Ex-NSA Leaker's Advice To Snowden: "Always Check Your Six"

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"Be lawyered up to the max... find a place where it's going to be that much more difficult for the US to make arrangements for his return... and and always check your six," is the warning (advice) that Thomas Drake offers Edward Snowden, adding that, "it's now validation of this vast, now systemic, industrial-scale leviathan surveillance system." 

As Reuters reports, Drake is one of the few people who understands from personal experience what the NSA Whistleblower is going through - the 56-year-old was prosecuted under the Espionage Act in 2010 for allegedly revealing classified information about the agency's sweeping warrantless wire-tapping program. The government later dropped all but a misdemeanor charge.

"Always make sure you know what's behind you," he adds, "when you offer up information about the dark side of the surveillance state they don't take too kindly to it." Drake, whose life was "essentially destroyed," is now a technical expert at an Apple store, but he still believes what he did was worth it, having no doubts: "Is freedom worth it? Is liberty worth it? Is not living in a surveillance society worth it? You've got to stand up and defend the rights and the freedoms that prevent that from actually happening."

 

 

Via Reuters,

Thomas Drake is one of the few people who understands from personal experience what the future may hold for Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old former NSA contractor who exposed the U.S. government's top secret phone and Internet surveillance programs.

 

His advice for Snowden: "Be lawyered up to the max and find a place where it's going to be that much more difficult for the United States to make arrangements for his return," Drake said. "And always check six, as we said when I used to be a flyer in the Air Force. Always make sure you know what's behind you."

 

Drake, a 56-year-old former intelligence official at the National Security Agency, was prosecuted under the Espionage Act in 2010 for allegedly revealing classified information about the agency's sweeping warrantless wire-tapping program. The government later dropped all but a misdemeanor charge.

 

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"When you offer up information about the dark side of the surveillance state they don't take too kindly to it," he said. "They want to stay in the shadows."

 

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Drake, one of six people indicted for leaking secret information since President Barack Obama took office in 2009, said the FBI investigated him because it believed he was the source of a New York Times story published in December 2005 that first revealed the NSA's wire-tapping program. He says he was not the source of that information, and 10 felony counts against him were dropped when he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling government information.

 

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"My life was turned upside down and inside out," said Drake, who now earns an hourly wage as a technical expert at an Apple store. "I know what it's like to live in a surveillance state because the surveillance state was on me, riding me, for so many years. They obviously wanted to do me in. It was relentless. I wouldn't want any American to go through it."

 

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Drake, who resigned from the NSA in 2008, said the data released by Snowden validated concerns he began raising internally as early as 2002 about a huge spike in domestic surveillance after the September 11, 2001, hijacking attacks.

 

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"None of it surprises me," said Drake. "What you're seeing here is simply the continuation of what was done in absolute secrecy after 9/11. Those programs were put in place and simply expanded."

 

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Drake said he was still suffering the consequences of his actions. "My life was essentially destroyed," Drake said, noting that the case took a terrible financial and personal toll. He lost his retirement savings and went into debt as his legal bills approached $100,000.

 

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Asked if he still believes what he did was worth it, Drake had no doubts: "Is freedom worth it? Is liberty worth it? Is not living in a surveillance society worth it?"

 

"If you don't want to live it, then you've got to stand up and defend the rights and the freedoms that prevent that from actually happening," he said.

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Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:04 | 3649661 RockRiver
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The man's a hero.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:08 | 3649677 Race Car Driver
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He's a spook. This article is spooks talking about spooks. This has nothing to do with you, me - or reality.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:11 | 3649685 The Juggernaut
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Put up Edward Snowden's name next to the names of previous whistle blowers; Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Paine and all the other Founders.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:26 | 3649733 smlbizman
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and please add bradley manning.....if you havn't seen why he is be persecuted, please watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw442y2fTeU

