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Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Well, isn't that convenient?  At the moment when the Obama administration is feeling more heat then ever before, it starts another war.  Suddenly everyone in the mainstream media is talking all about Syria and not about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA snooping or any of the other political scandals that have popped up in recent weeks.

As if on cue, Obama made headlines all over the globe on Thursday by claiming that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons against the rebels "multiple times", and that the U.S. was now ready to do more to assist the rebels.  That assistance is reportedly going to include "military support" for the rebels and a no-fly zone over at least part of Syria is being discussed.  Without a doubt, these are acts of war, and this conflict is not going to end until Assad has been ousted.  But Assad will not go quietly. 

And all it would take is for Assad to fire a couple of missiles at Tel Aviv for a huge regional war to erupt in the Middle East.  And what happens if Russia or China decides to get involved in the conflict in Syria?  Obama is playing with fire, but he has shown again and again that he is willing to do virtually anything if it will benefit him politically.

As far as the Obama administration is concerned, there is no such thing as a coincidence.  The timing of this announcement regarding Syria was not an accident.  If Obama wanted to use chemical weapons as an excuse to go after Syria he could have done it weeks ago, or he could have waited several more months before taking action.  He chose to do it right now for a reason, and hopefully the American people will be able to see right through this.

So exactly what are we going to be doing for the Syrian rebels?  Well, we will definitely be arming them and training them.  And it is probably reasonable to assume that there will be American "advisers" on the ground inside Syria helping to organize the Syrian resistance.  In fact, according to Debka, a large U.S. Marine force has already been deployed to the Jordanian border with Syria.

In addition, according to the Wall Street Journal, U.S. aircraft may be involved in enforcing a no-fly zone inside Syria...

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

 

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

 

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

No matter how you slice it, the United States is now in a state of war with Syria.  The only question is how "involved" we are going to get.

And several prominent Republicans are already rushing forward to applaud Barack Obama on this latest move.  The following comes from a CBS News report...

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who met with the rebels last month and has been a vocal critic of the president's Syria policy said in a joint statement with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: "We appreciate the President's finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President's red line has been crossed. U.S. credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions."

But you know what?  Many of these Syrian rebels have actually pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The whole point of the "war on terror" was to supposedly fight al-Qaeda, but now the U.S. military is allied with them.

Why in the world would we want to help the people who are supposed to be our greatest global enemy?...

A Syrian rebel group's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda's replacement for Osama bin Laden suggests that the terrorist group's influence is not waning and that it may take a greater role in the Western-backed fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.

 

The pledge of allegiance by Syrian Jabhat al Nusra Front chief Abou Mohamad al-Joulani to al-Qaeda leader Sheik Ayman al-Zawahri was coupled with an announcement by the al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq, that it would work with al Nusra as well.

 

Lebanese Sheik Omar Bakri, a Salafist who says states must be governed by Muslim religious law, says al-Qaeda has assisted al Nusra for some time.

 

"They provided them early on with technical, military and financial support , especially when it came to setting up networks of foreign jihadis who were brought into Syria," Bakri says. "There will certainly be greater coordination between the two groups."

This group of jihadists has been responsible for car and suicide bombings all over Syria, and they are the ones that have been doing the heaviest fighting on the front lines...

When the group Jabhat al Nusra first claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries claimed that the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad and to hide the regime’s own brutal tactics.

 

Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.

 

Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.

 

The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaida in Iraq – an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.

These are no "freedom fighters".  In fact, if these guys take over they will be much worse than Assad.  These "rebels" recently massacred an entire villages of Christians, and just two days ago they slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed...

The rebels, according to ABC News’ reconstruction of the Syrian groups’ reports, appear to have whipped Qatta. When they brought him back to where they’d taken him, his head was wrapped by a shirt.

 

The rebels waited for a crowd to gather; Qatta’s parents were among them. Speaking in classical Arabic, they announced that Qatta had committed blasphemy and that anyone else who dared insult the Prophet Mohammed would share his fate. Then, the shirt still wrapped around the boy’s head, the rebels shot him in the mouth and neck.

Is this really who the U.S. government wants to be allies with?

Are we that stupid?

And guess what?  According to the Los Angeles Times, the Obama administration is considering plans to bring all of the poor "refugees" that are allied with these "rebels" to the United States...

Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns.

 

A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

But now we are committed to this conflict thanks to Obama.

There will be no backing down until Assad is gone.

Of course this could create a huge regional war in the Middle East or even eventually lead to World War III, but Obama doesn't seem to care.

For now, Obama is saving his own skin, and that is the most important thing to him.

 

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Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:51 | 3660532 NoClueSneaker
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Bankstas and Nobelistas work on it  - fundrasing for Golden Goebbels .

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:26 | 3660003 scatterbrains
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It sounds like the 1st wave of alCIAda got wiped the fuck out by Assad with the help of Hezbollah.. so now we double pinky swear we will exact revenge.  Good luck, lets hope not too many young americans get slaughtered over there in the cross currents.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:38 | 3660329 Ginsengbull
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I heard that the rebels use hollow points, women suicide bombers, and that they wiped out a whole village of Christians.

 

They share many values with Washington, DC.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:54 | 3660534 NoClueSneaker
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Rebels use opium, heroin , crystal meth, wodka, ( depending where hired ).

Their commanders use coke, as u mentioned, the same values ....

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:36 | 3660388 Kirk2NCC1701
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Remember "That which does not kill you, only makes you stronger"? Works for Hezbollah too.

Gotta love those Laws of Unintended Consequences. /s

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:26 | 3660006 Whatta
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What scandals? Just SOP from Uhmerka.

I see Hillary has kicked off her run for President...all is forgiven with her as well:

On Thursday's The Lead, CNN's Erin McPike touted Hillary Clinton's speech at the Clinton Global Initiative and hyped her prospects for 2016. She ignored any controversies from Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State, like Benghazi and new accusations of a cover-up of sex scandals abroad.

"[T]here's no question that the big star here was a very relaxed Hillary Clinton," McPike reported. "The political world is abuzz over a potential race for the White House in 2016." A CNN headline trumpeted "Here Comes Hillary."

We are fuct.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:37 | 3660048 booboo
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The only thing that is going to stop Thunder Thighs from winning the White House is if she was found to be cheating on Kim Kardasian. Now that there is a deal breaker with the American womenz twitter twats.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:45 | 3660062 espirit
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I'll bet the NSA gets more than a few chuckles over MADame Hillarys'

emails.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:07 | 3660297 tenpanhandle
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In three more years Hillary will be so ugly that even her diehard sycophant followers will think monica looks good.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:07 | 3660406 Escapeclaws
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That is so unfair! Nobody can predict what she will look like even in the next six months! She may be sporting a mullet when she re-takes the Whitehouse, for example.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:17 | 3660508 machineh
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By then, Hillary probably will have buried Bill (widow's weeds, crococile tears) and married Huma Abedin.

First LGBT president, yay! /sarc

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:45 | 3660060 NoDebt
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2016 is a long way off.  She could fall down and bump her head again.  There may not be glasses thick enough to straighten her eyes out after that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:50 | 3660066 espirit
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I would have sworn she'd play the "I can't remember" card at the Benghazi hearing.

