Ron Paul Warns Of Electronic Surveillance Back In... 1984

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

There are three words that come to mind when I think of Ron Paul; principles, credibility and consistency.  Not only is the video below great because we get to see Dr. Paul speak on the Congressional floor thirty years younger, but also because he was adamantly criticizing civil liberties threats in the context of a Republican President, Ronald Reagan.  He warned us about what the NSA and other intelligence agencies are currently doing well before the internet became widespread.  The man is a statesman of the highest order.  Definitely take the time to watch this short video.


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samsara's picture

Standing Clapping for;

The Greatest President America Never Had

QE49er's picture

"Intelligence Officials talk about 'Disappearing' NSA Leaker"

This was the first thing that came into my mind:

infinity8's picture

Exactly why none of the recent revelations are news. the .gov always has the leading edge in technology and always has. And if they "can", of course they will. From the Snowden quote post:

#15 "I don't want to live in a world where there's no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity."

The best and brightest are identified and made offers they can't refuse. Been going on for a very long time - TPTB have always been one step ahead re technology and that's why it appears in MSM from TV to books to movies before it's "real" for everyonr else. AV, CG, 3D . . . they have it first.

Youri Carma's picture

NSA’s huge new $2bn spy center will be used to snoop on ordinary Americans, warn experts 4 April 2012

Is the NSA building a $800million data center to spy on Americans? Utah desert facility code-named Bumblehive ‘will monitor emails of U.S. citizens’ 17 April 2013

- National Security Agency insists the site will operate according to laws that limit spying on U.S. citizens
- But civil liberties campaigners warn that the government is seeking to expand these powers
- The U.S. government operated a secret warrantless wiretapping programme between 2001 and 2005

Herkimer Jerkimer's picture





Little more for those interested…


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“We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes Live September 2013



Jim in MN's picture

OT but....Greece downgraded to Emerging Market status by MSCI

What a trippy time we live in....

fonzannoon's picture

and Turkey was recently upgraded to Investment grade.

The Swedish Chef's picture

The gentleman from Texas... Never has that phrase been more correctly used. 

Atomizer's picture

Eric Holder - We must BRAINWASH People About Guns!


Logically, when peasants can only throw stones instead of lead. Central planning Banking objectives becomes easier.

spooz's picture

If Paul had gotten the Republican nomination, I know a lot of progressives that would have voted R instead of Green (other than the Obots who still think there is a lesser of two evils).  Pretty sure he would have beaten Obama.  Shame the duopoly has such a lock on status quo.

howenlink's picture

Judging from the video, Ron Paul is about 20 years ahead of his time.  Might be good news for the human race two decades hence.

Diablo's picture

NSA was caught spying on citizens back in 1975. they were barred from doing so, under FISA, in 1978.

of course, after 2001, the neo-cons took advantage of the situation and passed the "patriot" act, that the NSA got their full powers back.

but of course, idiots ignore the facts and blame it on the brown skinned guy today with the foreign name.


dognamedabu's picture

Partisan rhetoric. If the brown guy with the foreign sounding name wanted to stop it he would have. 




Diablo's picture

more partisan rhetoric back'atcha: how many members of congress passed the patriot act? how many renewed it in 2011?  its infantile to think the president has all these unlimited powers...its congress that has all the powers to pass bills/laws.

example of 'if he really wanted to, he wouldve done it'....obama wants to close gitmo...wanna know why he cant? take a look at the budget congress passed and how taxpayer money can/cannot be used in relation to prisoners in gitmo.


FleaMarketPete's picture

"its infantile to think the president has all these unlimited powers" you've obviously been in a coma since 2008. President shit for brains violates the constitution to HIS advantage. Not how you wish he would.

Diablo's picture

'violates the constitution'??? ok, this should be entertaining. name ONE instance where its been PROVEN that the president violated the constitution.


Diablo's picture

now go look up "recess appointments" and "executive orders".

you imbecile.



Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Hey numb nuts, the constitution is written in plain English that an 8th grader can understand. I can fucking read, and I can think, and that fucker hasnt done a single thing consistent with the constitution ever since he took office.

mydogisprettierthanyou's picture

show me one vote where he voted against the constitution. statist.

