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It's On: US "Finds" Chemical Weapon Use Against Syrian Rebels; Military Proposes Arming Rebels, No-Fly Zone

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The "red-line" has been crossed. The New York Times is reporting that:


And alongside that finding, as part of (or justification for?) the arming of the Syrian rebels, the WSJ reports that the US Military is calling for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria. The seriousness of this escalation must be put in the context of a desperately-needed distraction for the current administration - which makes the decisions being made even more concerning in their potential for extremes.



Via The New York Times,

American and European intelligence analysts now believe that President Bashar al-Assad’s troops have used chemical weapons against rebel forces in the civil war there, an assessment that will put added pressure on a deeply divided Obama administration to develop a response to a provocation that the president himself has declared a “red line.”


According to an internal memorandum circulating inside the government on Thursday, the “intelligence community assesses that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on a small scale against the opposition multiple times in the last year.”




“Our intelligence community has high confidence in that assessment given multiple, independent streams of information,” the memorandum said.




According to a C.I.A. report, which was described by an American official who declined to be identified, the United States has acquired blood, urine and hair samples from two Syrian rebels — one dead, and one wounded — who were involved in a firefight with Syrian government forces in mid-March near the town of Utubya, northeast of Damascus.


The samples showed that the rebels were exposed to sarin and supports the conclusion that the regime has used the weapon.


In recent days, the British and French government have also asserted that there is evidence that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons. 

Via The Wall Street Journal,

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.


Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.


To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

Watch John McCain and Lindsey Graham pat themselves on the back for just escalating Europe's crusade to get a Qatar natgas pipeline through a US-friendly Syria regime live on C-Span, at the expense of countless lives as mere "collateral damage."

We eagerly look forward to the Russian (and Chinese) re-escalation. Things just got real and are going to move quickly from here on out. 


And for those who are still confused...


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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:53 | 3655600 Pladizow
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Yes and Iraq had WMD!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:00 | 3655627 kliguy38
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Time to divert and rally round the flag sheeple

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655655 Pinto Currency
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Just like Iraq, we should invade because Bashar Assad has been working with al Qaeda.

Oh wait.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655668 Pladizow
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"Naturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." – Hermann Goering

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:11 | 3655709 redpill
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Snowden who?  Look over here!  War!  Shiny!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:14 | 3655718 JonNadler
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will Colin Powell present the evidence please?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:16 | 3655726 Doubleguns
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Nope, we have Kerry with 3 purple hearts for that or a communty organizer...your choice.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:23 | 3655752 Pinto Currency
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Factual headline:

Post-Cyprus physical gold withdrawal rush exposes widespread phsycial gold rehypothecation/fractional gold reserve  scandal in Euro and US banking sector.  US and Europe recommend war with Syria to explain imminent gold price launch.

World awaits response from Putin Galore.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:24 | 3655768 nope-1004
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Say goodbye to your gold, Syria.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:26 | 3655781 jbvtme
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i'm looking for the no lie zone


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:45 | 3655879 johnQpublic
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the main attraction




Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:20 | 3656046 TheFourthStooge-ing
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So the "proof" being used to justify WW3 is a couple of "rebels" testing positive for exposure to sarin gas? I wonder if there's any connection between these two guys and the twelve "rebels" arrested in Turkey a couple of weeks ago who had 2 kilograms of sarin gas.

Nah, that would just be a conspiracy theory.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:44 | 3656173 whstlblwr
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Whew, what a relief, just when BernQE was worried he would be blamed for the high price of oil.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:16 | 3656324 Theosebes Goodfellow
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And so the "commander-in-chief" with the bogus Selective Service Card, (, want to give weapons to the folks with the the same ideology as the crew that attacked us on 9/11/2001 because some Muslim dictator-son of a Muslim dictator is killing people trying to overthrow and kill him.

