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It's On: US "Finds" Chemical Weapon Use Against Syrian Rebels; Military Proposes Arming Rebels, No-Fly Zone

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The "red-line" has been crossed. The New York Times is reporting that:

  • U.S. CONCLUDES SYRIA USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST REBELS: NYT, and
  • NYT SAYS EUROPEAN OFFICIALS REACH SAME CONCLUSION ON SYRIA
  • MCCAIN SAYS U.S. TO PROVIDE WEAPONS TO SYRIAN REBELS

And alongside that finding, as part of (or justification for?) the arming of the Syrian rebels, the WSJ reports that the US Military is calling for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria. The seriousness of this escalation must be put in the context of a desperately-needed distraction for the current administration - which makes the decisions being made even more concerning in their potential for extremes.

 

 

Via The New York Times,

American and European intelligence analysts now believe that President Bashar al-Assad’s troops have used chemical weapons against rebel forces in the civil war there, an assessment that will put added pressure on a deeply divided Obama administration to develop a response to a provocation that the president himself has declared a “red line.”

 

According to an internal memorandum circulating inside the government on Thursday, the “intelligence community assesses that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on a small scale against the opposition multiple times in the last year.”

 

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“Our intelligence community has high confidence in that assessment given multiple, independent streams of information,” the memorandum said.

 

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According to a C.I.A. report, which was described by an American official who declined to be identified, the United States has acquired blood, urine and hair samples from two Syrian rebels — one dead, and one wounded — who were involved in a firefight with Syrian government forces in mid-March near the town of Utubya, northeast of Damascus.

 

The samples showed that the rebels were exposed to sarin and supports the conclusion that the regime has used the weapon.

 

In recent days, the British and French government have also asserted that there is evidence that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons. 

Via The Wall Street Journal,

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

 

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

 

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

Watch John McCain and Lindsey Graham pat themselves on the back for just escalating Europe's crusade to get a Qatar natgas pipeline through a US-friendly Syria regime live on C-Span, at the expense of countless lives as mere "collateral damage."

We eagerly look forward to the Russian (and Chinese) re-escalation. Things just got real and are going to move quickly from here on out. 

 

And for those who are still confused...

 

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Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:53 | 3656662 HardAssets
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'WTF we're doing in Syria ?"

 

Midterm:  Tactical/strategic positioning for future attack on Iran. They dont want a Iranian ally at their back.

Longterm:  The 1000 Year Reich

 

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655662 Canadian Dirtlump
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We called it Al Quaeda is in the process of getting liquidated, and it's now or likely never. WW3 here we come. I dearly hope the good guys, Russia and China, make life difficult.

 

IF you examine the facts is is hague of the UK and fabius of France who want this in the worst way and are willing to fight to the last american troop or dollar to get it. These motherfuckers. Yet another case of lies in real time leading to war. God damn them to hell.

 

p.s. terrorist al nusra front leader raped journalist.

 

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/leader-of-western-backed-te...

 

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:13 | 3655712 azzhatter
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Didn't even need token Colin Powell to determine this?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:35 | 3656128 teolawki
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And of course, recent events in Turkey have absolutely no relationship to any of this. The timing of that is simply coincidence.

/sarcoff

The Turkish regime wants it as badly as any of them.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:08 | 3656715 HardAssets
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I wouldnt call China and Russia the good guys. IMO the world is run by rival criminal gangsters  that live off the people. Some are lesser leeches than others (only because they deem it in their best interests).

Given the level of propaganda and lies, who knows what the story is. Is the Chinese and/or Russian leadership already a tool of the NWO ?  Given that both their nation's communist revolutions were western banker supported, this isnt an irrelevant quiestion.

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655667 azzhatter
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talk about oxymorons- Military Intelligence

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:15 | 3655722 Panafrican Funk...
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So, they're going 25 miles into Syria, from Jordan.  Apart from shoring up Daraa/Golan Heights, not sure what this is actually going to do.  Pretty sure the Russian anti-aircraft goodies are going to be stationed within range of Tartus.  Looks like a "lets do stuff without actually doing stuff" move to me.  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:29 | 3655802 Panafrican Funk...
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I should note, though, that "prominent NGO" Oxfam has been littering Youtube with "Syrian humanitarian crisis" videos over the last couple of weeks, talking major, major ad buy here.  Likely the cover for, well, the slaughter of innocents, quite frankly.  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655792 Taint Boil
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Says who? Some high school drop out?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:30 | 3655805 TideFighter
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Let's settle this with a game of Horse on the White House basketball court. Prolly have to spot Barry with HO to make the game even.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:32 | 3656560 Everybodys All ...
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McCain is deranged. He and former president Clinton are trying to talk Obama into this mess in Syria. The question I have is how much Arab money is going into their bank accounts? When was the last time Congress voted on going to war?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/06/13/Clinton-to-Obama-Override-Public-Opposition-to-Syria-Intervention 

