Snowden: Patriot Or Traitor? America Responds

Tyler Durden's picture

"I'm neither traitor nor hero. I'm an American," is how Snowden describes himself to the South China Morning Post, but, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released today, more Americans see the NSA Whistleblower as "Patriot" than "Traitor." Some 23 percent of those surveyed said former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden is a traitor while 31 percent said he is a patriot. Another 46 percent said they did not know.


As Reuters reports, the Reuters/Ipsos poll finds 35 percent of those surveyed said Snowden should not face charges while 25 percent said he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


The confusion reigns as some 45 percent of those surveyed say the program is acceptable under some circumstances, while 37 percent say it is completely unacceptable though only 6 percent say they have no objections to the program.


Source: Reuters

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g'kar's picture

Was this all another false flag psyop?

Dr. Engali's picture

I wouldn't rule it out.

g'kar's picture

Everything ("scandals") seemed to escalate from the first Benghazi hearings onward. Maybe it's just another page from Rules For Radicals cookbook. If they corner you on one scandal give them ten more so they can't concentrate on just one. Smell test probelms on all of it.

Dr. Engali's picture

That's funny because I was thinking the exact same thing. Just overwhelm and confuse system.

g'kar's picture

Yep....I first thought things were odd when they all of a sudden "found' those 3 girls locked away for 10 years in Ohio the day of the first Benghazi hearings which the media made the "News Story Of The Day" instead of the hearings.

idea_hamster's picture

Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it.  Mark Twain

philipat's picture

Forty-five percent think that PRISM is acceptable.

In a demoracy (Or a Constitutional Republic), you the Government you deserve.

strannick's picture

he says he's an American, and he's right. Those voting him ''traitor'' arent Americans. They just happen to live in the United States.

James_Cole's picture


It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.



jbvtme's picture

reuter's poll?  that's the first problem. what does the public cunnilingus display on the nsa/dhs by the senate hearing committee yesterday say?  i heard "internet security for our bank accounts".  so it's all worth it.  no?  plus, how many tax dollars have been allocated to the stenographer's pastry allowance and those ballsucking sycophants in the audience? my question is whether R2D2 milkowski or feinstein (how would you like her for your grandmother?) or i can't come out of the closet because i'm from montana tester were in defensive or offensive mode while reading their scripts...

strannick's picture

Henceforth, there will be no more elections. Only Rueters polls.

francis_sawyer's picture

Seriously no shit...


I'd have more faith in a Pravda poll...

Supernova Born's picture

I would have guessed this mystery would have been more easily decoded by the ZH audience (in particular on on all the web) only less quickly than Bernanke creates "money".

GetZeeGold's picture




Using all the scandals to ram immigration down our throats.


It's all about the illusion......time to breakout the handcuffs.


Rubio.....up yours.


McCain.....screw you.


Graham....give us your cell phone records you pimp.


Boenher.....find someplace to die.


Obama.....go to hell.



MisterMousePotato's picture

I don't think we're stickelers for form around here at ZeroHedge, but please, if you must ...

Bernanke.....fuck you.

kralizec's picture

This is a good list.  Don't forget about Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer et al...pretty much everybody in the Obongo Regime...bureaucrats...John Roberts and all but two or three of the SCOTUS clowns...etc...etc...


insanelysane's picture

I am unable to comprehend how a government that needs unlimited surveillance of their citizens for security reasons thinks it is a good idea to invite in more immigrants.  Wouldn't the secure thing be to deport all non-citizens and even some citizens?

BLOTTO's picture

Their is an agenda at play here...another smoke & mirror show with bits of truth and lies mixed in to confuse us.


Something doesnt exactly add up.


'They' are smarter than you & I think...

Stuck on Zero's picture

Congress consistently passes bills that have fewer than 5% support in the public.  We call that representation?



DaveyJones's picture

"was this another false flag psyop?"

we'll know for sure when they survey that question

DaveyJones's picture

no, they call it campaign funding

Lost Word's picture

An excuse for more surveillance and more control and more tyranny.

auntiesocial's picture

there are many folks that already knew about this, i personally just did not know it was called PRISM, all he did was wake up some of the MSM, but if history is any indicator, this story will lose steam as soon as we have a Monica, Britney or disaster to distract the sheep. 

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

I dont think we're sticklers for form

Gold bitchez..

tango's picture

Seriously no shit... I'd have more faith in a Pravda poll...

I surprised that not more consider PRISM or NSA spying to be "OK".  The vast majority has no idea what is going on besides what Aunt Suzy told cousin Rhianna at Sunday School last week.  They don't watch the news or read the papers  (or books) or are students of history and historical patterns.  

Someone on ZH is always knocking polls they don't agree with but they usually end up accurate.  Out of curiosity I've been talking to folks - UPS workers, guys painting house, financial advisor, friends, etc about their reaction and in a very affluent county with newspapers, talk radio, local news, internets, etc....most were clueless, misinformed or lost in Conspiracy Land.     

"They're opening my mail/ I hear a click on my phone /I heard they track us through glasses and a secret recorder"   "It's for the good of the nation/ we need to fight terrorists / they wouldn't do anything bad, etc"   "Yeah, I've heard about it - taxes or something?"  So yeah, I think the poll is probably dead on. 

noless's picture

This is why i don't bother talking to most people, because i know eventually it will come back as some twisted and bizarre rumor, most people have no idea what I'm talking about to begin with, pepper in some crazy, stupid and/or a little malice and suddenly a completely rational and fact based analysis twists into pointless or damaging thought lightning.

