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Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Well, isn't that convenient?  At the moment when the Obama administration is feeling more heat then ever before, it starts another war.  Suddenly everyone in the mainstream media is talking all about Syria and not about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA snooping or any of the other political scandals that have popped up in recent weeks.

As if on cue, Obama made headlines all over the globe on Thursday by claiming that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons against the rebels "multiple times", and that the U.S. was now ready to do more to assist the rebels.  That assistance is reportedly going to include "military support" for the rebels and a no-fly zone over at least part of Syria is being discussed.  Without a doubt, these are acts of war, and this conflict is not going to end until Assad has been ousted.  But Assad will not go quietly. 

And all it would take is for Assad to fire a couple of missiles at Tel Aviv for a huge regional war to erupt in the Middle East.  And what happens if Russia or China decides to get involved in the conflict in Syria?  Obama is playing with fire, but he has shown again and again that he is willing to do virtually anything if it will benefit him politically.

As far as the Obama administration is concerned, there is no such thing as a coincidence.  The timing of this announcement regarding Syria was not an accident.  If Obama wanted to use chemical weapons as an excuse to go after Syria he could have done it weeks ago, or he could have waited several more months before taking action.  He chose to do it right now for a reason, and hopefully the American people will be able to see right through this.

So exactly what are we going to be doing for the Syrian rebels?  Well, we will definitely be arming them and training them.  And it is probably reasonable to assume that there will be American "advisers" on the ground inside Syria helping to organize the Syrian resistance.  In fact, according to Debka, a large U.S. Marine force has already been deployed to the Jordanian border with Syria.

In addition, according to the Wall Street Journal, U.S. aircraft may be involved in enforcing a no-fly zone inside Syria...

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

 

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

 

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

No matter how you slice it, the United States is now in a state of war with Syria.  The only question is how "involved" we are going to get.

And several prominent Republicans are already rushing forward to applaud Barack Obama on this latest move.  The following comes from a CBS News report...

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who met with the rebels last month and has been a vocal critic of the president's Syria policy said in a joint statement with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: "We appreciate the President's finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President's red line has been crossed. U.S. credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions."

But you know what?  Many of these Syrian rebels have actually pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The whole point of the "war on terror" was to supposedly fight al-Qaeda, but now the U.S. military is allied with them.

Why in the world would we want to help the people who are supposed to be our greatest global enemy?...

A Syrian rebel group's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda's replacement for Osama bin Laden suggests that the terrorist group's influence is not waning and that it may take a greater role in the Western-backed fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.

 

The pledge of allegiance by Syrian Jabhat al Nusra Front chief Abou Mohamad al-Joulani to al-Qaeda leader Sheik Ayman al-Zawahri was coupled with an announcement by the al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq, that it would work with al Nusra as well.

 

Lebanese Sheik Omar Bakri, a Salafist who says states must be governed by Muslim religious law, says al-Qaeda has assisted al Nusra for some time.

 

"They provided them early on with technical, military and financial support , especially when it came to setting up networks of foreign jihadis who were brought into Syria," Bakri says. "There will certainly be greater coordination between the two groups."

This group of jihadists has been responsible for car and suicide bombings all over Syria, and they are the ones that have been doing the heaviest fighting on the front lines...

When the group Jabhat al Nusra first claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries claimed that the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad and to hide the regime’s own brutal tactics.

 

Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.

 

Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.

 

The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaida in Iraq – an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.

These are no "freedom fighters".  In fact, if these guys take over they will be much worse than Assad.  These "rebels" recently massacred an entire villages of Christians, and just two days ago they slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed...

The rebels, according to ABC News’ reconstruction of the Syrian groups’ reports, appear to have whipped Qatta. When they brought him back to where they’d taken him, his head was wrapped by a shirt.

 

The rebels waited for a crowd to gather; Qatta’s parents were among them. Speaking in classical Arabic, they announced that Qatta had committed blasphemy and that anyone else who dared insult the Prophet Mohammed would share his fate. Then, the shirt still wrapped around the boy’s head, the rebels shot him in the mouth and neck.

Is this really who the U.S. government wants to be allies with?

Are we that stupid?

And guess what?  According to the Los Angeles Times, the Obama administration is considering plans to bring all of the poor "refugees" that are allied with these "rebels" to the United States...

Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns.

 

A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

But now we are committed to this conflict thanks to Obama.

There will be no backing down until Assad is gone.

Of course this could create a huge regional war in the Middle East or even eventually lead to World War III, but Obama doesn't seem to care.

For now, Obama is saving his own skin, and that is the most important thing to him.

 

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Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:19 | 3659985 seataka
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Yes I think so. Cornered rat syndrome with nuclear weapons in his back pocket.

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:25 | 3659999 mick68
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No, he's pretending to start a war. That should be enough to get the media and sheeple to forget the scandals without him actually doing anyting, as usual.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:28 | 3660013 DoChenRollingBearing
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I trust nothing Obama does.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:36 | 3660042 Zer0head
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starting....

I think you mean making public what has been going on for a year

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:20 | 3660138 Richard Chesler
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It's going to take more than a little war to divert attention from Obozo's corruption. Journalistic integrity of the media will p..., oh wait, ... never mind. Carry on.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:45 | 3660172 john39
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this war has been planned for a very long time, longer than obama has bee. alive.  the obama scandals are just part of the matrix, all to get their coveted new world order in place.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:10 | 3660220 CrazyCooter
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For years now, I have been settled down and enjoy the sounds of the Texas Americana music scene (e.g. www.KHYI.com), but this calls for some really classic metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_UIkS5m9gc

Regards,

Cooter

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:21 | 3660243 JohnnyBriefcase
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Isn't this right about the time that North Korea gets all mouthy again?