This alone is crazy and then on top of it all we are arming Al-Qaeda rebels in Syria. Al-Qaeda? I think we have impeachable offenses occurring all over DC. This is just plain nuts. Who are we fighting in Afghanistan?

I'm getting the feeling there is some form of blackmail going on with respect to what happened in Benghazi. All the characters are involved and nothing else makes sense.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:55 | 3655602 camaro68ss
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MOAR WAR! Must keep Muppets occupied and terrified.


Operation “dropping kinetic bombs of peace” commencing

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:24 | 3655769 Colonel Klink
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Send in the drones.  <to the music of send in the clowns.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:55 | 3655603 lolmao500
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So as I thought, the crossroads has been reached and the US decided to go full on war...

Now let's see what Russia does.

WW3 here we go.

Someone nuke DC before they destroy the whole world.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655788 Canadian Dirtlump
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it is so sad but if you bombed DC Ottawa Paris London Riyadh Doha and Tel Aviv the world would find peace instantly.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:52 | 3655905 PiratePawpaw
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History shows that war is almost always the outcome in times like these. Real life feels like it is slower than the history books, but I think technology has actually sped things up. Rome lasted almost 1000yrs, I give us about 250.

Agreed on DC, but make it a tactical nuke. There might be some decent folk 60 or 70 miles downwind.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:02 | 3655956 Canadian Dirtlump
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there was little doubt we were going to be right.. but it sure doesn't make it easier to swallow.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:42 | 3656164 TheFourthStooge-ing
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There might be some decent folk 60 or 70 miles downwind.

In that case you'd want an air burst to maximize destruction and minimize fallout. Ground bursts do less damage locally, but are absolutely filthy in terms of fallout.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:47 | 3656831 Dr. Sandi
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Slap the device into crate, stash it on a small commercial airplane. Take it up to 5000 feet and blammo. It's much faster and cheaper than doing a complete missile program. Less obvious than a parachute dropped from a slow moving bomber.

Just tell the pilot he's delivering dope to rebel mercenaries in Northern Virginia and light it up with a cellphone call.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:09 | 3655988 Things that go bump
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They'll have to sneak in a suitcase bomb or something to do DC if they want to take out anyone of any actual importance. Otherwise the "essentially personnel" of government gets into planes and is heading for Boulder as soon as there is a launch, and then we will never be rid of them.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:01 | 3656252 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Otherwise the "essentially personnel" of government gets into planes and is heading for Boulder as soon as there is a launch, and then we will never be rid of them.

Let them. I take it you've never seen the film The Dirty Dozen, specifically the scene near the end involving the gasoline, the grenades, and the air shafts.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:19 | 3656333 Things that go bump
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I see them turning subterranian and evolving into Morlocks.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:02 | 3656877 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I see them turning subterranian and evolving into Morlocks.

So do I: Morlock's® E-Z-Lite Charcoal Briquettes.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:53 | 3655605 ParkAveFlasher
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No fly over Syria = gold, gas, oil, or opium in Syria

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:00 | 3655632 TheGardener
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Soon we`ll get proof with some Syrian terrorist government
supporter having used Monsanto Round-up where rebels could have had cover...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:54 | 3655609 Kaiser Sousa
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FUCK  THE WHOLE US GOVERNMENT......

RUSSIA - CHINA...STEP UP BITCHES...

HEY GOVERNMENT ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME...

AINT TAKING TO MUCH MORE OF UR BULLSHIT............

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655673 Canucklehead
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Oligarchs are Oligarchs.  In case you haven't noticed, they all sit on the same multi-national boards of directors.  They all eat at the same restaurants when they are in of town.  They all play golf on the same courses and vacation at the same resorts.

... Russia - China...Step up Bitches?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:25 | 3655776 Sabibaby
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That doesn't mean they're all rooting for the same team!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:34 | 3655830 samsara
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Yes,  many versions of the Genovese vs the Gambinos.     Different families but they both will break your knee caps if you don't pay up your protection money,  I mean Taxes.