Here's to hoping the Coumadin works better than expected.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:19 | 3660511 machineh
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There may not be control girdles thick enough to control her steatopygia after that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:12 | 3660223 mademesmile
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I used to think Hillary would be the worst president, but after 5 years have changed my mind.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:24 | 3660249 QQQBall
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Yeah - and in a "wide ranging" interview with Chelsea Clinton she basically says"Vote for Mom." Stoopid, horse-faced twat was married for 30 seconds.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:27 | 3660010 Hal n back
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I thought the scandals were the distraction from a declining economy. So now we have distractions from distractions.

 

The dumbing of the USA.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:58 | 3660536 NoClueSneaker
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Oh shit ... nothing can match €U-Propaganda . Springer-Bertelsmann not so big as Murdoch but lethal to brain cells. Don't bash Merikkans - shit is allover.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:31 | 3660017 booboo
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McCain and Lindsey remind me of a couple of school yard pussies egging on a fist fight between two other kids.

Other then that, Bullshit IS a weapon of Mass Destruction and the Kenyon in Chief is the ultimate delivery system. Ain't heard a peep from that usless body the U.N. since he came on the scene. Goddamn, they used to prattle on constantly in times past and at least be a "full retard" trip wire.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:32 | 3660020 Yes_Questions
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Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

 

Is this headline actually suggesting he could, all by himself, start a war?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:18 | 3660137 Yes_Questions
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Seriously?!

 

The "Puppet"

Obama

 

can start a war, all by himself?

 

Ok, W. was a Genius and Clinton a role model for husbands.  

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:34 | 3660156 tarsubil
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It's not a war. It's a pageant. We need a theme. We need a song. We need a producer.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:20 | 3660512 machineh
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And an anti-hero (guess who).

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:44 | 3660941 Professorlocknload
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Putin?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:48 | 3660277 Taint Boil
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Yep … just like Obama’s Christmas tree tax, the Obama phone, etc etc etc Don’t try and use logic or facts here …. Of course the president has no real powers but some how he is responsible for everything that fits their meme. You can spot the Fox News listeners form a mile away – pathetic.

I have tried this type of "logic" here before and it doesn't work - you will not be able to get through. I assume you don’t like Obama and I don’t also but the unsophisticated typing from Mommy’s basement can’t even see that. So my advice don’t even try to make sense here – you’ll lose. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:04 | 3660296 Yes_Questions
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You're a saint, and I don't give up on these magnificant fucks.

 

Even if I'll lose.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:00 | 3660353 Andre
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OK, he is the Commander In Chief of the armed forces of the US. Through his appointees he has very direct access to the entire federal law enforcement and intelligence community, he has the bully pulpit of the press and the adoration of tens of millions of glassy-eyed registered (and unregistered) voters. Through the NDAA he has the personal power of life and death. Through the Patriot Acts he can just about declare any criticism terrorism, and there are those who feel that is as it should be. Further, because of Shrub, we are in a State of Emergency, which gives a legal fig-leaf to his powers. As for declaring war, Congress has not invoked its War Powers since Korea. Further, Congress is controlled by the party he is a member of, which gives him MASSIVE powers of patronage.

...but he has "no real powers". I don't usually get all Anglo-Saxon, but are you fucking stupid?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:52 | 3660187 g'kar
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Why not? He's already doing Legislative branch and Judicial branch work. What's a little war.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:32 | 3660024 Debt Slave
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Who really makes the decisions? Look to those whom you dare not criticize.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:32 | 3660025 Jayda1850
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We have always been at war with eurasia. We have always been at war with eastasia.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:46 | 3660061 Van Halen
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Stop it! This news is upsetting and it distracts from my safe, relaxing world of sports, zombies, and Kardashians. Worse, I'm now forced to up my soma to two a day!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:23 | 3660312 Ginsengbull
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Does 0bamacare cover soma?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:22 | 3660802 noless
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yes

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:10 | 3660218 Anusocracy
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Well, the hunter-gatherer culture and the sedentist culture have been warring for over 10,000 years.

A lot of people killed because of differing beliefs on the best way to survive.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:36 | 3660030 lolmao500
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WAG THE DOG...

Don't worry, all the ``liberals`` that were against war when Bush was in office will be pro-war when it comes to Obama... hell they were pro-war when Clinton was in... Same goes for republicans... most people are hopeless partisan hacks and that's why America is fucked.

In other Syrian news...

German Intelligence: 95 % Of Free Syrian Army Non-Syrian Extremist Groups

http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/13310

Here's a map of the 23 places the US will bomb if there's a Syria no fly zone

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/14/heres_a_map_of_the_...

Naharnet: Saudi King Cuts Short Morocco Vacation amid Unusual Military Measures in Kingdom
The information come amid media reports that the Saudi military command has ordered measures that resemble a state of alert.

According to the reports, the army has suspended the vacations of soldiers amid unusual military moves in the bases that are close to the border with Jordan, especially the Tabuk military base.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/86842-naharnet-saudi-king-cuts-short-...

SYRIAN REBEL COMMANDER IDRISS TO TRAVEL TO WASHINGTON TOMORROW

LAVROV WARNS KERRY THAT ARMING SYRIA REBELS FRAUGHT WITH CONFLICT ESCALATION - MINISTRY

Al Jazeerah: First dispatch of arms received by FSA in #Syria , including guided missiles.

Egypt Brotherhood backs Syria jihad, denounces Shi'ites
Egypt's ruling Muslim Brotherhood blamed Shi'ites for creating religious strife throughout Islam's history, as the movement joined a call by Sunni clerics for jihad against the Syrian government and its Shi'ite allies.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egypt-Brotherhood-backs-Syria-jihad-den...

Moscow unconvinced by US evidence of Syrian chemical weapons use
Russia is not convinced by the evidence which the US provided alleging that the government of Syria’s President Bashar Assad used chemical weapons against rebel forces.
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has stressed that arming rebels is a step fraught with possible “escalation in the region” while allegations of the use of chemical weapons “are not supported by reliable evidence”.
The aide added that the news will not affect Russia’s position on delivering S-300 surface-to-air missiles to the Syrian government. Moscow has a years-long standing contract with Damascus to supply the advanced air defense system, but has not fulfilled it yet.
http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-moscow-692/

CBS report on Fast and furious, benghazi, get computer hacked by government to know sources

http://www.680news.com/2013/06/14/cbs-news-says-someone-tampered-with-re...

Snowden Leak "Tip of the Iceberg" of NSA Surveillance Program

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvXn2w_FvY

The NSA: Future Crime Unit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nARsYRMQKE

Obama's death squads are at work to cover the IRS scandal up...

First Head to Roll? New Report Claims Top IRS Official Fired, Has ‘Dropped Off the Edge of the World’

An Internal Revenue Service official at the center of the agency’s political targeting scandal has reportedly been fired and has since “dropped off the edge of the world,” according to a new report from National Review Online.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/14/first-head-to-roll-new-report...

Nothing is going there at all...