You know, I'm just not seeing where we here in America have a dog in that hunt. Can someone show me where we come out ahead with either side succeeding?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:40 | 3656408 gmrpeabody
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Syria's gold can go to Germany..., that should get them off our ass for a while.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:26 | 3656556 TwoShortPlanks
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I'd hate to live in that shit-hole...and I'm not talking about Syria.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:39 | 3656611 Eisenhorn
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You are being bombarded with scandals to overload your senses.  They are watching you.  They are listening to you.  You are being conditioned with fear and confusion.  You will now be led into a war which will spill across the globe in an effort to reset the global economy.


Welcome to the New Age:

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:20 | 3656748 Pooper Popper
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:36 | 3656799 dwdollar
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You know... there was a time when Congress had to declare a war by voting on it... in order for it to be legitimate. Those days seem like ancient history.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:27 | 3656765 Dr. Sandi
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The Syrian government is backed by the Russians. The Russians have a virtual monopoly on natural gas in Western Europe.

The Syrian government has said no to an alternative natural gas pipeline crossing their land that would bring methane from the rich gassy fields of Quatar to the gasbag democracies of Europe.

Therefore, the Syrian government has to be gotten rid of so that more 'reasonable' heads of state can be installed who will allow the Quatar gas to flow to Europe.

Naturally Russia wants to keep their monopoly and will do their best to keep their puppy government in charge in Syria.

Meanwhile, the 'good guys' who support Quatar, such as Arabia and the U.S. want to derail the evil government of Syria and bring in a bunch of rebels to set up a new 'democracy' that will send the Quatar gas to Europe to compete with the Russky gas.

So which bunch of evil bastards should you be supporting? Well, if you like your semi-cheap oil to keep flowing to the SUV's tank from the Arab states, you'd better make sure their horse gets to run in the race against that Russian thoroughbred. And that means, GO REBELS!

Besides, somebody has to buy all the leftover guns that we haven't stockpiled for use on each other. Might as well have the taxpayers snap up a few million weapons for Syrian rebels to prevent bloodshed with.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:34 | 3657552 i-dog
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Nonsense. The objectives are political (removing a non-Sunni leader who stands in the way of a new Sunni Caliphate - a vital component of the NWO controlling all Muslim states).

An oil or gas pipeline could go from Iraq through NATO-member Turkey almost as easily as across Syria ... and then be subject to far fewer "terrorist" attacks.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:26 | 3656357 cynicalskeptic
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They're running out of options in kicking the financial can down the road..... Japan isa falling apart, the EU is screwed and the US will be falling apart soon....


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 07:38 | 3657556 i-dog
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Then let that distraction be a SECESSION MOVEMENT by the states from DC ... rather than being suckered into yet another useless war to satisfy globalist political objectives.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:54 | 3656225 cynicalskeptic
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Anyone found Libya's gold yet?


I wonder if the first bars returned to Germany will be stamped with Libyan Central Bank ownership marks............

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:38 | 3656400 Monedas
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These guys don't bring gold home .... they give our gold away .... to our enemies !

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:58 | 3656867 tip e. canoe
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don't you worry, they'll melt it down and stamp the Barrick "seal of approval" on it before it gets onto German territory.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 02:35 | 3657376 natty light
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You know, old Ghadaafe was a shrewd guy [surviving as long as he did , 1969]; I can't believe he would bury all his golden eggs in one basket. It is possible his hoard was not found as we assume. It could be scattered around the globe, or even decoyed with tungsten-laden bars. I wouldn't put it past the old prankster.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:09 | 3656507 Things that go bump
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Assad will take it with him when he leaves, as dictators alway do.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:29 | 3656780 Dr. Sandi
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Khadafi didn't take his gold with him. It's in 'safe' hands until its rightful owner can be determined.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:54 | 3656852 Things that go bump
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Khadafi and Saddam should have left when the leaving was good. Then they would be sitting someplace pleasant with their ill-gotten gains.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:03 | 3657474 ross81
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Assad has approval ratings Obama could only dream of.

It's the warmongering thug in the Oval Office who should go!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:24 | 3655772 Pladizow
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Because Syria exports sooooo much gold?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:43 | 3656630 BoNeSxxx
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No because Syria NEEDS a central bank silly.  And not just ANY central bank.  They need the special variety like the rest of us enjoy.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:26 | 3655778 jbvtme
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:25 | 3655779 francis_sawyer
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Fuck Lindsey Graham... John McCain... & the 'Boys Town" hobby horses they rode in on...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:00 | 3655948 Chupacabra-322
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Fuck them. Actually, Graham would probably enjoy that. What needs to occur are mass arrests of these Criminals. Tri, convict & execute in public via hanging them upside down, slicing their throats ear to ear & watching them drown in their own blood for all the world to see.

