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22 Nauseating Quotes From Hypocritical Establishment Politicians About The NSA Spying Scandal

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Establishment politicians from both major political parties are rushing to defend the NSA and condemn whistleblower Edward Snowden.  They are attempting to portray Edward Snowden as a "traitor" and the spooks over at the NSA that are snooping on all of us as "heroes".  In fact, many of the exact same politicians that once railed against government spying during the Bush years are now staunchly defending it now that Obama is in the White House.

But it isn't just Democrats that are acting shamefully.  Large numbers of Republican politicians that love to give speeches about "freedom" and "liberty" are attempting to eviscerate the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  The government is not supposed to invade our privacy and investigate us unless there is probable cause to do so. 

Apparently many of our politicians misunderstood when they read the novel 1984 by George Orwell.  It wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual.  We should be thanking Edward Snowden for exposing the deep corruption that is eating away at our own government like cancer.  Now the American people need to pick up the ball and start demanding answers, because without a doubt we are going to see establishment politicians from both major political parties try to shut this scandal down.  Establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans both love the Big Brother surveillance grid that the U.S. government has constructed, and they are both making it abundantly clear that they will defend the NSA to the very end.  The following are 22 nauseating quotes from hypocritical establishment politicians that show exactly how they feel about the NSA spying scandal...

#1 Barack Obama: "I think it’s important to understand that you can’t have 100 percent security and then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We’re going to have to make some choices as a society."

#2 Barack Obama in 2007: "This Administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand… That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists… We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary."

#3 Speaker Of The House John Boehner on what he thinks about NSA leaker Edward Snowden: "He’s a traitor."

#4 U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham: "I hope we follow Mr. Snowden to the ends of the Earth to bring him to justice."

#5 U.S. Senator Al Franken: "I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people."

#6 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: "For senators to complain that they didn’t know this was happening, we had many, many meetings that have been both classified and unclassified that members have been invited to"

#7 U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell: "Given the scope of these programs, it’s understandable that many would be concerned about issues related to privacy. But what’s difficult to understand is the motivation of somebody who intentionally would seek to warn the nation’s enemies of lawful programs created to protect the American people. And I hope that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

#8 U.S. Representative Peter King on why he believes that reporters should be prosecuted for revealing NSA secrets: "There is an obligation both moral, but also legal, I believe, against a reporter disclosing something which would so severely compromise national security."

#9 Director of National Intelligence James Clapper making a joke during an awards ceremony last Friday night: "Some of you expressed surprise that I showed up—so many emails to read!"

#10 Director Of National Intelligence James Clapper about why he lied about NSA spying in front of Congress: "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner"

#11 National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden: "The president has full faith in director Clapper and his leadership of the intelligence community"

#12 White House press secretary Jay Carney: "...Clapper has been straight and direct in the answers that he's given, and has actively engaged in an effort to provide more information about the programs that have been revealed through the leak of classified information"

#13 Dianne Feinstein, the chairwoman of the Senate intelligence committee: "There is no more direct or honest person than Jim Clapper."

#14 Gus Hunt, the chief technology officer at the CIA: "We fundamentally try to collect everything and hang onto it forever."

#15 Barack Obama: "Nobody is listening to your telephone calls."

#16 Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency: "We do not see a tradeoff between security and liberty."

#17 An exchange between NSA director Keith Alexander and U.S. Representative Hank Johnson in March 2012...

JOHNSON: Does the NSA routinely intercept American citizens’ emails?


JOHNSON: Does the NSA intercept Americans’ cell phone conversations?


JOHNSON: Google searches?


JOHNSON: Text messages?


JOHNSON: orders?


JOHNSON: Bank records?


#18 Deputy White House press secretary Dana Perino: "The intelligence activities undertaken by the United States government are lawful, necessary and required to protect Americans from terrorist attacks"

#19 U.S. Senator Saxby Chambliss: "This is nothing new.  It has proved meritorious because we have gathered significant information on bad guys and only on bad guys over the years."

#20 Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton on NSA leaker Edward Snowden: "Let me ask, who died and made him king? Who gave him the authority to endanger 300 million Americans? That's not the way it works, and if he thinks he can get away with that, he's got another think coming."

#21 Senior spokesman for the NSA Don Weber: "Given the nature of the work we do, it would be irresponsible to comment on actual or alleged operational issues; therefore, we have no information to provide"

#22 The White House website: "My administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration."

Right now, the NSA is building a data collection center out in Utah that is so massive that it is hard to describe with words.  It is going to cost 40 million dollars a year just to provide the energy needed to run it.  According to a 2012 Wired article entitled "The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)", this data center will contain "the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches" in addition to "parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases" and anything else that the NSA decides to collect...

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.

The goal is to know as much about everyone on the planet as possible.

And the NSA does not keep this information to itself.  As an article in USA Today recently reported, the NSA shares the data that it collects with other government agencies "as a matter of practice"...

