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Okay, who is the usa ptb going to bomb this time, the revolutionaries, or the tyrant? My money is on them siding with the tyrant.
Fireworks in Turkey.....while in America, we buy turkeys for upcoming July 4th celebration
Fireworks to come to NSA spying - Operation Troll the NSA http://trollthensa.com/
Here's some background music to go with the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girnJH7tvpM
Bad to worse? I think it's absolutely beautiful.
Of course I'm not lying on the ground with my head split open by means of a billy club but you know what I mean.
Seems like Obullshit has delivered the message to Turkey PM: Stop oil for gold trade with iRan, or you will be Qdaffied.
Wonder why the "enlightened democracices of europe" have not blasted against Turkey for using chemical weapons against a defenceless population.
water cannons and tear gas? that's an outing in the park in the usa.
It appears Russia has remembered how to incite a revolution in another country as well. Payback is a bitch.
No way to delay
That trouble comin' every day.
Agree. Putin is no push-over. tit for tat, civil war in syria, civil war in turkey; pretty soon the Kurds will declare independence.
"It's beautiful, man. It's beautiful, man," Tom Cruise in Tap, before he got his brain blown out.
LOL! For Tom Cruise Taps reference. Hopefully Putin can help save the USA - cause the fat asses in the USA will keep watching TV and Hollywood's shit.
Truly amazing what Obama's friends will put up with to support his plans. I can't imagine how many wheelbarrows of freshly printed paper is going to his buddies daily.
Let me see. Hmmm. Putin vs Obummer, Obummer vs Putin, Putin vs Obummer.
If it be basketball, Obummer wins. If it be Int'l politics and manipulation, don't think I could bet against Putin.
guys, this revolt has its internal impetus. no need to look for foreign ignition. neither usa nor russia can be this almighty. think chicago 1968 riots.
I agree the secularists in Turkey are pissed off as they watch their country slip into the Caliphate. However, just as the occupy folks needed a few million from Soros to get the ball rolling, from what I hear the Turkish Military is supporting the protesters as payback, passing out gas masks etc. Let's hope a similar scenario happens here when the time is right.
Be that as it may, lets just say someone might be hypothetically really pissed off about the desecration of their Hagia Sophia, and that grudge has been smoldering for about ohh....... 800 years. And they might just slip the Turkish Military a few extra million to start some shit as payback.
phyuckyiu : " from what I hear the Turkish Military is supporting the protesters as payback, passing out gas masks etc."
it was a one-time event based on the decision of a few soldiers whose HQs happened to be close to the tear gas bombing scene. the military has not declared or implied such a general support.
as for the rest of your post, yes, i have a feeling that NGOs are supporting the rioters' case by a systematic work in twitter and facebook. they formed groups and post very intelligents stuff and whatever they post, they translate it to english for maximum footprint.
keep in mind, the revolution -if it ever happens in US- will not be televised. you will probably follow it over social media, such as twitter and facebook. i used to think that these services were useless crap but no, they seem to be essential to get well-informed and organized against state tyranny.
the NWO doesn't care if a country is run by tyrant or not, they care if he follows the orders and does not do any stupid shit. erdogan did not declare war on assad and erdogan keeps the oil-gold trade with iran. that's two big minuses in their book, methinks.
I was thinking the same thing. Most Americans watch this on the news and think, "wow, things are really getting bad over there!"
What they fail to realize is the absolute shitstorm that would ensue if protesters tried to organize a vocal and active public resistance in the U.S. Hint: water cannons and tear gas would be the least of their concerns.
If you watch the videos of the protests in Turkey, the cops take WAY more shit from the protesters than the roid raging special ops wannabe U.S. law enforcement McNinjas would take. If U.S. protesters tried anything even close to what is going on in Turkey right now, there would be blood in the streets - mostly the protesters blood. At least at first.
Also, dirty incident response drill nuclear militia lockdown homeland shooting evacuation explosion SWAT bomb facility attack crash looting DHS bird flu worm cyberattack Obama etc. etc.
right, they used to shoot guns in US, now they let their children play with it
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+10 I love a good protest, and I love beating djembes with exotic girls who don't wear bras, and I love when they get drunk and sit on my lap, but I love my gold even more than any of those.
that came to mind, too. also, erdogan's not declaring war on asad might be another reason. still, secular turkish people are REALLY fed up. that's the main engine of what's going on.