Oldrepublic's picture

re: james cole on Voltaire:

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

Voltaire had to spend three years in exile in London due to his opinions

PhysicalRealm's picture

I like this poll better:

Still MSM, but this one shows 69.5% think Snowden is a Patriot, 30.5% think he's a traitor.  It's still open, too - go vote.



francis_sawyer's picture

How about no fucking hack polls at all [on Constitutional matters]?

How about reserving polls to the realm of Dancing with the fucking stars?

How about not spying on people, and, everytime you decide you want to usurp power, you don't use your cronies to publish an op-ed in the NYTimes, Washington Post, or on Reuters newsfeeds and slather CNN, Fox, & MSNBC with a bunch of fucking bullshit?



johnQpublic's picture

does anyone but me get a pop up error when they try to up arrow something semi controversial?

like mr sawyer here?

TwoShortPlanks's picture

No, but I got one on yours. I voted you up for testing purposes only.

GetZeeGold's picture




I clicked the down arrow on him and it worked.

Assuming user error at this point.


Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

yeah, i got a pop-up, said NSA sumthinorother, which then morphed into a camera lense and appeared to snap a photo of me....i got my middle finger up just in time

TwoShortPlanks's picture

I'd like a poll as to what America will look like in 10 years time.

shovelhead's picture

Like a bad case of pink sock.

GetZeeGold's picture





Damn shame we didn't educate this generation on how bad the USSR sucked.


Anyway.....coming to a theater near you unless a couple people standup. It won't come from anyone under 25.


nmewn's picture

"How about no fucking hack polls at all [on Constitutional matters]? How about reserving polls to the realm of Dancing with the fucking stars?"

Fucking bingo!

The NSA & CIA have no charter from THE PEOPLE to spy on them. In fact its the opposite... 

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The above does not read like it authorizes the federal government to search or seize or demand that private companies search & seize as their partner without probable cause.

Unless of course, the entire population are criminal suspects to them ;-)

It points to centralized paranoia.

francis_sawyer's picture

Couldn't be much clearer than that, could it nmewn?


Somebody, [commenting on the 'stasi' state of affairs],  yesterday something to the effect of "How the hell did this happen to a country like this?"... I answered... "Well, I could tell you, but I'd probably get kicked off this blog for telling you" [which, of course, received a lot of downvotes ~ ostensibly on account of 'assumptions' by the pre-crime unit crew]...

Anyway ~ my answer would have been 'POLLS'...

For the record... I personally like the Constitution as it was written more than 2 centuries ago... I don't like EVERYTHING in it, but most of the important stuff I like [& I'm willing to abide by the rest]... I liked ZH in the same way before... I liked The Fight Club... I didn't like all the comments contained WITHIN Fight Club, but as long as everyone was playing by an agreed upon set of rules, then that was OK by me... Then things changed... WHY?... In essence... POLLS [only this one was a silent poll, conducted by a minority, who only bothered to publish the outcome as if it were a black & white issue which implies a unanimous verdict]...


But hey ~ as Pure Evil will gladly point out... 'IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS'...

marathonman's picture

I think the Articles of Confederation were much better.  The US Constitution was a stalking horse for the Hamiltonians.

Lost Word's picture

Confederation would have been 12 separate tribes.

The United States is the New Israel of Prophecy.

Unfortunately, the tribe of Judah hates the Lost Tribes of Israel.

Perhaps one reason the tribe of Judah could not let the Lost Tribe Mormon leader Romney win the 2012 election, and instead supported the illegitimate Non Natural Born Citizen Obama fraud.

And the Lost Tribes of Israel have mixed views on the tribe of Judah.

Oracle of Kypseli's picture

The traitor side is very close to the % of people working for .gov. Hmm!


kill switch's picture

Polls are a way of conditioning the "plebs" that we live in a democracy ….you know that two wolves and a sheep thing. How about this fucking poll,,, What form of government do we have? HAHAHAHA

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

How about a ZH poll?

ZH is fucking awesome.

Oh wait, that's not what you meant is it? ;)

chumbawamba's picture

I would express it thusly: a republic gets what you give it; a democracy gets what it deserves.

I am Chumbawamba.

NumberNone's picture

Maybe they were confused by the question...there is a Prism Beer...and I support it. 

zjxn06's picture

" "News Story Of The Day" instead of the hearings."

... AND THEN story of the day quickly went to black guy in McDonalds who saw one of the girls screaming or whatever.

... AND THEN story of the day went to MdDonalds giving the unlikely "hero" a life time supply of Big Macs!  

Nothing like the thought of a lifetime of FREE Big Macs to distract the hungry mases from the more important the suffering those poor women esperienced in extended captivity.  

Single/double distraction. These psy ops guys are good.   MSM one of their most potent weapons - the narcotic of the masses.

There is a book by C.S. Lewis entitled the "The Screw Tape Letters".  Passage in the book where Satan distracts a guy from thoughts of an Almighty God.and Saviour by placing a ham sandwich on the park bench where guy.  Guy sees the sandwich sitting next to him, completely forgets what he was thinking about, and stuffs his face.