"You Have Over-Stepped Your Boundaries, Sir"

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Submitted by Mark J. Grant, author of Out of the Box,

Perhaps you have noted in your life, as I have in mine, that denial is often the preface to justification.
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
                        -Benjamin Franklin
A government, any government, the American government, can justify its actions based upon national security. It is an often used tactic that is supposed to explain and rationalize the actions of those in power. It is not a Republican tactic or a Democrat tactic rather it is a tactic used by politicians who wish to control and contain its citizens where retention of power is a higher authority than individual rights. History has shown that only in times of extreme national duress, such as war, that is this a justifiable argument.
“As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.”
                          -James Madison
It is not often that my commentary concerns itself with the Founding Fathers of our country. I am afraid that most days I am concerned with the more mundane existence of markets and preservation of capital and even of making the occasional dollar when it can be done. I also generally, except as it defines the markets, do not enter into the fray of the right or wrong, the moral justification, of the actions of governments. This is quite a dangerous space where motivations and agendas can and should be called into question.
Having said this then I will state that I have no political agenda and that my sole motivation is what I consider fundamental to the country which is the individual rights ascribed to the people in the formation of America. One document is the Constitution and one is the Bill of Rights which protects the citizens from the intrusion of the government. This is the bedrock of America. This is the terra firma, the firm ground, of the United States.
“Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.”
                        -Thomas Jefferson
For the citizens of our country there is no justification, no national security assertion, that will dissuade us from the premise that our current government, in listening to every phone call and reading every transmission on the internet, is violating the fundamental Constitutional rights of American citizens. If you consider Wall Street; every strategy discussed, every potential business transaction written in an email has now been read by our government and the information could be released with great harm resulting to the involved parties. An order given by any institution on the phone or in an Bloomberg IB could be shared with people that could use the information for their own benefit. The potential impact on the financial industry has quite grave consequences!
As Americans we should say, “You have overstepped your boundaries Sir.” Citizens should stand and state, “No one has given you the authority to spy upon me and my fellow Americans and that you are violating the Constitution in this exercise and it should cease immediately.” It should be said to a Democrat. It should be said to a Republican. We should say this to any man that has undertaken to pervert the rights that we have ascribed to ourselves in the formation of our government.
This is where we should stand and we should make our voices heard to the best of our abilities.
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
           -Thomas Jefferson

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Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:48 | 3646530 screw face
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long ago........in a universe fare fare away..

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:50 | 3646541 The Gooch
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FUCK YOU, Uncle Janet!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:59 | 3646571 The Juggernaut
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The Founding Fathers took steps in the right direction but there is still more steps to go.  The Founders knew about inalienable rights but they still wanted power so they took the responsible for these rights.  The People delegate the responsibility of inalienable rights by voting.


The future will be self-representation.  No voting and it would take a lot to delegate your responsibility of your inalienable rights.  When the responsibility is delegated to someone else Liberty is lost.


Inalienable rights must and always coincide with inalienable responsibility.  Power will then be completely in the hands of The People.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:11 | 3646635 Richard Chesler
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Is that before or after picking up the food stamps?


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:20 | 3646667 Supernova Born
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Miranda 2013 (PRISM edition):

(The opening screen on every/any digital device anywhere for the rest of your life).

1. You had the right to eternally remain utterly verbally, telephonically, digitally and gesticularly (esp. Italy) silent while in the presence of your family, friends, employer and society, less physical person to person contact outside the range of anyone carrying a cellphone, laptop, tablet, Google glasses, nano drone insect surveillance device (whether owned by any government, corporate or private entity or within range of anyone else's nano drone insect surveillance device by whomever owned);
2. Anything you say/said/typed/implied by emoticons/gesticulated/or demonstrated/implied with facial expressions or any sounds at any point in your life or say can and will be used against you in a court of law or before any .gov subcontract court;
3. You have a right to have an "attorney" whether human or handheld digital legal assistant (with forensic computer science capability disabled) available before and during the questioning; and
4. You have the right, if you cannot afford the services of an attorney/rental digital legal assistant, to have an appointed digital legal assistant (manufactured within the last 10 years), at public expense and without cost to you, to represent you before and during the reading/viewing of your digital pre-confession to any and all crimes you have committed.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:43 | 3646796 CH1
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Stop  Obeying  Them

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:46 | 3647133 prains
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Stop Helping Or Obeying Them

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:14 | 3646650 floyd084
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Yeh I tried explaining that with rights come repsonsibilites, this was after the whole newtown thing and the 2nd ammendment, people told me to fuck off.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:28 | 3646655 Supernova Born
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Smells like infringement.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:12 | 3647259 JimBowie1958
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Yeah, because those who obey the law should always be punished for the actions of criminals and wackos.