Much more accurate and valid framework to view the Dems vs the Rep.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:56 | 3655931 PiratePawpaw
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They may be on different teams, but we are the pawns on their chessboards.

You can always reset the board for another match, but good oponents are hard to come by.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:11 | 3655696 bank guy in Brussels
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Re Russia and Syria, the offbeat military and intelligence agency veterans' site, Veterans Today, has an amazing claim that Russia is on the verge of being ready to destroy Israel with a nuke, and they have told Obama this

FWIW -

Article says that Syria recently sank an Israeli submarine with nuclear missiles, involved in operations against Syria

And that in revenge, some of the recent explosions in Syria were actually a small but nuclear cruise missile warhead fired by Israel

In response to that, Putin not only deployed the Russian missile defence throughout Syria, but also called Obama, and said the next time Israel uses a nuclear weapon, Russia will destroy Israel with a nuke in response

Article says two sides fight for control inside the US regime (the shadow government in favour of Israel, more traditional military and other forces now opposed to it)

Amazing if it would be true ... last days of Israel, as quite a number of prominent Jews themselves (Henry Kissinger, Israeli journalist Barry Chamish) have suggested

But perhaps World War III as well

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/03/1st-super-governmental-world-war...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:15 | 3655725 max2205
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Oberonekanobie dont care about Israel. ...poof

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:51 | 3655897 NotApplicable
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Besides, destruction of Israel is a major part of WWIII, as it demonstrates the need to have a level of government "higher" than that of current nation states who can't stop fighting each other.

"It's the end of history!"

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:42 | 3656162 Go Tribe
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Please. If Israel was destroyed tomorrow, no one would care. There is no God's chosen children, the Jews aren't special, and we are not their fucking fans or slaves. They incinerate the same as anyone.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:25 | 3656053 Kirk2NCC1701
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Buddy, this is recycled mythology that's been deemed non-credible and debunked.  It's not the first time this has been posted in ZH.  Seems to be ab UN-Dead story that refuses to die.  Probably because something this juicy creates a lot of site visits.  "Follow the money"  :-)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:42 | 3656165 Winston Churchill
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The Sampson option.

I hope part of the Sampson option is a large nuke in the Israeli embassy in DC.

It would be fitting for our co opted congressscritters to die at

the hands of the people that bribed them.Probably using the plutonium they

stole/bought from from that DC scum(apologies to non Washington scum).

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:13 | 3656907 tip e. canoe
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winston, on that note, check out the tinfoil re: the high rad readings over the israeli consulate/embassy in NYC.

perhaps not too far stretched?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:22 | 3656343 Chump
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Posting the video that purports to show a mushroom cloud from a nuclear explosion in Syria would go a long way towards making that article credible.  Same for the satellite images.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:28 | 3655798 negative rates
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Hey i'm scared, aint you boys scared?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:35 | 3656390 Ignatius
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I used to fear the collapse, lately I pray for it.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:19 | 3657191 Clashfan
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I wonder if he's gonna show us what bad is.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:23 | 3656058 Go Tribe
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I hope Russia and China slaughter our troops. We need a playground bully lesson.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:04 | 3656271 Chump
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This is your second dumbfuck comment.  Maybe you don't value human life, but some people do.

I'd love to see the guilty punished for what they've done, but wanton slaughter and the annihilation of an entire country are insane things to "hope" for.  If death is your wish then go on and kill yourself, see what it's like.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:53 | 3656464 Go Tribe
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No one said anything about slaughtering a country. Just the troops we send there. Vietnam didn't teach us a thing apparently. I have no empathy for a sociopathic, mercantilist State with powerful armies that wants to impose its will everywhere. As for the leaders of this tragedy in a ditch, it's where they belong.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:09 | 3656503 Chump
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-13/us-propose-no-fly-zone-over-syria-concludes-use-chemical-weapons-against-rebels#comment-3656162

No one said anything about slaughtering a country. Just the troops we send there. 

What the hell is this "we" business?  You think killing a few hundred thousand grunts would actually teach the people who sent them to die a single thing?

Isn't there something on TV you should be watching?  You don't have any Cheetos that need eating?  Surely there's something you could be doing instead of dropping your mental turds around here.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:10 | 3656299 tsx500
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is that you , Barry ?  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:49 | 3656840 Dr. Sandi
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Careful. Right now, some intern at NSA is googling "Kaiser Sousa."