As a matter of practice, the NSA regularly shares its information — known as "product" in intelligence circles — with other intelligence groups.

So when the NSA collects information about you, there is a very good chance that the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Homeland Security and the IRS will have access to it as well.

But the U.S. government is not the only one collecting data on American citizens.

Guess who else has been collecting massive amounts of data on the American people?

Barack Obama.

According to those that have seen it, the "Obama database" is unlike anything that any politician has ever put together before.  According to, U.S. Representative Maxine Waters says that this database "will have information about everything on every individual"...

"The president has put in place an organization that contains a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life," she added. "That’s going to be very, very powerful."

Martin asked if Waters if she was referring to "Organizing for America."

"That’s right, that’s right," Waters said. "And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before."

Waters said the database would also serve future Democratic candidates seeking the presidency.

Perhaps this helps to explain why so many big donors got slapped with IRS audits immediately after they wrote big checks to the Romney campaign.

We are being told to "trust" Barack Obama and the massive government surveillance grid that is being constructed all around us, but there has been example after example of government power being grossly abused in recent years.

A lot of Americans say that they do not care if the government is watching them because they do not have anything to hide, but is there anyone out there that would really not mind the government watching them and listening to them 24 hours a day?

For example, it has been documented that NSA workers eavesdropped on conversations between U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq and their loved ones back home.  Some of these conversations involved very intimate talk between husbands and wives.  The following is from a 2008 ABC News story...

Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of "cuts" that were available on each operator's computer.


"Hey, check this out," Faulk says he would be told, "there's good phone sex or there's some pillow talk, pull up this call, it's really funny, go check it out. It would be some colonel making pillow talk and we would say, 'Wow, this was crazy'," Faulk told ABC News.


Faulk said he joined in to listen, and talk about it during breaks in Back Hall's "smoke pit," but ended up feeling badly about his actions.

Is this really what we want the future of America to look like?

Do we really want the government to watch us and listen to us during our most intimate moments?


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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:10 | 3656899 IndyPat
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Glad we cleared that up, I was worried I wouldn't be able to say shit like

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:26 | 3656949 knukles
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Nah, you can say anything you want... just be prepared to have your ashes wafting out the chimney.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:30 | 3656962 IndyPat
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Soap or soylent green this time around? What's the over/under?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:28 | 3657083 AlaricBalth
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I am curious to know how often they are recording our conversations even when we are not on the phone. The technology to activate cell phone microphones has existed for a few years and is known as "roving bugs". I am willing to bet all conversations are recorded.

From CNet in 2006: The U.S. Commerce Department's security office warns that "a cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone." An article in the Financial Times last year said mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software on to any handset, without the owner's knowledge, which will activate the microphone even when its owner is not making a call."

I am certain that 7 years after this article was written, the technology has advanced to where the activator need not be in the vicinity of the phone.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:31 | 3657117 IndyPat
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I think you solved my battery chargé problem. Now it seems I have another one. And I have my doubts if an iPhone is ever really off. Might lock it in a 50 cal ammo can when I'm home or tape the mic.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 02:05 | 3657350 philipat
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Crapper was given two choices to answer the question "Is the NSA collecting ANY information on US citizens": Yes or No.

He answered "NO, Sir" which he now qualifies was "The least untruthful answer".

IMHO, actually, the "least untruthful answer" would have been YES!!


Congressional oversight? What a joke. The Government is TOTALLY out of control.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 05:45 | 3657470 0z
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Why are people losing their time compaining about the State?

ANY State, by definition, is a monopolist of violence and  "legislation."

So, all of these Statesmen are behaving exactly as they should, by expending their monopolies.

Nothing surprising there, just like water flows down ...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:41 | 3657851 franzpick
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Saying that the messenger should be shot, says everything about the declarer and nothing about the messenger, let alone the message.


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:00 | 3660863 Widowmaker
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"Government" bought and paid for.

Fascism owns the USA.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:15 | 3657187 Things that go bump
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I don't have a cell phone. I have never had a cell phone. I don't like them. If I am out, I don't want people to get in touch with me. Sometimes I find now that when I am visiting with someone, they take calls on their cell phone and text and it is so rude. We are going to pay a big price for this interconnectedness and it is going to get bigger as time goes on. I expect that if it hasn't been done already, they will next be putting devices in our TVs so they can watch us in our homes and in our beds. If the government has the capability to do a thing they will use it. There is no going back from this. Welcome to surveillance planet. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:27 | 3657488 imaginalis
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My Sony TV has a camera built in which we covered up with black electrical tape due to shyness. They are probably watching us through the TiVo or my Blu-Ray player regardless.....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:14 | 3657527 S5936
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Yeah , how about recording device in every new energy efficient climate change global warming friendly smart stove, refrigerator , microwave etc made by big brother GE

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:56 | 3658234 Lost Word
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Everything with hidden Wi-Fi built into the item ?

Everything with hidden cellular phone system built into the item ?

