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Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Well, isn't that convenient?  At the moment when the Obama administration is feeling more heat then ever before, it starts another war.  Suddenly everyone in the mainstream media is talking all about Syria and not about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA snooping or any of the other political scandals that have popped up in recent weeks.

As if on cue, Obama made headlines all over the globe on Thursday by claiming that the Syrian government has used chemical weapons against the rebels "multiple times", and that the U.S. was now ready to do more to assist the rebels.  That assistance is reportedly going to include "military support" for the rebels and a no-fly zone over at least part of Syria is being discussed.  Without a doubt, these are acts of war, and this conflict is not going to end until Assad has been ousted.  But Assad will not go quietly. 

And all it would take is for Assad to fire a couple of missiles at Tel Aviv for a huge regional war to erupt in the Middle East.  And what happens if Russia or China decides to get involved in the conflict in Syria?  Obama is playing with fire, but he has shown again and again that he is willing to do virtually anything if it will benefit him politically.

As far as the Obama administration is concerned, there is no such thing as a coincidence.  The timing of this announcement regarding Syria was not an accident.  If Obama wanted to use chemical weapons as an excuse to go after Syria he could have done it weeks ago, or he could have waited several more months before taking action.  He chose to do it right now for a reason, and hopefully the American people will be able to see right through this.

So exactly what are we going to be doing for the Syrian rebels?  Well, we will definitely be arming them and training them.  And it is probably reasonable to assume that there will be American "advisers" on the ground inside Syria helping to organize the Syrian resistance.  In fact, according to Debka, a large U.S. Marine force has already been deployed to the Jordanian border with Syria.

In addition, according to the Wall Street Journal, U.S. aircraft may be involved in enforcing a no-fly zone inside Syria...

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.


Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.


To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

No matter how you slice it, the United States is now in a state of war with Syria.  The only question is how "involved" we are going to get.

And several prominent Republicans are already rushing forward to applaud Barack Obama on this latest move.  The following comes from a CBS News report...

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who met with the rebels last month and has been a vocal critic of the president's Syria policy said in a joint statement with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: "We appreciate the President's finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President's red line has been crossed. U.S. credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions."

But you know what?  Many of these Syrian rebels have actually pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The whole point of the "war on terror" was to supposedly fight al-Qaeda, but now the U.S. military is allied with them.

Why in the world would we want to help the people who are supposed to be our greatest global enemy?...

A Syrian rebel group's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda's replacement for Osama bin Laden suggests that the terrorist group's influence is not waning and that it may take a greater role in the Western-backed fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.


The pledge of allegiance by Syrian Jabhat al Nusra Front chief Abou Mohamad al-Joulani to al-Qaeda leader Sheik Ayman al-Zawahri was coupled with an announcement by the al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq, that it would work with al Nusra as well.


Lebanese Sheik Omar Bakri, a Salafist who says states must be governed by Muslim religious law, says al-Qaeda has assisted al Nusra for some time.


"They provided them early on with technical, military and financial support , especially when it came to setting up networks of foreign jihadis who were brought into Syria," Bakri says. "There will certainly be greater coordination between the two groups."

This group of jihadists has been responsible for car and suicide bombings all over Syria, and they are the ones that have been doing the heaviest fighting on the front lines...

When the group Jabhat al Nusra first claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries claimed that the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad and to hide the regime’s own brutal tactics.


Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.


Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.


The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaida in Iraq – an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.

These are no "freedom fighters".  In fact, if these guys take over they will be much worse than Assad.  These "rebels" recently massacred an entire villages of Christians, and just two days ago they slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed...

The rebels, according to ABC News’ reconstruction of the Syrian groups’ reports, appear to have whipped Qatta. When they brought him back to where they’d taken him, his head was wrapped by a shirt.


The rebels waited for a crowd to gather; Qatta’s parents were among them. Speaking in classical Arabic, they announced that Qatta had committed blasphemy and that anyone else who dared insult the Prophet Mohammed would share his fate. Then, the shirt still wrapped around the boy’s head, the rebels shot him in the mouth and neck.