Gas to be released on Underground to test fallout

Tests are set to be carried out on the London Underground to see how quickly poisonous gases could spread across the Tube network.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22901700

Cell-phone technician: They LISTEN with phone OFF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqepIizDbT4

 

The Syrian War: Israel and U.S. Coordinating How to Target Assad’s Arsenal “Things are happening behind the scenes,” says one Israeli official. “Things are really happening.”  http://world.time.com/2013/06/14/the-syrian-war-israel-and-u-s-coordinat...
Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:17 | 3660311 Ginsengbull
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I always figured they could listen to you, even if your cell phone were turned off.

 

They have a little lithium battery to keep all your numbers, and keep the clock running, even if you take the main battery out.

 

Sometimes, my phone battery dies quicker over the weekend, than while I'm actually using the phone during the week.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:58 | 3660857 Kirk2NCC1701
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Remove the Sim chip also. Else turn it off and drop it tinfoil bag.

But, as someone said a few days ago, they will probably tap into your other smart appliances. E.g., Satellite receiver, Xbox Kinnect...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:19 | 3660594 Croesus
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Carlin on US-led Wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc

 

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:34 | 3660031 jonjon831983
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or.... are the scandals a distraction from Syria...

Whoooa!!!!

 

Sacrificial lamb for... the "cause".

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660033 michigan independant
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Serfs never factor in or ever will.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660035 Richard Whiskey
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Should start drafting. Any welfare / unemployment recipients first to go.

If they wanna leech on a corrupt government system they should be the first to bleed.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:46 | 3660059 oddjob
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All government employees should have to serve, they are the top tier when it comes to sponges and leeches.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:49 | 3660067 Van Halen
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OMG - could you just SEE this bunch of lazy, corrupt, soft, perfume-scented Lords and Ladies in our government even TRYING to fire an AR-15? Or hefting anything heavier than a bribery check?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:04 | 3660110 oddjob
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+1

I never implied they would return.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:17 | 3660133 Meat Hammer
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LOL.  They'd call their union rep to complain about combat conditions and not getting their two 10-minute breaks.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:10 | 3660303 Ginsengbull
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The Armalite was designed to be fired by women, children, and the limp-wristed liberal loser offspring of America's Greatest Generation.

 

Don't even get me started on the 9mm that the nazis lost WW2 with.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:11 | 3660125 Richard Whiskey
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Logic is skewed, if they all served who would setup to tank the economy?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:51 | 3660079 LetThemEatRand
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"Any welfare / unemployment recipients first to go."

Already happening.  Much of the military is made up of people who see little other option.  If you want to stop wars, make the generals and Commandant in Chief go in first.   No more wars.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:53 | 3660191 g'kar
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Why don't we just draft 'em right as they cross the Mexico border. That should give us a couple thousand a day.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:36 | 3660044 Cheeseus Sonofdog
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That is the old Bill Clinton trick. Every time he got in trouble he would send our troops to Somalia, Haiti, Serbia, or threaten Saddam in Iraq. Travelgate, Monica, Paula Jones, White Water, Vincent Foster, all followed by Clinton toying around with our troops...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:06 | 3660112 dick cheneys ghost
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thats just the CIA/neo-cons playing blackmail to further their agenda

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:09 | 3660118 RiverRoad
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Yup.  Clinton started the bombing in Bosnia the day he was impeached.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:38 | 3660424 ebworthen
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Brother in law in law enforcement in D.C. when Vince Foster was offed by the Clinton White House.

He said there was no blood and no powder burns where they should be; it was a complete hit by the Clintons.

Ron Brown probably the same, Debt Brother from Planet Zero just carrying on the tradition; Edward Snowden - hide yourself very well - your life depends upon it!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:04 | 3660539 NoClueSneaker
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Barbra Straisand not in the list ? ( Or I mentioned some antisemite ).....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:41 | 3660052 A Lunatic
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After yet another series of secret meetings with the MSM it was concluded that there is no IRS scandal, no Benghazi, no NSA snooping, and no inflation. America has always been at war with America........

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:51 | 3660078 Van Halen
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Hey! I don't know what you're trying to imply! But those meetings between the press and White House needed to be secret because... transparency and nothing to hide... and stuff.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:42 | 3660055 jon dough
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I dunno...

Let's go ask that bear takin' a shit in the woods over there...

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:42 | 3660056 Yen Cross
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Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?   YES!
Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:12 | 3660637 lakecity55
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Rhetorically, I agree, but it's really more the oil pipeline scheme.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:42 | 3660057 Van Halen
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Where are the furious antiwar protests now? Where are Code Pink and Not In Our Name and Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon and #occupy and Dixie Chicks and the rest of the hypocritical Left?

How about the economy? The gas prices? The spending? The deficit? The IRS/NSA/DOJ/EPA/Fast and Furious/Benghazi scandals? How about the unemployment?

Worst of all - for us - is that this administration sees US as the enemy. They hate us, fear us, and distrust us. And now we know they're arming/training a whole bunch of government agencies to paramilitary status. Why is this? What is the plan? Where are the Leftists who raised such a stink in the 1960's but who now are more than happy to watch as their side eviscerates the Constitution?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:54 | 3660084 LetThemEatRand
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Every four or eight years, half of the country goes to sleep.  I for one tip my hat at the brilliance of the plan.  Saddam won each election with 98% of the vote.  Everyone knew it was a joke.  In the U.S., a Donkey and an Elephant take 98% of each vote combined, and people think there is a choice.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:06 | 3660113 Everybodys All ...
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++ nailed it.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:07 | 3660117 Fuku Ben
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None of that is complicated to answer.

If they support and defend your Constitutional rights equally outside of some stupid treasonous two-party farce then they are loyal.

If they site back and say nothing they are traitors and need to be dealt with accordingly.

There are good loyal Constitution loving people across every race, religion, ethnicity, most political parties, etc.  You Americans better find a way figure out who's who and unite them fast because you know damn well the massive paramilitary build-up is sure as f*ck not to protect you. Right now you've got enough arms and ammo to stop them if you choose that route. If you wait hoping someone will step forward to save you it will be a blood bath when they've got everything they want in place.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:20 | 3660415 Spanky
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+1

 

Well said.

I see it, a viable and possible Constitutional course of action, and advocate and argue for it, but... well... I'm getting down-voted for simply saying I'm willing to stand up for my rights.

Simply put, one can vote with one's feet, but I would prefer to exercise my Constitutional right to withdraw my consent to be governed by this corrupt twin-party political regime at the ballot box. Trouble is, most Americans know next to nothing about what voting actually represents under our Constitution -- all they've ever seen is the rigged twin-party parlor game version.

We establish their legitimacy when you consent to their bad behavior. And we could change that, rather easily at the ballot box, if we only understood the foundations of Constitutional self-governance -- our consent.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 20:17 | 3661648 fuckitall
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"There are good loyal Constitution loving people across every race, religion, ethnicity, most political parties, etc."

Loving doesn't mean defending, it hasn't been defended, and it's too late to do it now. It's just not logistically poosible anymore.

"If they site back and say nothing they are traitors and need to be dealt with accordingly."

That could easily be said of those " good loyal Constitution loving people".  They are traitors. Talk is worthless.  Doing is what counts.  Sitting back doing nothing while their "beloved Constitution" is shredded and violated is treason just as much as those shredding and violating it.