MeBizarro's picture

He certainly could have opposed it in the least and if anything he has double-downed on it.  I agree thought about your comment that even if Obama had opposed any plans it wasn't up to him.  It amazes me on here who woefully ignorant a fair amount of posters on here are about even the most basic powers and operations of the US gov't and its various branches.  Executive branch has more power than the founders ever possibly conceived of but it still doesn't control the purse and even their power through executive orders is still somewhat limited.  

dog breath's picture

Why do people blame only the neo-cons?  Senate voted 50-R & 48-D for.  House was 211-R & 145-D & 1-I for.  Funny how only the conservatives get the blame.


Yet Obama can stop this but actually tells the public why it is necessary.  Didn't he study constituional law?  Didn't the President take an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution?  Didn't Congress take an oath to support and defend the constitution?

Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here


rustymason's picture

Well, neocons are not American conservatives at all, they are "former" Trotskyites, but I agree with your basic point.

FeralSerf's picture

A better question, from the comments here so far, is "why hasn't anyone here blamed Reagan and Bush 41 for the rapid decline during that 12 years of fascism towards our present totalitarian oligarchy?

I don't blame ONLY the neo-cons. I blame the neo-libs just as much as well. Both political blocs have supported and voted for the removal of the freedoms we once took, unfortunately, for granted.

Personally, I began voting libertarian in 1968 when I realized that it wasn't communism that we were fighting in Vietnam. It was the freedom of the American people that "our" government was battling. The Vietnamese were just doing their best to get rid of their own tyrants. The "Domino Theory" was just another one of the government's invalid conspiracy theories.

I voted for Ron Paul in 2000. Everyone said I was stupid and I was "throwing my vote away and he was just a kook that didn't have a chance".

I still believe if he had been elected, we likely would not even know the meaning of 9-11 except as a phone number.

One And Only's picture

Ron Paul has commonsense thus why he wasn't elected President.

If Ron Paul had the oratory skills of Hitler or Obama he would have been a shoe in.

q99x2's picture

I watched Paul and Woolsey on Morgan. He did pretty good there too.

What ever is going on against the tyranny must be being backed by some powerful forces now. Way too many things one after the other against Washington. Not that it wasn't all overdue but the consistent hammering indicates more than the common citizen wants and needs things to change. My suspicion is that it is the tech corporations that are part of the problem that are actually up in arms against the CIA and the old dying off oligarchs.

There is still time for transition to a new system without the old banksters and oil primates in control. They are dying off and their descendants did not survive world wars. They are susceptable to change in face of the alternative.

Woolsey was only able to use flat arguements that were based in an old belief system as backing for the lies he told on Peirs Morgan.

I had to laugh my ass off when I heard Peirs say how he didn't want the NSA to see into his personal records. And I had just watched Keiser 455 before where Stacey talked about how it was Morgan who personally tapped her phone.

Crazy shit.

RyeWhiskey's picture

Ron Paul would be a great president. Too bad we missed our chance...

Centuries later people may recall. Price.... price will differ.

Jim in MN's picture

Ya know, the thing is, if there was less corruption there would be more legitimate authority for the state to use as a buffer for their surveillance.

So, if you know anyone who gets upset at the rage over spying, just tell them to blame the Wall Street/DC Axis of Corruption for delegitimizing authority and undermining the public's perception of the rule of law.

FleaMarketPete's picture

"principles, credibility and consistency"......Amen.


Too bad we prefer "douchbag, liar, and criminal".


Oh well, death of white culture.....

pragmatic hobo's picture

what I don't get is, ... apparently the US government can hear everything, see everything, they have supercomputers and mountain of data at their disposal, yet they couldn’t stop Boston marathon bombing carried out by couple guys who left trails everywhere and was supposedly even warned about by the Russian government.

FleaMarketPete's picture

Because they are focused more on the teaparty and swiss bank accounts?  Americans supported the patriot act thinking that it would be used against terrorists, not all Americans.  Hence the outrage.

lakecity55's picture

No, because the Deep State set up Boston.

prains's picture

that's funny, you just answered your own question

css1971's picture

What makes you think the purpose of all this stuff is to prevent terrorist attacks on the public?


It fascinates me that people still look at the words and not the actions.

