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By 2025 the drone industry will employ 100,000 people and be worth $82 billion globally, according to the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International. That’s impressive considering that the Federal Aviation Administration has effectively grounded the commercial drone business in the U.S. for at least another two years while it studies the impact on safety and personal privacy of countless flying machines in the airways.

Security Drones
Deutsche Bahn, Germany’s railway company, will deploy a fleet of md4-1000 “quad copters” to police its train depots and maintenance yards to protect them from vandals and graffiti artists, a menace that inflicts $10 million in damages annually. Developed by Microdrones in Siegen, Germany, the drone is equipped with a high-resolution, infrared camera and operates in near silence. It can zip around DB property at heights of up to 500 feet and broadcast live footage of what it sees to security officers on the ground.

Catching Poachers
Security officers at India’s Kaziranga National Park recently announced they will operate camera-equipped, unmanned aerial vehicles to patrol the 480-square-kilometer (185-square-mile) reserve. With rhino horns fetching up to $65,000 per kilogram, the poaching problem has quickly spread across Asia and into Africa.

Better Than Goodyear?
In 2012, Rupert Murdoch’s Fox Sports Australia first flew an eight-propellered AUV equipped with an HD video camera around a stadium to broadcast a live cricket match. It did so again this year for rugby. As you can see from the video, the drone gets pretty close to the action—at one point, almost too close.

Drones for News Gathering
The University of Nebraska-Lincoln has created the Drone Journalism Lab, and the University of Missouri is running a course called “drone journalism.” (Research institutions have an easier time getting FAA clearance for drone use than mere civilians or normal business operators.)

Protecting the Grapes
In Bordeaux, winemaker Château Luchey-Halde teamed with French aeronautical company Fly-n-Sense to deploy the Scancopter, a €15,000 camera-equipped UAV, to scan its vines regularly for the onset of disease. The Scancopter can fly as low as 1 cm off the ground to take images of the lower-hanging vines and several feet above to capture a detailed aerial view.

Killing Pests
Japanese farmers use Yamaha’s unmanned helicopter, the RMax, to spray precise coats of insecticides on crops. The upside is that less pesticide wafts into nearby fields. As of 2011, the tiny unmanned helicopters were spraying 30 percent of Japan’s rice paddies. Experts estimate that farmers will be the biggest users of drones.

Along the Pipeline
Last autumn, BP ran test flights of a patrol drone in Alaska’s Prudhoe Bay. It flew above and alongside miles of exposed pipeline to determine if there were any signs of vulnerabilities. It’s not easy to monitor the pipeline during the Arctic winter, but a low-flying unmanned drone doesn’t mind the cold and wind.

Special Delivery
The tacocopter was a hoax, but the promise of drone-powered “automated delivery services” is still getting serious attention. San Francisco's raised funds a year ago for Project: Blue Sky, which tested the use of aerial drones to make urgent deliveries (think medical supply drops) in harsh climates. Never mind that they tested it at last year’s Burning Man festival; it reportedly caught the eye of entrepreneurs Elon Musk and Google’s Sergey Brin.

For Sale by Drone
Tech-savvy real estate agents used drones to help them sell palatial listings until the feds shut them down. In Australia, though, if you have a mansion to sell, you usually hand the listing to an agent who knows both the market and the finer points of drone real estate photography.

Source: Bloomberg BusinessWeek


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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:09 | 3654295 BLOTTO
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When i played COD on Xbox, that was the 1st thing i shot down (UAV) with a rocket launcher.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:17 | 3654324 nugjuice
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Welcome to the surveillance state. Please be advised conversations are recorded for quality assurance and training purposes.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:41 | 3654412 iDealMeat
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What a bunch of bullshit this article is..   By 2025 everyone will already be catalog and monitored in real-time via they're implanted iChip.  And no one will give a shit..


Scratch that..  A small few who still believe in freedom and have kids outside the Matrix will be the justification for the Trillion $$ drone industry..


Gonna be fun to watch too..  They'll be 50 drones all competing for the "target".  Like ambulances today.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:45 | 3654429 Manthong
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What a relief..

I was beginning to think I would never be recognized,

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:52 | 3654466 Monedas
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This smacks of the dreaded .... CRONY DRONISM .... we all feared !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:55 | 3654477 Rick Blaine
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So, by "drone" we could literally be talking about a toy remote-controlled plane or helicopter (which have been readily available to the public for literally decades now) with a web cam or some shit duct taped to it????