The sheep in the US have been fattened up by the likes of Mcdonalds, coke and budwieser to do anything about anything. They are just waiting to be slaughter
wrong approach all gathering in one place. split up into groups of 500. then take out some sensitive real estate. see you in gitmo
Bleh, I'm not eating that! Must be for pet food. Huge market, pet food.
Yeah funny that trollthensa....they are using a gmail account for the contact email. They are also using keywords geared towards terrorists when this system is meant to catch domestic political dissent.
They should be using words like:
2nd amendment
NRA
Constitution
Tea Party
Benjamin Franklin
American Revolution
Right to bear arms
Militia
Etc ..etc…
Uh-oh.....I guess anyone who has posteed here is screwed.
Obama and Harry Reid want to sign the Amnesty bill on July 4th. No shit. It is a FU to Americans. Hopefully it will die in the House.
I admire the Turkish people. They are fighting against Obam's islamist stooge Erdogan. Also buddies with scum RINOs McCain, Rubio and Lindsey Graham.
The Egyptian people are trying to fight against O's other islamist stooge Morsi in Egypt. Americans are just fat, stupid and spied on as they watch propaganda TV.
thanks, i hope that americans revolt, too before it's too late.
John Kerry promised the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt $400 million of U.S. Taxpayer money.
He also pledged $200 million to the Islamic rebels in Syria (who are backed by Hamas).
Menwhile, our .gov employs East German STASI tactics against us.
Hmmm...
They side with the tyrants in Saudi Arabia. Whoever serves their corporate interests the most gets bombed the least imo.
Whats Hmmmm about it??
Its very clear actually, there IS NO "war on terror", there is however a global war for resources and control of the distribution of those resources! Once you get your mind out of the CIA/NSA controlled propaganda machine from 9-11 and wake up to the reality of what is going on, it becomes VERY CLEAR!
$400 million to Eqypt = access to the Suez canal, nothing to do with the fucking "brotherhood"
$200 million to the "syrian rebels" = blockage of a Iranian/Pakistan pipeline for Nat Gas thru Iraq as well as a destruction of the relationship with Russia and Assad, for a sea port transport system for sea movement of nat gas and oil, nothing to do with islam!
I hope I dont have to explain the fucking the Stasi tactics!
Please don't, you managed to turn something as realively straight as a pipeline, into something more twisted than a pretzle. Stasi tactics would be outright torture.
what would arabs do with their oil? they would be forced to sell it anyway, this so called war for resources only makes this resources more expansive...
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...what has me a bit 'bothered', is something I have never seen in the US before: Significant movements of US Army personnel and gear on public roads. First on I-90, some weeks ago east of Seattle (a whole battery of Patriot missiles etc), and again last weekend in Bend, OR. Even my kids commented on this. WTF is going on?
The tyrant is an Islamist thug, so the US administration will side with him.
If the protesters really do want to keep Turkey secular, they should get some backing from the military. I hope they can get somewhere.
Erdogan is to Islam as Rev. John Hagee is to Christianity.... in other words, fake.
Well he is a politician ... that's a bit of a give-away.
I liked Selco's observations about politicians, the worst most vile, viscous corrupt and murderous people in bad times, always become the enriched landed politicians and also philanthropists 'big-men' in ensuing good times. That's what you get with 99.9% of all politicians on earth - they are always playing society, and will turn on 'the people' in an instant, whenever they think then can benefit, or survive, by doing so and can get away with it.
Erdogan is most likely a secret jew just like the so-called Father of Turkey, Ataturk and the Young Turks who carried out the Armenian Genocide that the Holocaust promoters of today suppress. The head of Atlantic Records years ago was the Jewish-Turkish Ahmat Erdogun which supports that Erdogan is a jewsih name:
"The Donmè ("convert" in Turkish), was a Hebrew heresy whose followers converted [?] to Islam in the 18th century. They were most heavily concentrated in Thessaloniki. According to the Great Hellenic Encyclopedia [Megali Elliniki Enkiklopethia]: "It is generally accepted that the Donmè secretly continue to adhere to the Hebrew religion and don't allow their kind to intermarry with the Muslims."