Those who obey the law ARE being responsible, bubba.

Maybe you should take a course on constitutional law and the second amendment.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:24 | 3646661 IamtheREALmario
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Very true. The questiona I ask you:

1. Do you think that the human race as it currently stands is capable of taking that responsibility.

2. If the human race is currently not ready then do you believe that if they were taught by their parents and schools the fundamentals of self responsibility instead of how to be good little takers of orders then they would be ready?

My personal belief is that thanks to the workings of government in the dictating to people how they are (cough) educated and the rules they must live under (or else face the loss of freedom by imprisonment), people in general have a great deal of difficulty establishing an environment for themselves where they can take responsibility ... rather than take orders.

What would the psychopathic "so called" leaders (the architects of the dialectic and bane of our existence {not the gifts to us that they believe they are}) do if they could not force others to do their will?... and this includes the good little slaves at the NSA, FBI, CIA, the militaries, IRS, in corporate America, doing the will of the head banker? Obviously they are currently a lost cause and it would take generations to train people to not aspire to psychopathy ... as we are now trained.

But is that the real answer? I do not know. Hegel said (not exactly, I am paraphrasing), in his discussion of the dialectic, that neither Yin nor Yang can "win" (because they are complimentary and one cannot exist without the other) and to get past the dialectic a new paradigm must be formed. The question is "what is that paradigm?".

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 16:41 | 3647625 espirit
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The answer is quite simple grasshopper, "Work or you don't eat."

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 04:54 | 3649359 StychoKiller
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Get a copy of "Obedience to Authority", by Dr. Stanley Milgram.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:22 | 3646681 WarriorClass
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No, the people reserved for themselves their inalienable rights, as listed in the Bill of Rights.  The Federal Government was only granted very specific enumerated rights in the Constitution, which they have continually violated, voiding their governing authority by breach of contract.  We do not have a legitimate government, but a despotic regime that must be removed.  The people have previously shirked their responsibility in failing to remove the regime, thinking they can vote their way to freedom despite the rigged Diebold voting machines and obvious fraud in the party primaries and general elections.  This is changing as people are waking up to the fact that they alone are responsible for their freedom and their failure to enforce it always results in their slavery.

This is coming to a head, very soon.  

Americans have purchased so many firearms that many manufacturers of military pattern semi-automatic rifles are back ordered for a year or more, and ammunition has doubled in price, when you can find it, and there are now at least 100 million gun owners in the US. DHS has purchased over 2 billion rounds of ammunition and "assault rifles" for personal protection. America is preparing for a civil war, and to deny it is whistling past the graveyard of history.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:14 | 3647269 JimBowie1958
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The Federal Government was only granted very specific enumerated rights in the Constitution,..

+1 for a great post, but to point out a common misperception here: the Constitution does not grant rights. It only enumerates them. Those rights exists before, during and after any constitution and even if said constitution denies those rights.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:28 | 3646703 screw face
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...with all due respect the founding fathers were slave owners, who grew hemp....

i took the red pill....

....what say you

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:13 | 3646940 buyingsterling
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Presently we're ruled by pot-bellied pedophiles and butch dyke sadists. I'll take the founders, fuck you very much.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:59 | 3647192 screw face
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Starve the beast then... no need to attack...

as for me......i have no iron in the financial fires....

it wood be nice to go back to those times, however...well the hemp part any way..

need i say moar!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:16 | 3647273 JimBowie1958
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Not all the FF were slave owners, bubba.