 

So much has happened recently that I'm getting the script all confused.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:11 | 3660371 Ginsengbull
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Kim Jong hasn't been checking his e-mail lately.

 

He's afraid the NSA will tell his wife about all the round-eye porn sites in his browser history.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:43 | 3660557 GetZeeGold
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It doesn't matter who anyone is anymore.....just weaponize them and hope for the best.

 

+90 I trust nothing Obama does.

-1 

There's always that one guy.

 

I wouldn't worry.....1 out of 90 still support him. I wouldn't rule out Congress declaring war however. Boenher could use a distraction right about now.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:58 | 3660678 RSloane
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Boenher will support Obama's warmongering just as much as Pelosi supported Bush's which was considerable. This two party system sham becomes more and more evident; the only thing distinguishing them are the words used in their empty speeches and the demographics of their blind adoring supporters.

Boenher is a disgrace; its apparently becoming a job requirement for speaker of the house.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:21 | 3660699 Spastica Rex
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It's TV worth watching.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 14:53 | 3661162 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is wait for full length motion picture and download torrent.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:00 | 3660574 SimMaker
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In these enlightened times, where up is down, good is bad and left is right........I am surprised they have not renamed Hellfire missiles to Heavens Ice-Cream.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:27 | 3660704 noless
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Elysium sorbet.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:58 | 3660535 ISEEIT
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Why would NK sweat? The entire western world is coming around to their way of thinking quite nicely. It occured to me a while back that NK has been a lab to test NWO 'organizational' techniques on a mass scale under real conditions for quite some time.

Wanna know the future humanity? Study NK.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:11 | 3660685 RSloane
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I, for one, can wait for the gov't demanding that citizens gather in front of the WH daily and group dance to some lame excuse for 'patriotic' music. Smiles are not optional. You must be grateful for the Dear Leader's gracious arrangements for your recreation.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:31 | 3660708 noless
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I swear to God that's where we're headed and it pisses me off to no end.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:32 | 3660919 RSloane
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:15 | 3660230 knukles
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Bam!
As I wrote earlier, it's at times just as these facing us with rigged markets (name one that isn't BTW) which are at the mercy of TPTB, many of whom are bureaucrats, career politicians and academics attempting the heavy lifting of statesmanship, leadership, central banking and fiscal policy whilst manipulated by the monied interests, when nothing has been fixed, everything gotten worse and deteriorating further, that financial holdings of the top of the capital structure offset by real assets, PMs and at times commodities, should likely prove the safe harbor of capital preservation as wealth evaporates.

These is no longer an investment business of wealth maximization, it is a business of capital preservation amongst the madness. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:56 | 3660288 BoNeSxxx
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Hey Knuk... OT but WTF happened to McMolotov?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:43 | 3660615 BurningFuld
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Fema camping trip.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 08:04 | 3662298 IrritableBowels
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banned

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:56 | 3660358 Ginsengbull
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I'm sticking with lead, brass, copper, and canned goods.

 

Sure, it's heavy, but I'm not going anywhere.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:23 | 3660439 cossack55
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"name one that isn't"

OK

Black Market

How's that, Knuck?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:38 | 3660527 overmedicatedun...
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don't worry McCain is backing his play, two parties the joke of the day. the monster now called DC is fully in view, but most continue with eye's wide shut.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:27 | 3660597 RSloane
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Iran is the bull's-eye. We have fucked with their economy so badly that their ability to fight their way back from hyperinflation is questionable at best. McCain and Obama should be so pleased, as of yet we have not fired even a rubber bullet in their cities but have caused more decimation of their country than if we had sent in thousands of drones. Iran has always been the 'crown jewel' and it has always been our goal to capture it or destroy it, stated or not. At the end of the day which approximates the end of whatever honor we have left, our - and I mean all of the west to one degree or another - destablization of the Middle East will not stop until Iran falls.  

Iran had the largest turnout in their history yesterday for their elections. They had to keep extending hours so everyone who wanted to vote, could. They stood in long lines, hour after hour, from sun up to sun down, to cast their ballots. They remained cheeful, bouyant, and proud throughout the process, their energy and hope filmed by news crews and broadcast all over the world.  Compare that to voter turn out in the US. Maybe we hate them for their people who cherish their freedoms.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 15:29 | 3661215 RockyRacoon
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Interesting how the moderate won the election... and that Erin Burnett is over there showing us how "human" the Iranians are and how they do NOT hate Americans.   Something is afoot.   I ain't smart enough to figger it out.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some garbage cans to knock over.  I'm way late on my trash run.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 18:23 | 3661472 willwork4food
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I aree. Isn't Burneet a part of the CFR? So it will ultimately be a humanitarian mission-to free them from fundamental moslem crazies.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:22 | 3660239 Ident 7777 economy
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" Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals? "

 

Ah hell no! This is just another excuse to support those effing Muzzies!

 

Tell me THAT  AIN'T  THE  TRUTH!

 

 

ARAB SPRING (summer?) TAKE II.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:26 | 3660252 john39
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Support Muslims by killing them and destroying their countries? I think you have a problem with your logic.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:32 | 3660256 Ident 7777 economy
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Effing idiot ... the rebels ARE the Muzzies ... are you really that stupid?