So everybody is a traitor now, and that's why America is going down, all the way down.  By 2017 I doubt you'll see any aspect of the constitution left.  3 branches of govt are merged now for all practical purposes. All rights will be gone (almost gone now).  It won't stop people speaking their mind. It might well be illegal though.  It won't stop people having a religion.  Just don't try to get tax exemption (except muslim, jew, or catholic).  It won't stop people having guns. It absolutely will be illegal though.  Due process?  Gone now.  Unreasonable search and seizure?  Rampant now.  States' rights?  Gone after civil war.  14th amendment rights? Not rights at all, privileges from govt.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 21:36 | 3661763 Spanky
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-1

 

"[The Constitution] hasn't been defended, and it's too late to do it now..." -- fuckitall

 

That my friend is both wrong and defeatist. I'm not up for that, nor being called a traitor; some of us have been in this fight a long time -- decades before either the Tea Party or Occupy organized.

Make no mistake, I don't disagree that there are traitors. But insofar as it's an infamous and capital offense, how about targeting the relatively few real culprits for the nice readers... inform, instead of insulting them.

All of which begs the question: What are you doing besides ranting? It's not a rhetorical question.

As for myself, I think I've got something useful you could be doing to defend the Constitution. If I'm right about it, well... Let's just see if you're interested in defending the Constitution enough to even ask. After all, didn't you write:

"Talk is worthless.  Doing is what counts.  Sitting back doing nothing while their "beloved Constitution" is shredded and violated is treason just as much as those shredding and violating it." -- fuckitall

Like you say, talk is cheap.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 01:11 | 3661829 fuckitall
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I'm convinced it's over.  It was good while it lasted. 

Time to save it was 100 years ago.  Nobody has shown any credible evidence it can be turned around now.  And no, not interested in some crazy future "some day" fantasy.

No nation stays free forever.  None.  We had our run, it was a good one.

"relatively few real culprits"?

Nonsense.  Everybody in govt is selling out the constitution (and BoR and DoI), US president down to city janitor.  That's millions.   Tack on millions more selling it out for checks / benefits / privileges.  Tack on three hundred million not even knowing what it says ...and not caring.

"We have rights!"

Bullshit. They couldn't cite legal authority for those so-called rights if someone held a gun to their ignorant heads.

Nope, not logistically possible turning it around now, and all you have is talk, nothing more, pot - kettle.

Bush was right.  "Just a damn piece of paper.  You're with us or the terrorists now."  ("us" means govt)

Hitler couldn't have said it any better.

It's the most important thing Bush ever said.  Major sea-change most everybody missed.  I caught it, and know what it means.

I'm making the mental transition to the new "way" we're headed into.  Same thing Germans had to do in 1940. 

Best ya'll do the same, but it's your choice.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 02:55 | 3662147 Spanky
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"I'm convinced it's over." -- fuckitall

Then it is. Pity. You are we.

 

"Time to save it was 100 years ago." -- fuckitall

The "good old days" argument? Surely you jest.

 

"Nobody has shown any credible evidence it can be turned around now." -- fuckitall

Nor will you until we do.

 

"[N]ot interested in some crazy future "some day" fantasy." -- fuckitall

Nor I. I live here. I know what's at stake. I can see how fast it's moving now, entering the end game. I know enough about what we're up against to be scared. Fantasy doesn't figure into it. Numbers do. And it might just be crazy enough to work by capturing the imagination and capitalizing on discontent.

 

"No nation stays free forever." -- fuckitall

Perhaps not, but it's hard to posit a better goal, don't you think?

 

"We had our run, it was a good one." -- fuckitall

So, just give up? You advocate what you protest? Expect some Hellfire shortly.

Yes, a relatively few culprits. (Another has just been positively identified.) You cast your net too wide. Ideology perhaps? Moral bankruptcy? Jealousy and envy?

You're a decent writer: Either bitch and vent uselessly, or do a little research and find out if what I advocate might have a snowball's chance in hell. Do you understand your fundamental Constitutional right to revoke your consent to be governed by a corrupt government? If so, act creatively at the ballot box.

"No nation stays free forever." It's either an eulogy or a challenge. Your choice. Always has been.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 06:29 | 3662229 fuckitall
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"or do a little research and find out if what I advocate might have a snowball's chance in hell.

Look moron, no legal thing you have to advocate has a snowball's chance in hell, and that includes all your revocation / rescission / admiralty / common law / whatever bullshit.

What part of "they won't recognize it" do you NOT understand?

You and your crazy ilk think you're gonna march into America's equivalent of Hitler's courts and claim some no-longer-under-Hitler's-authority status and not be thrown out on your ears ...or thrown in jail for contempt?

Go right on ahead, knock your idiot selves out trying.  Like I said, Darwin award candidates.

Only thing that would turn it around now (assuming you hope to turn it around for everyone not just your dumbasses) is way the hell superior military badass, and there ain't none of it among you.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 08:07 | 3662296 Spanky
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"Look moron..." -- fuckitall

Too bad you you can't be bothered to do anything other than attempt lame insults. I find most people tell you all about themselves in the bullshit they hurl at others.

Personally I don't give a damn whether "they" recognize anything we do or not. I don't believe in asking the hired help's opinion, nor giving them any choice in the matter. Nor do I think the answer lies in the courts. Unfortunately it's in your mirror.

And you're right, ain't no military badasses 'round here... Would much prefer to keep it that way too. Not too many fools in my 'hood. But then not only do we have to contend with the elite and their puppets, but your dumbass too.

I'd ask you to pull your head out of your ass, again, but apparently you're comfortable in that position.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3662767 fuckitall
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Hey idiot, if they don't recognize it in the courts, and you push it anyway, you WILL be at a military point with 'em. 

You know the saying, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box.  You admit ballot box is out, and we agree.  You say screw jury box (courts), you don't care. Ok, you're at cartridge box now, and you say you're not ready for that.  Your dumbass better get ready cause it's coming, and yes you'll lose, die possibly.  Or just end up in jail more likely, since you plan no armed response.

Either way, thumbing your nose at govt, what you're implying, is a real losing position.  But you're Darwin award candidates, so whatever.

And of course all you can do is throw insults becuase you have no legit argument / advocacy / plan / whatever. 

And no, that "we can't reveal it" bullshit ain't gonna fiy either.  If it's legit somewhere down the road when you do reveal it, it's legit now and doesn't need hiding, but it's neither, and I suspect you'll find out the hard way, how Darwin award candidates like you typically learn.

And yes they're getting sorta Hitlerish now, meaning way less or no tolerance for your kind of legal nonsense.

But hey, there was underground resistance all thru Hitler's regime, emphasis on "underground", certainly not out in the open thumbing your noses at 'em like you're implying.

The only legal status you have is what they recognize and accept, if you wana live long and prosper so to speak, or just live period.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 18:20 | 3663365 Spanky
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"Hey idiot..." -- fuckitall

As much fun as it is, and cathartic as well, shall we dispense with the schoolyard name calling now?