Is this really who the U.S. government wants to be allies with?

Are we that stupid?

And guess what?  According to the Los Angeles Times, the Obama administration is considering plans to bring all of the poor "refugees" that are allied with these "rebels" to the United States...

Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns.


A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

But now we are committed to this conflict thanks to Obama.

There will be no backing down until Assad is gone.

Of course this could create a huge regional war in the Middle East or even eventually lead to World War III, but Obama doesn't seem to care.

For now, Obama is saving his own skin, and that is the most important thing to him.


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Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:15 | 3660227 Ropingdown
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+1 for ominousness.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:48 | 3660181 Steel Magnolia
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In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - FDR

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:46 | 3660346 MeBizarro
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Yeah right because humans are so omnipotent that we can easily control whatever we need to or there are societies are so simple and straightforward that future outcomes can easily be predicted by the most crude prediction systems. 


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:32 | 3660420 ebworthen
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FDR was an asshole who put the country further in the hole, but you are correct.


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 13:02 | 3660970 Professorlocknload
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And "Presidents are selected, not elected."  FDR 

Selected to expedite the will of the selectors. PLL

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:52 | 3660188 therover
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Long Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Harris Corporation, PM's.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:55 | 3660192 Colonel Klink
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You forgot Haliburton, and Xe or whatever the current name of the mercenaries is!!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:06 | 3660584 NoClueSneaker
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Even better - Barry gave Blackwater contracts to his Chicago Mechanics:

Tripple Canopy long .....

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:58 | 3660199 nathan1234
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Al Obama is meant to take the flak while the real powers decide what to do.

Al Obama will be gone shortly


Al Biden will be doing their Bidding

All puppets and poodles who lost their morals. ethics and sold their souls a long time ago.

The world is bankrupt. Our leadership even more so. Crooks rule the world. It's time to set that right.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:13 | 3660224 Ropingdown
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Our leadership isn't bankrupt.  They're rich as hell, for the most part.  The world has always been ruled by gangsters.  What on earth do you think Alexander the Great was great at?  Food Quality Regulation?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:58 | 3660292 nathan1234
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I meant banrupt of ethics, honesty, integrity.

Like you say crooks are around all the time. But not at the expense of the people.

These crooks are the biggest of all time.

Their globalisation of the dollar ( printed up at their will and pleasure) , the purchase of other heads of states and governments, if not the elimination of such states who do not kow tow, has been their agenda.

It's upto the citizens of each country to prevent Alexanders from cropping up.

No more globalisation.


Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:59 | 3660200 Yen Cross
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  The "putrid stench", of the press is on "full stink" even before the first day of Summer [ 6-21-2013].

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:08 | 3660211 tlnzz
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I predict that as one side defeats the other, the guns will be turned on any American solders they can get in there sights.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:30 | 3660419 ebworthen
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"their" sights, as in "heir" not "over there or here"; but I thumbsed you up because you are correct.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:20 | 3660212 notadouche
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If anyone bothered to ask this question with a straight face they would be sporting a giant kool aid mustache.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:09 | 3660215 DrData02
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Well, some of these rebels are cannibals too.  Good to see Graham and McCain behind that.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:15 | 3660228 WTFUD
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Obama the ultimate politician is shaking hands on a deal with McCainbo and the lobby of bankers & saudi & israel as a trade off for the heat up his ass!
In his fractured mind the drones are silent witnesses.

Cost/benefit analysis and D. RodYourAxil says damage limitation ( fair trade ).

All end in tears as the bankstas want to collect on the surplus stockpile of wmd's before the SHTF.

Goodbye Joe we gotta go meomyo,sonofagun. . .