Something like the new Electric Grid "Smart Meters" ?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:56 | 3657714 Bryan
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You mean there are two of us in the world??  lol

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:39 | 3656986 johnQpublic
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:52 | 3657019 Groundhog Day
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 Barack Obama: "I think it’s important to understand that you can’t have 100 percent security and then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We’re going to have to make some choices as a society."


I'd like you to stay out of my life and i'll take my chances with an imminent attack

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:00 | 3657042 IndyPat
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What's this "we" shit, homeboy? That gerbil squeaking in your ass again?

I don't know about the society and I won't speak for them as you do, but....I've made my choice.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:33 | 3657661 dontgoforit
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What-if some anti-American regime (take your pick - there's more than a few) really wanted to screw things up?  Say they got a nuke, say they set something up like in Clancy's The Sum of All Fears and there's no security agency that picks it up.  What do you think people would say then?  So, if you're in D.C. as an 'official' - would you not be focused on trying to find this plan out before it was put into place?  If any of the major capitals goes up in smoke, D.C., Moscow, Beijing - again, take your pick - then we all most likely will go up in smoke, too.  So what would you do?  We see the potential problems with all this though: using information for good and for illegal or for bad purposes, political purposes, or to persecute people.  Walking on a razor blade's edge.  But what would you do?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:59 | 3657718 Financial Cold ...
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It's called a subpeona, and probable cause....then fire away.  Something inside me tells me a judge would likely sign off on the request if its as dire as you claim. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:23 | 3657973 TheMeatTrapper
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The only way this country can be saved is for DC to go up in smoke. Where is Al Qaeda when you need them?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:56 | 3658055 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hope & Pray?

There's a whole industry around that, which swears by it. And we keep 'saying' that "In God We Trust".

Of course He might advise us in our prayers, that we should mind our own fornicating business, do less of it, and let Him handle his agents in other countries.

He might also suggest turning some swords (titanium plane parts) into plows.

Apparently we don't trust in God as much as we proclaim and pretend, given our MIC, CIA, NSA, DHS...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:26 | 3658149 JimBowie1958
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Since 2001, more Americans have drowned than were killed by terrorists. The response is at least disproportionate if not frought with police state ideology.

We should try to snoop on terrorists or legit suspects that a judge is willg to sign on public warrants available after arrests have been made. But this is out of anyones fevered imaginations twelve years ago.

Time to put the geni back in the godamned bottle.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:59 | 3657581 SteveNYC
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Nice list of narcissistic sociopaths.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:12 | 3656900 One And Only
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"I welcome open debate on this"

Fuck all of you cunts.

I can't believe any of you are allowed the privlege of speaking on my behalf.

You are all pieces of shit.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:28 | 3656953 knukles
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"Debate" that which is being done illegally in contravention of the Constitution... Gee, that's gracious of you fuckers, to say the least.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:52 | 3657020 Mad Mohel
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The more they try to smear that kid, the more his credibility goes up.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:52 | 3657153 Anusocracy
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#16 Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton on NSA leaker Edward Snowden: "Let me ask, who died and made him king?"

Good question, Johnny. Where did anyone get the right to be a king, or a president, or to form a government? There are no such rights. It was by force and, ever since, by force - the same mechanism as any form of slavery.

Government has always been evil, it can't be anything else.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:24 | 3657541 S5936
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Bolton and his ilk have red faced tantrum shit fit when anyone goes outside their circle of control and intimation. Can't handle exposure to the light.
Snowden a BIG time hero !!
Bolton can go fuckoff !!!!!!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:13 | 3656906 Jam Akin
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:14 | 3656910 astroloungers
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Pols,Talking heads,spooks. Give me a used car salesman in a cheap polyester suit any day over these crooks.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:20 | 3656927 nmewn
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Its for your own good!!!

(Coming from the very same people who habitually fail to read the law they're voting on)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:30 | 3656958 krispkritter
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Silly nmewn, they have to pass it before they can read it. I got that right from the horse's mouth. OK, it was a jackass but still, it has to be true right?

Late evening viewing:  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:52 | 3656999 Taku
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Noun - A person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.

I would add, done, often times for personal gain.

Let's see Mr. and Ms. Politician, who does this most sound like?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 04:47 | 3657447 Renegade Though...
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In contrast...


John 15:13

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


Let the fucktart statists suck on that for a moment.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:35 | 3656973 mademesmile
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My fav has to be "If it saves just one life..."

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
? Adolf Hitler

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:49 | 3657011 IndyPat
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4th Stoog is partial to the "for the kids sake" bit, if I remember correctly. I'm with him on that one. I chose the "not gonna bring kids into this mess in the first place" route, so I take exception to being pestered about little Johnny snot noses' delicate sensibilities and what we have to do and no do for a bunch of mind altered psychotropic rug rats.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:39 | 3657130 XitSam
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(Coming from the same people that exempt themselves from every law they're voting on)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:23 | 3656929 Evil Bugeyes
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Edit: Dear NSA-bots. That was NOT a secret message ordering a coordinated set of terrorist attacks. It was simply a keyboard malfunction.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:46 | 3657140 Schmuck Raker
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+1 for sneaky

I read that as "Fuck You Bernanke". But I'm new to cryptology.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:00 | 3657917 franzpick
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Obammy might call it "Workplace digital violence".