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:38 | 3649766 francis_sawyer
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Who needs Bradley Manning when you have Maxine Waters

~~~

Obama needs to GET whatever data he can while he's there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElHmZnlHuks

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:41 | 3649780 smlbizman
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that video of cold blooded killings has only 12k views.....it be nice if the hedge stuck it up in a grey box for a weekend....it is hard to watch but it definetly will change minds

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:57 | 3649838 jbvtme
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mother fucking cowards! i've seen this before and i'm fighting back the tears

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:46 | 3650010 New England Patriot
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I tend to think this type of heroism is rewarded by God, in matyrdom. 

 

Store up your treasures in heaven.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:49 | 3651004 AldousHuxley
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mob boss wife with kids in private school and $10,000 purse says her husband's work is unethical.

 

True heroes are ex-pats. 

 

Imagine all working americans left america.....

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:50 | 3650021 smlbizman
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jb....me and my 17 yr old son watched this...he has made sure everyone of his friends have watched it....1 brick at a time...and yes it will bring tears for so many reasons....i am glad that i will never run over a body and laugh...im sure their parents are proud of them.....cocksuckers..

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:39 | 3650947 AldousHuxley
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The reason you and your son enjoys higher standard of living than an Iranian or Syrian is because of NSA. 

 

Their narcicism displayed on facebook for free offsets any realization of reality from youtube video clips.

 

Mafia wives aren't entitled to whistleblowing their husband's work.

 

Most people are living off of America's evil deeds in the past. sorry folks that's the truth.

 

People enjoying the fruits of the empire complaining about empire's powers.....

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:49 | 3651002 James_Cole
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Most people are living off of America's evil deeds in the past. sorry folks that's the truth.

People enjoying the fruits of the empire complaining about empire's powers.....

True and not true. We don't have an alternate history to compare to, but it looks increasingly obvious that empire has been a net negative. 

At the end of the day, there will always be some balance necessary though, which is why both sides have difficult arguments, as Orwell noted:

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

George Orwell

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 15:01 | 3651051 AldousHuxley
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bubbles burst, economies recover. 

 

No one is powerful enough to tilt the system. System is constantly evolving.

Just make sure you get out of the way when it is time for the system to punish.

 

But the masses are just busy running in circles, so why save them? Why educate willfully ignorant populace? 

 

 

 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 15:17 | 3651112 James_Cole
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Just make sure you get out of the way when it is time for the system to punish.

But the masses are just busy running in circles, so why save them? Why educate willfully ignorant populace? 

The exact WRONG way to think about it imo. Individual humans are deeply irrational, but it's been proven over and over that a group of individuals independently thinking will come up with the best solutions (in terms of the big picture). * NOT * to be confused with groupthink. It's called the wisdom of crowds. 

Systems are mostly run by individuals, or small groups of like-minded individuals, which is why systems are prone to absurd failure. Up until the last couple decades it's been basically impossible to use 'the wisdom of crowds,' but with new technology there's a lot of promise for where this could lead.

And inevitable pushback because the power structures in place don't want to lose their privilege and so you hear a lot about how average people are stupid, ignorant etc. therefore we need 'brilliant' masters to lead everyone. And it's true that individuals are stupid and ignorant (especially, apparently, people in power) but the group is much smarter.

 

This is why humanity is desperately in need of a system which supports both individual liberty and the power of truly distributive democracy. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:15 | 3649896 Bay of Pigs
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She just might be the dumbest person to ever serve in Congress. Special kind of stupid/mentally retarded.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:49 | 3650019 TeamDepends
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Are you sure?  Remember the guy (possibly not a Congressman) who was speaking with some top-brass military stationed on Guam.  He asked them if they were worried that the island would tip over because there were too many people on one side.  The military man, cool as cucumber, replied: No, no, we don't expect that to happen.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3650075 Bay of Pigs
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Yes, Hank Johnson  (D-GA) is a close second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMryErno5kg

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 12:19 | 3650365 Aurora Ex Machina
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You missed what's going on in that video.

The Senator is famous for having an extremely dry / sardonic humor, and knew all the questions he was asking about Guam were smoke being blown up his ass. So he asks the dumbest, most obvious, trolololol question he can (on record) just to tell the military guy that he knows he's being bullshitted, he knows he's being stone walled and he knows that nothing he asks is going to get a serious answer.

You think only 4chan knows how to troll? He's pointing out how tiny the Island is compared to USA military might and how he considers it a terrible choice. If you missed it, the military guy knows it as well, the finger pointing to his eye is a well known insult / non-verbal signal.

 

Searching for submarines: look for what's not said just as much as what is said. Also, two rules:

#1 Nothing is literal

#2 Nothing is entirely verbal

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:20 | 3650127 ceilidh_trail
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So, what does that say about the people who repeatedly vote her (and him) back into office?

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 12:13 | 3650354 francis_sawyer
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Which ones?... The ones who voted early, or the ones who voted often?