 

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ... getting it yet?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:32 | 3660261 john39
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So are the people they are killing.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:34 | 3660262 Ident 7777 economy
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Obviously, you are stupid and beyond reach ...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:47 | 3660275 john39
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Guess so. But still... So dumb in fact that I just can't figure out why so called Sunni Muslims are so eager to kill so called Shiite Muslims. If I were smarter I might try to spot the hidden hand creating all the racial, religious and ethnic conflict, controlling the central banks, subverting the American political system, poisoning the world with gmo crops, pesticides and radiation. Yeah, I might try and think about that...

If I was smarter, I might also wonder why obamas entire administration is over run with zionists... Say, since you are so smart, maybe you know... Are all those zionists in obamas administration also closet Muslims. Do tell. How about the central bankers, secret Muslims too? Holy shit, it's better to be stupid isn't it, things are so much easier to understand that way.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:45 | 3660467 Henry Hub
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I hope you're not saying that all the Zionists in the administration want the U.S. to attack Syria...that would be too unbelievable. /sarc

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:17 | 3660793 Theosebes Goodfellow
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@Ident: To understand what is going on at any time in the Muslim world you have to understand who and what Mohammad was. It is only through that prism that you can comprehend why any political/military events occur, from the Egyptian "uprising", Erdogan fighting Attaturkians (yes, I'm coining the term), to Pakistan, Iran, the "instability" in Iraq and the actions of al-Qaida.

1.) Mohammad was the disenfranchised great-grandson of the owner of a rock idol in the 7th century A.D. (At the time there were over 300 such rock idols in what became the Qa-aba.) Being shut out of the family business and understanding that the whole idol/god biz was where it was at, he decided he needed a "better" god. So he went to the local Jews to learn about theirs, (since they were the ones with a written language). He demanded that they read him their "book", since he was like all arabs at the time, without a written language and hence illiterate. The Jews laughed him off. (This really pissed him off at Jews.) He went away and came back and offered them money for them to read the Talmud to him. Their reaction was understandable. "Well, if you're going to pay us to read it to you...". So they did. That is where ol' Moe got the info to incorporate the Jews book into his Qur'an.

2.) Mohammad was an opportunist pirate, extortionist mass-murderer. The fact that he was incestual and a pedophile is pertinent only in rounding out our understanding of him. Islam is the cult of Mohammad. He is the epitome of how Muslim men should behave. (Starting to get the picture?) Mohammad, (and consequently Islam), was all about the booty, (prizes seized from opponents and those subjugated by whoever is the top guy in power wherever Islam is being used to control the populace). This includes money, women, (of all ages), land and power.

In short, it's all about who gets to be top dog. That's it. Building a better future, helping the disadvantaged, leveling the playing field, supporting the Rule of Law, democratic rule, those are all "western" notions and have no home in Islam. Islam is the blunt object used to hammer down opponents and the local peoples.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Islams_Terrorist_Dogma_in_Muham...

Three Things About Islam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html

The above links can help those who wish to understand Islamofascism better. Please note: this is not a discourse on comparative religions, regardless of Henry H's sentiments about Zionism. It is strictly information on why certain shit happens because of Mohammad and Islam.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 15:14 | 3660972 john39
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the rule of law? hows that working out for the US and europe these days?  thanks for the propaganda.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 09:36 | 3662403 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Say Johnthreenine, nice piece of drive-by cynicism! We're in the mess we're in because we've abandoned the Rule of Law, not due to it. That said, how do you figure my post is "propaganda"? You're welcome to think and say so, but you aught to back up your statements if you are pot-shotting other people's post, don't ya' think? BTW, sentences begin with capital letters.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 12:31 | 3662740 Kirk2NCC1701
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Funny (strange) how all 3 'desert religions' have spread like weeds all over the planet, have caused more death & destruction on their watch, than all of prior human history, and are now threatening to engulf the world in flames.

So, unless you are an ardent follower/zealot of one these "religions" (world views), (a) Do You Trust Them, or (b) Do you think that these 'frozen' and ancient desert ideologies can solve the problems of a planet with 7 billion people in the 21st century?  Honestly.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 17:01 | 3661346 DaddyO
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Trav,

I see you've morphed...

DaddyO

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:20 | 3660240 BigDuke6
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What are you suggesting?

That a certain country/creed/people are developing a habit of getting their bonehead big brother into fights with their enemies and chorteling as big brother gets weaker?

These people would have to be so smart.

i'm not smart enough to figure it out.  and now its on the web - for perusal - forever.

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:16 | 3660300 JOYFUL
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Longer than any of us have been alive! It is in fact the continuance of a programme which has followed the dictates of a cabbalist strategy to fulfill the messianic return of Jerusalem to the Pharisees - in place long before "Zionism" was even invented as a term - and replicates(with the numerical exactitude so beloved to this cult) the pattern of the past two hundred years ...

in which we observe(1798) Napoleon moving 400 ships to the deserts of Eygpt... for what was fatuously proposed as 'to protect' French trade interests in the middle east(sound familiar?), and then sequentially invading Spain, the German countries, and bleeding his armies to death in the wastes of Russia... continental wars of gigantic cost and proportion, but profitable to those who lent the gold for those armies to be supplied. And ultimately "Napoleon in rags" was deserted and disparaged by they who had fed his delusions of imperial grandeur, his final comeuppance resulting in a coup by which his former financiers ended up owning the greater part of the wealth of England through a stock manipulation which left the landed gentry as 'bagholders' ... and the returned soldiers as penniless vagrants(1815)(sound familiar?)