The disproportionate power and influence (in light of their number) that the Donmè had on both the Ottoman Empire and on the Young Turk movement has been the subject of a great deal of commentary by many observers and researchers. The eminent British historian, R. Seton Watson, in his book, The Rise of Nationality in the Balkans. London, 1917 (H Gennisi tou Ethnikismou sta Valkania), wrote the following: "The real brains behind the [Itihàt] movement were Jews or Islamic-Jews. The wealthy Donmè and Jews of Thessaloniki supported [the Young Turks] economically, and their fellow Jewish capitalists in Vienna and Berlin -- as well as in Budapest and possibly Paris and London -- supported them financially as well."
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/turkey/youngturks.htm
what a load of crap. ataturk has not been proven to be a convert jew and erdogan is the son of a peasant family from rize, who had nothing to do with jews or secret jews. mind you, ataturk was the one who closed down all mason lodges in turkey.
Evidence? Link?
sure, tell me what you need evidence for, and i'll nail it to this board.
the military has become the lapdog of the tyrant. no hope there.
e-recep said:
How does this lapdog status relate to the resignation of the heads of the Turkish armed forces two years ago. Did one cause the other, or were they just coincidental to other factors in play? Thanks.
the generals in prison are secular and devoted to ataturk and his reforms. they would hardly take orders from erdogan. he knew it. the police set them up with fake evidence and fake witnesses, and simply jailed them. the judges belong to erdogan, too. otherwise they would not accept all that fake evidence and bullshit.
the name of the setup is ergenekon. it's a fake story about plotting a coup de etats. some generals who were not convicted but still could not stand seeing their long-time colleagues in prison resigned. some did it to protest erdogan. some could not not stomach the situation any longer.
the generals remaining in the army seem to be loyal to erdogan so far. probably they don't care about ataturk and his reforms any longer.
Turkey is an enigma, on one hand they seem to be supportive of Iran, which I respect. On the other, they have not only served as an oasis for the al quaeda aligned terrorists, but they have been a key logistical partner in holing them up in iskenderun, and marshaling them into incirlik air base. Let's not forget the traitor chirs stevens lost his life in bengazi ( and other guys who probably didn't know better as well) because Stevens was meeting a TURKISH offical there to arrange transport of weapons and people to Syria.
So Erdogan of Turkey has been in some schitzophrenic manner trying to have his cake, and eat it to, to make a new empire. Apparently brutalizing some kids who were origianlly camped out in a park protesting was the spark that lit the fire.
NWO scheming often doesn't appear to make sense until later... chaos and destruction are useful forces to reshape future events... the human cost is meaningless... what matters is what they can use the event to accomplish later.
No Black Swan here 'cause Turkeys can't fly!
Seems to be just a coincidence, that riots escalate in Istanbul as Bashir al Assad is preparing to regain control of Aleppo. Aleppo is not al Kusair, which is close to Hisbollah land. Sheikh Nasrallah and his fighters know the infight, street row by row. But Aleppo is not in the backyard. Erdogan is supporting the rebels, he want's to get rid of the Kurds. Nasty game to be followed, will give guidelines in the MEA.
Hezbollah helps but Syria has a large hardcore army and when it gets rolling it will mow-down rebels wherever they go to reorganize. Assad has been preoccupied with covering his borders and other areas until now, but what Hezbollah brings is the needed mobility and initiative which can quickly change the balance and momentum, so that Assad can then bring more of his forces to bear. The result will accelerate, and it will be overwhelming, simply because now Assad's military is much more hardened and ready and able to act. At which point Hezbollah's contribution will become relatively less significant, and also less noticeable/visible.
I tend to agree, Element. That, and the recent confrimation from Putin that Russia was in Assad's court to stay. Delivery of those advanced weapons systems was the game changer. It was Obummer's F.U. moment from Putin.
Long ago, I posted these same sentiments. Anyone with even a slight grasp of how much Russia has invested in Syria, and how important the country is in the long run, should know they would not walk away from their only base outside the former Soviet Union. This is especailly true when you realize the strategic value of Tartus on the Mediterranean. Just look at the map.
US will bomb both, that is democratic.
As things get more tense at home for Gov and Fed... Must. Wag. Dog. Abroad.