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:58 | 3649833 jbvtme
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delete

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:27 | 3649735 Ignatius
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...Thomas Drake, William Binney, Bradley Manning, Sibel Edmonds, etc..

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:57 | 3650051 seataka
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They and Mr. Edward Snowden,  and Mr Julian Assage all know that

Secrets are the mortar,
binding lies as bricks together,
into prisons for your mind.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:44 | 3650974 AldousHuxley
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commoners discovering santa clause isn't real, so they sue their parents for wrongdoing....

 

folks, US steals wealth around the world through force (wars) and petrodollar system operated on wall street (inflation).

 

That non-profit healthcare for the poor? where do you think the money comes from? 

 

Working at an apple store is far better than working at apple affiliated manufacturer in China.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:18 | 3649912 maxkoda
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Ron Paul said in his book - "Freedom Under Siege":

"The individual who dares to demand to be left alone and to assume responsibility for himself becomes a criminal."

I would simply preface that quote with: "In the eyes of the state," to attain:

In the eyes of the state, the individual who dares to demand to be left alone and to assume responsibility for himself becomes a criminal.

I believe that any individual who has the audacity to place his own personal interests ahead of those of the state, is in essence - an enemy of the state.

Look out tyranny here we come!

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:33 | 3649966 Midasking
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Get your daily Tyranny News http://tinyurl.com/n8hmfya

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:47 | 3650986 AldousHuxley
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ron paul = government worker

NSA leaker/whistleblower = ex-government worker

NSA = government workers

Obama = government worker

 

all government workers....when you work for the biggest mafia in town, only leaking you are allowed is over the toilet.

 

apple store = tells you market worth of this guy...

 

 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:08 | 3650089 steelhead23
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I note that Juggernaut got almost 20 times as much support for his statement as detractors, yet, if Pew Research is to be believed (it is generally brutally honest) some 53% of Americans support being spied on by Big Brother.  I take this to mean that not only has the surveillance state been extremely effective, but the ministry of propaganda (Fox etc.) has completed the coup.  Makes me want to cry.  http://www.infowars.com/most-americans-support-being-spied-on-by-nsa/

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:39 | 3650939 robobbob
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funny how only months ago they were reporting the government had some of the lowest support ever recorded, AND Americans considered it to be the BIGGEST threat to liberty.

Now, just in time for circling the big brother wagons, they report Americans are ok with being spied on?

something stinks.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:56 | 3649836 DaveyJones
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race car driver, go back to playing with your toys

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:14 | 3649893 prains
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and stroking your creamy white man boobs

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:45 | 3650003 prains
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hard to be a race car driver with those jugs hey!

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3650215 Race Car Driver
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Kindly keep your perverse homo-erotic fantasies to yourself. Perhaps, seek help.

 

WTF?

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 16:49 | 3651516 prains
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never care to want to know you as a human being, your comments reveal the trash in your soul but from where I stand without having a clue who you are; your man boobs are more than just a physical trait. keep up the less the mediocre work race car

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:47 | 3650011 smlbizman
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race car driver is scott...and everybody knows scotts a dick....

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:09 | 3649871 Edward Fiatski
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Hey, looky here - a motive has been found:

"Drake, who resigned from the NSA in 2008, said the data released by Snowden validated concerns he began raising internally as early as 2002 about a huge spike in domestic surveillance after the September 11, 2001, hijacking attacks."

I'm still wondering about the technical details of how the three WTC towers were rigged with thermate demo charges - but whoever is responsible sure did have some heavy computing power to model their collapse to the millisecond and desired footprint.

Engineer testing out home-made thermate charges that cut through steel beams in a flash - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

On a hilarious note, there's a FLIR Webshop advert to my left.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 12:51 | 3650524 Lost Word
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Good youtube page.

Domestic spying greatly increased after 9-11 attacks probably to look for leaks from Insiders of that Government  Inside Job terror attack, and to look for Intelligence people who understood it was an Inside Job.

I wonder how many of the Government technicians that did the detailed dirty work have been assassinated as part of the coverup, like the "mechanics" of a Mafia hit team?

Maybe the Israeli's are safe in Israel.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:05 | 3650073 PacOps
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What should happen to NSA leaker Edward Snowden? Give him the Medal of Freedom for exposing a government out of control. 76.54%    Nothing. Let him live his life and move on. 14.81%    He should spend the rest of his life in prison as a traitor. 7.41%    He should be assassinated. 1.23%   

http://rare.us/story/poll-what-should-happen-to-nsa-leaker-edward-snowden/

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:05 | 3649663 fightthepower
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If they have the power to spy on us all, sooner or later it will be used to kill millions. 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 09:21 | 3649724 Yes_Questions
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I don't know if the spying is more than a way to ferret out would be sheep dogs mincing around in the herd.

 

But, for mass killing, look no further than Big Ag and Big Pharma.

Combined with the STRESS the lack of money creates, life span will decrease sharply if all goes to plan.

 

 