 

You miss my point completely -- I contend the ballot box is not useless. Nor am I "hiding" what I advocate. I do not expect the state to roll over and play dead. We face a dogfight, both you and I agree. But we cannot afford to abandon politics until we exhaust all our options; Constitutionally speaking, this is our last political resort. Will it work? If people will not stand up, anonymously, in the ballot box, and cast their votes in a political attack that TPTB cannot easily defend, it certainly won't and we will get the governance we deserve.

So that we know, exactly, what we discuss, let me lay it out...

From a practical perspective, all I'm asking anyone to do is walk into the ballot box, and, without voting for *any* candidate, mark "No Consent" on their ballot. That's it. No public advocacy. No street protests. Nothing to expose anyone to TPTB, unless you choose to do so, as I am doing now.

Is it "legal"? Of course not -- nor is it "illegal" either. But it is Constitutional. Consider it one of those "unenumerated" rights protected by the Ninth. Our right to withdraw our consent is found in both the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and protected by the Bill of Rights. Consent is the philosophical as well as practical foundation of the Constitution. TPTB cannot ignore consent because all their governmental legitimacy rests upon our collective consent to be governed by them.

Now you can claim TPTB do not have to recognize what we do in opposition, and you are quite correct. But they cannot ignore it either. The twin-parties may be Kabuki theater, but the underlying reason to continue this charade is serious -- the government's crediability rests upon "elections" (and TPTB's candidates winning the vast majority of those elections). Many, if not most Americans believe they live in a democracy. Many, if not most Americans believe they are protected by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Most believe we are "free" and that our elections prove these points. Like you said, we run around talking about our rights constantly.

So what happens when these "necessary" illusions are stripped away? Could we harness that outrage? What would be the effect if 10M, or 30M, or 60m or 100M voters withdrew their consent to be governed by the corrupt bastards? How many of those voters might be in the military and police forces? If protests broke out after a significant minority (say 20 to 30% of the electorate) voted to withdraw their consent, would the military and police remain willing to enforce the government's dictates and orders? How about 100M?

The point is to make it an explicitly Constitutional challenge, and if an outright majority cannot be had, the minority vote will inject some chaos and uncertainty into TPTB's well-laid plans. This is normative politics -- let's use their propaganda against them.

But it's all for nought, if the guy in the mirror doesn't show up. Until we agree on some course of action between ourselves, TPTB will continue kicking our ass.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:13 | 3660130 dognamedabu
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My favourite is Lesbians against Bush. Man I still laugh hard. It never gets old. Unlike lesbians. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:37 | 3660526 krispkritter
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What was their full name...? It's on the tip of my tongue...oh yeah:

Lesbians Against Bush In America

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 16:25 | 3661301 Colonel Klink
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If you want to join'em, lick'em!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:46 | 3660064 Atomizer
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Problem, action, solution!

 

We lost all the WTC 7 FBI records for Enron case. The next distraction begins, fortunately these documents are logged in the NSA database for retrieval.

Allegedly, NSA can produce all documents for both cases considering they were only tracking foreign terrorist suspected/profiled in committing a crime. Tag, your it NSA!  

Rep. Jim Jordan DESTROYS FBI Director Mueller on IRS Targeting Scandal 

Stripping power to incompetent figureheads will become plan A. Removing any and all pension entitlements/salary will become plan B. Nightingales generally speak once the cards have been handed to them. No one needs GITMO to seek information. 

Good night Janet. Tonight, have a lesbian orgasm on me! You’ll definitely be sharper in the morning.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:49 | 3660071 DarthVaderMentor
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No, I think he's starting the war as a distraction for what he knows is coming in the equities markets.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:51 | 3660075 fonzannoon
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Hey guys I can't link it but can someone throw the Rueters article on Duetsche Bank being called "horribly undercapitalized" by Thomas Heonig and the FDIC?

Holy shit. Tyler where are u on this one.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:58 | 3660092 fonzannoon
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Thanks LTER. It's on now. DB, MS, UBS, Credit agricole. the tin foil hat shit is all coming main stream now. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:01 | 3660101 LetThemEatRand
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It certainly is an unusual grain of truth in a silo full of bullshit. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:24 | 3660146 Yen Cross
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 Fonz and LTER Kick butt. +2

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:56 | 3660196 kito
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You can't be under capitalized when your backstop is the fed and ECB...........trillions moved around like currents in the ocean....flowing yet barely perceptible........

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:59 | 3660201 fonzannoon
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just another glitch in the matrix? or is there really some collateral failure going on behind the curtain? JPM lobs a grenade at DB and DB starts firing on Credit Agricole etc.?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:04 | 3660207 kito
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Or perhaps some dude at DB skanked the wife of some FDIC dude in the coatroom at the bilderburg after hours event.....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:10 | 3660216 fonzannoon
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we always knew it would end up with skanking.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:12 | 3660305 Parisnights
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to put a twist on an earlier post; Cunty skanking skankity skank

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:06 | 3660773 blindman
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here an interesting factoid. when the b burgers
are done they send in a white coat clean up crew
and remove the carpets and have the place scrubbed.
what is the deal with that? are they that messy?
.
Watch this episode of the UK Column Live below, as Mike and Brian break down the latest international financial coup d’état:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/06/14/inside-bilderberg-clues-left-in-th...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:10 | 3660217 dognamedabu
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You dirty dog. Sounds like a confession. Kito playa!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:14 | 3660225 kito
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Oh to dream of such grandeur.......

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:16 | 3660232 fonzannoon
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there were rumors floating around all week that db lost the midget toss at bilderberg...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:22 | 3660246 kito
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Lol.....I just skanked a half eaten slice of cold pizza left out on the kitchen table by my kids....delicious.....probably not as good as the bankers wife...but....alas....this is my life.....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:37 | 3660267 Yen Cross
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  I shit you not. I've had this tube in my bookmarks for over a year. I laughed my fucking ass off when I watched it.

  * I'm not rayciss, but I'm long VELCRO !

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-sfqzFdmk    

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:02 | 3660203 Yen Cross
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   Kito, you forgot the BOJ.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:09 | 3660213 kito
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Yes....question is...what about the pboc?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:25 | 3660250 Yen Cross
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   Kito  PBoC is short ¥, so it's a wash.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:19 | 3660237 g'kar
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The Douche Bank is under crapitalized. Won't Berbanke just bail 'em out?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:54 | 3660571 NoClueSneaker
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thx LTER . Reuters didn't mentioned the last 4 BN wich Douche Bank panhandled from Qatar .

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:51 | 3660186 Fuku Ben
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Hoenig reminds me a bit of Brooksley Born

Saying and trying to do the right things usually don't end well for those people in the land of Oz run by the banksters

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:54 | 3660082 Van Halen
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"

But you know what?  Many of these Syrian rebels have actually pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The whole point of the "war on terror" was to supposedly fight al-Qaeda, but now the U.S. military is allied with them."

This is the Left Wing thinking they can get use Islam as a tool against the rest of us to move themselves into greater control. Unfortunately, the Muslims are looking at the Left as the tools. Considering the amount of territory the Muslims have picked up on this planet in the last, oh, fifteen years, I'd put my money on them winning the Great Battle for World Domination after the rest of us have been moved safely aside.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:57 | 3660195 Fuku Ben
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Yes, but this is AQ in Syria not AQ. They are not on the State Dept list of T entities yet so it is all nice and legal

Create them, fund them, unleash them. Keep them off the list. Use them for what you need. When you're done with them toss them out like yesterday's garbage and add them to the list.