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:27 | 3654581 kaiserhoff
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Where's my damn fly swatter, Leroy?  Leroy...  Good help these days.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:30 | 3654593 krispkritter
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I'd be more worried about the EBT-drones that appear when the replenishment stops. And I anticipate that will be long before 2025.

Scope and Range!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:34 | 3654604 Joe Davola
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Once again, Michael Crichton's prescience shows through:

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:51 | 3654660 Manthong
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In this case, Boob Biden had the basic thought train right, but that double barrel aspect needs to yield to a street sweep.

That is how CWis works  mini-guns yada yada..  moar is always better when fending off or scrubbing space.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:22 | 3655099 Herd Redirectio...
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Israel, leading manufacturer of drones...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:36 | 3656597 TwoShortPlanks
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Too many Drones in America and not nearly enough Worker Bees.

What do you think that adds up to?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:37 | 3654612 LeisureSmith
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Learn how to throw a cast net.

And you'll be drone-fishing like a pro.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:24 | 3655771 A82EBA
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Thanks for the video, I gotta try that..looks easier

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:14 | 3654539 snr-moment
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Cheap junk ones already on sale at Barnes and Noble.  Includes camera.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:28 | 3654587 kaiserhoff
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anthrax aerosol version extra.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:48 | 3654436 smlbizman
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it also appears that a sister industry of shooting down drones will emerge........

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:16 | 3654544 cougar_w
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Drone Wars.

No. Seriously. I can easily see someone coming out with a heat-seeking signal-jamming search-n-destroy version of one of these for perimeter defense.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:19 | 3654333 slaughterer
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:24 | 3654354 doomandbloom
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Dont DRONE me BRO!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:31 | 3654370 Joe Sixpack
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Drones are here to stay. Rather than cower in fear, get your own drone. .gov has guns, so should you. .gov has computers. So should you. .gov has drones... so should you. Also, there are counter measures, defenses againsst UAVs.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:34 | 3654384 Pladizow
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"By 2025 the drone industry will employ 100,000...."

How many will it have killed by then and what % will be American? 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:35 | 3654389 Joe Sixpack
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<<1% American.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:20 | 3654338 BlueCollaredOne
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Secondary weapon should always be a shotty.  LRN to killstreak

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:10 | 3654297 10mm
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It's all fun and games till ones up your ass as a victim of mistaken identity.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:19 | 3654336 firstdivision
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Banks should use drones with dildos attached to them.  That way they can fuck us 24/7

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:59 | 3654491 malikai
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They don't need drones to fuck us 24/7.

But everyone else does..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:20 | 3654340 Awakened Sheeple
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We don't have to worry about mistaken identity. ZHers are first on the list.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:47 | 3654652 LeisureSmith
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The RectumInspector2000 is there to ascertain your identity precisely so that you are not a victim of mistaken identity. Just spread your cheeks and let it do it's job.

RectumInspector2000...It's form the government and it's here to help.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:11 | 3654299 medium giraffe
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DIY net gun.  All Your Drone Are Belong To Me.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:00 | 3654691 Matt
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Effectiveness shooting at a moving target 500 feet above you?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:34 | 3655168 zerozulu
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I wonder (in the NWO) why he has a netgun? Just shoot the fucker.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:11 | 3654301 Seasmoke
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I am sure there are a lot of 2 legged pests.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:31 | 3654372 Shell Game
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DNA is soo twentieth century.  Rise machines, rise...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:12 | 3654302 TheEdelman
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Drone Technician job requirements:


Atleast one felony (conviction preferred).

Worked as an Merc within the past tens years.

Does not understand the meaning of "plausible deniability"


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:40 | 3654407 CrashisOptimistic
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See this is not how it plays out.

First, pilots are put out of work.  Both on board airplanes, and remote control types, because they will be autonomously programmed.

Then don't plan on repair tech jobs.  They will be cheaper than man hours.  If one breaks, you replace it.

All part of the process of destroying jobs.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:12 | 3654303 francis_sawyer
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"By 2025 the drone industry..."


More 'analog' predicting horseshit by the same types who publish OMB 'projections'...

Here's a prediction:

"By 2025... 100,000 former 'drone' wannabees are picking thru garbage cans wondering what the hell went wrong with their "Orwellian I-Robot Utopia"...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:21 | 3654343 kito
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i hope you are right FS, but what makes you sure of it?? how do we go from here to there (your "there")?................