If Joe Six Pack is kept in check (iToys, beer, sports, basic jobs, food stamps, FUD...) and we have all these news events/vectors cancel or drown each other out, we can the really important things done. Like we have in the past.
Now THERE'S a contented people for you! Their economy must be "recovering" just like ours is...happy times! LOL...
Erdogan will not fall. Too much $$$ is at risk. This is about pipelines from Russia and Kurdistan vs. pipelines from Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Just like the entire Syrian war. The CIA wants Gul back as their stooge, the Russians are quite happy having a friendlier regime on their border.
Care to wager how many CIA agents and provocateurs are in that crowd boys and girls?
well the CIA always manages to choose the wrong side or the wrong war...
That's what happens when you are born stupid.
The CIA is Truman's biggest mistake.
... and Truman was America's biggest mistake.
Okay, at least in the top five.
Clearly the US wants him in, clealry they want Assad gone.. Clearly the irregular drug addled jihadis who view syria as some sort of woodstock of butchery are getting liquidated ( al qusayer free, with 2750 killed, 1500 captured or wounded - Aleppo being cleansed now). Clearly Erdogan is feeling the pinch.
The question now is, given NATO, Israel, prince lard ass from Quatar ( who is stepping down lol ), and the Zombie from Saudi Arabia (who is now with Allah ) have went all in, what is next? We are ripe for a major escalation sadly thanks to the unbridled caprice, and meddling of OUR side.
Add in the fact that we can not invade Syria with Erdogan in power and the formula is there for a major escalation inside Turkey and probably Iraq in the weeks to come. The Kurds reaching a peace agreement (for now) with Erdogan really set the CIA back as they were counting on having an excuse for a resurgence of Turkish domestic military power over the civilian population.
We can't invade Syria, period. All we can do is send in the proxies. Our military is spent after a dozen years of this shit. On top of that, Russia is full-on backing Syria, and very publicly, too. Advanced Russina weaponry turns this thing upside down. Any planned Isreali or NATO "no-fly zone" over Syria now must be carefully re-examined.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-russia-sends-advanced-missiles-to-syria-signaling-commitment-to-assad-1.524515
It's getting real now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DblvhECdws0
talking heads - life during wartimeThis anin't no party, this ain't no disco, thai ain't no foolin' around.
+1 Analysis from Canada.
Obam put Morsi in Egypt and Erdogan in Turkey and the locals hate both of the, Assad is not a good guy but he is comapred to the rebel scum who are jihadis and US/Saudi/Is/Qatar stooges and murderers.
The big losers in Syria are innocent people who McCain wants to kill more of.
Erdogan has been in power since 2003.
In this case, it really is "Bush's fault".
Bingo. Bush thought by "aligning" with a more Islamist regime he would get more accomodation when he invaded unfriendly nations in the Middle East. Instead he inflamed the entire region and pushed many in the Arab street back towards Russia aka the 'old/new' Soviet Union. Check out this headline as almost if right on cue from Reuters:
Russia's Putin says U.S. supports opposition protestersBush/Cheney........the oil men. They, along with their merry band of neo-cons, should be hung for treason. The entire ME quagmire rest on their shoulders.
Then, we can hang Obummer for continuing their war-mongering and destruction, lies and deceit - the bankrupting of America, both fiscally and morally.
There going to bomb Putin?
Bomb Turkey = bombing Putin.
Are these muslin brotherhood freedom fighters or just regular ones. We only fund the hood ya know !
The dude in power is the one wants to shift back to a more Islamic state, away from the western culture.
Not that that give one any idea about who the fuck's side we're gonna line up with. And in any case who are we to even have any say in their business?
Fucking chaos
you can have an islamic state and still be a western stooge. See the recent billion in aid given on the sly to morsi of egypt, or the failed state of libya.
The western stooges like the US Stasi are islamists.
islamist is a meaningless NWO term... and the US stasi are anything but 'islamic' in any event... islam was the "emanuel goldstein" type farce/false flag that allowed them to create the US stasi system in plain view.
Well O Stasi is a Israe/Saudi stooge. They are allies.
hard to disagree with that.
You left out Afgha and Paka, and Saudia etal
Knukles, I think you are confusing the US foreign policy propaganda with the actual US foreign policy.