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:22 | 3656931 Cistercian
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All lies all the time.

  They do whatever they want...murder,theft and mayhem writ large.

 How much longer will we allow the Super-Villains to run everything?


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:31 | 3657114 Ignatius
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#5 U.S. Senator Al Franken: "I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people."

I used to think this guy was funny.  Not laughing now.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:10 | 3657180 Spanky
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Apparently Franken's performing for a different audience now.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:35 | 3657215 bilbert
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Al used to abhor Rush Limbaugh - now he sounds like him..............

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:20 | 3657534 augustusgloop
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Franken: "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them" got a little too close to the material, I see. 


But hey, Angela Merkel used to be a communist youth leader and now she's the iron fist of capitalism and the masters of the modern surveillance state are calling US companies Stasi informants. 


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:22 | 3656934 stant
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google main core

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:33 | 3656967 IndyPat
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Oh, I got their main core right here

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:26 | 3656946 booboo
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I especially enjoy the reliance on "polls" as a standard of what rights we should enjoy, as if some fat chick in spandex waddling around a mall in Stinkin Creek Ohio can vote my Constitutional rights off Dancing with the Tards. What the government has not given the government cannot take away. Suck it Barack and your gang of 535 Merry Fags, you lose.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:26 | 3656948 Overfed
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Can we please get a lynch mob together? I'll bring some rope.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:27 | 3656951 RideTheWalrus
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James Gonorrhoea about why he lied about NSA spying:
"I responded in what I thought was the most .. untruthful manner"



Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:28 | 3656954 djsmps
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I've had the same comment over and over: Double plus ungood.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:41 | 3656966 Fuku Ben
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"fuck your shitty town bitches"

Applies equally well in Douche Central 

Google it with quotes if you don't know what it refers to


Don't miss the showdown in Istanbul today

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:38 | 3656983 Yen Cross
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  I just Burped up> a few congressmen_

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:50 | 3657014 NoDebt
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Yeah, I threw up in the back of my mouth a little, too.  It sucks when you finally know you lost.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:39 | 3656984 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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All politicians are slime. In NZ, we have some real hypocritical venal wankers. But US politicians are the slimiest. The whole culture of your politic is corrupt. Nothing will change either...until blood is let. I am not being melodramatic, it is the truth.

PS I hope our courts tell your FBI to fuck off on the Kim Dotcom case....and it is very very likely they will.

General message from this New Zealander to the NSA, CIA, FBI, Congress, Whitehouse ,SCOTUS...go fuck yourselves

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:43 | 3656997 IndyPat
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And guess what? They read that general the thought formed in your minds! So fucking cool, huh?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:40 | 3656990 IndyPat
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It is going to cost 40 million dollars a year just to provide the energy needed to run it.

Nice. Sounds like a Green Project. Only take a moon sized field of solar panels to run this...for a day.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:50 | 3657502 Winston Churchill
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Direct connection to the Hoover dam.

Cue' dambuster theme.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:06 | 3658282 Lost Word
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NSA hacks probably control the Electric Grid.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:49 | 3656998 22winmag
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Okay... this collection of quotes represents the last nail in the coffin for me. I'm now convinced.


Everyone above the rank of file clerk in the federal government is knowingly conspiring with one another against the people and the Constitution.


I believe their days are numbered however. The only question remaining is when will the bullets fly.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:23 | 3657198 Spanky
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It's just my preference, but I'd prefer the bullets not fly. The last thing I want is a warzone in my neighborhood. Perhaps it's unavoidable, but let's try everything else first...

And since I don't see many ideas about what we might practically accomplish, to resist and throw off this tyranny, might I suggest this idea:

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:02 | 3657515 22winmag
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I pray they don't either, but something has to give. I am not one of those "bring it on" jerkoffs.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:46 | 3657002 NoDebt
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Like I said since this story broke, BOTH sides WANT this power, this capability.  It's intoxicating.  They know EVENTUALLY they will be the ones at the controls of it.  NOBODY in DC wants it gone just because it's blatantly unconstitutional.  It will be preserved.  It will, in fact, be expanded.  Radically expanded.

1984 has arrived roughly 20 years late, but it's here now in full force.  The New Dark Ages have arrived.  The masters finally have the technology to control MILLIONS of serfs for each one of them, not just a few hundred or thousand. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:46 | 3657003 ebworthen
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"Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton on NSA leaker Edward Snowden: 'Let me ask, who died and made him king? Who gave him the authority to endanger 300 million Americans?' "

In a Democratic Republic each citizen is supposed to be "King" - and those in Government  are supposed to be public servants; just when did Bolton and all the other arrogant turds like him forget this?