 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:46 | 3650005 Doctor of Reality
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I doubt there will be "camps" to kill us off. GMO in most foods, medications (for every ache & pain) that have cumulative adverse side effects, increasing stress due to an obvious decreasing standard of living... life expectancy will fall for the majority within the next 20 years; making population control more palatable to the "softer" folks in the leadership class. I believe there are some who would love a mass kill off via war, some who would like to unleash hell on their own citizens (political enemies) and some who want mass death through attrition. I'd rather get shot in the head than die a slow and painful death, but being non-violent means I'll most likely die at age 52 from cancer due to environmental agents rather than being lined up in front of a ditch.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 14:42 | 3650481 Aurora Ex Machina
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Algos are far more complicated than you realize; they're certainly being used to spot personality types. Everything you type on this site is used to model you. Every time you interact with The System, it's building a picture of you. As I said, The Internet is not what you think it is.

If you're more visual, I'd suggest the excellent BBC series "The Last Enemy". And, just to let you know: that sort of complete data denial / societal sphere manipulation is active and live. What people call "gang stalking" is usually a live OP.

Allegedly, of course. Sure it never gets used on innocent American citizens without their permission or knowledge. At least, not provable in court. And it's certainly not limited to the Government sphere: industrial espionage, hackers using "social engineering", Scientologists, you name it. There's even a budding market in contractors willing to pay out to do it (for instance, I remember something about a certain Circus magnate in the USA, an investigative reporter writing a book and eight years of OPs on her. Allegedly, of course) - what do you think everyone does with their training when they're no longer protecting the Nation?

 

What do you think all those humanities majors do with their acting degrees, if they're smart? Look into the 1960's French Avant-Garde and their use of theater on unsuspecting members of the public to cause awakening in their subject. Now it's Corporate, and has far sharper teeth. For the science fiction lovers among you, I'd suggest Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, in particular the character path of John Percival Hackworth.

 

Society is a System.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 12:59 | 3650553 Lost Word
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Toxic metal chem-trails sprayed in the air, Aluminum and Barium, supposedly.

Fall-out poisoning people and the Earth. Aluminum linked to Alzheimers dementia.

Alzheimers dying young.

Monsanto supposedly has GMO seeds resistant to Aluminum toxicity which will kill off competition.

But how are the Puppet-Masters immune to this poison?

No chem-trails near Israel ?

 

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 19:14 | 3649864 DaveyJones
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as many wisemen have said, it's first purpose is to kill thought not people. whether or not they intentionally "took a  leak" on all of us, it seems to be working for them. We are indeed getting conditioned and intimidated....  along with

the courts, the press, and the troublemakers

I apologize for the theatrics but this is such familiar territory it makes me sick... coming from someone who has practiced criminal procedure and constitutional law for 22 years and taught it at the university. The fact that such blatant, confessed and inexcusable violations of the fourth amendment are occuring at the grandest scale we have ever seen and the fact that US district courts are not issuing emergency injuctions to the executive branch all under the bullshit and criminal blanket of "the War on Terror" - a war, by the way that is already without debate based upon criminal lies, and the fact that the press or the legislative branch is not calling for impeachment and investigations screams to me that my country is dead.  

  

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:06 | 3649868 Republi-Ken
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Its spooky what the spooks are doing to our freedom.

Last night NSA heard Tylers's phone order for DOMINO's 7.99 carry out special.

Double Pepperoni.

GEEZUS.

Now his freedom is destroyed. Double Pepperoni.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:17 | 3649905 prains
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weak troll,

you'll need to pucker up and try harder, maybe from the other hole

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:57 | 3650053 Oldwood
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The answer is to love one's (abuser) Provider. When he kicks you in the ribs, it is your own fault, as you obviously have failed to love deep enough. To commit far enough. When he takes your lunch and devours it before you, it is for your own good, for he is the protector, the Provider of all things. Do not question issues of freedom as those are but gifts from the Provider. We are but to be thankful for "gifts" we receive. Kneel before the Provider. He is our God.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:24 | 3649908 Ignatius
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The power pyramid is built, and they're now smoothing the plaster and applying the logos and the paint.

Drake said it, that it all accelerated after 9/11.

A disbelieving friend -- a college professor, no less -- once expressed his doubts about my/others 'false flag' assertion about 9/11 by saying "the MIC is the most powerful entity, why would they need to do this?"

Answer:  How many divisions is it worth to have people believe this myth?  It is invaluable to have the people self-herded into compliance without having to raise a baton nor fire a shot.

Break the 9/11 Myth and we break the rationale for this security leviathon.  Failing to do so, well, you see and know where this is going -- the Stasi wet dream.

Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:57 | 3649955 Edward Fiatski
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There are 2 scenarios with regards to the full disclosure on events of 9/11:

1) Disclosure by high gov't-linked entities leads to the planned & controlled downfall of the Republic, to be replaced by NAU, of course.

2) The next generation of people, or even two generations ahead, eventually find out the real details and start writing their own history books on the Rise & Fall of Fascist America.*

*Reminds you of anything? Reichstag fire. You bet that in 1933 there wasn't a significant number of people questioning the events that took place in Berlin that year, otherwise World War II wouldn't have been possible. So, again, history will throw somebody under the bus on it, but either way - America will have changed by then. In the direction desired by the Owners, of course. :-)

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