Forward exactly one hundred years and a stirring of tensions in the "middle east" has created the proper conditions for a conflaguration of unprecedented scope... a British 'protectorate' in Eygpt... a dying Ottoman Empire and factional ethnic frictions... all encouraged by a shadowy group whose mode of operation is to gain the ears of the powerful through bribery, bullying, or blackmail, and set the destinies of nation states by controlling their foreign policies from behind the scenes. Please note that contrary to the thesis of this article... the present puppet president(2008-2016) has neither the authority or ability to 'start a war'... only to execute direct orders from headquarters! "we replaced the ruler by a caricature of a president, taken from the mob, from the midst of our puppet creatures, our slaves". from "the Protocols"(sound familiar?)

Their chief dupes of the moment(1909-17)... Balfour in England, Wilson in the USA*, are 'handled' in most mysterious manner to be complicit and docile tools to an agenda of giving over to a millenialist cult the interests of their respective nations.(sound familiar?) All in order that the chessboard be arranged so that a place called "Palestine" becomes a homeland for the sionist maipulators... who conspire against the jewish people(firmly antagonistic to the idea of being deported to a strange desert destination far from home) in order to use them as pawns in  the schemes of the rabbinical pharissee cult which controls them... and later be murdered in the many thousands to fulfil this involuntary deportation... by the machinations of the crypto-judaic criminals who hide amongst them!

And meanwhile,(1909-11) the pseudo-Moslem wing of this fanatical millenialist conspiracy, having successfully deposed the Sultan in Istanbul, are reaching into their Albanian hinterlands to foment a campaign of genocide against Christian highland clans ... using their new armies to foment a 'strategy of tension' which will encourage the outbreak of war in the Balkans... and a highway to their desired war of mass destruction between Russia and the European powers... all for the sake of their hegemonist millenialist cult... and the "greater Israel" which they seek through tearing down the nation states of Europe and the middle east... via a campaign of calculated terror and genocide...(sound familiar?)

*in 1910, "Colonel" Mandel House decides that Wilson should be the next president...Rabbi S Wise publicly proclaimed that he would indeed - for two terms! This sionist rabbi agitator had previously supported the Republicans... but switched his support to a candidate who campaigned on a 'no war' platform... and then plunged America into a gigantic one...(sound familiar?) to be continued! We are now on the edge of that same precipice... and being encouraged to jump by the same pharisee cult as had driven the world to two previous wars of destruction!

 "we received warm and heartening help from Colonel House...[who] not only made our cause the object of his very special concern but served as liaison officer between the Wilson administration and the Zionist movement". Wise

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:54 | 3660429 Oh regional Indian
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Superb commentary and historical recap Joyful...

 