You need to take a history course on the Ameerican Revolution...or at least a good one.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 18:25 | 3648059 HedgeHammer
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Unalienable rights are those rights given or endowed to us by our creator and are not ours to give away nor can they be taken away.

Inalienable rights are those rights can be given away with your consent, whether it is through inaction or explicit permission given.


There is a big difference between these 2 words. Do not let yourselves be fooled, Unalienable rights was used in the Bill of Rights for a reason and not Inalienable. It never was nor ever will be interchangeable with each other.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:59 | 3646588 AlaricBalth
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Last night Kirk2NCC1701 responded to a comment I made on the Revolution 2.0 by Simon Black thread. This was my response which I just posted. I am sorry for the repost but I think it is apropos to this article.

Kirk - You ask some very stirring questions which deserve an equally sagacious and sober response. 

Let me begin by asking you what you define as "patriotic comrades-in-arms"? If you are referring to mindless flag waving cheerleaders who scream "USA" at a sporting event, or one who emphatically states "America. Love it or leave it" without a full understanding of what America was, is, and could be, I would not qualify under that particular category. My oath was to my country, not the government. A patriot is one who supports good and limited governance. One who not only questions the government when injustice arises, but tries to affect change when repression, encroachment, incompetence and systemic criminality infringes upon the liberties which once made this nation a hopeful place.  

Liberty is the freedom to make choices.  I do not begrudge a man who has reached his saturation point and decides to leave. It is stessful to relocate a family to a place in which one is relatively unfamiliar.  However, I do have issues with a man who took an oath to defend, and then takes pot-shots from the comfort and temporal safety of the ski-slopes of the Andes.

Concerning Bush, Cheney, Obama et al, I neither voted for them nor support them. My political leanings do not adhere to the prevalent left/right paradigm. I have been very fortunate because I have experienced the best and worst of what this country has to offer. My "epiphany" or turning point, as you say, is a personal one which occured a very long time ago. This country has clearly lost its way. Too many individuals and entities believe entitlement is their birthright.  Too many have their hand out and not enough are willing to lend a hand. Sacrifice has become an archaic act and narcissism has become its replacement. 

I choose to stay, because I believe standing and fighting for an ideal can be contagious and it will leave a legacy for my children to follow.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:04 | 3646608 Uchtdorf
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In a word, bravo.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:22 | 3646680 DaddyO
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You Sir, have my respect!

I read this morning on another blog, this statement by the blogger:

If I must die, then I will do so here in America, fully armed and facing my oppressors. I won't die in some ditch, begging for mercy.

While some may find it troubling, I take it deeply to heart and am prepared for its eventuallity.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:43 | 3646799 davinci7_gis
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I totally concur...we may all get our wish soon and, as the old Bon Jovi song so aptly stated, " go out in a blaze of glory"!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:58 | 3646865 DaddyO
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My plan is not to " go out in a blaze of glory" as you stated, but to attempt peaceful resolution to my grievances. This notion that we are in the minority and will slog through the onslaught because the sheeple will lay bleeting in their stupor is a false one at best.

It is past time for many of us to go rattle the paddock gates and wake the sheeple up! Although the actions of one Edward Snowden may serve to elicit many from their slumber.

Also the notion that Simon Black has all the answers is pure horsehockey. It is high time to draw a moral line in the sand and decide whom you will serve, the call of a freeman or the lure of the status quo!

Red pill or Blue Pill, you decide...


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:50 | 3647147 aka Gil
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The "sheeple" have had ample time to wake up. If they don't stay out of the way, they could very well share the fate of the tyrants.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:18 | 3647278 DaddyO
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In Rev 1.0 many choose the side of the Tyrant...Will Rev 2.0 be any different if it comes to that? ...Decide whom you will serve, as stated previously...


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:20 | 3647294 JimBowie1958
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Ample time perhaps but the triggering events required have not yet happened for most.

That is why the PTB go to such expense to occupy the average persons mind with pointless entertainment.

The fires of hell have been replaced by the silence of boredom as the driving fear of our culture.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 17:27 | 3647860 Lester
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It is The State Legislators from "the many states" that MUST Be Held Accountable and Required By Their Respective Citizens to recall their Congressional delegations and Reform The Federal Government and ALL Bureaucracies, Courts and Operations.