The propaganda says it's all about democracy and freedom, the reality is about resources and geopolitics.
Hence having "a man who is in line with our interests and has a firm hand on the till" is what really maters - his ideology is unimportant.
Troof....
I simply cannot tell fact from fiction any longer.
But then again, neither can they.
Or anyone else, it seems.
Oh, how far down the rabbit hole should we go, today?
It gets scary!
Especially when one figures out all reality is but an illusion of consciousness
Coming soon to a Wall Street near you.
Aristocracy versus the peasants.
Last time around, the " Let them eat cake " crowd didn't do so well.
don't want to be rude tho but Istanbul ain't the capital city of turkey ...that's Ankara
Every country in turmoil need a solid Ankara to the wind
(groan)
booo!!! ;)
Definitely not Constantinople.
http://vimeo.com/6746927
what are they so angry about? did they find out their gov't is archiving every piece of electronic data from every citizen?
So, what's with the smoke column in the park there? Just a campfire or what? I see it turned from black to grey smoke. Maybe they elected a new Turkey Pope?
And who's this Tim Pool guy?
I think he is the editor or lead reporter for Vice. I think.
edit :: I didn't down vote you, apparently someone is having a bad day and finds solice in down voting every post on here.
Ah OK, thanks. Not much info in the post here... just video.
I don't mind down votes... happens to the best, brightest and most mature. However, I did forget to put my "<--- I'm a poopy idiot" label next to the downvote button.
look's like a bonfire. . . and to prove that we are all brothers in this human experience, the Turkish men are doing what every other red-blooded male on Earth would do -- throwing fireworks into the fire and running away laughing.
+5 pin point accurancy right there. "This is going to be awesome"
Looked like they were blowing up police vehicles earlier. That could be what is burning. it was hard to see for certian do to the long range of the video feed.
May be a stupid question but what started this combatance? I've only read that basically it was over citizens feeling the government didn't have their best interests at hear?
If that's the case, 'Murrica we rolled along way from our tree.
I believe that deteriorating economic conditions are usually a precursor to any riot, regardless of the cause. Stealth inflation can lead people to resort to violence (see: uprisings in Egypt - started because people couldn't afford bread). In other words, I believe Central Banks play a role in every riot/uprising you've seen in the last few years, including this one.
Stated reasons by those protesting:
#1 Crude Islamification of society / APK disliking cultural Ataturk heritage so tend to "accidentally" destroy it when rezoning / building
#2 Neoliberal economic policies (privatization) mixed in with some good old fashioned nepotism (all the goodies going to relatives / friends of APK)
#3 Usual information / MSM control bullshit, but run by people stuck in thinking only in terms of TV, not Social Media ("Social media is the devil" type inability to grokk it) which means the APK has been comedy gold at mismanaging / handling the new data war [CNN penguins. Hmm, the more I think about that one, the more it might actually be genius, although I had assumed the USA was pro-APK at this point]
#4 Split between West facing urbanites vrs Rural traditionals (again, a classic one, just the gaps between the two are far larger than most 1st world countries)
#5 Overly harsh repression from the get go leading to spreading of sympathy for protestors accelerating; started off youth, now older labor movements etc joining
#6 Historical use of judiciary to jail reporters / dissidents in blatant corrupt manner (Turkey has the worst jailing rate for reporters in the region); they nabbed 73 lawyers today, which any French King will tell you is the wrong move
#7 Perception (perhaps unwise) that although purged, the military would step in if things got out of hand and 'restore Democracy' a la Ataturk; military so far has been completely uninvolved, at least physically
#8 It's 2013, End of the World is on like Donkey Kong (but more likely, worsening economy & rising unemployment)
There's plenty more. What *is* interesting is that (classic image I'm having trouble finding) you can find what makes it really potent in a single picture - three people, one making the peace sign [tech urbanites], the other the clenched fist [Labor / Resistance] and one making the wolf sign [hard core nationalists]. So basically, you can ally these three ideologies against radical / corrupt Islam fairly easily. This has not gone un-noticed. Tony Blair speech, 10th June, 2013[1]
As revolutions go, if you wanted to plan one, I'd give this an organic score of 7.7 / 10 since the precursors are so easy to forge from your base materials. Goad APK into being more APK than is wise, smother them in butter at Davos so they think they're creamy good and secure, then watch it explode. I don't know the play book, and I'm no expert on Turkey, I'm just going on what Turkish students etc are saying. I could be totally incorrect.