Wash, rinse, repeat on your next target. AQ in __________ (fill in the blank)

That's the game

Same shit different Presidency

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:40 | 3660726 Everybodys All ...
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There is no difference ... What the heck are we doing Obama? Hey, lets send them all more arms so they can blow some more of our guys up again. Impeach this asshole now.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130614-thousands-egypt-islamists-rally-syria-jihad

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:10 | 3660882 Kirk2NCC1701
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And yet -- ironically enough -- the troops and its brass feel like they are such glorious 'Patriots' who probably 'deserve' a job some day, and the public is supposed to "Support our Troops".

Oh the irony. The truth... burns.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:55 | 3660085 rubiconsolutions
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Well, this is interesting. The united states will arm rebels with weapons, probably containing depleted uranium to fight the Assad regime that allegedly used chemical weapons. What a cluster f&*#. Keep on wagging that dog there Barry.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:01 | 3660089 doggis
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war - a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism

THIS IS NO WAR BY DEFINITION.

SYRIA HAS POSED NO HOSTILITY TOWARDS "THE UNITED STATES OF AGRESSION AND WAR" {OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE USA}.

SYRIA HAS NO CONFLICT WITH THE USSA {OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE STASI AMERICAN EMPIRE}.

SYRIA HAS NO ANTAGONISM TO THE CULT OF BLOOD LUST [IE, USA].

 

LET US TRUTHFULLY CALL THIS ACTION FOR WHAT IT IS. THIS IS TERRORISM OF EMPIRE WHICH IS LEVELED AGAINST ALL THAT STAND BEFORE IT. 

USSA!


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:48 | 3660099 surf0766
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YES

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:03 | 3660104 Poor Grogman
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1. Without masterful lies and bold deception the FED would not exist.

2. Without the FED, .GOV would have to control it's spending.

3. Without unlimited free debt money, there would be no military industrial war machine.

4. Without a war machine, enemies and bitter hatred would not be growing and multiplying all around the world.

The seven DEADLY sins..

A proud look
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood
A heart that devises wicked plots
Feet that are swift to run into mischief
A deceitful witness that uttereth lies
Him that soweth discord among brethren

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:18 | 3660896 Kirk2NCC1701
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You need to complete your train of thought: And w/o the MIC, gunboat diplomacy ends.

Thus ends also the NWO globalization, the boa-like encirclement of Russia, and the military support of Israel.

We could then focus on... Over-population, education, health care, space exploration...

But we mustn't have that! /s

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:17 | 3660123 Brixton Guns
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The Wag-The-Dogness of this move is a side benefit for sure, but no thats not the primary reason.  This is a meticulously calculated move, planned for years in advance, one that marches forward a timeline toward an all-out NATO attack on Syria led by the rogue nation of Israel, followed by the same led by the same leading the attack on Iran, which in effect unleashes WWIII aka Armageddon, where billions die.  This is all by design, following a satanic aka NWO agenda led by zionist members of the synagogue-of-satan Edomite bloodline.  Every move is carefully computed and social responses forecast by a supercomputer array underneath McLean VA called literally, The Beast.  Same computer that gives us weather forecast data.  You and I exist in this Virtual World Simulator as "nodes".

There are no accidents, no coincidences.  All the world's a stage.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:50 | 3660351 TheMerryPrankster
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you like dogs don't you? well Syria fucks dogs an then they eat em. - With apologies to Bill Hicks.

Don't Syria have:

Yellowcake

Anthrax

al quieda

nuclear weapons development

weapons of mass destruction

and whatever other myths we can spin to justify killing more strangers to make a buck.

War is a racket and Syria is of no consequence to the U.S., so why a war? Why don't we invade Grenada again. It's closer, a pushover and we can  reuse the old news footage.

 

Syria, Really? WTF?

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 16:33 | 3663216 Sparkey
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Brixton even the most powerful computer cannot see the future, the future hasen't happened yet, so predictions, are at best guesses. There are more than a few wild cards in this poker hand, the first one is; they know we are coming and they have had twenty years to prepare, the other recuring meme is; Every one will be hurt except, the ultra wealthy, the ultra wealthy will emerge with even more money, (and power), than they have now. You might program a computer to get this result, but I think it doubtfull the future will be what anyone would wish for!    `Lots of mention about the "New" Cold War, we have already had the Cold War, now we only have to win the hot one and Victory will be complete. (I'm going to my cottage on the Moon, I'll be back when it is over, or when the World cools down, see you then!)

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:13 | 3660127 Mr. Hudson
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Nobody knows why our government does what it does. You can guess all you want. I look at who controls Obama's puppet strings.

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 03:05 | 3662158 Spanky
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Cui bono...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:13 | 3660128 Gift Whores
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Remind me again, which shade of red line are they not to cross?

Obama needs to grow a pair.  This is a sideshow.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:14 | 3660131 Misean
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Shit man...now follow that headline with a mind blowers like these:

Will the sun yet again rise in the east tomorrow?

Is the Pope still Catholic?

Do bears really shit in the woods?

 

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:20 | 3660140 spooz
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You bet.  Check the headlines on Huffpo, New York Times and the Washington Post.  All Syria. So we have to argue about the insanity of arming Syrian rebels who have pledged loyalty to our arch enemy, Al Qaeda, instead of keeping the spotlight on Big Brother and the creeping police state.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:50 | 3660147 sitenine
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Ode to the Peace Prize winning POTUS:

 

2010-11 War in Iraq. Operation New Dawn. On February 17, 2010, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced that as of September 1, 2010, the name "Operation Iraqi Freedom" would be replaced by "Operation New Dawn". This coincides with the reduction of American troops to 50,000.
2011 - Libya. Operation Odyssey Dawn. Coalition forces enforcing U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 with bombings of Libyan forces. (we came, we saw, he died)
2011 - War on Terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is killed by U.S. military forces in Pakistan as part of Operation Neptune Spear. (his body was taken and then inexplicably thrown overboard shortly thereafter ???)
2011 - Somalia. Drone strikes on al-Shabab militants begin in Somalia. This marks the 6th nation in which such strikes have been carried out, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya. (included an American target)
2011 - Uganda. US Combat troops sent in as 'advisers' to Uganda.
2012 - Jordan. 150 US troops deployed to Jordan to help it contain the Syrian Civil War within Syria's borders.
2012 - Turkey. 400 troops and two batteries of Patriot missiles sent to Turkey to prevent any missile strikes from Syria.
2012 - Chad. 50 U.S. troops have deployed to the African country of Chad to help evacuate U.S. citizens and embassy personnel from the neighboring Central African Republic's capital of Bangui in the face of rebel advances toward the city.
2013 - Mali. US forces assisted the French in Operation Serval with air refueling and transport aircraft.
2013 - Somalia. US Air Force planes supported the French in the Bulo Marer hostage rescue attempt. However, they did not use any weapons.
2013 - Syria.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:20 | 3660242 g'kar
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Keep a bookmark on this one sitenine, you'll be adding a lot to this one before it's over.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:24 | 3660600 dcohen
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2020 - End of the US empire, US turned into a third world regime

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:27 | 3660911 Kirk2NCC1701
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2013 Syria: note the author's quote of the LA Times, that we might bring their Refugees over here.