America has the mechanism for reform, unlike most other Nations.  Time to use it is NOW~!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:09 | 3646623 The Gooch
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Hear Hear!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:51 | 3647155 prains
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 Too many have their hand out and not enough are willing to lend a hand.


And so few have STOLEN so much of the wealth of the nation that nothing is left to help those who truly need the help.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:51 | 3646548 Taint Boil
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 …… whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..

You all know where this got copied and pasted from!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:06 | 3646613 Ignatius
Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:06 | 3646614 mademesmile
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...He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:31 | 3646641 Citxmech
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What just blows me away is that Obama can stand up in front of a room (and nation) full of people who should know better, and state that he "swore and oath to keep America safe" - and not get called on it.

Fucking-A!  Last time I checked, what he swore, was to ". . . faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and. . .  to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Any self-proclaimed Constitutional scholar should know that serially violating the Constitution is NOT faithfully executing the Office of the President either.

Those in charge of the NSA, the entire FISA court system, POTUS including his cabinet, and any member of Congress who knowingly signed-off on this bullshit should be removed and indicted as domestic enemies of the Constitution (to which all members of the military are sworn to hold as enemies of We The People).

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:00 | 3646590 upWising
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Ben and Tom and James just didn't understand the threats we face!  This, "The Greatest Country The World Has Ever Seen" (according to Bob Dole), is under ATTACK by teenagers with accents and handguns!  Amercians DEMAND and EXPECT protection from these Existential Threats to the Amercian Way Of Life ("non-negotiable" according to Dick Cheney) and the Founding Fathers just don't get it.  For one thing, these old guys talk in long sentences that really don't make much sense.  Besides, these "Founders" never wrote a Mission Statement or Declaration of Shared Vision, never had a logo, never had a corporate motto. Where's their Business Plan?   Just not credible without these essential elements!!

I, for one, am CC:ing ALL my emails to NSA to save them the trouble of reading my emails because I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.  I LOVE Amercia and I support anything the Rulers tell me to do.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:15 | 3646651 LuckoftheIrish
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Thank you for the wonderful email idea! I have just emailed the NSA to be certain I am CC'ing to the correct address. Fuckers.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 15:48 | 3647424 Midasking
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Michael Moore disagrees with a lot of what the Founding Fathers mentioned... I don't know who to believe.  http://tinyurl.com/mem7o7x

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:48 | 3646531 ParkAveFlasher
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Say it with lead.  Say it with gold.  Say it with pride.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:48 | 3646534 Jigsaw
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i demand satisfaction

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:49 | 3646535 BaggerDon
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Sadly, I think most Americans look upon US citizenship as some sort of CRUISE....no decisions or risks please, just let me know what time dinner and the show are....

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:49 | 3646833 CH1
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Excellent analogy!

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:29 | 3647038 Taint Boil
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Yeah, another  +1 - excellent analogy

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:49 | 3646536 de3de8
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Good luck considering the majority of the Sheeple are ok with the eavesdropping.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:59 | 3646586 smlbizman
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thats what they say....other signs say a different tune....

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 14:34 | 3647057 DaddyO
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Everyone I ask that is aware of the leaks and current state of affairs is PISSED...

Again, this notion that the sheeple will lay bleeting is a false one...some will because they have been lured into dependence on their masters.

Others, will wake up and shrug off the status quo, rest assured.


Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:50 | 3646538 kaiserhoff
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So the lard assed Washington media have suddenly become civil libertarians,

  or are they just reading this week's script as usual?

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:52 | 3646553 NoDebt
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Reading the script.

There was an article on here yesterday that said something like 65% of Americans don't give a fuck .gov is spying on them.  As long as that's true (and I have no idea if it is), this issue has no legs.

Tue, 06/11/2013 - 12:57 | 3646582 GubbermintWorker
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I can't tell you how many times I've read people say " If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?"



Tue, 06/11/2013 - 13:00 | 3646592 smlbizman
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please answer them from now on by saying...you dont get to chose whether you are doing anything wrong....THEY do.....

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