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:21 | 3660244 Steel Magnolia
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Will have big fun on the bayou!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:23 | 3660247 Professorlocknload
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" Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals? "


Is a pigs ass pork?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:26 | 3660251 monopoly
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Do you guys really thing the populace will stand for another war?  85% say NO more wars. I know they are just sheeples but if we start another one, Obama will leave office with the worst rating ever. Ya know, I think anyone who wants to be President is missing  a gene or two or has their DNA reversed.  The job sucks. No one likes you, you get nothing done, half the people will hate you and you can barely take a piss without someone watching you. You cannot ever get a hamburger with your wife, go to a movie down the street or take a quiet walk. Sure you have the crown, ha, a crown of thorns. Not what it is cracked up to be. 

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:37 | 3660266 dognamedabu
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The upside is he gets paid no matter what, lifetime pension, really knows whats happening down at area 51.. plus get free access to wifes email. Im sure there are worst jobs

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:14 | 3660435 Spanky
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"[I]f we start another [war], Obama will leave office with the worst rating ever." -- monopoly


Oh no! Say it ain't so! The horror! The horror! Shrub was more popular than I!

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:28 | 3660255 q99x2
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What has happened every other time a recent standing president has tried something like this?

Answer other elites have taken the president down and impeached that president.

Same thing is happening now. We may get to see a few senators ousted as well this time  round.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:38 | 3660268 Who Laughed
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Our friends from the National Socialist Party had invaluable skills in coercion which were useful in the taming of those latin americans after WW2

Consideration of the socially untamed and economically fragile environment back home would warrant the import of some well-trained refugees

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:31 | 3660324 TheMerryPrankster
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The CIA overthrew most of the democratically elected regimes in south america, so the south american nazis had help from the american nazis.

Teamwork. fuckin the whole world to make a buck everyday, that's the CIA way. Bankers with guns and the power to hide everything they do behind walls of classification. There is no crime if its classified.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 21:52 | 3661785 Spanky
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Do you still practice your mischievous ways?

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:42 | 3660270 el Gallinazo
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Have to disagree with you on your primary point, Michael.  Obama is not starting this war out of political expediency.  He is just following orders.  Afganistan>Iraq>Pakiststan>Libya>Syria>Iran was planned decades in advance.  And yes, they do wish to start WW III.  Also planned many decades in advance.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:54 | 3660283 Arkadaba
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Wesley Clark said it - I forget the order but something like Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and a few others.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:45 | 3660273 stinkhammer
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Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:49 | 3660278 the grateful un...
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i still have my Impeach Obama bumper stickers from his 2008 campaign, bet they're worth a little bit now.

Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:56 | 3660287 Diogenes
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Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?


Of course not. His criminal friends are going to make a fuckload of money off it too.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:00 | 3660295 Mr. Hudson
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Does anybody here think we will end up at war with Russia? I read an article where the head General of the Russian Army said if America ended up in a war with Russia, nuclear bombs would be going off within 30 minutes from the beginning of the first battle. He said neither side trusts the other to not use nukes, and he who strikes first has the edge.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:35 | 3660325 samsara
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No, hadn't heard that. I hope, pray it doesn't. We go to war, Over a piece of land, just so that the pipeline from Qatar to Europe happens and saves europe from energy blackmail from Russia.

A consideration, the "Snowden files" via today's Guardianbelow) that the DOD says by 2015 urban unrest might have to be put down / controlled because of declining petroleum production(ie Peak Oil) which will start to really have an effect on availability / price.

So, maybe the west thinks that they only have a year or two to secure as many sources as possible. Might be a showdown. As Kunstler once said a couple of years ago, paraphrasing ' we'll see many glasses on the table get spilled as people fight to grab for the last few left"

Pentagon bracing for public dissent over climate and energy shocks

The study also warned of a possible shortfall in global oil output by 2015:

"A severe energy crunch is inevitable without a massive expansion of production and refining capacity. While it is difficult to predict precisely what economic, political, and strategic effects such a shortfall might produce, it surely would reduce the prospects for growth in both the developing and developed worlds. Such an economic slowdown would exacerbate other unresolved tensions."