Wake up you sycophantic pieces of shit - before we are forced to resuscitate the guillotines.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:54 | 3657025 IndyPat
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Bolton is a special kind of prick, isn't he? Walrus 'stached fucker.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:01 | 3657046 Westcoastliberal
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Bolton is such a fuck.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:42 | 3657134 Yes_Questions
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It is too late to go back now.   Too late to put the genie back in the bottle.


They look out at the environment they've created for the average person and have accidently made a prison of their official livelyhoods.




Beeeeeep  beep beep beep...


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:50 | 3657013 ziggy59
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I doubt most of the congress idiots read 1984... Most would fail a test given on the Constitution..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:07 | 3657021 Downtoolong
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I still contend that these slime-balls are mostly defending the Carlyle Group’s opportunity to profit from the inside information their Booz Allen affiliate is acquiring from all this spying.

I wish I could prove to them why I feel that way, but, that information is classified, by me.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:53 | 3657022 SillySalesmanQu...
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I wish someone would prosecute Bitch McConnell to the fullest extent of the law. What a weasel!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:53 | 3657023 Atomizer
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The nationwide "If You See Something, Say Something™" public awareness campaign


Between your closed door motorboat conference sessions, ask yourself the obvious question… We do love our Republic Motherland, do you?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:11 | 3657066 IndyPat
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Gonna watch The Lives of Others movie this weekend off the telescreen, as it watches me...after evening message from Sis and the 5 minutes hate.
Have to get my anti STASI skills honed...maybe order a few books on STASI history off The Amazon CIA marketplace.
I got a plan, what could go wrong?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:35 | 3657123 Atomizer
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Be careful, the sub tier will report you.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 04:35 | 3657440 bunnyswanson
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Cory Rant - Energetic rant that holds your attention.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:08 | 3657597 S5936
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Talk about nailing it. Wow !! Many thx , great stuff

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:07 | 3657053 lolmao500
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I wish I could press a button and all these fucks would have heart attacks at the same time... if they had hearts to begin with.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:52 | 3657147 suteibu
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There are a lot of people who wish the same thing.  The Japanese manga Death Note is one of the best selling series of all time...26.5 million copies.  And that doesn't count the viewers of the anime or game players.  A brief description....

Death Note (????? Desu N?to?) is a Japanese manga series created by writer Tsugumi Ohba and manga artist Takeshi Obata. The main character is Light Yagami, a high school student who discovers a supernatural notebook, the "Death Note", dropped on Earth by a shinigami (a god of death) named Ryuk. The Death Note grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose name and face they know, by writing the name in the notebook while picturing their face. The series centers around Light's attempt to create and rule a world "cleansed of evil" as "God" using the notebook, and the efforts of a detective known as L to stop him.


Edit:  Unfortunately, it seems only Obama has the ability to press a button and make someone dead...along with everyone else in close proximity.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:57 | 3657905 Spastica Rex
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My son and I have been enjoying the anime of Shingeki no Kyojin.

If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. You can't win if you don't fight!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:12 | 3658322 Lost Word
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Supernatural James Bond and his 007 Licence to Kill ?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:30 | 3657207 Spanky
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:07 | 3657055 Crash Overide
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It's like us, and them... over and over again...   That Wired article is a good read and gives you a taste of the sociopath's "running" things. Whatever...  Something about the military industrial complex running wild with delusions. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:17 | 3657082 IndyPat
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I read that article when it came out and haven't read Wired since. The tone of the article was so....Worshipful? of our masters wonderful tech skillz.

I am Jacks raging bile duct.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:08 | 3657057 Schmuck Raker
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Fearing being relegated to second place, ABC proves their ability to play the goobermint's #1 boot-shine:

Thanks Tyler.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:14 | 3657067 q99x2
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A few of them we can vote out next time round. And if and when the revolution takes place (hope it doesn't happen like in Greece) we get to try them for treason.

Looks like they are in real trouble since they are moving to opt for WWIII as a diversion. The same senators will probably help hit the US with a false flag or two as well.

LA traffic is still my biggest threat.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:23 | 3657095 IndyPat
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WWIII as a diversion


Seriously, if you have to use WIII to get the sheep to look away, it's got to be SO huge a secret they are desperate to cover. I hope that kid is holding that card and lives to play it.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:48 | 3657142 Jorgen
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In related news: Russia may deem civil servants’ use of Gmail, Facebook ‘high treason’

After the latest NSA surveillance revelations a Russian MP has suggested to the government to immediately limit civil servants’ access to the popular US internet services and social networks.

Lower House deputy Ilya Kostunov sent letters to Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin (who oversees the Russian defense industry sector), the heads of the Defense Ministry, Federal Security Service and the Communications Ministry with a request to make official recommendation on usage of the popular US internet services such as Gmail and Facebook and sometimes also hardware devices produced by US companies.