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:35 | 3654387 Shell Game
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Something tells me the coming energy (oil/gas) and commodity (batteries, etc.) supply collapse will put a lot of 'plans' on hold...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:38 | 3654398 kito
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i doubt that would be the catalyst................these drones are getting lighter, smaller and coupled with battery technology, would be very easy to keep in the air for extended periods of time..............................

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:00 | 3654492 Shell Game
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Calling bullshit.  Plastic = oil.  Battery tech currently is piss poor and will not break through in time.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:04 | 3654706 Matt
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Batteries and vehicles made out of carbon. Who knows, maybe even the electric motors can be made of carbon. All printed at home using the litescribe function on your consumer DVD burner.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:15 | 3655724 minosgal
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as long as the grid stays up, drones might fly along power lines and 'harvest' electromagnetic energy with a small induction coil.

Bet the power companies would just loooove that

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:40 | 3654411 Kirk2NCC1701
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Spock tells me that your gas-guzzling SUV will be 'on hold' long before these gas misers will.  It's you who's headed Into Darkness, not them.  Sorry.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:52 | 3654454 Shell Game
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I welcome the darkness.  I doubt they do.  


By the way, was that post just a marketing ploy for your new movie coming out, Kirk?  ;)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:09 | 3654522 francis_sawyer
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"i hope you are right FS, but what makes you sure of it?? how do we go from here to there (your "there")?"

Well, let me take a wild guess:

- End the Fed

- Stop printing $85 billion a month out of thin air to kick the "coupon can" forward

- recall all military bases, starting with these ones:

- Elect Ron Paul as President [or Edward Snowden for that matter]

- Go on a Bilderberg, or Tri-Lat, or Club of Rome, or CFR witchhunt [that amounts to something]

- Piss in Poppy Bush's lobster bisque

Shit like that...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:12 | 3654304 Anasteus
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By 2025 the drone industry will go to the trash dump of history together with the existing ponzi-oligarchic system.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:12 | 3654306 NotApplicable
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Drone journalism? These kids can't even drive the fucking news van!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:12 | 3654307 JJ McApe
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drones... making society better since 1974

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:13 | 3654309 ThisIsBob
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These things are great.  I am surprised that terrorists havent bought a couple of cases from Toys-R-Us, tied on some explosives and dropped them into the green zone

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:15 | 3654316 IridiumRebel
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That will be happening soon enough. like anything, there are numerous benefits and unintended consequences. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:19 | 3654551 Aurora Ex Machina
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This underlines the massive fraud that is the security theater.

Any smart individual possesses multiple ways to cripple infrastructure, harm people and otherwise "be a dick". The majority simply don't, because they're not sociopaths and they have normative standards of communication / matured levels of risk / reward reasoning. The fact is, most crime is emotion / economic based (with a dash of substance abuse, largely alcohol, adding to the mix), and nothing to do with ideology. That's why it takes the FBI budget so many millions to find the low IQ muppets they need to run their phony terror plots; people are rarely wired this way unless under the thumb of fundamentalist Religion or extreme ideological blinkers.

A grown up society would embrace drones, let the counter-measure tech catch up and get on with living and use them when needed (with the most annoying legal cases being the paparazzi abusing the shit out of them for celebrities).


The USA? Expect militarized drones, no domestic drones without extreme security checked licenses and $100 billion spent on lobbying. Madness.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:01 | 3654698 Five8Charlie
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"Any smart individual possesses multiple ways to cripple infrastructure, harm people and otherwise 'be a dick'."

And the more our society piles technology on top of technology, the easier it becomes to kick it all over. I'm really glad most intelligent people aren't sociopaths.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:03 | 3655298 Aurora Ex Machina
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The solutions to this are both bottom-up and top-down (and not in the old ways). Look, for instance, at the difference growing up in Detroit to Irving, Texas.

Want to bet odds on which one breeds the more radical, prone to violence individual?

As for your last comment. The US army has done a lot of work on 'natural killers', based on the famous study by Swank & Marchland's "COMBAT NEUROSES  Development of Combat Exhaustion" [Paywalled]. There's literally stacks of papers on the subject. Problem is, they mostly take the wrong lesson: there's the psychopaths, and then there's a smaller group who are such effective killers because of extreme empathetic bonds to their own comrades. They're the mirror image of psychopaths, ironically fulfilling identical roles in combat.