[1] If you can't see Blair's angle on this post then do ask.
The military role is important because it's what stymies the police from opening up with weapons on protesters, as that could easily precipitate the military to take over the streets and supplant Govt's power or call it into question. Politics, policy and police all have the same derivation because they're inseparable to the unity of political power. And the military would really screw the Govt over ... if the police go too far.
The protesters think the police have gone too far.
Okay, now name one country other than North Korea or Somalia where the same criteria don't apply...
You have not gotten to the heart of the matter.
And this is about as organic as a BigMac with fries and a large diet coke. More like "impatiently waiting to be co-opted" by powerful, entrenched interest groups. Like every other revolution in history. There is the revolution, and then there is re-revolution.
"Stated reasons by those protesting."
I don't have the intel to guess who's really in play, although if you read my link you might find some interest in it, given Mr. Blair's record on foreign relations. That's where my extra 3.3 is coming from, and I did mention Davos (which is where PKK + arms to Syria rebels was openly discussed by the Turkish ministers).
Judging purely by the action, it is organic - the police have been extremely gung-ho since day #1. However there's probably an info war being raged about getting social media out. (Since, you know, ME states often employ EU security companies to track / shut off communications all the damn time and the AKP won't be any different). Also, you fail to note that different cultures and different Nationalities react very differently to these conditions - another notable feature of the protests was an early and highly unexpected alliance between the three main football teams' supporters; they usually spend their time kicking the shit out of each other. I've already mentioned the unity between Peace - Left Resistance - Nationalist causes (which simply cannot occur in Greece, for instance, due to their history).
If you want to learn more, there's vast numbers of white papers from the EU all about how to police / manage / direct / kettle / steer / enrage mass numbers of crowds that are easily obtainable with some Google-Foo (And some very high tech crowd modelling software being sold if you also know which market to ask) which I do not doubt Turkey's police have been well trained in.
If you go find the previous thread, you'll see my comment about Branding - the education level of the AKP (and bronze level staff in particular) may simply too low to run it well enough. I've already stated that AKP is using the G8 / 20 playbook visa vie "anarchists with petrol bombs"; I can't prove any training they may-or-may not have had with professional policing trainers for the other stuff - but given the tech level of their paramilitary police, their spend is certainly equatable to most smaller EU states.
That was a serious response since you were being nice: did you like your SF fanfiction I wrote for you?
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The significance of this development is greater than most people realize, and certainly something I'd have never known but for reading the Asia Times article linked below. Turkish football provides a clear etymologic illustration of the source of the word fan from fanatic. Fans of these three teams quite literally kick the shit out of each other (a result of the relaxation of bowel muscles upon death), that is, unless they stab the shit out of each other.
That these three football fan groups are now working together is a stunning development.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-100613.html
What are these people pissed about? Their central bankers must not be pumping up their 401k statements.
Viva la revolution!
Lotsa oil and nat gas traverse Turkey. Some nice delightful upheaval would choke it off.
in more and more places around the world, we are seeing people loudly exclaim that they've had enough of draconian governments. and it's about fucking time!!
if only the US MSM would have had as much empathy for american protesters as they claim to have for those overseas, then maybe something positive would have come from the protests we saw here.
there is no US MSM.........its all CIA all the time........FciaOX.....MSciaNBC.......CiaNBC....etc, etc,etc....
" they've had enough of draconian governments. "
and that it's time for the outright medieval shit to get started? Cause that's all I see them asking for. Moar state power, moar handouts and entitlements and redistribution, moar demoncratic socialism. Which always leads to exactly the same place.
As opposed to what? The jack-booted facists leadership committed to serving the Central Bankers most of the world lives under now?
A tree grows in Istanbul.
Now if Turkey had started bombing Syria like they were told too, none of this would have happened.
When will the sheeple here man up????????????
Rise up oh sheeple.......... and build a bonfire.
Never
When the "Just in time" grocery store deliveries aren't.