It's more than over due!!!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:25 | 3656071 Pinto Currency
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Due process and right of a proper defense will do.

The scum should be shown the proper way a constitution works and then they should wear their crimes.  We don't need to use their methods.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:50 | 3656452 noless
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As long as we actually do the impartial jury and speedy trial part I'm down. Also, no linguistic circumnavigation bullshit. None of that "depends on what the definition of is is" jackassery. And the jury must be fully informed to their right to determine sentence, also, only judges allowed who have a near Stainless record of impartiality and of upholding the constitution and the right of the people to just sentencing under the law.

But yeah, fuck the torture bullshit, real trial, quick execution upon verdict and sentencing thereof, constitution style.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:52 | 3656459 Paveway IV
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Don't worry. U.S. Military officers swear to this:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Obama's 'red line' does not trump the Constitution. Congressional rights-whores do not trump the constitution. (that's what I heard on PRISM)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:58 | 3656473 butchee
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Fuck 'em all, and let god sort it out.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:33 | 3656790 Dr. Sandi
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A shitload of those officers also think the constitution and the flag they've pledged allegience to are the same thing. And a flag is a lot less precise in its meaning than the constitution.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:09 | 3655994 TeamDepends
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We were thinking about McCain earlier today!  Like what a giant douschebag he is!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 23:59 | 3657165 Clashfan
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You mean McStain, of Keating 5 fame, the guy who helped Skerry hide the truth about our MIAs in Nam?

Yes. You mean McStain the traitor, the guy who recently met with Al CIAduh.

McStain. Traitor. Typical. Too typical, sadly.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:40 | 3658009 Crash Overide
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Didn't little John McCain just meet with al-qaeda in Syria to finalize plans to arm a terrorist organization that we have been "fighting", you know war on terror? How is John not in jail for treason, oh wait I forgot, al-CIAda is our guys... the hypocrisy is so thick you couldn't cut it with depleted uranium round. Are the sheep so dumb they can't see what's coming AGAIN! If we all don't put an end to this madness I guess we deserve what's coming.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:26 | 3655785 negative rates
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I just saw some qualitative easing going on.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:46 | 3655881 WillyGroper
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Derivative book to blow?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:58 | 3655943 teolawki
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Already blown?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:20 | 3656045 The Shootist
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Bullish for 1 k points on the Mau Jones Industrial Average.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:23 | 3655764 kaiserhoff
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Wag ze DAWG.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:32 | 3655820 disabledvet
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careful. some of these dogs don't like being held:

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:06 | 3655981 NOTW777
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:42 | 3656425 DawgAss
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Not this Dawg, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:24 | 3655773 ACP
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Wow, the EUROPEANS came to the same conclusion as the US?!?

A shitty-ass EUROPEAN economy can sure make THEM far more willing to go to war than 10 years ago.

That means there will be no one to blow the whistle when it has finally been determined that the anti-Syria terrorists were the ones using the chems. Nice. Nothing like imploding economies to bring everyone together.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:33 | 3655823 disabledvet
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did someone say "consensus"?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:55 | 3655923 Chupacabra-322
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For the last time!!!

These Criminals are arming, funding & training the same terrorists AL-CIA-duh groups via NATO, Saudi Arabia & Turkey etc ...... They claim to be protecting us from.

When will the mass arrest of the District of Criminals commence?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:32 | 3656385 cynicalskeptic
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Natural gas pipelines through Syrai take precedence over 'protecting' us from terrorists......

The Taliban were honored guests in DC (and Texas) when Unicol was trying to get a pipeline through Afghanistan....


