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Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Well, isn't that convenient?  At the moment when the Obama administration is feeling more heat then ever before, it starts another war.  Suddenly everyone in the mainstream media is talking all about Syria and not about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA snooping or any of the other political scandals that have popped up in recent weeks.

As if on cue, Obama made headlines all over the globe on Thursday by claiming that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons against the rebels "multiple times", and that the U.S. was now ready to do more to assist the rebels.  That assistance is reportedly going to include "military support" for the rebels and a no-fly zone over at least part of Syria is being discussed.  Without a doubt, these are acts of war, and this conflict is not going to end until Assad has been ousted.  But Assad will not go quietly. 

And all it would take is for Assad to fire a couple of missiles at Tel Aviv for a huge regional war to erupt in the Middle East.  And what happens if Russia or China decides to get involved in the conflict in Syria?  Obama is playing with fire, but he has shown again and again that he is willing to do virtually anything if it will benefit him politically.

As far as the Obama administration is concerned, there is no such thing as a coincidence.  The timing of this announcement regarding Syria was not an accident.  If Obama wanted to use chemical weapons as an excuse to go after Syria he could have done it weeks ago, or he could have waited several more months before taking action.  He chose to do it right now for a reason, and hopefully the American people will be able to see right through this.

So exactly what are we going to be doing for the Syrian rebels?  Well, we will definitely be arming them and training them.  And it is probably reasonable to assume that there will be American "advisers" on the ground inside Syria helping to organize the Syrian resistance.  In fact, according to Debka, a large U.S. Marine force has already been deployed to the Jordanian border with Syria.

In addition, according to the Wall Street Journal, U.S. aircraft may be involved in enforcing a no-fly zone inside Syria...

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

 

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

 

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

No matter how you slice it, the United States is now in a state of war with Syria.  The only question is how "involved" we are going to get.

And several prominent Republicans are already rushing forward to applaud Barack Obama on this latest move.  The following comes from a CBS News report...

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who met with the rebels last month and has been a vocal critic of the president's Syria policy said in a joint statement with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: "We appreciate the President's finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President's red line has been crossed. U.S. credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions."

But you know what?  Many of these Syrian rebels have actually pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The whole point of the "war on terror" was to supposedly fight al-Qaeda, but now the U.S. military is allied with them.

Why in the world would we want to help the people who are supposed to be our greatest global enemy?...

A Syrian rebel group's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda's replacement for Osama bin Laden suggests that the terrorist group's influence is not waning and that it may take a greater role in the Western-backed fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.

 

The pledge of allegiance by Syrian Jabhat al Nusra Front chief Abou Mohamad al-Joulani to al-Qaeda leader Sheik Ayman al-Zawahri was coupled with an announcement by the al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq, that it would work with al Nusra as well.

 

Lebanese Sheik Omar Bakri, a Salafist who says states must be governed by Muslim religious law, says al-Qaeda has assisted al Nusra for some time.

 

"They provided them early on with technical, military and financial support , especially when it came to setting up networks of foreign jihadis who were brought into Syria," Bakri says. "There will certainly be greater coordination between the two groups."

This group of jihadists has been responsible for car and suicide bombings all over Syria, and they are the ones that have been doing the heaviest fighting on the front lines...

When the group Jabhat al Nusra first claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries claimed that the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad and to hide the regime’s own brutal tactics.

 

Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.

 

Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.

 

The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaida in Iraq – an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.

These are no "freedom fighters".  In fact, if these guys take over they will be much worse than Assad.  These "rebels" recently massacred an entire villages of Christians, and just two days ago they slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed...

The rebels, according to ABC News’ reconstruction of the Syrian groups’ reports, appear to have whipped Qatta. When they brought him back to where they’d taken him, his head was wrapped by a shirt.

 

The rebels waited for a crowd to gather; Qatta’s parents were among them. Speaking in classical Arabic, they announced that Qatta had committed blasphemy and that anyone else who dared insult the Prophet Mohammed would share his fate. Then, the shirt still wrapped around the boy’s head, the rebels shot him in the mouth and neck.

Is this really who the U.S. government wants to be allies with?

Are we that stupid?

And guess what?  According to the Los Angeles Times, the Obama administration is considering plans to bring all of the poor "refugees" that are allied with these "rebels" to the United States...

Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns.

 

A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

But now we are committed to this conflict thanks to Obama.

There will be no backing down until Assad is gone.

Of course this could create a huge regional war in the Middle East or even eventually lead to World War III, but Obama doesn't seem to care.

For now, Obama is saving his own skin, and that is the most important thing to him.

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Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:44 | 3660564 TWSceptic
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What difference does it make?

 

None, according to Hitlary.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:41 | 3660529 NoClueSneaker
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Obliterating women and children with cruise missiles in some village in Yemen is an definive achievement for the world peace . The children make noise and the women talk too much, definately terrorism.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:09 | 3660432 g'kar
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No, he was planning on doing this a long time ago. The timing was determined by when the excuse was created.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:11 | 3660588 Touch_It
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I feel sorry for the brave folks who join our military only to be sent on such missions. Imagine having to follow the orders of Obama to support a group of militant Muslims that hate th US in a war against a Muslim dictator who hates the US. WTF kind of mission is that?