ori

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:14 | 3660596 francis_sawyer
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I always knew those Bangladeshi's had it in for Napoleon[s]...

~~~

Frankly ~ The 'cabbalists' [because they'll FAIL spectacularly], don't bother me half as much as the idiot motherfucking sychophant watercarriers, [who don't even have a clue who they're supporting] in the name of slathering some facecake on themselves in the hopes of 'looking proper' in a false cocktail party decorum...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:24 | 3660650 chumbawamba
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Agreed.  Top notch.

-Chumblez.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:37 | 3660716 Iwanttoknow
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A+ commentary.Thanks.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:35 | 3660825 zapdude
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Wow.  Logged in just to +1 you.  Had to re-read this a few times just to chew & digest your points.  

It seems that vast swaths of western civilization is irreversibly bound to repeat the destructive sins of the past, as if we were a train on the tracks spiraling down to hell.  

While all hope is NOT lost and there are positive actions we can take for ourselves & families, the situation is quite grim.

Hey TBTF / TPTB / NWO / Satan -- F U !!!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:02 | 3660865 Cathartes Aura
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awareness empowers.

"eyes open, no fear"

~  suspicious observers (wot's in a name?)

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:23 | 3660316 HardAssets
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The question might very well be . . . . Are these various scandals from so many directions happening (and being reported in the MSM) because someone wants to make sure O starts a new war ?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:29 | 3660321 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup, it's what John39 said in his 3660172 posting.

Obama is, above all things, cornered and trying (or being allowed to) pursue his social agenda,while being emasculated on the True Foreign Policy, which is a Globalist/NWO agenda that is By, For and Of the Zealot Elite.

The scandals are PURELY for forcing him to take his foot off the War brakes. McShame & LG (Love Gays / Lindsey Graham) are cheap whores for the NWO Zealots. Zealots, who are ecstatic to have all countries in the ME save one, 'burn'. This is another proxy war for the sociopathic Likud. Not for 'Israel', but for the fucking Likud psychos.

[Sigh] Am amazed at the minds that are so easily distracted, confused and played by red herring (false) arguments.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:42 | 3660460 Greyhat
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A Syria war is at least since 9/13 on the table. Fast, aren't they? ;)

 

9/13/2001: "In response to the attack on September 11 JINSA calls on the United States to: ...

* Bomb identified terrorist training camps and facilities in any country harboring terrorists. Interdict the supply lines to terrorist organizations, including but not limited to those between Damascus and Beirut that permit Iran to use Lebanon as a terrorist base."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jinsa-this-goes-beyond-bin-laden...

 

They ordered seven countries in five years.

11/2001 "‘Here’s the paper from the Office of the Secretary of Defense [then Donald Rumsfeld] outlining the strategy. We’re going to take out seven countries in five years.’ And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran."

http://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/

 

And they reminded Obama in 2010 to do his job.

2010: "Look back at FDR and the Great Depression. What finally resolved that economic crisis? World War II.

Here is where Obama is likely to prevail. With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran's ambition to become a nuclear power, he can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/29/AR201010...

 

The usual blackmailing, they want their wars, you will give your blood for them, cause they starve you into surrender.

Everything all right, muppets, business as usual, just go away, nothing to see here! :)

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:46 | 3660178 SafelyGraze
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time for mccain to do some denouncing before he gets ndaa'd

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:20 | 3660898 eatthebanksters
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it took 26 months from the discovery of the Watergate affair until Nixon resigned.  I think it has been 9 months since Benghazi...other than Fast and Furious everything else is more recent. Obama is done.  He might actually be bounced before the end of his term.  How sad if our first black president might be bounced from office for corruption.  Wasn't he the face of hope and change and new and different things?  Only if you like corrupt commiesI guess...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 17:38 | 3661390 twh99
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If he is to be bounced, I hope it is after the 2014 elections.  Otherwise he can run for another full term.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:38 | 3660049 espirit
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"Transient" Al Queda rebels in Syria?  Seems those were our enemy in Iraq, and now we want to ally and arm them?

Anybody see/smell/taste something shitty with this?

Give them blanks to play with, if anything.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:11 | 3660221 mofreedom
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Barack husein milhouse husein obama husein osama husein bin husein laden husein IS AS MUSLIM.

END OF STORY!

amen...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:14 | 3660226 mofreedom
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and his social security number says he's from connecticut.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:17 | 3660234 knukles
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He has stated openly in the past of being a Kenyan citizen.
In his own words.
Hard to go back and check since he's sealed everything.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:36 | 3660264 mofreedom
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he's goin to africa ($100 MM to the printing press) to find his real birth certificate.

 

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/14/white-house-defends-high-b...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:53 | 3660500 Svendblaaskaeg
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"The excursion will involve military cargo planes airlifting 56 support vehicles, including 14 limousines, and three trucks to carry bulletproof glass panels to cover the windows where the first family is set to stay. A Navy aircraft carrier or amphibious ship with a fully staffed medical trauma center will be stationed offshore in case of an emergency.

Fighter jets will fly in shifts to provide around-the-clock protection over the president’s airspace. The trip will reportedly involve hundreds of Secret Service agents."

..somanabatchez!, thats a fargin big carbon-footprint, Manbearpig will be angry I'm sure....

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:28 | 3660521 malikai
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It's cool. They'll buy carbon offset credits with our money, too.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 13:44 | 3661041 americanspirit
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"Fighter jets will fly in shifts to provide around-the-clock protection over the president’s airspace".

I'm just wondering if there is just one true American at the controls of just one of those jets - presumably all armed with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. Just one.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 15:17 | 3661191 john39
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all the pomp and expense is just part of the ruse to fool the masses into believing that this clown obama makes any real decisions...   just another low class hollywood style production.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:55 | 3660286 mofreedom
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sorry, my passion got the best of me here:  we DON'T KNOW WHETHER he IS A MUSLIM but he sure loves them for some strange reason (just the latest)...

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-one-place-you-can-be-free-o...

BUT we know he hates western civilization 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9436526/White-Hous...

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:53 | 3660355 Kirk2NCC1701
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Notwithstanding that Jews, Christians and Muslims pray to the same (space alien) God, few are 'saints' or can rise above the 'rabble' to add real value to all three and to humanity.