Hey, aren't you the Kaiser Sousa who invented the Sousaphone? Yeah, we know all about you.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:56 | 3655613 CitizenLame
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SHIT... NO OTHER WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:57 | 3655617 Schmuck Raker
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And the Russians just shipped a few Migs to Syria.

And the Russians will no doubt be training the Syrians in them.

And what could possibly go wrong?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:17 | 3655736 THX 1178
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I love the smell of proxy war in the morning.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:05 | 3655971 PiratePawpaw
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May not be so much proxy this time. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:58 | 3655618 toxic8
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I wonder if Assad will end up in the gutter, reamed by a metal rod

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655652 Truther
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FUCK YOU TROLL....

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:25 | 3656068 Go Tribe
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Hopefully we'll awaken to headlines of Obama, McCain and graham with poles up their asses and laying in a ditch.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:03 | 3656258 Winston Churchill
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Leave out the ditch.

Vlad the Impaler's victims  died in agony over many days.

Time to go back to traditional methods.

Their heads will end up on pikes as gravity works.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:20 | 3656746 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hopefully we'll awaken to headlines of Obama, McCain and graham with poles up their asses and laying in a ditch.

That's pretty much a typical weekend for Graham.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:58 | 3655619 The Master
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This is my shocked face.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:59 | 3655623 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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MOAR VIOLENCE MOAR DEATHS....MOAR PROFIT!!!!!!!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:59 | 3655624 lolmao500
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While in fascist NY...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57440895-501465/new-york-lawmaker...

New York lawmakers propose ban on anonymous online comments

Called the Internet Protection Act (A.8688/S.6779), the legislation would require a web site administrator to pull down anonymous comments from sites, including "social networks, blogs forums, message boards or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages."

The bill states:

A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.

Among the bills' sponsors are New York Assemblyman Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O'Mara, who say the proposed law is to fight cyberbullying.

It's for the childrenz! Bitchez!!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:01 | 3655633 fonzannoon
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lucky for me my name is actually fonzannoon.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:48 | 3655891 THX 1178
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I'm from the future you know. They actaully got it passed. Eventually they'll pass a bill forbidding the public from naming their children. Just ask THX 1193.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:15 | 3656020 QQQBall
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If It was a ban on Blacks naming their chillrens, then I am all for it.  NO more Lutundra Washingtons Sharmayne Kings is just fine with me.... Blacks should have a choice of three names for boys and girls - Bob, Jim or Bob or Mary, Alice or Mary. Easy to spell too.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:53 | 3655913 NotApplicable
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Myself, I've yet to even find a name that's applicable.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:04 | 3655969 Bay of Pigs
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Call me Fidel if you don't mind.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:59 | 3656247 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You can call me Darren. All my friends and data miners do.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:31 | 3656576 reTARD
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My name is retard. It pretty much includes all the sheeple.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:02 | 3655634 FreeMktFisherMN
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pretty soon it will be mandatory to vote, too. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655654 FreeMktFisherMN
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and to make sure their false dichotomous system for their NWO agenda is legitimized, they will 'take note' of anyone who writes in someone as opposed to voting for either of their selected puppets

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655672 FreeMktFisherMN
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oh wait, they probably already do that. 

In my poli sci class this term the TA and most of the class actually were in agreement it seemed that mandatory voting would be beneficial. I brought up how, you know, some people choose not to vote because it is legitimizing a sham, but the TA quickly turned the discussion to other bread and circuses.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655653 Rainman
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Jamie Squid's tentacleprints all over this

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3655660 bank guy in Brussels
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Will it apply as well to all the anonymously-posted lies on Wikipedia by CIA and Mossad agents ?

Everything on Wikipedia is 'anonymous' precisely to cover for US and Israeli intelligence officers

The fraud 'founder' of Wikipedia, Israeli-Mossad and CIA asset Jimmy Wales, is so high up in Mossad, he goes to intimate birthday parties of the President of israel.

Jimmy Wales was originally a pornography pusher, where Wales' willingness to support any sick crime, to help violate children, to lie or help kill innocent people, led him to be the CIA's choice to run the CIA Wikipedia project, and become the biggest internet fraudster in the world.

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The 'trick' of the CIA's Wikipedia is to have 90% of info appear 'neutral', content supplied by 'useful idiots' on topics the CIA finds unimportant -

So that giant enormous lies can be inserted on Wikimedia, whenever the CIA or Mossad want to deceive people, on targeted victims and 'special' topics, like US or Israeli dissidents.