And what abiut McCain's logic is that if we don't go to Syria this has a chance of escalating into a regional conflict. So arming the militants and sending Americans will calm things down. Russia will escalate support for Syria, Americans will die, and who kows what Israel may do ( proactively or in response to some attack).

Have we not learned from our past? What is success here? The installation of a Muslim brotherhood regime. Is that worth one once of blood or one fiat dollar?

At this point, has Obama now either continued, duplicated, or surpassed all of the Bush's evils?

End of rant.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:24 | 3659989 Colonel Klink
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In a word, yes.

Obama is a cunt of the first degree.

EDIT:  And GFY governmental information siezing and recording douchebags.  Just wanted to get that on the record.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:22 | 3660143 MiltonFriedmans...
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But colonel, the NSA must listen to our phone calls, read our e-mails, hack our computers and peek through our bedroom windows in order to protect us from Al-Queda, a terror group Obama now chooses to arm and risk American lives over (while he tries his best to take firearms away from law abiding American citizens). It all makes perfect sense; sarc off.
Calling him a cunt is an understement indeed.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:27 | 3660149 Colonel Klink
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Thanks but I'm happy to take care of myself and my own defense from them.  Everything about life is a risk, I'm not willing to forego my liberty for security, I'm responsible for that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659990 A Lunatic
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Well, at least it isn't that tired old "weapons of mass destruction" meme.......

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:09 | 3660370 RideTheWalrus
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Anyone remember the good 'ol days when the biggest scandle was a dodgy PDF birth certificate?

 

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 18:11 | 3661447 DosZap
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Obamster is not starting a war with Syria, he is starting a NEW Cold War with Russia,Putin is not he kind of dictator to mess with,he's got BALLS the size of Texas, and he is NOT afraid to step up and get into with us.And Obamster doing this is likely stepping on a trip wire.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:24 | 3659992 syntaxterror
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--> USA

--> Assad

Whom will Syrian rebel veterans be terror attacking 20 years from now?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:16 | 3660231 dark pools of soros
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lol syrian rebels - surely u jest

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEsDHozFeuc

 

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:44 | 3660530 NoClueSneaker
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First Iranians then Turks . Oh, wait ...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659993 dognamedabu
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Why not? Bush started a war with Iraq to distract from the fact he was an idiot. What's a few more dead middle east people compard to a five point rise in approval ratings?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:27 | 3660011 Colonel Klink
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Bush went into Iraq to nail Sadam for his attempt on his fathers life, oil, and to discourage movement for pricing oil away from the Petrodollar to the Euro.

Or at least that's my take on it.  The whole WMD thing was just the ruse to make it happen.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:31 | 3660018 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes re Saddam going after his pa.  If I were president, and someone had gone after my father, that someone would have been in "trouble plenty", I don't care who he was.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:27 | 3660050 Colonel Klink
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Agreed, which is the same conundrum faced by the state if they ever go after the American population.  Those police, soldiers, and FEMA personnel have family too.  I believe many would abandon their post if their family was directly affected.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:38 | 3660163 nmewn
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They're going to need bigger camps ;-)

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:48 | 3660350 Ginsengbull
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The kool-aid in their canteens will make them forget all about their families.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:30 | 3660257 mofreedom
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i hope someday we'll really know the reason, but gut tells me the Bush's and his folks have hearts that are in the wrong place entirely...at least they have hearts...and please no more bush's as president...i saw a nice chap beggin off the exit ramp of the interstate lookin for work today.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:45 | 3660342 Ginsengbull
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We went into Iraq and hung saddam, because he was paying the families of suicide bombers $20,000 to blow themselves up in Israel, as long as they used nails and rat poison in their bombs to kill as many as possible.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:58 | 3660400 JOYFUL
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to blow themselves up in Israel, as long as they used nails and rat poison in their bombs...

intruiging and novel thesis...

I had always thought "you" went into Iraq and 'hung saddam' because he started taking payment for oil in other than FRN...

links please?(particularly the 'rat poison-based bomb technology-sounds diabolical!!)

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:36 | 3660040 gatorengineer
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oh look a libtard.......

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:43 | 3660058 dognamedabu
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You got it wrong bitch. I cant stand all politicians. Left right up down. Its the only career where Im certain all are sociopaths. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:46 | 3660177 dognamedabu
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Except the ones you voted for.. They are at their desk right now trying to solve your problems. They love us. Ha ha. Omg want to watch a sad thing? Goto a rally. Their eyes are glazed over.. Buddy at podium could say anything and these cats would go woot! Man I hate people.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:49 | 3660069 dognamedabu
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Which btw the engineer should have been evident in my op. I critisized Bush and then agreed they all are a bunch of evil self absorbed sobs. You however only saw the Bush remark which made you see red and invoked a nonsence response. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:46 | 3660942 Bay of Pigs
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"nonsence"?