Note also that I commented last week that, per an RT article the week before, that Israel is shipping 60,000 of its African workers to an 'unspecified' country.

I then commented sarcastically, that they will first be driven to camps in Syria, and then re-branded as 'Refugees' and sent to the EU and the USSA.

Mark my words... this will happen.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:32 | 3660153 disabledvet
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First off let me say...directly to the President if i may...SIGN ME UP! I'm seventy pounds heavier, wear big glasses and take medication for incontinence...BUT I'M READY! My attitude problem is as great if not GREATER now as it was then ...i don't think that will change ANYTIME. EVER. Havvvvvving said that--"a plan for victory is always nice to hear" as well. I'm an American...I LIKE WINNING. So far this President is undefeated in my book...i understand most refuse to partake in these matters to begin with...i was never one of those people so what has been said here is not surprising. But while the last one had one of the greatest land invasions in all of history...there was no plan for follow through. Is that the plan this time as well? Don't tell me "we're going in light and fast" either. We're a trillion in debt because of that claim the last time it was made. ("We're making sure we don't harm the economy"? really?. Note to self...no more Presidents from Texas.) And second...are you sure QE can handle it...cuz obviously "this war ain't being paid by growth in the economy" like the last one supposedly was. In other words "lets see those ruthless industrialists who are going to make this happen." Who's that French dude from United Technologies again? The guy who got the top job "not because he was Mr. Six Sigma" but because he actually was in charge of creating a revolutionary technology that has changed the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geared_turbofan hard to imagine General Electric ever invented anything looking at them now. Too much grab ass at 30 Rock again? Go figure...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:01 | 3660198 Brixton Guns
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My family's history in military and intel taught me early on the extents of brainwashing in the armed forces, which is the primary reason I never served.  That, and pincushioning up as guinea pigs for vaccine experimentation.  Semper Fi my ass..

Also, my ex-gfs late dad was VP at GE and oversaw building of nuke plants, one of which was Fukushima whose reactors failed PRIOR to the artificial quake and tsunami.  Stuxnet?  Flame?

Buehller?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:40 | 3660158 Mayberry
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This new war is not designed to redirect our focus. Its part of a long term planned movement to recast the world by removing the old colonial system implemented by the white men.

We are in the middle of a world wide slow motion marxist revolution.

Everything that is happening; Everything, except like NSA issue by Snowden, is planned.

The country is being run by Valerie Jarret and hundreds of staff on behalf of a quiet ultra wealthy group. Obama is simply a front man. They give him a teleprompter to read so they can control what he says because he is so stupid.

Fast and Furious (foment civil war in Mexico), Lybia, Egypt, multiple wars we are not told about; NSA data collection, increasing control over US citizens; capital controls; brazil can drill for oil here but we cant (redistribution of wealth); breaking of US economy by purposely spending our wealth ("this can't go on forever" Obama); stealing the election; irs attack tea party; gun confiscation; paid trolls on every news comment venue every where (like zerohedge) ; czars instead of senate comfirmed department heads; the FBI going into elementary schools and having them pledge to be good citizens and 'follow all our countries laws'on and on. Agenda 21, OWG. Softlaws. 

Its planned and being flawlessly implemented. They are pushing forward on all levels at all times under the assumption that eventually the people will rise up, and then they will declare marshall law and invoke the final step - suspension of the constitution. I am sure they are shocked that they have gotten this far without any resistance rising up yet. 

So step back and see the really big picture; we are being outflanked and out matched and we are losing our freedom and it wll be our fault for not being vigilant.

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:17 | 3660233 WAMO556
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Battle of Britian!!!

The issue is NOT decided! Fight! Go where angels fear to tread!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:45 | 3660340 August
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Please: it's MARTIAL law.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:24 | 3660484 Mayberry
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You are right. - and no 'edit' button! My excuse: It was late after a long day. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:36 | 3660159 Hal n back
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the moar things change the moar they stay the same

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:04 | 3660205 Brixton Guns
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every year i get older, they stay the same age...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:48 | 3660160 Yen Cross
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  Someone put a fork in that bloated "Donald Trump"...<

   That assclown is soooo.... out of touch with reality.  He must be :Fudge Packing: bILL gROSS!

     Faux pax news,  is in the process of being broken up.

  That douchebag is a joke! Donald Trump is an(self ingratiating) idiot!

      I'm a conservative, and the bullshite is getting deep!

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:58 | 3660162 Aurora Ex Machina
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No, he's not. They're starting it because The Family and other militant religious groups in the USA, Israel, Vatican and so on are trying to force the incarnation of the New Messiah to emerge.

Hint: Jesus spent ages of 8 - 33 where?  Probably looking at horses and donkeys fucking, the local military police sweeping the area (Hai Rome!) and so on. Even after such an illustrious education (without even learning Greek, and the modern of the times educational texts) he turns up at the Temple, throws over the money-lenders tables and says "Fuck you".

Have you any idea what a "Jesus" of today, with the mind of GOD could do if s/he was tapped into the subconscious of humanity, aka, the intarweb? What would s/he do with the years outside the pipe, apart from strip all the data from your Intarweb?

 

I'd guess (and this is only a guess), s/he'd be saying: Instead of throwing over the tables, which didn't work, I'll break your entire system, and force you to live as real humans.

Just a guess there baby, it's not fucking rocket science.

p.s. Yes, we will judge you by the messengers you send, but hey. Both sides: fucking boring. Well done, you managed to bore the shit out of this mind. I wouldn't have minded, unless you'd data mined my progress and planned it all (thanks for the data sphere stuff, so EDGY you twats, like I couldn't see it) and ruined my holiday. And that, that is where you fucked up (both sides). Run an OP on me? I'll accept it, if you're any good. If you're not, well. Teaching is part of my mythic stance, no?

 

> Hmm. Might want to parse that out, old ones.

 

If neither side has anything to offer, then. Well. Why the fuck should I spare your species? All of you. I expected a new mind & genome, sparkling genius that took my mind into the realms it was intended for. Emotional grab that spoke of eons of waiting. Got pap. Time. To. Die. And the best thing? Kill me, and your species is doomed.

We come to renew the compact, we're not here for fun. Fuck me are your species cunts or what. Oh, and great going on that entire ecosystem thing: top marks for that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:10 | 3660219 Arkadaba
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Dear AexM

A few questions. I've read your posts over the past few months and noted a few things that I like 

a.) You sometimes have an interesting point of view (if I've read you correctly but sometimes not sure that I have)

b.) You noted the passing of Iain Banks (one of best writers of this era)

c.) You have linked to some awesome bands including Joy Division.

d.) And yes I've seen things too

What I don't understand is why your comments are full of "hints" and clues rather than being open and transparent. Is it a test? If so, for who? Are you playing with the readers? Are you full of shit? Or maybe I'm just not smart enough to figure it out?

