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Bill Gross Opines On Fed's "Deep Throat"

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When even the man who runs the world's largest, $1+ trillion bond fund (excluding the Fed's of course) is publicly bringing attention to the disclosures by the Fed's favorite mouthpiece, you have to laugh, or at least crack a joke or two about market "fundamentals" (may they Rest in Peace).

 

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Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:46 | 3658209 Sudden Debt
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Markets are fucked. If they don't break down completly today, that just means you get another day to prepare.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:36 | 3658442 NotApplicable
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Anybody else read that tweet as "delivering?"

I thought for a second that the rat was being thrown under the bus for attracting too much of the wrong kind of attention.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 18:32 | 3659640 espirit
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Did Gross call the Fed a "cocksucker"?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:51 | 3658227 syntaxterror
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Get the hell off Twitter and start managing my investment, fucker.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:53 | 3658230 NOTW777
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why is hilsenrath always smiling - that smarny, arrogant smirk 

when will the lying and manipulation cease

we know the economy is on life support - ben cannot lessen the flow of drugs even a tiny bit or the patient is gone

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:03 | 3658273 azzhatter
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He likes the taste of Bernanke's jizm

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:54 | 3658236 mjorden
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How are college kids ever going to be incentivized to move out?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:10 | 3658304 Petrus Romanus
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It looks increasingly like that expensive college education is nothing more than a mindless consumer product at this point. People do it because it is expected and is still somewhat of a status symbol, much like wearing a Rolex or driving a Mercedes, but in reality college has become a money making scam for the schools. They know that 99% of the graduates will get little to no benefit from their degrees, even though they, and society, still hold up having a degree as the best path to success out there. Disgusting because it is a conscious, premeditated dilusion they are selling to the masses. We are past the time when college matters and are well into the realm of it's not what you know but who you know/ who you are related to.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:12 | 3658327 mjorden
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I agree and disagree.

 

STEM degress are still important.  The problem is that a majority of degress are the same as working for a few years ... but without the work.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 14:58 | 3659060 Panafrican Funk...
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I would suggest that philosophy is the one liberal arts degree that has real world value.  It's too damn expensive though.  Same with the STEM degrees; takes fucking forever to generate a positive ROI, and the coming immigration bill will cap/drop salaries considerably as tech/bio companies "insource" cheap foreign labor by the truckload (already being done, but will massively ramp).  

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:37 | 3658447 NotApplicable
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Foreclosure, of course.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:55 | 3658240 Flakmeister
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Gotta get some popcorn for this one...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:57 | 3658245 Dr. Engali
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Poor Bill no longer in the club on the outside looking in. Better buy some more treasuries and average down.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:26 | 3658381 TheEdelman
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Thats why I listen to him.  He's out of the club and his entire lifes work is getting shit on.  

Think Man on Fire (the movie)... his words should be, at minimum, noted. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:59 | 3658252 Stoploss
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I got the title for Ben's book..

 

The Hard Way - How Inept Interpretation Destroyed The Global Economy.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:59 | 3658255 Yen Cross
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  Who cares what "Baby Breath" Gross has to say. He talks out of his mouth, and buys treasuries out of his ass.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 11:59 | 3658257 PAWNMAN
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Even the pros, if they're honest. are tiring of this charade. Only the used car salesman on CNBS have the gall to keep slinging this garbage!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:01 | 3658265 Enceladus
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Hilsenrath’s focus on policy rate VERY interesting.

Any care to assist me on why this aspect is 'VERY' interesting?

Is it becuase policy rates are a joke and non-starter vs the fact the statement leaves the door open for all other rate to rise?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:16 | 3658349 ebworthen
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Hilsenrath is a member of the FED jaw-boning team.

Markets did not do well with the suggestion of tapering, and 10 year T-Bill rates spiked.

By telegraphing that rates won't be raised by the FED, the markets can maintain their disconnect from reality and rates will remain suppressed.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:34 | 3658432 NotApplicable
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Or as Brother Maynard sings...

"GO BACK TO SLEEP!"

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:35 | 3658751 optionsman
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all that is true but both of the articles Hilsy's articles contain nothing new. the interesting aspect is that by making him publish these articles the Fed communicates that they are watching the markets and that they are concerned with the markets reaction. question is whether this concern will extend to removing tapering off agenda altogether and until then- more of the same- wild daily swings based in marginal changes of market participants expectations for the Fed's QE tapering or not tapering......

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 16:05 | 3659262 ebworthen
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Carrot closer to the mule's nose...carrot farther away...carrot closer...farther away...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:31 | 3658417 The Master
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My take:  By focusing on policy rate he is not denying that tapering will occur sooner rather than later (may have already started in my opinion)

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:10 | 3658308 Archetype
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HilsenRAT is a FED-tool only, a useful idiot. Only the Bernank and a few selected others knows whats coming.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:11 | 3658318 ebworthen
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Where is Marilyn Chambers when you need her?

Alas...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:13 | 3658332 Sutton
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Hillsy has some wig . 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:14 | 3658338 Spitzer
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Speaking of throats, does Billy have that rag out of his yet? Listen to the guy....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:46 | 3658794 EclecticParrot
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Rather than "deep throat", with the associated Watergate or porn metaphors, etc., I think of Hilsen-wrath as more of a Cyrano style figure, whispering from the bushes what the Bearded One is too shy to blurt out himself.  One can imagine he and Bernakus at lunch ("golly, can you tell these bond guyz to stop already, sometimes I get so angry ...")

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3658805 New American Re...
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These markets are going to take off again right after the 22nd.   2013 is going to be a banner year, suck all the public back in the market, and starting in 2014 start back down to sideways with a crushing blow in 2015/16.   Ben can't back off the throttle and somewhere, sometime, inflation is going to start workign on the bond market   When that happens, it all turns to shit and we have a revolution while were up to our eyeballs in the war the Obama is building in the Middle East.   Say good bye to the economy, stability, Obamacare, SS, Medicare, markets and say hello to gold, silver, platinum, guns, ammo, water, food, generators.  Revolutions are very bad things that people are incapable of imagining.   No one goes untouched.  Cheers

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 14:19 | 3658915 poydras
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The prescription is to financially repress and devalue until debt is brought under control and comptetive equilibrium is restored.  It may take over $3T more before inflation sets in.  The Fed is likely to monetize most of the govi debt before this is over.  The UK has run seriously negative rates for years now.  The serious devaluation has yet to begin...Buying and holding the 2009 equity lows is the clear winner so far...

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