Clear evidence that Homo Sapiens had clandestine sex with fucking Neanderthals! God/gods/Aliens must be crying or laughing their ass off. Well... 'Jesus' is weeping and 'The Adversary' (Sah-tun, Shah-tun) General Counsel is laughing his ass off with an "I told you so, captain".

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:47 | 3660395 JOYFUL
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Not sure whether it was your 'passion' or your programming which got the better of you...

clearly you and 'identikit' have been pre-screened and selected to play the muzzie-baiters of the day... and with all the usual aplomb of the mind-controlled dupe thrown into the task...

do you read your own links...or just insert them accordingly when directed by your 'controller'>/// from you link...

Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland.

This reference to the now laughably discredited program of the FBI's to find sub-normal dupe patsies amongst the immigrant populatation... and give them weapons, instructions, and directions to the target has ...disrupted dozens of (theatrically produced)plots to induce Merikans to flop into their fearbunny suits... in order to set the psychological mood for a campaign of death and destruction in the middle east in the interests of a tiny terrorist statelet... whose dual-citiiZend operatives 'own' sham governmental 'security' services like FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS and so on... but you knew that! In one or other of your multiple-personalities which get triggered on command...

just like the dupe patsies who you pretend to be so afraid of.... Comedy Central!..."plots against the homeland~"

Obama "hates" whoever and whatever his controllers instruct him to... if he 'hates western civilization'... you can be sure you are working for the same cause as him.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:22 | 3660647 mofreedom
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i know the stories very well, and i'm a bit dim to your point.  why quit a succesful program?

help me out here, as i can be a tad thick in the head from all the beatings i've taken over the years.

and let me elucidate further, radical islam is not our friend, good muslims that sell me my cigs that love the american way of life could be our friends if they'd turn on their radical members.

sometimes generalization is funnier, just like all irish are drunks, all germans are nazis, all asians are good at math.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:57 | 3660290 mofreedom
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sorry, my passion got the best of me here:  we DON'T KNOW WHETHER he IS A MUSLIM but he sure loves them for some strange reason (just the latest)...

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-one-place-you-can-be-free-o...

BUT we know he hates western civilization (except the pizaa, burgers et all)...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9436526/White-Hous...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287828/Revealed-Why-President-O...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:40 | 3660391 Spanky
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Hmmm. Looks to me as if he is trying to best Shrub's muslim body count... at the very least. Alphas can't have the shortest pecker you know.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:58 | 3660291 Freddie
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He is being protected by The Gang of 8 Rats - McCain, Lindsey Graham, Rubio and Flake on the RINO side.   They also want to get amnesty passed.  If they get Amnesty is passed it is game over on the scandals, the Second Amendment and America.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:31 | 3660523 NoClueSneaker
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Me thinks Barry Odebtmoar an creation of Robert Ruben . Therefore - he CEO and Looter-In-Chief for the Holly Kaliphat of WallStreetistan .

Concerning Syria - Jihaddis killed by deadly gas called Nassralin . After all, BJ Clinton destroyed pharmactical plant in Khartoum to distract from the public interes for his penis ... so NobelBarry not so bad . Maybe he should get another one for dumbing the whole freakin' world to death ....

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:33 | 3660387 Larry Dallas
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I don't know anyone who likes O.

Unless your Black and broke, that would make sense.

Even white trailer trash on the dole don't like him.

What am I missing?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:23 | 3660515 dcohen
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Jews and Zionists pretend to love him, they financed and installed him.

But only because they disrespect him so much, because they know he would sell his mom for a dime, they like it, but recognise the rotten character.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:34 | 3660524 NoClueSneaker
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Bankstas wet . He would give him another two terms, if possible.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:21 | 3660509 dcohen
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I trust Obama does nothing

I trust nothing Obama does

Nothing Obama does I trust

Nothing I trust, Obama does

 

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:58 | 3660624 RSloane
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They treat everyone who is not one of their own with equal contempt.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:03 | 3660683 RSloane
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[ZH is not landing this particular response under the person I am responding to.]

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:53 | 3660083 Meat Hammer
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It's not the scandals.  IMHO, the scandals were/are a test run to see if they can cause unrest and blame the inevitable collapse of the market on "extremists" trying to bring down the government.  None of it - not even citizens being spied on - stoked enough fire so they're going to the tried and true option in the playbook...war.  The economy will crumble and they have to have a scapegoat, that will be in the name of democracy in Syria, because we're 'Merica and we free the fuck out of people.  If you're pissed about the hit to your 401k then you just don't care about innocent people being gassed by that evil Assad.  Not to worry, though...the FEMA camp will get your head right.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:02 | 3660102 TeamDepends
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The Syrians, of course, will need Diebold machines so that each and every vote is counted....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:44 | 3660170 August
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...the FEMA camp will get your head right.

 

Yes, O yes!  I them to make my brain perfect, before they blow it out.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:38 | 3660610 GetZeeGold
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FEMA camps will not help you to think politically correct.....but they will help you to think correct politically.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:08 | 3660209 Cistercian
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It is not the scandals.It is the pipeline...and the rebels are getting destroyed by the Syrians.

  The gov there has MIGs...they don't need to use sarin.And the gov is not taking prisoners either...they are killing the rebels.

 

  The pipeline must be built.Nothing else matters....It is just about the real wealth...ENERGY.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:03 | 3660364 Kirk2NCC1701
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+21
Thank you for reinforcing Clarity, when it's so easy and tempting to digress with all else.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 13:04 | 3660973 Overfed
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Please. They aren't rebels, they are paid mercenaries. And this is no rebellion, it is an insurrection that is being instigated and paid for by foreign powers.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 14:14 | 3661111 Cistercian
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Of course they are mercenaries.I am using the terms the matrix is using.Consider as well that states are not running this either.The states are proxies for who is really driving the bus...energy majors/banking cartel/milplex.

  Once one sees the companies running the universe the idiotic state actions make much more sense.

 In this sense, the US military merely serves the will of people who are neither elected nor accountable.

 

 This has to change.

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:20 | 3660236 NeedtoSecede
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Hammer, may I have permission to use part of your post the in future? "Merica, we free the fuck out of people!"

And how does that sound if you flip it around? 'Merica, we fuck the free out of people! Seems to work that way too...

Sad state of affairs, but ZHers and the Tylers have been predicting this very things for months.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:05 | 3660299 Meat Hammer
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Permission granted.  Although I'm pretty sure I snatched the line from someone else. 