Lies on the CIA's Wikipedia are intentionally multiplied over and over, in search results via the CIA's Google, at the top of search results, to crush and erase the truth.

Jimmy Wales and his staff give Wikipedia support to US and Israeli figures involved in the sickest crimes, violating the bodies of children or spreading lies to smear and murder US or Israeli dissidents.

« Wikipedia is hailed by Zionist Israel as "…the major source of information in the world." They even advertise, with standard Zionist chutzpah, that Wikipedia is "…under constant, paid review of Zionist assets." »  - Veterans Today, citing the following article

http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php/the-media/who-controls-th...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:31 | 3655813 negative rates
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Don't walk the plank just yet, were still in the shallow waters.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:31 | 3656095 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOL.  Isn't that the best time to 'walk the plank'?  ;-)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:11 | 3655708 Aurora Ex Machina
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New York Assemblyman Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O'Mara had better be really, really, really certain the NSA scrubbed everything, because they're now extremely choice targets for embarrassment. Worse yet, since they played the "for the children" gambit, I suspect the blacker trolls of 4chan-land will be looking for their children's mishaps as well.   It's also totally unworkable and these two clowns clearly don't understand how tech works. Ahh, I see now: two years ago, Dean Murray was subject to anonymous internet trolling claiming he beat his wife and his son was hiding in fear from him.

It's embarrassing your politicians can't even afford decent advisers to warn them of things like:

The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet.

 

Should have asked Glen Beck about that one.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:14 | 3655717 ALANBEEKMAN
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Living near SF, I didn't think any other state could be more 'left'

than the uber - Libs here on the Left Coast.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:55 | 3655924 NotApplicable
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Flyover states, FTW!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:24 | 3657199 Clashfan
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Lolmao, that's amazing. Ty.

That f'ing place... sorry, can't even think straight. TY. Just unbelievable.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:59 | 3655625 FreeMktFisherMN
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sanctions/no-fly=war. Even 'humanitarian aid' =war because all funds are fungible and therefore it is actually military aid (notice they usually deliver this 'aid' on destroyers).

when goods stop crossing borders soldiers start crossing borders

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 16:59 | 3655626 Catullus
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http://news.antiwar.com/2013/06/12/syrian-rebels-kill-60-shiites-in-east...

Slaughtered another 60 people.

The US has gone full retard on this one.

I would like the intelligence presented under oath. Or is it too much to ask that you lie to Congress before you engage in war?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:23 | 3656756 F. Bastiat
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Hussein Obama's main goal is the destruction of the United States.  Always have to keep that in mind, for better or worse.

Does this action advance that agenda? I don't think there's any question about that.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:54 | 3656853 Dr. Sandi
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BO's only goal is to do whatever the owners tell him to do. It's really that simple. He has no personal agenda because he can't afford one.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:11 | 3656901 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Marionettes don't have goals or agendas.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655629 earleflorida
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just as iraq's saddam was serve'd-up at the 'great-satan's-feast'... until?-- so too, will syria's assad be served up cold!

"Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat, until he eats them"   Samuel Butler c.1890   

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:01 | 3655637 ziggy59
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Contradicts the findings of the original reports...

Maybe Colin Powell just confirmed that Assad used chemical weapons...

Maybe its time these real war criminals face justice..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:01 | 3655639 ALANBEEKMAN
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So many scandals, what to do?

'Wag the Dog'.....anyone?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:01 | 3655641 lolmao500
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Now Assad will probably load up his chemical weapons and point them at US bases in the area...including Israel and Turkey... Tens of thousands of civilians will probably die because of the treasonous scumbags in DC.

If I were in Israel, I would get the fuck out, STAT.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:08 | 3655686 StarTedStackin'
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as he should, when another country makes a deliberate act of agression against it.........

 

 

Remember, Obama has lied about everything.......everything!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:08 | 3656297 lakecity55
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John McCain would personally fly a WMD mission to kill US troops if he thought it would get things going.

The man is a total murderous psychopath.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:55 | 3656859 Dr. Sandi
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Maybe so, but he has a dark side as well.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:02 | 3655643 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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I wish the fucking yanks and the fucking poms would mind their own fucking business. I was born in England...hate the place (thanks to Blair and Cameron). I also hate USSA and will NEVER set foot in it (NB : but I like alot of individuals/scenery  in both countries)

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:11 | 3655707 TheGardener
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With that kind of attitude just conquer mainland Europe
and make them happy again. Once you established your rule,
all the better Americans would join you there to retake
the West.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655647 StarTedStackin'
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War = Distraction

 

What HASN'T the Obowel Movement lied about?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:03 | 3655648 OS2010
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WWIII begins, I fear.  Been nice knowing you folks.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3655659 Kirk2NCC1701
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Deputy CIA Director Avril Haines to propose a Hot Zone with Kinetic Activity.