The 'War on Terror' is a myth, a contrived all-purpose bogeyman used to justify the obscene amount spent by the US on its military and 'security' - we've worked WITH and USED most of these 'terrorists' in the past - and will continue to do so in the future.  Ask Sibel Edmonds.....  who STILL has a federal gag order on her.  Can't let reality see the light of day.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:58 | 3656240 cynicalskeptic
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This is all about natural gas pipelines and breaking the lock Russia has on those supplies for Europe.  Syria provides the territory for getting gulf natural gas to Europe through Turkey to Europe.

BUT Russia diesn't want to lose its monopoly..... so this is going to be a LOT messier than Iraq.  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:35 | 3655832 PiratePawpaw
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About 45seconds after they were told what conclusion to come to.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:28 | 3655796 smlbizman
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i pledge alligence to this...blah fucking blah fucking blah.....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:34 | 3655827 disabledvet
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not total apparently.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:21 | 3656340 spekulatn
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Nope, we have Kerry with 3 purple hearts for that or a nobel peace prizen communty organizer...your choice.


(Emphasis added)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:19 | 3655744 tarsubil
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The masters agreed that after they stuck their arm all the way up his ass that one time, he could retire and work on rehabilitating his colon. Don't say the masters aren't understanding or overly cruel.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:26 | 3655786 Dr. Venkman
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yes, and instead of a vial of yellow cake he will hold up an recycled margarine cup full of. . .rebel piss?


tainted effluence from the very rebels which earlier were cited as the ones using chemical weapons . . . works for me. Cry Havoc!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:41 | 3656417 CrashingDollars
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Maybe, but only if you promise only softball questions

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:18 | 3655741 fonzannoon
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Syria is just a cover up for snowden which is just a cover up for the IRS which is just a cover up for the AP which is just a cover up for the boston bombing which is just a cover up for Benzaghi.

Do I have the order right?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655790 PiratePawpaw
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Pretty much, but I think "this joke of an economic recovery" goes in there somewhere.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:34 | 3655829 toys for tits
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Next thing you know, they'll be claiming that they read the Syrian President's email about syrian gas.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:28 | 3655795 tarsubil
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So the US was staging a kidnapping with the ambassador and accidentally killed him.

The FBI gave the Chechens a live device in an attempt to show off and it went sideways and they've been shooting dead any close friends of the brothers to get rid of any loose ends.

Both the Republican and Democrat establishments signed off on sicking the IRS on the Tea Partiers.

Snowden's releases show that the government has built and started to use a huge infrastructure for spying on all Americans to suppress dissent and develop a police state.

What's the true story in Syria? The US used chemical weapons on innocent people in Syria and now has to get rid of any loose ends FBI style? Or perhaps everyone in DC is a homicidal maniac with an unending bloodlust?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:38 | 3655847 disabledvet
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the President still hasn't "tweeted war" yet. When he says something...FORMALLY would be nice...THEN we are at war. (As i recall the Iraq war was voted on. It had a speech attached to it as well. Wasn't that the "Axis of Evil" one?)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:52 | 3656461 object_orient
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 "When he says something...FORMALLY would be nice...THEN we are at war."


Oh is that it? I thought Congress authorized it, or something.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:34 | 3656795 Dr. Sandi
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Congress authorizing a war?

That's so 19th Century!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:22 | 3656753 Go Tribe
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Oh, we no longer need niceties like speeches and congressional votes, just feed our people into the maw of the ravenous woarmongers.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:07 | 3655984 francis_sawyer
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"Syria is just a cover up for snowden which is just a cover up for the IRS which is just a cover up for the AP which is just a cover up for the boston bombing which is just a cover up for Benzaghi.

Do I have the order right?"


Bravo!... You 'STOPPED SHORT' of the 'CHEESEPOPE cover up'... But you're starting to get the bigger picture... RIGHT GOOD! fonz... :-)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:37 | 3656140 fonzannoon
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I always fumble on the goal line.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:46 | 3656183 francis_sawyer
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No ~ You're good... I'll tell you why...


Whilst the 'CHEERS' [with a Bloombverg Terminal] meme kind of bugs me... I still think that if & when TSHTF... Y'all will jump into the same foxhole if & when when the moment arrives...

Carry On...