I'll give you a hint who actually makes the better leaders: not the sociopaths (although only a tiny minority of sociopaths are actually killers / violent) or psychopaths (who rarely, if ever, actually end up in non-violent hierarchies, and even then lack the strategic planning to rise high).


I'll also give you a hint who the sociopaths and psychopaths strive hardest to eliminate as their greatest threat. Oliver Stone (no matter what you think of him) actually made this the central point of his Vietnam film Platoon. Few people realize this, of course.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:13 | 3654310 IridiumRebel
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More jobs lost to automation....that is what I see.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:55 | 3654478 Shell Game
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Agreed.  But the algo-bots sure didn't like that answer...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:00 | 3654497 IridiumRebel
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the truth is the truth

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:32 | 3654597 Shell Game
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Aye, and keep preaching it, friend.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:47 | 3655580 IridiumRebel
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you too, good sir.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:13 | 3654311 denverdolomte
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"Okay, okay, as long as they don't overstep or over reach the strong regulations Congress sets forth"



Ohhh Wait...




Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:15 | 3654314 firstdivision
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I cannot wait for the HFT Drones that hover outside the NYSE

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:16 | 3654318 compound interest
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good selection, but this was left out:


pizza delivery by drones (seriously)


from bloomberg's youtube channel

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:26 | 3654579 Aurora Ex Machina
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When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:
microcode (software)
high-speed pizza delivery ~ Snow Crash

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:18 | 3654327 fonzannoon
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where is thismarketisrigged? I am concerned he had a stroke today.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:19 | 3654330 SillySalesmanQu...
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Your Domino's pizza will be delivered by drone/copter one day.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:17 | 3654549 snr-moment
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Excellent. No tip required.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:19 | 3654331 Cognitive Dissonance
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"War and war toys have always been good for bidness." - Tony Saprano

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:24 | 3654332 JustObserving
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The coming 30,000 drones over America will cost about a trillion dollars over 10 years.  

The Federal Aviation Administration is working towards putting the finishing touches on rules and regulations for widespread domestic drone use, and the agency expects as many as 30,000 UAVs will be in America’s airspace by the decade’s end

In other news, Ron Paul on Snowden:  "I'm worried about somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or a drone missile.”

Russia may deem civil servants’ use of Gmail, Facebook ‘high treason’
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:35 | 3654390 Kirk2NCC1701
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USSA may deem it 'high treason' to not use Gmail, FB or Twitter.  Or shop on eBay or Amazon.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:19 | 3654334 Inthemix96
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By 2025?

Hehehehehe, fuck off, if we get to 2025 without a major war or outright collapse I will eat my hat my shoes and my fucking coat.

I see someone let the fucking idiots our for the afternoon again eh.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:20 | 3654342 firstdivision
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All these drones and not a single worker or queen.  Expansion of middle-management.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:22 | 3654345 Divine Wind
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Great application areas.

This is getting interesting.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:26 | 3654357 Scro
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In the not to distant future every piece of information, every sq mile and every person will be monitored.

Soon robots or unmanned vehicles with artificial intelligence (and some will be armed) will monitor the airports, freeways and churches.

A national identity card or mark will be required for travel and all purchases.

Serve your earthly master or be eliminated.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:33 | 3654382 QE4eva
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Pick up that can, citizen!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:38 | 3654399 medium giraffe
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You have 20 seconds to comply...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:28 | 3654362 OpTwoMistic
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Put bulls eye on them

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:34 | 3654385 1000yrdstare
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Enders game!....they can tell all the kids its just a game!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:35 | 3654391 Shell Game
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One of the best Sci-fi books ever written.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:36 | 3654392 jon dough
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Maybe this can be the theme song...

Phil Collins - Droned


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:37 | 3654396 docmac324
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We'll all have our own.

Pseudo traffic.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:44 | 3654408 Rick Blaine
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"In the year 2525, if man is still alive...

If woman can survive, they may find..."