We gots ourselves a serial junker on the loose. Paul Gill NSA boy, is that you?
i think this type of media coverage is misleading. im not turkish nor am i in turkey, but my understanding is that the people protesting are not erdogan supporters anyway. which is 25-30% of the country. but the vast majority ... in this case silent majority, has consistently voted him into power and still support him. the more observant muslim part of the population. i dont think this is a turkish spring or anything of the sort. just a expression of no confidence by people who dont like the ruling islamist party.
Basicly the minority that's fighting for their freedom... Kinda what Zerohedge is all about.
Does Turkey have a little red thing that pops up when it's done?
Top ten comment of the year
I've written longer stuff that's more serious. Today for that matter.
tl;dr
Moar pop up timers for da ME, preferably between Jordan and Egypt.
No, but they do eat "America" on Thanksgiving over there.
!!!! LOL
Only when it is sufficiently basted first --- and I hear that the blood of innocent protestors works especially well in that regard.
Burn Baby Burn!!!!!
did the dude in the last video say he was kurdish? what is it with the kurds? this small tribe seems to exert great influence and yet get stomped on at the same time....
They kind of started the whole civilization thing. No biggie.
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/06/08/the-forbidden-legacy-of-a-fallen-r...
That is one nicely compiled article. Thanks
Very nice, indeed. I'll have to go back and read it all later.
The word ‘Eden’ is translated by Hebrew scholars as meaning ‘pleasure’ or ‘delight’, a reference to the fact that God created the garden for the pleasure of mankind. This is not, however, its true origin. The word ‘Eden’ is in fact Akkadian – the proto-Hebrew, or Semitic, language introduced to Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) by the people of Agade, or Akkad, a race that seized control of the ancient kingdom of Sumer during the second half of the third millennium BC. In their language the word ‘Eden’, or edin, meant a ‘steppe’ or ‘terrace’, as in a raised agricultural terrace.
from the article
and you believe that shit?
MJA! Mad Junker Alert!
noticed that myself. He's the guy no one would let play in their sandbox when he was growing up.
We have illegal fireworks displays once a month here. It's fun.
Game of Thrones 2.1
The cops are the ones wearing the white helmets.
Wrong headline - I would say "Things In Turkey Going From Very, Very Bad To Much, Much Better"
Turkey shoot? *
*facepalm
the horror, the horror...
Obama for the president of Turkey.
In Bosnia, protests over bureaucracy transcend ethnic divisions. There is a bit of hope.
Check out the photo of the Turkish cop in flames - does the old heart good. Next I want to see a Turkish "riot control vehicle' going crispy!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/turkish-youth-insurgency-poses-challenge-to-erdogan-a-904984.html
Those are via the State Sponsored "Anarchist" undercover police, they're total bollocks.
In the real world, science has spent billions of dollars making sure those types of paramilitary vehicles are totally immune to the heat of petrol, and even have some really nifty self-extinguishing foam dispensers. The videos you see of one "being on fire" is total theater. South Africa (G4S) has even managed to make bullet-proof foam mixtures that can be automatically deployed.
This is Hollywood level bullshit meant to sell an image, nothing more.
Just imagine if this started happening in Jordan right about now... That would make things interesting to say the least.
USA will side with the Islamist mercenaries, as we have everywhere else on eart. USA will militate against christian populaces, wherever they find them in that region - Turkey's borders were open to syrian christians fleeing death and destruction; ditto for jordan. therefore the thugocracy now in control of the DC-USA will sabotage those "friends". DC-USA drove christians [the surviving ones] out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and working on Pakistan and of course Egypt. few refuges remain for them - and I"ve noticed there is nary a finger being lifted in DC-USA to allow refugees to come here.
Just two examples: the U.S. sided with Bosnian Muslims against the Christian Serbs, and strongly suppored the communists in Rhodesia and South Africa against the white Christians. Here in the country formerly known as America, White, Christian immigration is now severely restricted compared to third world immigration. Muslim history is officially celebrated and thousands of mosques get special protection, while Christianity is still on the run. The U.S. government is clearly the enemy of original Americans.
I hope the Greeks and Cypriots are watching. Hopefully they will pick up a few pointers before it's too late.