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:05 | 3656277 fonzannoon
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like I said I hope we get past the "where everybody knows your avatar" phase...cause it's getting boring.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:15 | 3656320 francis_sawyer
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It 'shouldn't oughta' be like that, I agree... But that's JUST THE WAY IT IS... [Right? 'Pure Evil']...


I can't remember WHO is responsible for the transformation... My wild guess is a combination of inert Indiana quarried limestone blocks & Swiss molecular nanobots... But, as always, I COULD be wrong...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:41 | 3656414 Handful of Dust
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At least it's not "that mushroom cloud" Condylezza Rice warned us about.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:31 | 3656785 RideTheWalrus
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When Daenerys Targaryen shows up with her 3 dragons it's going to get real.

Wait... this is Game Of Thrones we are talking about isn't it?

It's not?

This is real?

Well, shit.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:46 | 3656644 Loose Caboose
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:02 | 3656876 tip e. canoe
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hahahahaha funny


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3655758 Colonel Klink
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A humanitarian ahead of his time.


Now where's Schulz?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:08 | 3655980 Randall Cabot
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This is a dumb quote, if Goering actually did say it, it was probably to get his balls out of the vice-you can't believe anything coming out of Nuremberg, they were all tortured.

Anyway, if the nitwits running Poland had taken Germany up on their invitation and joind them in the Anti-Communist Pact, and also let the Germans build their highway across the Polish Corridor, there would not have been war until the Reds attacked.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:49 | 3656201 Kinskian
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According to David Irving, Goering did say:

"When I hear the word 'democracy', I reach for a gun!"

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:52 | 3656460 IndyPat
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Wait, so those fucking Syrians hit us with Nerve Gas?
This aggression will not stand, man.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:10 | 3655700 john39
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absolute farce by a global cabal of insane clowns destined to rot in hell.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655787 francis_sawyer
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I'll go with that... But something tells me there oughtta be something worse...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:03 | 3655961 teolawki
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There is something worse, much worse. And they've been very busy creating it. Unfortunately it is being built for us.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:29 | 3656090 francis_sawyer
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Well there IS... as always... [& here it is]


Chris [fucking 'spoonfed cheesepope'] Berman just came on the air to tell us like it is...

Here's the way it is people... Chris [FAT ASS FUCKING CHEESE BLINTZ STUFFING IN HIS FAT FACE EATING] Berman... Is 'questioning'... [I tell you 'QUESTIONING'], the decision of 'Tiger Woods', [holder of 14 MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS & a plethora of USGA AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIPS]... The decision to go with a "1" iron instead of a 5-wood after less than a half a dozen holes of play...


So what you all need to do... Just IN CASE you all want to have the 'HOPE' of being a success... Is listen to the advice of cheesepopes...

This is my last warning!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:38 | 3656608 mt paul
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with nukes..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:04 | 3656881 tip e. canoe
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clowns was the 1st word that came to me mind upon reading the post.

there was also a "fucking" there somewhere closeby.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:08 | 3656294 steelhead23
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An important difference between attacking Syria and attacking Iraq is that Assad remains on good terms with Mr. Putin.  I suspect that if there is indeed any new intelligence feeding into this frenzy, it has to do with the perceived willingness of Mr. Putin to come to Mr. Assad's aid.  Anyone with the least bit of sense would not wish to provoke the Russian bear.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:36 | 3656805 Dr. Sandi
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Since Mr. Putin stands to personally lose a lot of rubles if the Russian monopoly in Eurogas crumbles, he is not a man who will need a lot of provoking.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3655755 SAT 800
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Make sure you don't remember anything about the POTUS ordering the IRS to monkey-hammer conservatives, or the NSA; we can just jam the media with this crazy crap.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:47 | 3656193 Wile-E-Coyote
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Don't forget the yellow ribbon.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:06 | 3656496 noless
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Obama 2016 bumper stickers, hotcakes i tell ya.