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/06/13/2148591/new-cia-deputy-avril-haines-used-to-run-erotic-fiction-readings-at-her-bookstore-good-for-her/?mobile=nc

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3655664 A. Magnus
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Obama is fucking desperate! The only way that Goldman Sachs ball licker can keep his job is by firing up the war machine, because even his paymasters are seeing his corrupt ass as a liability. Time to start stacking Potassium Iodide pills, bitchez! Putin ain't gonna take Obama's bullshit...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:06 | 3655679 StarTedStackin'
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Is that for Polonium?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:57 | 3655937 NotApplicable
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Desperate? Drunk, more likely.

Here's a clue, he doesn't make ANY decisions more important than how many sheets of toilet paper to use. Even then, he still checks with the wife first.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655665 q99x2
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Hope this lasts a while because McCain will be hiring Al-Qaeda to attack the US next.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655674 PaperBear
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F**k off.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:05 | 3655675 eaglerock
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Like everything else in the Mideast, isn't this about Sunni vs Shiite?   Not my problem.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3655759 TheGardener
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It is about self hate and the ethnic cocktail it derives from.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:00 | 3655949 NotApplicable
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The problem can be fully expressed by the following equation.

My pipeline > Your pipeline. (would also accept "empire")

Anything else is merely rhetoric.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:58 | 3656243 teolawki
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Not to nitpick, but the most basic form of that age old equation is:

My pipe > your pipe.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:06 | 3655676 Joe A
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And so it begins. No coicidence then that F-16 were already deployed in Jordania.

Now the usual bag of tricks: several votes in UNSC which get shot down by Russia and China followed by some 'humanitarian tragedy' or human rights violation, etc. But the stakes are really high now so whatever will trigger the intervention, it will be big.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:04 | 3656270 lakecity55
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I though Libya already proved the criminal USG will invade whether it has UN "permission" or not.

Fellow Americans, our 'government' has gone completely Rogue.

They will murder us with no concern whatever when the time comes.

I bet McPain is lusting over the idea of shooting Arizonians in the back of the head.

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:57 | 3656751 F. Bastiat
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Semper vigilant. Now more than ever.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:06 | 3655678 Z_End
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Ahh yes... Must get those pesky distractions off the front page and evening news.

From what I gather, the whole NSA thing has really tipped the cart over.

Wonder what is next? Russian reaction? Should be an interesting weekend of posturing.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:10 | 3655701 ziggy59
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Yeah...these things are planned months in advance...Snowden was being looked for before the story was released...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:29 | 3656370 TheGardener
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What if the Russians love there children too and are duly
part of the game ? Imperialists NOT united is our last chance.

NWO dwells on maximum disorder though, so make no mistake,
war will only really start when this is "over".

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:09 | 3656500 Kirk2NCC1701
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I would dearly like to believe this, were it not for some very nagging string of facts to the contrary:

1. NATO keeps pushing its boundary further East toward Russia.  Why do they need Finland, Ukraine and Georgia in 'NATO', if not for Encirclement?

2. NATO won't let Russia into NATO.

3. US has decided to build the anti-ICBM missiles (Iron Dome) in Eastern Poland, and won't disclose to Russia the basic trajectory info -- like speed profile -- as a sign of good faith that it's not intended to be used against Russia.  And never mind that they won't place them on Russian soil, since that's clearly closer to the "nuclear Iran".

At some superficial level they are cooperating -- like two companies that cooperate and compete on a selective but tactical basis -- but the strategic intent is Total Victory, make no mistake about it.

Think: Simplicity, Clarity, Occam's Razor.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:06 | 3655681 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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Those Qatari-paid FSA cunts are fucking animals. And now Mr focking Obomber wants to aid them...he needs to be assassinated!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 21:58 | 3656868 Dr. Sandi
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As I repeatedly remind the world, "President Biden" doesn't strike me as the instrument of change.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:09 | 3655688 luckylongshot
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How can you conclude anything when there is no evidence to support your conclusion?. Perhaps you can conclude that Congress is full with evil lying warmongers...not much more though.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:09 | 3655689 dick cheneys ghost
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Obummer finally got the message to escalate, lest he be 'watergated'........