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:38 | 3660328 yatikto
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who knows.  Obama is still dragging his feet on this, so doubt it.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:55 | 3660357 MeBizarro
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Either side would know if there were including ballistic missiles with more than a 30-minute notice and respond in kind after the first impact.  First-strike advantage means nothing to either country either given the amount of nukes they have and the ability to still deliever via 3 methods - long-range bombers, nuclear subs, and icbms with both sides have mobile icbm capability in their country.  Almost nothing has changed since the formal end of the Cold War in '91 except the amount of active-service nukes has declined notably.  Each side though still spends a huge annual sum (nuclear missiles and rockets have always received high levels of funding in Russia) and maintains an arsenal capable of destroying their rival through second and third-strike capability.

Where do you even get this nonsense? 

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 06:50 | 3662230 Spanky
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"Either side would know if there were [incoming] ballistic missiles with more than a 30-minute notice and respond in kind after the first impact." -- MeBizarro

Nope. Launch on warning confirmation. Esp. if conventional forces are already decisively engaged in hostilities. Land-based missiles will launch first in a "use it or lose it" decision on that confirmation. A/C will launch and (most) hold. Boats will alert and, depending on the tactical situation and orders, either salvo the entire payload (high probability of detection and counter-measures) or attack limited, specific targets then retire to await further orders.


"First-strike advantage means nothing to either country either given the amount of nukes they have and the ability to still deliver via 3 methods - long-range bombers, nuclear subs, and icbms with both sides have mobile icbm capability..." -- MeBizarro

Bullshit. First strike is everything in a scenario like this... Stealth, accuracy and timing are the key -- and we have it. Some units would survive, but no one will take that chance on the incoming side -- use it or lose it. Launch on confirmation. Early and often. Game theory prevails.

Got the current numbers for active Russian FBMs? That's what we're scared of. Just like they worry about our Tridents. If we've got their FBMs located, all of them, a first strike becomes very attractive. Bring our boomers in close (reduces flight and warning time), sic SSNs on the Russian FBMs and capital ships, then launch Tridents at their missiles, airfields and naval bases. Reduces to 8-12 minutes warning.

How long does it take to get a squadron airborne? Or a missile prepped, launched and clear? How quickly can a naval asset tied to the pier respond? Objects in the world can be reduce to two classes: Submarines and targets.


"Almost nothing has changed since the formal end of the Cold War in '91 except the amount of active-service nukes has declined notably." -- MeBizarro  

Much changed. Compare with below. You're simply trying to have your cake, and eat it too.

"Each side... maintains an arsenal capable of destroying their rival through second and third-strike capability." -- MeBizarro

Russian second and third strike capability sharply and notably decreased after '91. Even their first strike capability has seriously eroded. Have you seen photos of their sub pens? How well maintained are those boats, missiles and A/C? We bought the damned things on clearance to keep them out of the neighbors' hands. Remember when they couldn't even pay the troops?

Will some slip through a first strike? Of course. Acceptable risk. Acceptable losses. Got bunker?


These questions aren't moot in present circumstances. Problem is, if the bastards think they can get away with it (i.e.: survive and get something out of it), or if they paint themselves into a corner, it could happen. Open hostilities between us increases these possibilities dramatically, as the general confirms. 

Our bastards are power-crazed. I've seen it, hiding in plain sight. They even have a cute alphabet name for this version of it: MAD. Already costs us trillion$. Could cost you everything, in an instant. Never forget why they developed the neutron bomb... Or that evangelical fundamentalism exists in the upper ranks.


"Where do you even get this nonsense?" -- MeBizarro

It wasn't just a job; it was an adventure. Awake since my twenties.


"Well boys, I guess this it. Nuclur combat, toe to toe with the Russkis..."

God bless you Slim, wherever you may be... You too Molly.


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:08 | 3660302 Joe A
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Just like Bill Clinton that bombed Serbia to bits when he was caught with his cigar in Monica Lewinsky.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 18:20 | 3660485 news printer
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Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:10 | 3660304 daedon
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"this conflict is not going to end until Assad has been ousted" ? 