 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:23 | 3659994 kliguy38
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No Way....he won the Peace Prize and that would mean he's a criminal punk....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:25 | 3659998 Republi-Ken
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LOL.

TYLER sometimes you are just a fucking idiot.

War with Syria to distract from what scandals?  LOL. Never gonna happen.

Where are the scandals? I see a lots of accusations without facts.

Typical Republican Conservative Libertarian. False charges and wild exagerations. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:26 | 3660004 mick68
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You mean, besides the mountains of evidence brought by the whistleblowers? 

 

You're the idiot.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660037 DaddyO
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...not to mention a douche bag!

DaddyO

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:41 | 3660053 espirit
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...not to mention a trololololl.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:16 | 3660306 DollarMenu
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Back in earlier ZH days, 50 downvotes would get your post deleted.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:35 | 3660034 dognamedabu
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What part of guest post gots you confused? Maybe you still hungover from the campaign? 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:42 | 3660051 NoDebt
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Agreed that he's in no trouble from these scandals.  Might have side-tracked his agenda, but he's not getting sucked into them personally.

This muslim overthrow of a dictator isn't happening as easily as it did in the Arab Spring uprisings in multiple countries.  If fact, they're in danger of losing in Syria.  Can't let that happen.  No no no.  Time to help 'em out because we're so smart we know who the right people are to run their country.

We should stay the fuck out of all this.  But again, we won't.

FYI- Tylers are not idiots, from what's I've seen them produce.  This is a guest post.  If you have criticism, at least point it in the right direction.

 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:33 | 3660322 Andre
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Funny thing is, O could get sucked in. On the stuff Holder has pulled he could get himself in trouble. He'd appreciate it as a "Constitutional scholar" - in re Yamashita, US Supreme court ruling 1946.

General Yamashita was hung for the mistreatment of prisoners by his troops, despite a serious defense by a US military attorney centered around the facts (a) he was not fully aware of the extent of the mistreatment, and (b) he did not order the mistreatment. The ruling established the idea a commander is responsible for what his troops do or fail to do whether he orders the actions or not. Between Corzine's walk on egregious embezzlement, Fast and Furious, and all the rest, his lack of command over an extended period of time make him complicit in those situations.

Not that this will become relevant...

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:52 | 3660080 TeamDepends
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Look at those numbers, Ken.  I'm afraid we're going to have to let you go....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:06 | 3660114 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck that.  He'll just want unemthreadement benefits.  Make him share an office with Trav777.  He'll leave on his own for sure.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:07 | 3660407 JOYFUL
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Actually "Ken" has the makings of a monster success /// for the Tylers... now that MDB has pretty much run out of steam...SqueakyFromm hopelessly erratic.. and that guy with the environmental anti-gold angle apparently gone...

 a new crop of avatars is needed to keep the house rockin. The current crew of muzzie-bashin sock puppet inserts is so pathetically poor that the Tylers felt moved to get something more dynamic in motion!

Lil over the top... but hey... it's a start///Good kleen fun... and good luck Ken...Keep em comin!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:54 | 3660958 Bay of Pigs
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We need better trolls.

johnny bravo, Math Man, Spaulding Smails, GoldenMiddleFinger, William the Bastard, bob dabolina, etc...are all distant memories now.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 16:19 | 3661284 RockyRacoon
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Ah, the good ole days.  When a body could come to ZH for some thoughtful troll bashing.  We do miss them.

MasterBates morphed into Johnny Bravo and had some weird explanation of some kind...  He finally left, as he promised, because gold blew right past that ceiling he said couldn't be met... something like $700 or so?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:57 | 3660091 dognamedabu
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Just to make clear.. No libretarian worth their salt would ever call themselves repulican or conservative. See what we generally dont like is all forms of government. Experiance tells us no matter what if you have dogma you will end up being an asshole partisan. You are case in point.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:35 | 3660421 Spanky
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"See what we generally dont like is all forms of government." -- dognamedabu

 

OK. I've just gotta ask. Is this where all the anarchists went when the OWS site went rabidly Democratic?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:06 | 3660152 tarsubil
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If only accusing you of sucking dick was a wild exaggeration. ART* has worked for Obama so it should work for you too.

*ART = anti-retroviral treatment (for the HIV (contracted from a long life of playing "catcher"))

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:37 | 3660161 g'kar
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Ken's on an acid trip, don't mind him.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:44 | 3660171 surf0766
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Asshole

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:45 | 3660173 markar
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I just got 6 downvotes for you. Wish I had a few hundred more.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:57 | 3660289 Yen Cross
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  Let's make it a nice round  [74]

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:25 | 3660000 syntaxterror
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Is there a Nobel Prize for Propoganda Arts?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 21:32 | 3660022 DoChenRollingBearing
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Pulitzer Prize..., LOL

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