MOAR RIOTS!!!
do not disrespect the mighty erdogan.
the giant of the bosphorus.
see how he straddles the east and the west.
with his friend king bibi of israel
watch him slay the homeless scum
putin and assad 2 evil men that kill for power.
nobody shall take away the turks democracy.
god help the terrorists erdogan will win this
minor riot.
with the weapons from israel,the usa and uk plc we will crush all syrian trouble makers and the kurd.
the rich people and erdogans family demand high class shopping malls for democracy sake.
That turkey is about done! Stick a Fork in it!.
I wonder how long the Popo will be able to beat people b/f the backlash is directly against them and their families - I mean, you can't beat someone's kid 1/2 to death and then expect them to walk passively by your home and family?
FWIW Dept:
#1) PM Erdogan v. Deputy PM Arenic & President Gul [Gulenist?] #2) Population Turkey 75 million #3) AKP Majority Political Party v. PKK Minority [Gulen] Political Party #4) Erdogan has a viseral hatred towards Israel #5) The Gulen (Movement) Party are strong advocates of police and security agencies... hence, President Gul is seen as a Gulenist while Erdogan is not. #6) Gulen resides in the U.S. {under political asylum and is near death living in the Berkshires}. Note: President Gul via the 'Gulen Movement' is making an epic move under the guise of U.s. Foreign Policy and the recent Bilderberg thingy to bring about an in-house political coup within the (AKP) Republican People's Party to bring President Gul to the fore. Exiled Mr. Gulen[?] and his movement has Washington's support to bring about 'regime change' in Turkey. #7) *** President Gul is a prote'je of the 'Saudi Royal Family'... where PM Erdogan shares the Qatari Emir passion for Egypt's ' Morsis', Muslim Brotherhood' [btw...just itching for a fight?] in Syria! Note#2: "Qatari leaders expected to step down- sources" google?... /06/10/uk-transition-qadar/ bad link :( #8) the last thing Qatar wants, is to have their pars nat-gas fields profits diminished because of a Iran[S. Pars Field?]/ Iraq/ Syria| Lebanese? [final?] transit to Port Tartus [?Turkey?] via Gasprov (Russia) to Western Europe! #8) the Saudi's are going along with Qatari against their wishes?... but, for only a gentle nudge from Uncle Samuel!?
that about sums it up... Ref: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-050613.html and, "Turkey in Turmoil: "Et tu, Gul?"' http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-070613.html @ www.atimes.com/
,... and if your on the site don't forget to give "The roving Eye" @Pepe Escobar a friendly read :-))
jmo & Thankyou Tyler
Long re-revolutions!
Indeed!
Ref: Ataturk's,... 'Sevres Syndrome' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataturk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A8vres_syndrome
Moar better Turkey giblets, how tastely! deliciomus destruction and let the gamers begin! Too bad Mericans are too stupid, fat and lazy to give a fruck about what is happening! Wee the Pee-ple - oh joy - is Dancing with the Stars on tonight? Merca the land of zombies and deadheads, home of the scared....ah what's the use, we are brainwashed and bamboozled by the oligarchy now, see ya when the crapstorm hits us square between the eyes~oh the humanity!
I feel like that avatar of the guy banging the keyboard till he has bloody knukles, then his head until his eyes fling out...I feel so useless! Damn I hope us Mericans wake up someday, never hurts to have a nightmare does it?
Moar giblets? please! You got it brother,...
"Turkey's Political Asylum Muslim Guru Fetullah Gullen" Part II (read more article) by F. William Engdahl [5/25/2013] http://www.voltairenet.org/article178623.html "Boston and the CIA 'Snafu': The grey eminence behind Turkey's Erdogan and the AKP"
moar foody for thought-- the Boston Marathon Bomber's uncle, "Ruslan Tsarnaev was[is] married to Graham E. Fuller ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Fuller )!?
there's moar leftover's than you can imagine from reading a turkey's entrails... "The Gulen Movement @ 'The Global Intelligence File'" --- "The Global Intelligence Files- FWD: RE gulen movement" [2/27/12/ http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/146428_fwd-re-gulen-movement-.html
Note: Important... Eurasia belongs to the USSA?!?!?,... not Russia, China, or Europe...
??? thankyou Tyler jmo ;-0
So what has Syracuse to do with Istanbul anyway? http://shutupnsing.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/one-nation-under-carlyle/