The politician told Izvestia daily that the instructions should be made part of the civil servants’ contracts “so that they understood that by sending information through US services they not only fill up the dossiers on themselves and their organizations but can provide aid to a foreign state or organization that are engaged in anti-Russian activities”. “This falls under article 275 of the Russian Criminal Code as this is high treason,” he added.

Persons convicted under this article face up to 20 years in prison.


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:19 | 3658366 Lost Word
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WWIII not a diversion,

WWIII is the plan.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 01:13 | 3657294 fuckitall
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"A few of them we can vote out next time round"

When has "voting the bums out" ever worked?

"And if and when the revolution takes place (hope it doesn't happen like in Greece) we get to try them for treason."

It won't happen like Greeece because it won't happen at all. 

There are no true patriots left in America.  If there were, they would be guilty of treason for letting things get this bad.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:14 | 3657076 Yen Cross
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  I'm trying to get back into the link post extraordinaire'  [mindset]      A few "rotations" on Z/H jades the best of us....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:15 | 3657079 tony bonn
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the only traitors in this country are nazi criminals quoted in the article....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:20 | 3657084 Schmuck Raker
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Meanwhile...SEC is gonna investigate NANEX??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Totally nauseating...I am Sure.....gag me with a spoo....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:26 | 3657093 Schmuck Raker
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Golly, I've collected two thirds of all(total of three) junks so far. One individual I should wager.

[EDIT: Kudos to Nmewn for his losing effort, one third ain't bad]

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:27 | 3657200 Things that go bump
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Look at them as a badge of honor. You've bothered somebody.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:57 | 3657154 XitSam
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Just like Bart Chilton and the CFTC were going to "investigate" silver manipulation.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:24 | 3657099 kchrisc
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Hey a guillotine list. Thanks.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:48 | 3657692 S5936
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Guillotine is really good but I prefer the Mussolini treatment , up close and personal , you know .

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:25 | 3657103 samsara
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It makes my heart glad to see the general comments on Yahoo news about this article.

Lawmakers: Terrorists change tactics after leaks

Forget the article, you already know the angle.  Just scroll down to the comments.

I feel a change in the force.  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:29 | 3657112 samsara
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Thanks I knew their title seemed wrong....  Good Job.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:29 | 3657111 Yes_Questions
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 "I think it’s important to understand that you can’t have 100 percent security and then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We’re going to have to make some choices as a society."


With all respect due, Mr. President, I think its MORE important for us to understand the motivation for your complete 180 on this subject.  Before the plebs go American Spring on you and your bosses, you are going to have to do much, much better than this.


Unless, of course you really WANT to see those nifty little provisions of NDAA put to use in the field for real.


I guess we'll know soon enough.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:37 | 3657116 lolmao500
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In other news...

Operation Northern Storm: Syrian army plans assault on Aleppo

The assault on rebel-held parts of the city is expected to begin within days, if not hours.

While our allies are ALREADY arming the terrorists...

French-Saudi arming effort now taking place along Turkish-Syrian border this has led to temporary shutdown of all border points

Won't be long now before NATO planes start bombing the shit out of Syria... and then Assad starts launching missiles at Turkey and Israel... and then who knows what Russia's 15 warships in the eastern mediterannean will do. Or what NKorea/China will do in their corner of the world while people are distracted.

U.S. estimates between 100 & 150 people have died to date from chemical weapons attacks. Says multiple, independent streams of information."

But eh, let's forget about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS that have been handicaped, deformed, killed or made sick so far and those that will in the future thanks to America's use of DU in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and soon to be, Syria... the modern day agent orange that nobody wants to hear about...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 14:36 | 3658975 el Gallinazo
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U.S. estimates between 100 & 150 people have died to date from chemical weapons attacks. Says multiple, independent streams of information."


Yeah, I heard that Saddam had transferred his imaginery chemical WMD to Assad who is now killing imaginery civilians with them.  It's all kinda like FarmVille.  It does appear however that the al CIAda rebels are killing real people with chemical weapons.  It all gives me a pain between my ears.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:41 | 3657132 Schmuck Raker
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#23  "He's a high school drop out, so we only paid him $120,000.00 a year and gave him a security clearance your comatose grandmother isn't worthy of."

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:49 | 3657146 Overfed
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Dude, you seriously have a stalker or sumthin'.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:52 | 3657152 Schmuck Raker
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Cool, huh?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:01 | 3657167 IndyPat
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Wait for it.....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:53 | 3657156 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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I got you Scmuck Raker...and agree, it's pathetic

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:55 | 3657158 Schmuck Raker
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"#5 U.S. Senator Al Franken: "I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people.""

Damn... sell out much, Al?

It's been all down hill since Davis left.... tsk, tsk.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:06 | 3657743 notadouche
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I liked him better when he was wearing a sattelite on his head giving mobil reports back to the SNL news team.  