DaylightWastingTime's picture

never wore a mask at a protest. the black bloc disgusted me. anarchy is a cure to vaccines it won't take. this is no longer a matter of governments, we could wish ourselves that spoiled. this is the end of accountability. corporations are the new triumverate, wealthfare, warfare and welfare. to none of those is a vote cast. it is all conscription. you may be the enlisted. but what recourse do you have? government in its most weakened state aimed to serve the people, now in its strongest state it protects us from what could easily be thought as the implications of its service. this is era of implied consent, manifest in the credit you are granted to be an effective member of society, but what will you buy that won't own you? what is the alternative? the end of incandecent prosperity we all flock to like moths?if your wealthy but not rich you are scared. you are the next target. america is done as an amalgumation of well minded creators, sorry we have lost bid to a formidable slavery, a vulgar necessity, lint in the change purse of wealth makers, only inflation will be the tailor of our chains. could you hope for a key made of gold? and even if you were so well prepared could you be assusred it would unbind you? this is is where risk is leveraged against oblivion. if you don't buy it then the ritual of transaction is dead. and then no teeth can chew your way to freedom

lolmao500's picture

A good article that ZH should post...

What if foreign press reported about the US the same way they do about Syria or Turkey??

More truth in that article than all the MSM combined in a decade.

giggler123's picture

OMG they found me, I suppose I should buy another Ice cream with my own photo id next time...

Fire Angel's picture

I wrote in Ron Paul for president in the last election, and I still can't find out how many agreed with me. Isn't there an online petition format with the US government that allows concerned to state their case? I'm really wondering how many people actually voted for RP. 

Here's an interesting link:

fledermaus's picture

I voted for him via write in in FL in 2008 Elections.  I wanted to see post election if my vote was in fact, counted.  In the intervening years I've kept checking.  It was not counted. 

The reason, I'm told via the election committee rules etc... is that if you don't get on the ballot, your write in for a candidate, who is not on the ballot, will not be counted.  Not all states do it this way but a majority of states do.  I did campaign and donate to the Ron Paul campaign as well as circulate the issue cards and put up lawn signs all over my county.  I wanted to write him in, after he did not make the ballot in FL, but knew that would be lost and not counted at all- so I voted for that constitutionalist candidate that most Ron Paul supporters acknowledged was the closest thing to voting for Ron Paul.

What has ALWAYS enraged me was the argument why vote for X if they can't win? 

As if the only reason to vote isn't for the issue(s)'s to win. 

I get now why pure democracy isn't a great thing, voting to win, majority tyranny, etc...  brings us to where we are now.  NO dissenting voice, outside the status quo can get big enough to influence the status quo.  That is why zero hedge and education about these issues and free an open discussion / freedom of speech is so important.  the mind set and mores need to be changed in the populous.  Notice how Dr. Paul only has hope for the youth movement in relation to the Liberty movement.  The status quo is so ingrained by a certain age that it's a lost cause to even try to move it.

FeralSerf's picture

Why vote for X if they can't win? Because you want to be on the "Winning Team", dontcha?

The Russians were always on the "Winning Team" with their "vote" for Stalin, just like the North Koreans are in their "democracy" when they "voted" for Kim.

Stalin said the vote wasn't so important. It was the COUNTING of the vote that was.

El_Puerco's picture

RON PAUL!...Hey!...Where are you?!...



22winmag's picture

Amazing look back 30 years ago. Ina ddition, several movies from the 1980s make great points about terror, surviellance, and the government's use and misuse of both of them.

Aegelis's picture

I used to call him "Crazy Uncle Ron" and I wish that I were right, but it turns out the opposite is true...he's sane, the rest of all of the government is crazy. 

sunnyside's picture

What is even scarier is when Alex Jones starts turning up correct about issues.

blindman's picture

Enemy of the State 1998 - All about the NSA - Said Beautifully
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buckethead's picture

I'm always late to the party, but I'll chime in nevertheless.

Ron Paul is a pretty awesome human. Nearly a modern day prophet. Not so much in religious terms, but in much more practical terms.

As with most prophets, he has been branded a heretic. That, friends... Is where the Ron Paul Story ends, at least for his part.

There will be no "Great Man" who will save us from the inevitable tyranny which knocks at out doors, even now.

Someone's knocking... You gonna answer the door, or what?

goldenbuddha454's picture

A Quiz:  So how did we get to where we are today?  A)  The people chose security over freedom at any cost  B)  The people chose security over freedom at any cost C)  The people chose security over freedom at any cost  D) All of the above