Gee let's see now, Saddam Hussein was (murdered) ousted, Muammar al-Gaddafi was (murdered) ousted, the Taliban were ousted, nope, don't think it will end once Assad is (murdered) ousted either.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:22 | 3660313 Hail Spode
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Not exactly.   The real rulers ordered him to go to war and he has been reluctant.  So they turn up the heat.   One scandal after another gets revealed then talked about.  If he wants to make it all go away, he needs to follow orders and get the war going.    He is finally caving to that offer.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:31 | 3660323 yatikto
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exactly, these scandals are to raise pressure on Obama. Its not to say that they are fake, but that they have been blown to a huge degree.  Nevertheless Obama is a coward and his decision is indefensible.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:20 | 3660381 Mark Urbo
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BS !


Obama/Jarrett are going into full on diversion because their ass is exposed...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:25 | 3660317 TheMerryPrankster
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Obama is a Nobel Peace prize winner and is running the most transparent administration in history. He loves peace and has nothing to hide. Syria must be starting a war with us.

Obama is too busy golfing and killing people with drones, it must be Biden's war.

you can't make this shit up. Welcome to this week's episode of "That's my Bama" with special guest star Joe Biden filmed on location In Africa. See Bama try to find his original birth certificate and watch as Jumpin joe uses it to write a grocery list on and send it out with the maid for a shopping trip. Hilarity ensues as Obama tries to get it back before someone see the country of birth.

The action packed triple drone sequence is hilarious, when Bama, bombs  2 weddings and a funeral and accidentally starts a war with S.Africa, China and Antartica.

Brought to you by SuperSnooper, the new water gun that steals all your secrets and leaves your wallet drained, also By verizon "We can hear YOU now!!!" and the TSA/NSA "keeping you safe through humiliaTion and wiping our ass on your constitutional rights, thanks for your tax dollars paying for our bullets and banquets"

That's my Bama is copyright fuckeup Productions and Upyours Broadcasting. Any relation to actual persons living or dead is justification to increase your meds and turn yourself into your nearest homeland security FEMA office for re-education.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:40 | 3660334 Bunga Bunga
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bbbbut if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:57 | 3660398 Steel Magnolia
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Is Hawaii, Kenya a village in the Northern or Southerb part of Kenya? Who in the hell knew?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:44 | 3660339 steelrules
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"Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?"

No, Obama and insane Mccain are just doing what their Israeli banker masters tell them to do, and Americans die.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:17 | 3660378 Mark Urbo
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BS !


When all else fails to distract from the ever growing abuse of power scandals...

..start a war.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:28 | 3660602 machineh
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New military oath for U.S. soldiers going to the Syrian front:

'Prime Minister Netanyahu, we who are about to die salute you!'

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 00:59 | 3660356 samsara
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The fact that this article title exists might mean something.  Right now there is open debate happening in a lot of households and a lack of trust of anything Gov.  The emotional tide has turned on that one.  

Now what if the recent scandals were "seeded out to the public"  on purpose to create this doubt.

What if the reason the DHS millions of rounds,  and the militarization of the police force which caused many to ask "What are they getting ready for?"    was a possible backlash for a war?

What if what they were getting ready for was the backlash civil disturbances to Obama getting ready for war.

Maybe a certain faction thought that it would be overreach with serious consequences and slipped the stuff out to cause a backlash to  counter US/Israel plans of Syria, Iran, (and the previous 4 or 5)?


See my other post down below how this ties in with Syria, pipelines etc.


Never mind that's crazy talk,  I was just kidding.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:33 | 3660456 bunnyswanson
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DHS is getting ready for Eminent domain to be declared which probably will occur when foodstamps and govt subsidies are faced with cuts (austerity).  The chaos will provide ample cover.  Whole communities will be yellow ribboned and returning to your now burnt to teh ground home will not be an option (blighted land).