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:17 | 3657780 therearetoomany...
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who said those guys were funny in the first place, typically it was during their 'skits' that I would usually succumb to my long night of heavy boozing and marijuana smoking and pass fast asleep til morning.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:11 | 3657181 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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JFK is rolling in his nearly 50 year old grave. Maybe it's up to US to make him smile

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:21 | 3657193 IndyPat
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When were they supposed to let us know what was in that sealed report?
Wouldn't that be this Nov?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:11 | 3657183 Lady Heather...UNCLE
Lady Heather...UNCLE's picture in 'us'  not USA

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:32 | 3657210 Bastiat
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They are at the point where they are just going to keep doing whatever they want--we see it in the financial sector, right out in the open.  They believe, perhaps rightly, that there is no way to constrain, stop or bring them to justice. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:34 | 3657213 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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OT in NZ I have never really watched baseball or gridiron or ice hockey or basketbal. But (through illness) I have been watching the Heat vs Spurs gig. VERY impressed with the skill and more importantly, the quality of the sportsmen as people. Sport is a good reflection of a nation's character. So, in my previous pejorative comments toward America, I want to say, it is your MIC and state security apparatus and politicians  to which I direct my opprobrium. America has SO many fine we (as in the 'free' world) need a John Connor to galvanise them/us.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 03:46 | 3657418 Zosynspiracy
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Heat vs. Spurs = quality sportsment?  That's about the stupidest shit I've ever heard.  Go crawl back into whatever sheep rectum you crawled out of.  The NBA is nothing but overpaid, overhyped, thugs and losers.  If it wasn't for the dumbed down American people these guys would be homeless radio hacks begging to wash windows for crack. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:00 | 3657724 S5936
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+ 10 for dead on analysis of NBA felons

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:58 | 3657266 thruid
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everyone of the politicians quoted above should be tarred and feathered


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 01:00 | 3657271 thruid
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This is why both the left AND the right attacked Ron Paul !  He should have been President GOD DAMN IT !


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 01:00 | 3657272 thruid
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Now we have a bunch of GOD DAMN NAZI's running the show !

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 01:07 | 3657276 thruid
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What's the use of National Security to protect a fascist state ?  That is what those dumb ass politicians fail to grasp.  If we must live with a Big Brother surveillance state then we have already lost without a war. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:19 | 3657784 el Gallinazo
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Maybe we have lost without a war, but they haven't.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 03:42 | 3657416 Zosynspiracy
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So no quote from that shistain McCain?  Wow I'm surprised....he's usually the biggest f'ing loud mouth moron out of all the politicians. 

If fucks like him and our turd of a President want war in Syria they can send their snotty little bitch daughters over there to pound sand and swallow terrorist girth. 

It's sad.......honestly look at the leaders we have running this pathetic country we call the top of the list is a fucking completely incompetent, lousy, loser, turd of a President with zero credibility except that of a community organizer do nothing Senator from IL with a f'ing Muslim name. 

Next we have clowns like McCain, McConnell, Reid, King, etc.  I mean look at these slobs.  They represent the most powerful country on Earth?  Who's next........Fat fuck Christie in the White House?  The entire leadership of America is one big JOKE! 

Feinstein, Pelosi, Boxer?  LMAO!  The circus doesn't end.  I wish Putin would stand up to Amerika and put Obongo in his fucking place.  Same thing with Netanwahoo!  Would someone please take these clowns out!  How you like them apples NSA?  Shove that shit up your terrorist watching phone list you fascist stazi douchebags!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 04:08 | 3657424 mrdenis
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The Fox has left the henhouse ....I repeate the FOX has left the henhouse U read me? 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 04:21 | 3657432 The Wedge
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Fact: The Supreme Court of the United States, in more than one decision, held that the fourth amendment cannot be construed to prevent warrant-less electronic surveillance with respect to national security. See one here United States v. United States District Court, 407 U.S. 297 (1972)

National Security is the the umbrella in which those who claim it's legality shelter themselves. It's also known as the, 'constitution is not a suicide pact' argument. These decisions would have to be overturned to begin to turn back the tide. Even if congress passed a law circumventing the ability of the Federal Government to legally collect and use mass electronic data, it could be struck down with the precedence of these cases. Even still, if you could find or create the legal framework to dismantle this information gathering network, would that really work? Wouldn't they just keep doing it anyway? What level of dismantling would it take? What if they just pinky swear? 

What will you think when they arrest Mr. Snowden and try him? Will you root for an acquittal? Even though it's clear that he likely broke the law in releasing classified information. Many, including myself, will suffer cognitive dissonance in this issue. 

Bottom line, it's unlikely the government will ever give up the power to snoop. Quite frankly, this is a power government has already taken and the expectation of privacy is only recognized in narrow instances. Believe it or not, there is no right to privacy in the constitution and very little in jurist prudence. Your government see's these issues much differently than you or I and it appears that many are waking up to realize these differences. So to be clear, this is not a debate, at least between you and your government, this is government justifying it's actions.