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:31 | 3656545 Kirk2NCC1701
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I think you're 'bang on'.  He may be trying to do his high-wire act (let Wall St and the MIC have their way, as long as he gets his Green and Social programs), and he may be trying to slow/pace the MIC ambitions, but they want to go faster to stay on track & schedule with he Neocon/MIC/Likud agenda.

Him slowing things down allows not only for peaceful solutions, but also buys Russia time in its weapons development.  Not to mention that it buys time for Iran to 'go Hot' -- for defensive purposes (given Israel's hundreds of nukes), regardless of their rhetoric which is designed for internal consumption anyway.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 00:53 | 3657259 Clashfan
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DCG, I don't pretend to know anything much about this situation, but I admit to fearing that you are absolutely accurate here.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:09 | 3655693 max2205
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Obamerama to waste $ 100 mill to go to Africa...unreal

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamas-family-trip-africa-cost-60-10...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:29 | 3655799 ALANBEEKMAN
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He has a burning desire to visit his roots.

The daughters finally get to meet their cousins, aunts and uncles.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:29 | 3656086 Go Tribe
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Perhaps a god African will plant Obama six feet under. He'll grow good roots at that depth.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:38 | 3656146 rivoniaboy
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He should try walking down the main street in Johannesburg at midnight, to see how well South Africa has progressed.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 06:15 | 3657481 Parrotile
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Central Joburg has had a (VERY) justifiably bad reputation as THE worst city for violence / murder in SA for a very long time. Everyone's heard of Soweto (remember the riots!), but I can tell you from personal experience Hillbrow is far worse. Never, EVER stop there in a car at night, no matter what the reason. Red lights are treated as "give way if you REALLY must", if you want to survive.

Durban and Pretoria are not good either (very marginally "less dangerous" that Joburg), whilst Cape Town is pretty OK even at night (with a dose of common sense). More "Rural" Western and Eastern Cape towns have a no worse crime rate than most European towns. Places such as Paarl, Stellenbosch, Worcester, Agulhas, are all "pretty LOW crime" for the population density.  If you want to stay near a big hub - the more outlying districts of Cape Town are just as good and quiet - you can't really beat Hout Bay!

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:10 | 3655697 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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Will the Kenyan get another Peace Price.?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:10 | 3655699 MrBoompi
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To go along with our manipulated markets, the US goverment must manipulate the intelligence coming out of Syria.  Why do they even pretend anymore?  Can we just admit we are a fascist totalitarian country run by oligarchs with imperialistic desires and do away with pretense?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:13 | 3655714 A. Magnus
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I admit that in practically every half-intelligent conversation I have, only most of the brainwashed, mouth-breathing shitbags just can't bring themselves to admit that the propaganda they've had shoved down their throats all their lives is bullshit...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 22:01 | 3656874 Dr. Sandi
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Which is exactly why the media bullshit continues. If it stopped working, this country would split open like a dead pig on a summer afternoon.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:12 | 3655710 lolmao500
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Good thing that the Syrian war will kick off... I mean, America needs more radical immigrants right??

U.S. considers taking in Syrian refugees

A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

The State Department is "ready to consider the idea," an official from the department said, if the administration receives a formal request from the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Refugees, which is the usual procedure.

The United States usually accepts about half the refugees that the U.N. agency proposes for resettlement.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-ref...

A few more news items...

Obama family trip to Africa later this month? $60-100 MILLION...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-trip-to-africa-poses-speci...

Free speech? What's that? Supreme Court Bans Protests On Its Grounds

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/supreme-court-bans-protests_n_3...

Fourth amendment? What's that? NSA chief drops hint about ISP Web, e-mail surveillance

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589078-38/nsa-chief-drops-hint-about...

Censor mail? Why not? Lindsey Graham: ‘If I thought censoring the mail was necessary, I would suggest it’

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/lindsey-graham-thought-censoring-mail...

Dissent is treason! Main Core: A List Of Millions Of Americans That Will Be Subject To Detention During Martial Law

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/main-core-list-of-millions-of-americ...

Reid Blocks Senate Vote on Border Security Amendment to Immigration Bill

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/12/Floor-Fight-Reid-bloc...

'It’s like a job fair in here': Mexican cartels tap U.S. prisons to get ‘criminal talent’ to join as drug runners and assassins on release

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338679/It-s-like-job-fair-Mexic...