+1 for your version...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:50 | 3660185 Dungeness
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Exactly. Remember all the commotion when NK was supposedly going to nuke the US in the next day or so? And then it went on and on, nothing happened, it faded out.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:53 | 3660533 ISEEIT
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Very possible..."Back off motherf^c^ers or the wife and kids die". Any way you slice it this is going to become an even greater disaster.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:58 | 3660628 GOSPLAN HERO
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Israel needs clear skys over Syria to strike Iran.

Obama is cooperating.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:27 | 3660705 machineh
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Twenty-five mile wide corridor: just what the doctor (Bibi) ordered!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:47 | 3660739 monoloco
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There seems to be plenty of bi-partisanship for replacing all the secular governments in the middle east with Al Qaida linked fanatics, the only logic to it that I can see, is to fabricate an excuse to eliminate even more of our personal freedoms. The TPTB created a boogey man, now they are using it to create the police state they have always dreamed of.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:37 | 3660265 williambanzai7
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Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:07 | 3660301 Jim in MN
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No, he is being forced to start one by the Clintons, the DLC (who are very on the downlow these days) and Israel.

He needs to be the scapegoat, and soon, so Hillary Mao can move her iron tyranny into place in the aftermath.  I bet they keep Biden as house terrier.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:43 | 3660939 kaiserhoff
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Boys and Girls of all ages.

    WE HAVE A WINNER.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:18 | 3660379 Croesus
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Didn't Obama get the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:04 | 3660502 Svendblaaskaeg
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"Didn't Obama get the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ?"

What difference does it make? - Al bore got a shared nobel price with IPCC for trying to save the world from non existing global bloody warming and they all have a big fargin carbon-footprint

They should rename it to nobel hypocrite price

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:44 | 3660564 TWSceptic
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What difference does it make?

 

None, according to Hitlary.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:41 | 3660529 NoClueSneaker
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Obliterating women and children with cruise missiles in some village in Yemen is an definive achievement for the world peace . The children make noise and the women talk too much, definately terrorism.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:09 | 3660432 g'kar
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No, he was planning on doing this a long time ago. The timing was determined by when the excuse was created.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:11 | 3660588 Touch_It
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I feel sorry for the brave folks who join our military only to be sent on such missions. Imagine having to follow the orders of Obama to support a group of militant Muslims that hate th US in a war against a Muslim dictator who hates the US. WTF kind of mission is that?

And what abiut McCain's logic is that if we don't go to Syria this has a chance of escalating into a regional conflict. So arming the militants and sending Americans will calm things down. Russia will escalate support for Syria, Americans will die, and who kows what Israel may do ( proactively or in response to some attack).

Have we not learned from our past? What is success here? The installation of a Muslim brotherhood regime. Is that worth one once of blood or one fiat dollar?

At this point, has Obama now either continued, duplicated, or surpassed all of the Bush's evils?

End of rant.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:24 | 3659989 Colonel Klink
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In a word, yes.

Obama is a cunt of the first degree.

EDIT:  And GFY governmental information siezing and recording douchebags.  Just wanted to get that on the record.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:22 | 3660143 MiltonFriedmans...
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But colonel, the NSA must listen to our phone calls, read our e-mails, hack our computers and peek through our bedroom windows in order to protect us from Al-Queda, a terror group Obama now chooses to arm and risk American lives over (while he tries his best to take firearms away from law abiding American citizens). It all makes perfect sense; sarc off.
Calling him a cunt is an understement indeed.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:27 | 3660149 Colonel Klink
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Thanks but I'm happy to take care of myself and my own defense from them.  Everything about life is a risk, I'm not willing to forego my liberty for security, I'm responsible for that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659990 A Lunatic
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Well, at least it isn't that tired old "weapons of mass destruction" meme.......

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:09 | 3660370 RideTheWalrus
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Anyone remember the good 'ol days when the biggest scandle was a dodgy PDF birth certificate?

 

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 18:11 | 3661447 DosZap
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Obamster is not starting a war with Syria, he is starting a NEW Cold War with Russia,Putin is not he kind of dictator to mess with,he's got BALLS the size of Texas, and he is NOT afraid to step up and get into with us.And Obamster doing this is likely stepping on a trip wire.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:24 | 3659992 syntaxterror
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--> USA

--> Assad

Whom will Syrian rebel veterans be terror attacking 20 years from now?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:16 | 3660231 dark pools of soros
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lol syrian rebels - surely u jest

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEsDHozFeuc

 

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:44 | 3660530 NoClueSneaker
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First Iranians then Turks . Oh, wait ...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659993 dognamedabu
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Why not? Bush started a war with Iraq to distract from the fact he was an idiot. What's a few more dead middle east people compard to a five point rise in approval ratings?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:27 | 3660011 Colonel Klink
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Bush went into Iraq to nail Sadam for his attempt on his fathers life, oil, and to discourage movement for pricing oil away from the Petrodollar to the Euro.

Or at least that's my take on it.  The whole WMD thing was just the ruse to make it happen.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:31 | 3660018 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes re Saddam going after his pa.  If I were president, and someone had gone after my father, that someone would have been in "trouble plenty", I don't care who he was.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:27 | 3660050 Colonel Klink
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Agreed, which is the same conundrum faced by the state if they ever go after the American population.  Those police, soldiers, and FEMA personnel have family too.  I believe many would abandon their post if their family was directly affected.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:38 | 3660163 nmewn
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They're going to need bigger camps ;-)

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:48 | 3660350 Ginsengbull
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The kool-aid in their canteens will make them forget all about their families.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:30 | 3660257 mofreedom
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i hope someday we'll really know the reason, but gut tells me the Bush's and his folks have hearts that are in the wrong place entirely...at least they have hearts...and please no more bush's as president...i saw a nice chap beggin off the exit ramp of the interstate lookin for work today.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:45 | 3660342 Ginsengbull