Once and for all
A united Obama nation

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:08 | 3656499 HardAssets
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'Dont forget the yellow ribbon'

And those tiny little American flags, musnt forget those. Can wave them while yelling 'USA, USA, USA !' while the military bombs the hell outta people in a country who the dumbazzes couldnt find on a map.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:17 | 3656531 Things that go bump
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Better them than they should turn their attention to us.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:10 | 3656300 Renewable Life
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So the globalist manics all gather in England last week, and 4 days later, the "next Crusade" is announced!!!!

Jesus, at least make it a little harder then that to see thru the bullshit! Lazy ass bastards at this point, remember when they cared what the serfs thought, and they would parade before the UN, and Presidents would do Prime Time TV, and they would put on a big show for the MSM, now its just some idiot Senator that goes down to the Senate floor and "announces" the next war at 3;30pm on a Thursday!

Damn they feel confident right now!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:37 | 3656807 Dr. Sandi
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Just follow the money. Christ knows they've printed enough of it that it's pretty damned easy to find the trail.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:04 | 3656491 HardAssets
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Neocon:  "Well Mr Prez, with all these scandals somehow getting leaked, we think youre gonna need a diversion. You know, a sign of presidential strength that will take the American peoples attention off of this. Afterall, you could very well get impeached - - - and worse after that.  Lets see . . . lets dust off these plans here. Weve had them for several years and theyve worked out quite well. Look at all these countries weve taken down over there . . . "

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:00 | 3655628 Midasking
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What could possibly go wrong with this plan?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:11 | 3655704 max2205
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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:00 | 3655631 jaap
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He goes for a second nobel prize... obviously.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3655657 OS2010
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Nobel Peace Prize -- details are important!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:10 | 3655694 francis_sawyer
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Dona K's 'HUBBY' just uncorked a bottle of the 'finest' wine they have in the cellar...


Please... DONA K... Tell us what's on the home cooked 'gourmet menu' this fine evening...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:14 | 3655719 OS2010
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What is a Dona K? 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:38 | 3655814 francis_sawyer
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I really dunno... At first blush, I'd say a 'homeschooled cheesepope'...


But don't take my word for it... HELL ~ I NEVER TAKE FOR GRANTED the bullshit that anyone publishes in the media... But according to a lot of folks on ZH, francis_sawyer is just an @sshole, so if you want to be POPULAR you better get right to junking this comment [It's on the button to your left & above]...


If you wanna b frank... My first impression [to respond to your inquiry ~ based on the 30 second time delay between post & upvote]... Is that YOU ARE Dona K's hubby... [which means you need to get back to re-fitting doze American made 'FIGHTER JETS' with your more sophisticated ISRAELI avionics]...

CHOP CHOP!... You don't want to get dem shot down or anything...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:58 | 3655942 TheGardener
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Get real, you seem to feel like us and have a real message to deliver and not to decipher .

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:59 | 3655947 Bay of Pigs
Bay of Pigs's picture I remember that bullshit post of hers. Good one francis...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:24 | 3656065 OS2010
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Could you point me to it?  Now I'm really curious as to what the joke is!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:39 | 3656365 francis_sawyer
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Fucking 'brilliant!'

One [of my MANY] flaws is that I'm not a good record keeper... I just say what comes to mind... BUT IN MY MEMORY ~ I RECOLLECT FUCKING EVERYTHING... It's kinda a blessing, characteristic,  [& a CURSE] of the club I belong to [who I think most of the members are FOS]...

I wish I was somebody else most of the time...



Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:30 | 3656375 OS2010
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Thanks, I think.... Wow, I agree her post was a tad lame.  I wonder if the post was serious?  Not a funny topic at the moment.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:44 | 3656631 francis_sawyer
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Oh... you've only scratched the surface... [I'm wondereing if Dona K & MsCreant aren't the same lesbian couple ~ just KIDDING in reality]... But in 'spirit'?...


MsCreant [aka: Ms 'wannadogood'... emphasis on the curly gray Ms]... is all AGAINST the usury of '16 yo' Japanese JAPANESE TEENS... But when it comes down to CHEESEPOPES doing the same thing with BRITNEY SPEARS, she's CRICKETS...

You just can't make this shit up...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:27 | 3656772 OS2010
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Well, we need those folks to keep it interesting, at least!  Thanks, hadn't seen those posts (yes, I do miss a few, can't read ZH 24 hours per day -- too depressing at times...).