Schumer: 'Illegal Immigration Will Be a Thing of the Past'

After the U.S. Senate voted to pass the motion to proceed to floor debate on the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) claimed that this bill would solve illegal immigration and secure the border.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/11/Schumer-makes-impassi...

More gun control coming... Boehner meets with Newtown families

House Speaker John Boehner told CNN his meeting with the family members of those killed in the Sandy Hook school shootings was "very good."

The group sat down with Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor at the Capitol on Wednesday afternoon to discuss their efforts to push for legislation aimed at reducing gun violence.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/12/boehner-meets-with-newto...

One law for thee and one law for me... Obamacare? We were just leaving …

Dozens of lawmakers and aides are so afraid that their health insurance premiums will skyrocket next year thanks to Obamacare that they are thinking about retiring early or just quitting.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/obamacare-lawmakers-health-insuran...

America has become Obamanistan.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:58 | 3655941 Yen Cross
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     Nice call on the Syria escalation news last night lolmao500.  

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:12 | 3656308 lolmao500
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It was just obvious...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:03 | 3656260 teolawki
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How nice. Immigration Swedish style?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:13 | 3655715 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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Will the Kenyan get another Peace Price.? Just read that article on the cost of his junket to Africa. Fuck me!. Pity is that when his term expires he will get security for life. He will be a survivor the impending shit fight. He has served his illuminati overlords well. I think he's a cunt

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:16 | 3655732 lolmao500
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Anybody else finds this funny that they waited until 1AM Moscow Time to make that declaration??

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:20 | 3655753 ziggy59
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Wouldnt want to be the one to wakey wakey putin with that news...wonder if he sleeps with cucumber slices on his eye..

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:44 | 3655875 Dave Thomas
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Actually Putin is a night owl, he's probably riding a clydsdale topless with a samaurai sword and an iphone. Wouldn't want to be one of his minders.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:52 | 3655899 IridiumRebel
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Holy shit that was funny. 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:46 | 3656187 Go Tribe
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Are you kidding me? Putin doesn't sleep, he makes Obama sleep for him.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:59 | 3656246 lakecity55
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Dick is Vlad's Pussy Boy.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:46 | 3655861 reload
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Timing: interesting on many levels. Presidential elections in Iran tomorrow. Remember last time? IIRC there were a few weeks of power vacumr/rioting before Amadinijad was sworn in. From what I understand there a 6 horses in the race, just one of whom is regarded as a reformer by the west.

The usual suspects are probably very busy behind the curtain right about now.

Fuck, I am sick of this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 19:19 | 3656325 lolmao500
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Yep... Once Syria kicks off... Lebanon and Iran will too... Iraq probably too...

Chances are, no-fly zone planes will come from Turkey... Assad in response will probably launch missiles in Turkey... pushing the Turkish people behind Erdogan... and now you understand why Erdogan said ``the protests will end within 24 hours``...

It's all tied together... prepare for some massive shitstorm... if you're in eastern Turkey... GTFO.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:17 | 3655737 gimli
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It's time to pray, everyone kneel behind your dog .....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/dog-butt-looks-like-jesus-photo...

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3655791 gimli
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We will all come to the lord in the end ......................

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:17 | 3655738 10mm
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Sarah Palin will be rejoining FAUX news.Now return to your normal broadcast news.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3655762 StarTedStackin'
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You gotta admit she's ten times as qualified as the current Commander-in-Chimp.........

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:26 | 3655784 samsara
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And   10 x  0 =   ?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:43 | 3655873 Esso
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10 x 0 = 100

New Normal Math.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:50 | 3655894 IridiumRebel
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a hundred?

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:18 | 3655740 q99x2
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Invade Qatar and Saudi Arabia and re-distribute their stolen wealth. McCain thinks small got the face of someone with a little dick too.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:19 | 3655742 Catullus
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John McCain and Lindsey Graham are enemies of humanity. McCain is a traitor that gave away flight paths to the North Vietnamese when he was supposedly "tortured" by the captures he bombed illegally. And by tortured, they pampered him, put him on the radio, and paraded him to peace talks as a sign the Americans had given up. And why? Because the N Vietnamese knew he was an admiral's son. High value captive.

And when anyone (including the POW's surviving family) he screams at them like some lunatic.

1st class piece of shit.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3655761 lolmao500
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They should have put a bullet in his head... would have save the world a lot of trouble.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 18:48 | 3656199 Go Tribe
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Someone should break his legs.

Thu, 06/13/2013 - 20:36 | 3656599 Kirk2NCC1701
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