Just by turning off the water, the power and the citiy folks will go calmly to the new camp grounds where they will be processed and when that data will come in handy. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:00 | 3660360 erkme73
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Our government tells us to be worried about terrorists wanting to kill us for our freedom (not the drone strikes and other medling we do).  The NSA spies on us to "protect" us.  They claim terrorists will sneak in and blow us up.  And now, our government wants to exile who knows how many additional war-torn, angry muslims, relocating them WITHIN OUR BORDERS?  

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:12 | 3660373 the 300000000th...
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No he is not starting the war with Syria, he is actually late to the war. Quatar was first, its about the pipeline. The Nebucco and the SouthStream pipelines. Its about who can blase a trail thru Syria to the Sea. Will it be Russia or the West?? THIS is what "Syria" is all about right now.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:20 | 3660380 MeBizarro
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Syria is full of all kinds of bad to horrible choices for the US.  Basically either:


1. Dramatic escalation immediately and supply all kinds of dangerous weapons to the Sunni fanatics including anti-air hand held missiles and order in a NATO no-fly zone which risks Western aircraft being shot down by Russian supplied (and very quite possibly serviced and supervised) SAMs.  Try to keep the rebels in the game and a possible brokered deal in place.

2. Take the wishy-washy approach and only continue to supply the rebels with small arms and low-level grade munitions just enought to try to hopefully keep the rebels in place, keep the conflict going , and negiotiate some kind of deal.

3. Take the real politik approach like a Kissinger/Nixon would have done.  A realpolitik US administration would have started escalating the conflict a year ago and arming the rebels with more anti-armor weaponry and as the Russians shipped in more Hinds and assault aircraft the US would have responded in kind by arming the rebels with anti-air weaponry to turn the Russian helicopters into flying coffins and prevented aircraft from engaging in low-altitude close ground support missions.  Bleed both sides outs and once they get exhausted on the battlefield negotiate at the peace table form a position of strength and hopefully put in a new Syrian administrative that isn't bat-shit crazy although you deal with that problem once Assad is gone, Russian's last ally in the region is knocked out of the box, etc.  The new Syrian administration creates a hole new set of problems & challenges but you deal with that just like you do with any new problem that inevitably arises.   

4. Take a fairly strict isolationist approach and let the Syrian rebels get slaughtered because the Turkish/Gulf States funding and supplies are no match for experienced Hezbollah ground fighters en mass or the more sophisicated Russian weaponry and advisers who are in place.  Status quo the Middle East remains althought it strengthens the Iranian position considerably.

Obama chosen 2 and is moving to 1 rapidly.  I would have chosen 3.  World is a nasty, harsh f@cking place and the reality is that the US was going to be involved in their one way or the other.  US would have been better off match the Russian/Iranian escalations 'tic-for-tac' without direct U.S. military intervention.   It would have worked a year ago.  Too late now. 

That is the thing with Obama.  He's a mealy-mouthed, wishy-washy guy who tries to go for the middle ground and stake some compromise and often ends up in a much worse place and at worst an incomptent fool. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:23 | 3660384 dognamedabu
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See people like you scare me. You have it all planned out. You are completely sure how it is.. And throw around bombs like candy. Alpha dog. Dreams of ruling others.. It might work with chimps but your kind is rapidly gaining a very bad vibe.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:07 | 3660635 MeBizarro
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I'd like a world where there was no conflict and would much prefer a US that had a much smaller military footprint globally.  I can only imagine what humanity could accomplish if it directed the resources it spends on war to other more productive and beneficial purposes.   

I'm fully aware too that the US military is no 'force for good' or even the US in general.   It is a bunch of powers who have various self-interest.   Unfortunately, that isn't the way the world functions and history shows that time and time again. 

Reality of the situation in Syria though is that there are two sides fighting one another that are committing atrocities including against civilians and have viewpoints that are very much opposite to what most Americans would prefer.  There is no 'Good' vs 'Evil' here as in most cases.  Just different factions fighting for power.  As usual, the losers are the civilians caught in between. 