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655789 nope-1004
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Her hubby also predicted the Global Coastal Event to happen May 26, no later than June 1.  Oops.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:42 | 3655869 OS2010
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OK, thanks.  Far more informative than Sawyer's blathering....  ;)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:11 | 3656006 francis_sawyer
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I'm not a person... just a BOT...


More importantly... HOW WAS THE GOUREMET MEAL?... I wanna share recipes...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:30 | 3656078 OS2010
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Please explain.  I guess I'm not as clued-in as you seem to think.

Added later:

[Got it now, thanks to BoP and Sawyer for explaining.]

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655649 Buckaroo Banzai
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Well, what else would you expect? All we do is back Islamist rebels against secular arab regimes, everywhere. Except this one time where we had to fight the Taliban for a little while in a place called Trashcanistan. Our special forces did their jobs a little too well, you know how it is with those guys. But we gave the country back to the Taliban a few years later when nobody was looking.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:12 | 3655711 john39
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Calling Obama a Muslim is an insult to religious people of all types.  he is nothing of the sort.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:30 | 3655809 PiratePawpaw
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I was gonna say an insult to muslim c*nts. But you had the same basic idea. +1

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:31 | 3655811 Buckaroo Banzai
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He sure as shit is a Muslim. The Koran is clear: wage war against the infidel. That is precisely what Obama is doing.


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:48 | 3655888 NotApplicable
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The point is that he's not anything, but a hollow shell of a puppet. Project any image onto him that you like, but remember it's ALL your projection, not his.

He is nothing but a place holder.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:37 | 3656137 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Project any image onto him that you like, but remember it's ALL your projection, not his.

Some people have an exceedingly difficult time taking off the blinders and letting go of their illusions.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:16 | 3656529 noless
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Were you the one in that windowless van right after i upvoted you? Or was that somebody else monitoring my online activity?

Sorry, just this whole nsa thing has got me a bit frazzled.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:29 | 3656567 HardAssets
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Yep . . .'external enemies' and 'internal enemies' is a divide & conquer game that the oligarchs have played for centuries.  They keep using it because it seems to work. Many fall for it. Theyre being manipulated.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:04 | 3656197 Kirk2NCC1701
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BB, riotous as your Muslim hypothesis is, unfortunately it does not fit the facts.  Given that he has decided to surround himself with Big Gov, Big Oil, MIC, Big Banking types -- all of which leads to moar QE and profits for the Fed's shareholders, and has so many ex-Goldmanites (Jewish!) on his team, the "Puppet" or "Manchurian Candidate" model works better.

I submit that real policy decisions are made elsewhere*, and that he's just the front man and the slutty but convincing salesman.  The "PC Anywhere" concept has been applied to the US Government.

* E.g., The Bush ranch, Wall St (JPM, GS), and Tel Aviv (Likud leaders).

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:15 | 3656319 Henry Hub
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You have it pretty well right. He's just an unprincipled opportunist doing what he's told by his rich oligarch backers (owners). He's not concerned with his place in history or any of that nonsense. He has no intention of challenging the power structure in any way. He's just looking forward to playing golf and collecting millions for giving speeches just like Clinton.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:43 | 3656628 IndyPat
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Sergeant Shaw?

Sergeant Raymond Shaw?

Raymond Prentice Shaw?

Hello, you remember me?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:59 | 3656477 object_orient
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What's the big deal with Benghazi? Thousands of Americans died in Iraq and Afghanistan. A few died in Benghazi. You related to the ambassador or have a fondness for civilian foreign service officers or something?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:25 | 3656554 noless
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The CIA was running an op out of the embassy to supply arms to destabilise governments, look up ambassador Stevens "private" internet profile. Maybe that will shed some light as to why it was a horrible idea to post him there.. Or maybe intentional, we'll never know because Boston bombings.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:30 | 3656573 noless
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Also, your "thousands died" leaves out quite a few hundred thousands of people that were destroyed, and yet, we're arming the groups we were fighting? But aren't? Are? Did? Maybe will?

