet type event.  I am seated next to this person for dinner and we strike up conversation.  They told me they were an investigator and had access to the back end of Facebook.  Didn't matter what privacy setting you had, they could connect and see all of your stuff.  This person told me not to post too much info on the site which I don't anyway.  At the time I was thinking that this person is embellishing their job.  Not anymore.

Sid James's picture

Did his lapel badge say Zuckerberg?

emersonreturn's picture

i've never been on facebook, can't imagine why any sane human would.  get rid of your cell, your credit card...let them work to find you.  

francis_sawyer's picture

No cell fone or credit cards [since 2006]... No Facebook, ever...

~~~

I'm sure they... Or even half the 'Satoshi' sychophants on this blog could still pin me down with not much effort, but I don't give a flying fuck...

I figure...

Yeah ~ I'll be serving fries to your kids on the way to their ski trips... But at least I won't be unoriginal...

GoinFawr's picture

@ LostAtSea

 

Inciteful suggestion.

 

Berkeley Breathed approved profile:

 

Weight: 36lbs.
Height: 2'11".
Pants size: I don't wear any pants.
Sexual Preference: Svelte buoyant water fowl.

 

(not a link to fb)

SnobGobbler's picture

about a third of their users are fake.

fockewulf190's picture

Of course, Suckerberg isn't saying anything about "indirect" access to FB's servers now is he.

Groundhog Day's picture

Just deleted my facebook account....feels weird not having the account eventhough i rarely used it

Big Slick's picture

You're a better man than me, Groundhog!

I couldn't do it.  I COULDN'T DO IT.  Wrote "F-U" in the field that said 'Why Leaving' and everything... and I coudn't bring myself to do it.  I am a wet noodle.  Looking for a pep-talk!!!

BoNeSxxx's picture

Go for the mini delete and just remove the actual photos of yourself and any actual personal data... I am in the same camp. I want to delete but it's great for keeping tabs on my offspring.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

 

it's great for keeping tabs on my offspring.

 

The NSA agrees.

francis_sawyer's picture

Hey Crockett!... I UPVOTED YOU!... This calls for a musical celebration!...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdIpoE2LEps

BoNeSxxx's picture

Yea I saw that one coming and almost threw the edit in there myself.

+1 from Bones too.

I did it by Occident's picture

you do know that they never are actually deleted, FB will always have them in their giant archive.   But on another note, go ahead have an FB account, just don't post much of anything on it.  Or just post nonsense like everyone else does.  Hell, just keep it for appearances.  Pretty soon they'll be looking askance at anyone without a FB account asking you why you "aren't with the program yet?"

 

 

SilverRhino's picture

That information once it's up there is never going away.   Well, short of a large EMP burst over geographically disbursed data centers and that one place in Utah that is archiving everything.

(now there's an idea) 

 

1C3-N1N3's picture

.

Looking for a pep-talk!!!

Several years ago, I removed everyone from my "Friends" list that I didn't talk to on a regular basis -- which was all but ~30 people.

Soon thereafter, I realized I already talk to everyone on my list in real life and didn't "need" F_B anymore. Easy as pie.

MySpace was a lot easier for me because I got censored off of it right after Murdoch bought them circa '05. x_X

NOTW777's picture

do you think your posts on ZH are not reviewed??

Bringin It's picture

Re. fB acount deleted - Nice, but know that it never really goes away.

In fact, most likely, it will continue to get embelished behind the scenes [that is the scene visible to you] by others via inference.

Still, better to cut them off asap.

 

bonzo112358's picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csas5rAa0J0

A nice glass of warm milk, a little nap and a total frontal lobotomy will re-educate you.

Dr. No's picture

Your reservation is already made, regardless of a up arrow or down arrow.  besides, its the least you could do considering the patriotism Snowden showed.

btb2010's picture

PDF USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf      3,681KB

 

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prains's picture

you know its gone plum loco when you have to preface all your jokes now

Dr. Richard Head's picture

A "tongue-in-cheek" emoticon would be appropriate these days.

Zymurguy's picture

yeah, nice statement Mr. Z... truthful but not the whole truth so it's terribly misleading.

Facebook was CREATED with the government for the governments use.  They're not participating in a program... it IS the program.