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:42 | 3654419 azengrcat
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Technology - Deal wit it

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:46 | 3654430 GoatHerder
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where can I buy mine my neighbors are pissing me off.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:09 | 3654517 Monedas
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Drones equiped with weed whacker capability for mowing your lawn !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:46 | 3654432 SillySalesmanQu...
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Now I know that I have lived too long....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:50 | 3654446 kralizec
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Was that Jim Carey's head coming out of that Rino's ass?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:53 | 3654464 news printer
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You see? drones are good

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:52 | 3654465 NotAMathWhiz
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One of the benefits of the Yamaha system in Japan is that it is nuclear powered, so it needs no internal power source.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:59 | 3654468 CaptainSpaulding
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At the rate i am going, By 2025 I will be food for the mother loving rats

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:55 | 3654474 Monedas
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Wanted :  Drone mechanics .... Harley Davidson experience is a resume enhancer !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:07 | 3654515 shovelhead
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Hell, where else can you work with Aryan Nation & SS tats as a career enhancer?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:55 | 3654480 Lendo
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I refer to most Americans as "office drones" since they're overweight and have average IQs.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:19 | 3654552 Monedas
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We refer to you as a fire hydrant .... when we walk our drones !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:00 | 3654494 Duc888
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I'd bet the underground anti-drone business will dwarf that.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:17 | 3654548 Monedas
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Polish drones .... used for monitoring cellar dwellers in the Chicago area !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:01 | 3654495 potlatch
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I for one look forward to our coming autonomous and unstoppable sky robot overlords.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:04 | 3654501 Kirk2NCC1701
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So who makes the Mil versions?  Boeing, Northrop Grumman, United Technologies.  Not a secret.  With an array of subsidiaries and subcontractors providing assemblies (Comm, Gimbal & Optics, Weapons) for integration into their Frames.  Also not a secret, but takes some digging.   Drones fascinate me.

Frames?  Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, United Technologies.  Oh, and don't forget Israeli companies, i.e. ELBIT.

Comm?  Since it's well known that Rockwell Collins (Cedar Rapids, Iowa) has been making Comm for the DoD for decades, it's a safe bet they are doing it for the drones too.  In fact I'm certain of it.

Gimbals?  That's trickier, but let's see... How about Cloud Cap Tech (subsid. of United Tech) in Oregun?

IR Optics?  That's easy:  FLIR.  Also in Oregun.  And Elbit for Israeli products.

Weapons?  The Usual Suspect of US companies and global MODs (Merchants Of Death).  The Military Channel is good for that.

A lot of Technician, Engineering, SW, Industrial Design, Project Management, Supply Chain Management, NPI, Mfg, Sales & Marketing jobs.  But you'd better not hang out on ZH if you want to work for them.  Seriously.

p.s. Was this Value Add or Actionable Intelligence for you, or do you bitchez prefer to Keep It Real with smart-ass remarks? /s

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:24 | 3654573 Paveway IV
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It's a bunch of tin-foil hat nonsense. Please come back in a couple of years with some classified PowerPoint slides if you want anyone to believe this. If you can be vetted properly on CNN and Twitter at that time and are sufficiently kill-list worthy, then maybe...


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:35 | 3654605 LongPAU
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That's all possible from the private sector. The only part that is tricky is the onboard intelligent flight control.


DJI Innovations makes the best private-sector flight controller, IMO. There are others, but they don't provide the reliability and features of DJI's parts.


Check out 'FPS Russia Drone' on YouTube: there's a civvie drone popping mannakins with NATO rounds, blowing up a car, etc. Funny guy...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:40 | 3654725 Five8Charlie
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Gimbals? Not since the eighties.

Position and attitude sensing is all on-board the chips.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:53 | 3655587 Kirk2NCC1701
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You seem knowledgeable.  You should apply -- and tell them to get rid of the Gimbals.  ;-)

Of course you need Gimbals!  How do you think you keep the Guns & Optics Payload on target, while the drone is flying?  You confuse RPY (that's "Roll, Pitch, Yaw") sensing of the drone itself with gimballed payload.  And Position sensing of drone is via Mil-grade GPS.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:53 | 3655911 Five8Charlie
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Yup, you're right. I'm from the side of aviation were the payload is inside the fuselage and is expected to still be there at the end of the flight, not hung on the wings and only going along part of the way....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:04 | 3654955 shovelhead
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I'll scout, you climb the fence.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 03:07 | 3693775 susu
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hello there,

drones fascinate me too but rather as an investment opportunity (not necessarily only for military purposes but civilian as well).

I see you only mention US producers, what about European (BAE , Dassault, Finmeccanica, Cassidian, Skunk Works, etc) or Asian producers ?