Let the cog dis rock you my friend. If you think Benghazi was just "one man dying".

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:00 | 3656693 object_orient
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Yeah I know. I figured someone fixated on Benghazi, from all the other scandals big and small, isn't too concerned about a million+ dead Iraqis and Afghans. But why is Benghazi an outlier? Upthread someone said, correctly, that the government habitually helps radical Islamists overthrow Middle Eastern and North African secular governments. Benghazi is possibly one aspect of a much larger (and obvious) policy.

Anyone paying the remotest attention knew what was happening in Libya from the beginning. Same in Syria. So why the focus on the Benghazi INCIDENT and not the entire policy? Is it some kind of FOX News shorthand I don't understand?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3655658 freewolf7
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What the FUCK are we doing in $yria?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:13 | 3655713 john39
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banker wars...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:26 | 3656076 machineh
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Ask the Lobby.

Iran's friend is Israel's enemy.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:22 | 3655760 Lore
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Re: "WTF are we doing in Syria?"


Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:29 | 3655801 Jim B
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Agree, we should support the side of good versus evil.  Oh, they are both evil..... nevermind!

Never miss a chance to spend some blood and treasure!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:33 | 3655825 PiratePawpaw
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The same thing we have done and are doing in (insert country name), protecting the petrodollar and by extension TPTB.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:37 | 3655842 samsara
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What the FUCK are we doing in $yria?


Trying to get a gas pipeline built from Qatar to Turkey,  cutting out Russia's control of Europes energy supply.


Keep up and pay attention.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:47 | 3656392 Kirk2NCC1701
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And beyond that... slowly encircling and destabilizing Russia.  Either for a Russian Spring or total war.  Look at the Iron Domes wer'e putting up in Israel and Easter Europe.  / Like Iran will really target Europe or Israel, given the many hundreds of nukes they all have. /sarc

Remember, the End Game of the Long Game for the globalist/NOW Elite is [frum roll]: Total control of world's key resources.  Especially energy resources. The petrol-dollar and the MIC/Gunboat_Diplomacy are means to an end.  Once they have total control, they can decide how long they want these resources to last for themselves (for decades or centuries) by downsizing the population, etc.  What else would they/you do, if you had the proverbial "Power of God"?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:45 | 3656637 mt paul
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a buried pipeline


running thru a nuclear wasteland ..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:24 | 3656066 Winston Churchill
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Deploying red lines.

Does that beat a Russian line in the sand ?

Oil futures are about to get very  interesting when Hormuz is closed.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:20 | 3656337 Renewable Life
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For sure!  Remember the story about John Kerry being stood up at the Kremlin and made to wait 3 hours in the lobby, for a 25 minute meeting with Putin, in which Putin proceeded to say fuck you to Kerry and Obama, and horses they rode in on!

Well Putin, here's your rsponse, I hope your balls are half as big as Edward Snowden's, Check Motherfucker, IT YOUR CALL! please tell me you've got something in that hand, this time!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:42 | 3656622 noless
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Putin is a man who abides by photographs of him shirtless, riding a horse, being released to the public at large, I'm fairly certain he's in his 50s at least, calling out putin for balls.. Is odd in the least. Not to mention he's former kgb..

Like, fairly certain you don't survive in Russia like that if you can't hack it.

This is possibly the first time ever i have done anything close to defend a slavic entity or person in my memory, and it's just because your comment was so, so very odd.

Both china and russia have severe issues with internal dissent, forced by growing negative economic conditions, but so does the good ole u s of a.

Just google shirtless putin horseback, it's near on complete ridiculous, not like Obama didn't try it with the skeet though.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:14 | 3656678 HardAssets
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If I read it right, I think he meant the last paragraph as a response by Putin to O and the neocons that are beating the war drums.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:51 | 3656454 Kirk2NCC1701
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Why don't they just run a pipeline across SA -- either to the south coast, or across toward Jordan and Israel???

Would that be too obvious & easy, and deny the war-whores their profits. And how would you do some Muslim birth control, if we had no wars? /s

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:45 | 3656635 IndyPat
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Rocking the Ca$bah, like we always do...

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