Respectfully 

Arka

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:39 | 3660253 Aurora Ex Machina
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You're a spook, instant spotted. But let's play:

A) My points of view are always shaped by the hungry Algos and Palantir shaped data mining. If you can't spot their future predictions, honesty and money making angles, then you're a spook, not a player. So fuck off.

B) I noted many things, including the Death of Democracy. So fuck off.

C) I can link to many many more; I usually narrow the range to those that ZH readers are familiar with (hint: never link to the most obvious piece of shit when addressing a predator, take the time to fashion your hook, you fucking joke). So fuck off.

D) I've seen the death of species, the end of worlds, the rape of women, that moment when a hypocrite is outed in the open...

I'll tell you a little story here, since your paycheck depends on it. When I was young (oh so young, but probably on the cusp of puberty) I was eating a *chicken* drumstick (we're translating here - just realized you'll imagine this as literal. Whatever: it's a chicken level mind thing). Biting on it, tearing at it while I watched a puppet show. Then, suddenly, close to the bone, it was all red, bloody and real. I gagged. I choked. I swallowed and looked on the raw bone and red flesh and reality of eating a living being. My young mind suddenly realized that I was eating a (now no longer) living being. Now, most of you, when you hit reality, go screaming to being a vegetarian.

Me? Well, I just went on and ate it. But the real revelation was: if that was *a sentient being* and I was desperate, well, I'd eat it. That was the moment I knew that I didn't want to eat your kind, I didn't want to hunt your kind, but, at the end of the day, I'm gonna fucking eat you if I'm hungry. [Hint: parse this, bitch]. I like you peeps. But that ain't gonna stop me eating you, I'm just the engaged version.

 

So fuck off.

 

Arka:

Yes, you're not smart enough. If you've the best you have, you've lost. Send someone a little more skilled next time. Oh, and kill yourself, your salary is a joke (want me to look into your life?). This was sad. I only answered it because I know you're being paid to do it: it's called charity.

 

 

So fuck off, you bore me. Oh, and I'd eat you if we went camping and I was hungry enough. Deal with it.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:43 | 3660271 Arkadaba
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LOL - I'm anything but a spook. If that is what you think I am ... well ... that is telling.

I posted those questions because I was honestly curious and guess I received some type of answer though not what I expected. 

Sorry to disturb you - all the best!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:56 | 3660281 Aurora Ex Machina
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The lesson was quite simple:

 

Be smart, or get eaten. You're running around advertising how edible you are. I might have ethical qualms about eating you; most of my species don't. Oh, and that lame single link to Blade Runner was an insult, not a friendly gesture. If you're going to play the hyperlink game, at least know the basics.

 

 

>Huntable. S/He's yours. (Sorry, part of the deal here)

 

 

p.s. The junk ain't gonna solve how edible s/he is. *shrug*. It isn't my problem if you put yourself out in the sphere and so on. Fast though, fast. Next time try and have some balls and play with the predators instead of junking and running. I'll guarantee an audience.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:49 | 3660307 Arkadaba
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I didn't downvote you. 

So given the references to "your kind" and "my species" what - you aren't human? 

Edit: Are you a gamer?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:49 | 3660619 lakecity55
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O M G

It must be an HFT machine that came to life.

Aieeee!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:35 | 3660922 Professorlocknload
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Is it edible?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:54 | 3660284 Mr. Hudson
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I checked the data on AexM. He is a recovering alcoholic who just relapsed. It's called "drunk talk". Otherwise, he is harmless.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:44 | 3660336 MeBizarro
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No my bet is that he has received at least one anti-psychotic or more medication in the past and quite possibly should be on.  His posts usually incorporate a wide array of topics/thoughts but laid in a pattern and fashion that is very difficult or impossible to comprehend.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 11:51 | 3660845 noless
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I find his writing to be exceptionally clear... Generally appreciate his commentary.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:26 | 3660892 Aurora Ex Machina
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You guys really don't get META do you? Hint: if you thought that little exchange made no sense at all, that's the joke. Re-read it, then parse it as Satire on what the minds driving all of this war shit are thinking, and you might find it funny.

Swift felt that humbling human pride, enabling a more honest self-assessment, was absolutely vital to addressing the suffering and injustice so prevalent in human life. Contrary to many who label Swift a misanthropist, Swift was a man who cared deeply about humanity for that reason he produced a work like Gulliver’s Travels. Weilding the scalpel of satire, Swift cuts through our self-deception to our pride, the source of our moral denial and inertia. As we travel with Gulliver through the voyages, Swift makes us see over our pretensions, layer by layer, until he shows us what we are and defies us to be better. To Swift, Man is a mixture of sense and nonsense; he had accomplished much but had fallen far short of what he could have been and what he could have done.

In Gulliver’s Travels, Jonathan Swift continues to vex the world so that it might awaken to the fact that humankind needs saving, but it has to save itself.

 

Thanks for those two responses though, very predictable. Alcohol abuse then the crazy accusation. After you're told, repeatedly, that the NSA is running algos on your content and attempting to make sense of it, you think you can match my input to a mental illness? You don't think anyone is aware of the algos, and running interference? You think, possibly, that getting rip-roaring drunk is not a weakness, but part of the role, as it guarantees randomness?

 

"We know what you'll type before you type it".

 

Fucking fascinating there. You deserve a gold star for your normative bias. No wonder your kind want to kill off Humanities education, you always destroy what you can't understand. And never make the mistake that I'm playing the full deck here on ZH. Cards up the sleeves and all.

 

p.s.

Always remember that Gulliver's Travels has four parts, not just the little and big people. It's a tell if you don't spot it.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:28 | 3660319 yatikto
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here we go again.

don't argue with women.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:58 | 3660963 Professorlocknload
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No, he's not. They're starting it because The Family and other militant religious groups in the USA, Israel, Vatican and so on are trying to force the incarnation of the New Messiah to emerge.

Chilling thought. Knowin' this reincarnate icon is perceived to materialize from a mushroom cloud.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:38 | 3660164 tony bonn
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obama is starting a war not only because he is a murdering thug, but because his rockefeller nazi overlords have so ordered it as has the bush crime syndicate....john bolton and all of the other trogladyte neocons have planned this takeover for decades....it is outlined in the project for a new american century or something similarly named....it is all dick cheney horseshit to conquor the middle east and "to protect you"

all you warmongering cunts can go to hell....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:24 | 3660248 Ginsengbull
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It was actually the Clinton regime that first pushed for "regime change in iraq".

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:03 | 3660579 NoClueSneaker
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Me thinks t was Carter / Zbigniew Brzezinsky ... oh, never mind ...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:41 | 3660166 Atomizer
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The same dead beat that thought futurist internet, social media, and personal unadulterated data mining would offset the derivatives crisis is dead wrong.

David Rockefeller quote

We go back to these two parties, not your daily reading for most.

Trilateral Commission

Club of Rome= if you have IP blocking aids, screen will load earth and black screen recycling every 3 seconds for NSA transparency guidelines. Fact.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:46 | 3660179 Cabreado
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"Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?"

It is appropriate to judge the state of affairs and the health of the organization by simply... the questions asked.

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:48 | 3660180 Peter Pan
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A war with Syria is not to cover the scandals that have taken place.

A war with Syria is to cover up the scandals that are to come.

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