I have an intresting article (Salon du Bourget = aviation meeting) about why European producers are lagging behind but its in French.




Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:04 | 3654502 tony wilson
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whats the beef bitches?

as lord rothschild once said lovers of satan

evil do ers.

if you have nothing to hiden you have nuffink to feer init.

only fear it self

embrace the lord down below and watch him float about up dere.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:05 | 3654510 orangegeek
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Where are the hand held anti-drone guns?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:08 | 3654516 Payne
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Wait untill they start deliviering drugs across borders with drones.  It will not be long now.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:12 | 3654533 Monedas
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Cannisters of drugs with parachutes are already being shot accross the border .... using refurbished puffed rice canons !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:07 | 3654970 shovelhead
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I always thought those Quakers were a shady bunch...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:13 | 3654536 A. Magnus
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DRONES: Because skeet shooting gets just plain boring without a little challenge...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:27 | 3654585 LongPAU
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Clay pigeons are slow and follow a simple ballistic trajectory.


Drones move along at 40-75MPH and follow the terrain. If you're in the ready stance, pointed in the correct general direction, then sure... I think I can hold a ready stance with a Mossberg for maybe 10 whole minutes.


That's not a "little challenge", that's a pipe dream.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:31 | 3655149 Matt
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Iron Dome. Laser turrets with SkyGaurd. Or cyberwarfare, and just hijack the drone, since it will be running on a wireless connection unless fully autonomous. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:20 | 3654560 Monedas
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We have the drones .... where are the well regulated militias .... we were promised ?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:22 | 3654564 LongPAU
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As a drone owner, I laugh at the article and many of the comments.


Interesting how some people fear anything complex or "new" (there's nothing new about drones). That's what the article is trying to play upon, and that's funny: stir up the geezers...


By 2025, personal drones will be as commonplace as the Roomba. They will watch your house when you're away (mine already does), and they'll deliver lunch to your office. Mine can.


Anything that can be automated will be automated. The #1 limitation to automation is old-think: that incurious complacency which seems to be the domain of TV addicts and the elderly. Choose a career path accordingly.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:38 | 3654620 Barnaby
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I think you're being a tad harsh; I consider the PC to be my ugly, retarded stepbrother, yet most of my contemporaries are shtraight programmed to be technophobic. Movies and media have made them fear the "rise of the machines."

When one realizes how easy and accessible the top of his roof is, he considers placing a camera there. When one looks at the copter as an extension -- a platform -- of this idea, one simply needs to develop the application. That you already have is commendable, and in you I find a kindred spirit. My little drone will one day have a mind of its own.

For every platform there are them who exploit it, and them who fight it. Drones open a career path for either bent. Before too long, there will be a growth industry in all things Faraday, jammer and EMP to counter all the surveillance. A balance will be achieved, people will be put to work, and a lot of pundits will have wasted lots of time bitching about it. Mission accomplished.

I agree with you. Innovate or intubate.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:28 | 3654586 Son of Loki
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News Corp's Rupert Murdoch files for divorce from wife


I wonder who the new little protege will be...he's probably jealous of Buffet's 28 year old "assistant."


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:41 | 3654592 are we there yet
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One day in the future one countries drone will attack another countries drone and drone combat will begin. The next stage then will be escilation to simi-autonomous drone swarms with the country having the best 'swarm combat' stratigy and technology being the winner.  Defense contractors with the best mathamaticians and programmers will rule then.  As swarm coordination technology advances and small relatively cheap flying drones move to coordinated ground attack, human ground fighters will be impractical for the lower technology combatant. These steps are inevitable over time.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:35 | 3655175 Matt
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Human ground fighters can blend in with the opposing civilian population. Cyberwarfare, EMP and energy weapons can pretty much nullify drone swarms. All the big boys have nuclear deterence, anyways; the only thing happening in the future that I see is more proxy wars.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:35 | 3654608 Crash Overide
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It's only a matter of time before someone develops a mini EMP gun that shoots out little balls/darts that burst and fry every electronic component in a 20 to 50 foot radius. There is always a countermeasure right? :)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:45 | 3654643 Barnaby
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And then there will be laws made to regulate the web of air above every property owner's residence. After that, might just as well talk in grunts and moos.