Violence will only exacerbate the peoples predicament. Only non-violent, legal action will suffice. Violence could destroy the very thing we are fighting for; the constitution.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:16 | 3657530 Ayn NY
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The right to privacy wasn't seen as something that needed to be included in the constitution. The constitution enumerates the powers of the government - what it can and cannot do. The right to privacy is implicit, or really the whole document is meaningless. However, if you are unsure of that, I believe that the fourth amendment covers any ambiguity on that subject. I also believe that property rights could also be seen as a privacy issue.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:30 | 3658414 Lost Word
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Strange how the "Constitutional" right to privacy was the Supreme Court basis for the "right" to an Abortion.

The Government should be aborted.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 04:50 | 3657450 Svendblaaskaeg
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Keith Alexander:"We do not see a tradeoff between security and liberty."

"We the people"??? - I think not

Tonto: What you mean "We", white man?"


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:16 | 3657483 Mototard at Large
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I wonder if any of these politicians and bureaucrats ever ask themselves the question:  How will this statement make me look when the mob is at my door with pitchforks?


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:39 | 3657560 stiler
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Carney, in saying the things 0 had changed from Bush Admin cited, torture, etc, etc, wiretapping, but didn't actually say 0 had changed the wiretapping aspect. If someone went back to the transcript I think you'd find it true.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:49 | 3657568 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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In a court room once for a "ticket" which was subsequently dismissed, a very large court room with a judge in black robes sitting high on a tiered dais, surrounded by armed bailiffs, thinking -- WTF am I doing here, I did not do anything beyond encounter an over zealous police officer driven by an over zealous precinct captain driven by an over zealous councilman etc (and I met with all of them by the way which is how it was dismissed, ah politics is grand) -- I looked down at the back of the bench in front of me -- and the benches were strangely like church pews -- and scrawled into the wood, crudely, as if with a sharp barb on a pair of handcuffs were three lines :

F-ck da police

F-ck da judge

F-ck da law

True story. Now that's alienation. It was offered by someone who had probably been big kicked around for quite some time.

It was all for his own good, don't you know?


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 08:06 | 3657591 Crassus
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My favorite gem is from top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Dutch Ruppersburger (D-Md): "If you have to find a needle in a haystack, you need the haystack."

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:46 | 3657774 rwe2late
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People have to understand Orwellian newspeak better.

In 2007 Obama said "No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient."

Now the law will be ignored whenever convenient.

Obama also said it is "a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand." Obviously, he was referring to the royal "we", meaning by that what he himself demanded and cherished.

 Thus, "no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens" means all the wiretapping will be made "legal".

 "No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime" means everyone is now a suspect.

"No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war", (but of course Obama does not regard his wars as "misguided").

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 09:20 | 3657788 therearetoomany...
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I mean, I would ramp up a war with some Muslims so that I could a) distract the american 'people' and b) create some more 'jihadist' actions in the US.   b) would certainly show the necessity of the super spying network.   No?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:28 | 3658157 waterhorse
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#13 Dianne Feinstein, the chairwoman of the Senate intelligence committee: "There is no more direct or honest person than Jim Clapper."

Putrid.  So one lying political whore tells me another lying political whore is "honest".  LMAO.  Does anyone else find "Senate" and "intelligence" in the same sentence to be an oxymoron?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:33 | 3658170 waterhorse
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#22 The White House website: "My administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration."

Here let me correct that:  "We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration within the constraints of a totalitarian setting."

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:25 | 3658706 Winston Smith 2009
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"Apparently many of our politicians misunderstood when they read the novel 1984 by George Orwell."

Why do you believe that these idiots have read it?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:29 | 3660706 Ckierst1
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Makes a nice Owners' Manual???

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 16:31 | 3659329 red_pill
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(NaturalNews) All across the mainstream media, you're hearing Republicans and Democrats accuse Edward Snowden of "treason" for blowing the whistle on the NSA surveillance scandal. Feinstein, Boehner, Bolton and others are all joining in the chorus of the absurd by screaming about how Edward Snowden is a "traitor" to the United States because he betrayed the nation by disclosing highly sensitive secrets.

But at the same time, the NSA claims it isn't spying on you at all. National intelligence director James Clapper says, "The notion that we are trolling through everyone's emails, and voyeuristically reading them, or listening to everyone's phone calls, is on its face absurd. We couldn't do it even if we wanted to, and I assure you, we don't want to."

So then how is Edward Snowden guilty of treason if everything he leaked isn't true?

See, treason can only apply if Snowden's leaks are factually correct. So by claiming he's guilty of treason, people like Sen. Feinstein are actually admitting his leaked PRISM slides are, in fact, correct and true. That's why they're so angry about it...

Because someone can't be guilty of treason for making up their own fictional slides and handing them to the Guardian. That's not treason... that's just a prank. And according to the NSA, Snowden is engaged in nothing more than a giant prank. James Clapper and everyone else in the intelligence apparatus denies the government is spying on you at all. Therefore, Snowden can't be engaged in "treason" because the information he leaked isn't real.

In other words, the two statements that "Snowden is a traitor" and "the information he leaked isn't true" can't both be accurate.

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