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We went into Iraq and hung saddam, because he was paying the families of suicide bombers $20,000 to blow themselves up in Israel, as long as they used nails and rat poison in their bombs to kill as many as possible.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:58 | 3660400 JOYFUL
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to blow themselves up in Israel, as long as they used nails and rat poison in their bombs...

intruiging and novel thesis...

I had always thought "you" went into Iraq and 'hung saddam' because he started taking payment for oil in other than FRN...

links please?(particularly the 'rat poison-based bomb technology-sounds diabolical!!)

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:36 | 3660040 gatorengineer
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oh look a libtard.......

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:43 | 3660058 dognamedabu
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You got it wrong bitch. I cant stand all politicians. Left right up down. Its the only career where Im certain all are sociopaths. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:46 | 3660177 dognamedabu
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Except the ones you voted for.. They are at their desk right now trying to solve your problems. They love us. Ha ha. Omg want to watch a sad thing? Goto a rally. Their eyes are glazed over.. Buddy at podium could say anything and these cats would go woot! Man I hate people.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:49 | 3660069 dognamedabu
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Which btw the engineer should have been evident in my op. I critisized Bush and then agreed they all are a bunch of evil self absorbed sobs. You however only saw the Bush remark which made you see red and invoked a nonsence response. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:46 | 3660942 Bay of Pigs
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"nonsence"?

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659994 kliguy38
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No Way....he won the Peace Prize and that would mean he's a criminal punk....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:25 | 3659998 Republi-Ken
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LOL.

TYLER sometimes you are just a fucking idiot.

War with Syria to distract from what scandals?  LOL. Never gonna happen.

Where are the scandals? I see a lots of accusations without facts.

Typical Republican Conservative Libertarian. False charges and wild exagerations. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:26 | 3660004 mick68
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You mean, besides the mountains of evidence brought by the whistleblowers? 

 

You're the idiot.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660037 DaddyO
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...not to mention a douche bag!

DaddyO

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:41 | 3660053 espirit
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...not to mention a trololololl.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:16 | 3660306 DollarMenu
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Back in earlier ZH days, 50 downvotes would get your post deleted.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660034 dognamedabu
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What part of guest post gots you confused? Maybe you still hungover from the campaign? 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:42 | 3660051 NoDebt
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Agreed that he's in no trouble from these scandals.  Might have side-tracked his agenda, but he's not getting sucked into them personally.

This muslim overthrow of a dictator isn't happening as easily as it did in the Arab Spring uprisings in multiple countries.  If fact, they're in danger of losing in Syria.  Can't let that happen.  No no no.  Time to help 'em out because we're so smart we know who the right people are to run their country.

We should stay the fuck out of all this.  But again, we won't.

FYI- Tylers are not idiots, from what's I've seen them produce.  This is a guest post.  If you have criticism, at least point it in the right direction.

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:33 | 3660322 Andre
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Funny thing is, O could get sucked in. On the stuff Holder has pulled he could get himself in trouble. He'd appreciate it as a "Constitutional scholar" - in re Yamashita, US Supreme court ruling 1946.

General Yamashita was hung for the mistreatment of prisoners by his troops, despite a serious defense by a US military attorney centered around the facts (a) he was not fully aware of the extent of the mistreatment, and (b) he did not order the mistreatment. The ruling established the idea a commander is responsible for what his troops do or fail to do whether he orders the actions or not. Between Corzine's walk on egregious embezzlement, Fast and Furious, and all the rest, his lack of command over an extended period of time make him complicit in those situations.

Not that this will become relevant...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:52 | 3660080 TeamDepends
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Look at those numbers, Ken.  I'm afraid we're going to have to let you go....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:06 | 3660114 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck that.  He'll just want unemthreadement benefits.  Make him share an office with Trav777.  He'll leave on his own for sure.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:07 | 3660407 JOYFUL
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Actually "Ken" has the makings of a monster success /// for the Tylers... now that MDB has pretty much run out of steam...SqueakyFromm hopelessly erratic.. and that guy with the environmental anti-gold angle apparently gone...

 a new crop of avatars is needed to keep the house rockin. The current crew of muzzie-bashin sock puppet inserts is so pathetically poor that the Tylers felt moved to get something more dynamic in motion!

Lil over the top... but hey... it's a start///Good kleen fun... and good luck Ken...Keep em comin!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:54 | 3660958 Bay of Pigs
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We need better trolls.

johnny bravo, Math Man, Spaulding Smails, GoldenMiddleFinger, William the Bastard, bob dabolina, etc...are all distant memories now.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 16:19 | 3661284 RockyRacoon
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Ah, the good ole days.  When a body could come to ZH for some thoughtful troll bashing.  We do miss them.

MasterBates morphed into Johnny Bravo and had some weird explanation of some kind...  He finally left, as he promised, because gold blew right past that ceiling he said couldn't be met... something like $700 or so?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:57 | 3660091 dognamedabu
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Just to make clear.. No libretarian worth their salt would ever call themselves repulican or conservative. See what we generally dont like is all forms of government. Experiance tells us no matter what if you have dogma you will end up being an asshole partisan. You are case in point.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:35 | 3660421 Spanky
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"See what we generally dont like is all forms of government." -- dognamedabu

 

OK. I've just gotta ask. Is this where all the anarchists went when the OWS site went rabidly Democratic?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:06 | 3660152 tarsubil
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If only accusing you of sucking dick was a wild exaggeration. ART* has worked for Obama so it should work for you too.

*ART = anti-retroviral treatment (for the HIV (contracted from a long life of playing "catcher"))

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:37 | 3660161 g'kar
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Ken's on an acid trip, don't mind him.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:44 | 3660171 surf0766
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Asshole

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:45 | 3660173 markar
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I just got 6 downvotes for you. Wish I had a few hundred more.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:57 | 3660289 Yen Cross
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  Let's make it a nice round  [74]

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:25 | 3660000 syntaxterror
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Is there a Nobel Prize for Propoganda Arts?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:32 | 3660022 DoChenRollingBearing
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Pulitzer Prize..., LOL

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