A better countermeasure would be to zap the CMOS like the Iranians did. Almost impossible to detect, looks like the EEPROM crapped out.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:46 | 3654648 are we there yet
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Imagine a game of laser tag or even laser skeet shooting with a drone flight pathing a clay piggon.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:47 | 3654653 Downtoolong
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I was just thinking along the lines of a Drone Hunting Safari.

Wouldn't it be great to have one mounted on a plaque above the fireplace  in your den? 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:48 | 3654655 Whatta
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I want to buy a drone with anti-drone offensive capabilities...i.e. being able to shoot down other drones that might cross my property.

Drone the droners.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 13:52 | 3654666 Aurora Ex Machina
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You're thinking too linearly. You can already use a WiFi to hack small commercial drones.


Google: git hub drone hack for numerous examples.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:04 | 3654683 samsara
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How about an SR71 Blackbird Drone.  Real turbine.



Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:29 | 3654798 Shed Boy
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I have 5 drones. Altough I prefer to call them "Radio Controlled Models". Been flying since the 70's. Worried about "drones"? Build your own....oh...wait. That takes a little skill and a little bit of brain power. I see why everybody is freaked out, they don't possess the abilities to build their own.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:14 | 3655025 shovelhead
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Mom said I can build one when I turn 12.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:39 | 3655852 Shed Boy
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Make sure you have Dad help you with the soldering. Mom would be mad if you burned the house down.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 14:48 | 3654870 Aurora Ex Machina
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Here's one more for you:

Turkish Police shoot down drone used to film them. (You'll also note: undercover police with spec'd gas masks)


Here's the flight prior to it being shot down. Pretty decent definition on it.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:43 | 3655870 Shed Boy
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It's filmed with a GoPro HD camera.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:39 | 3656811 Aurora Ex Machina
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Gotta love those guys (and yes, I got it - the place to go for Neu Wave Cultural Movements, this is the land of the Wild Things, don't spoil the broth)


But yeah, that's why drones shouldn't be stuck in MIC land.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 15:13 | 3655014 rustymason
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We'll need a new pesticide for these mosquito-drones.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:02 | 3655955 Downtoolong
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And, who wouldn’t want to give up their privacy for this?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:30 | 3656100 reTARD
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Thoreau already knew back in his day:

A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates, powder-monkeys, and all, marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences, which makes it very steep marching indeed...

Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power?...

The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus, etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others, as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders, serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as they rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God.

Excerpt from Henry David Thoreau's Resistance To Civil Government (Civil Disobedience)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:38 | 3656129 cynicalskeptic
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If you thought small town speed trap shitholes were bad before.... just wait.....

We've already reached the point where local municipalities and states are looking to milk revenue from everything possible - got a speeding ticket lately?  You're ponying up hundreds of dollars plus the impact on your auto insurance.....  The good old days of small town speed traps are almost quaint now in comparison to the fuck the public at large miondset now.  You've got speed traps, seat belt enforcement, cell phone use, along with speed cameras and stop light cameras.  Used to be you'd (rightly) get pulled over if driving erratically and checked for DUI - now you've got roadblocks where they stop EVERYONE and ask if you've had anything to drink (god forbid if you say yes) because ONE drink can be enough to put you over the legal limit these days - even if you are not the slightest bit 'impaired'.    I've seen local cops stop damn near every car going by a checkpoint and write up almost every car for SOMETHING.  It's all about revenue.

So just wait..... you'll be driving along in nowhere Montana doing 80 on an Interstate absolutely empty of cars and you get buzzed by a speed control drone swooping down to photo your license plate....  BAM - $300 fine.

And if you're a cute young female looking to get a tan without lines - sunbathing on a rooftop you THOUGHT was safe from prying eyes..... wanna bet those photos being passed around your local PD are the reason you're gettign smirks from cops lately?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:09 | 3658300 Shed Boy
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Next time you go through an intersection with a traffic light, look up. BAM! your picture has already been taken. Cameras are already everywhere, your a little late to the game. See, the thing is, we are already being watched and most of the sheep are oblivious to just how far it's already gone. Drones with cameras won't change anything. And in fact, I'd rather have drones with cameras then all the ones mounted at traffic lights because flying drones can't see in the rain, snow or fly when it's windy plus they break a lot and are hard to fly. The traffic cameras are 24/7 and rarely break. They are up close and personal and can read your license plate and send you a ticket when you run that red light without you even knowing it.

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