Like in Vietnam when my uncle got there and realized that the Vietcong/N. Vietnamese were no saints nor loved by the people in the S. Vietnamese countryside but at the same time they hated the Americans/crony S. Vietnamese forces nearly as much.  Both sides routinely slaughtered civilians and imposed draconian solutions on them.  The North Vietnamese/Vietcong imposed mandatory conscription on all males over 18 through 40s, demanded that villagers store weapons/treat the wounded, and imposed large taxes in the form of mandatory taxes often in the form of food stuffs.   The Americans in order to 'protect' the S. Vietnamese villagers would practice 'sweep and destory' missions where they would come unannounced into S. Vietnamese villages ransaking them & running roughshod and at worst burning the village down while forcing the villagers to relocate to a protected American safe zone. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:25 | 3660383 22winmag
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I brought this up over 24 hours ago.


This smells shitty... just like Clinton bombing our former ally in WWII, the Nazi-resisting Christian Serbs... at the height of Monicagate.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:37 | 3660389 amanfromMars
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Uncle Sam has other more pressing matters to attend to and sequester, if it wants to survive as a leading nation of the future, for he presently has Command and Control of nothing worthwhile and creative  .........  #mce_temp_url#

But he can purchase outside leverage which enables supply of provisions which be badly needed and greatly missed whenever in-house, home spun solutions are proving so destructively costly and exorbitantly expensive ...... and wastefully toxic, although that does sort of depend upon the current levels and range of intelligence in chiefs who be thinking themselves responsible for the state of the nation and its continuing safe security and who can presumably act with impunity and immunity in the exercise of higher office, but who would appear by all modern active media accounts to have thoroughly lost the initiative and key codes which permit universally approved action with mighty global support/encouragement/mutually beneficial positive reinforcement from all major parties and smarter alternative solution factions/revolutionary elements/Global Operating Devices.

Or, if you want just more of the same, do nothing different and creative, and watch as everything collapses and markets turn to pixie dust all around y'all as abused and disadvantaged  customer bases disappear and flock to CHAOS Leaders in the Virtual Reality Sector with Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems in Live Operational Virtual Environments Fields/Zeroday Vulnerability Exploit Theatres.

The right choice to make there, is surely a no-brainer, and would have one wondering on why it wasn't taken whenever freely offered, with the correct answer being a lack of intelligence leadership in-house USA? 




Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:02 | 3660578 hootowl
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You submit verbose gibberish.  Did you lose control of your fingers?



Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:44 | 3660393 Bloodstock
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What's the old saying, "You can run but you sure can't hide." This dope is too deep in scandals, gonna catch up with him and guesses are that there will be more. Liars get caught eventually and the gig is just about up. People are sick and tired,,,

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 01:45 | 3660394 Escapeclaws
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Interesting that Webster Tarpley has the reverse of this as the real scenario. The scandals are to force Obama, who has hitherto resisted an attack on Syria, which he sees as bad for his popularity and historical legacy, having previously resisted for electoral reasons given that the American people are sick of funnelling money to the warmonger bankster and MIC class. However, if Obama continues to drag his heels these scandals will force him from office to be replaced with Petraeus, war with, Russia, China, Iran, and savage austerity, which the libertarians will gleefully welcome. Incidentally, Tarpley makes the case that von Hayek and von Mises were David Rockefeller hires. Throw in the CIA and you get the witches' brew of libertarianism. Check out to at least consider a possible counter argument to

Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:36 | 3660559 SmallerGovNow2
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which the libertarians will gleefully welcome.  WTF are you talking about?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:01 | 3660402 GoldIsMoney
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What is an old saying: Once is an accident, twice coincidence, trice it's enemy action. Who remembers the arguments for the war against Hussein, and then the fight against terrorism and now? Obams really is one of the worst presidents the US ever had (up till now)

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:03 | 3660405 headless blogger
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I would think it was more likely the opposite. All the scandals are being exposed to get Obama to bomb Syria back into the Stone Age. I don't care for Obama, but he does seem to be resisting the loud screams coming from the Jewish right and Christian right to bomb Iran and, now, Syria.

Look at ALL the stuff that has happened in the last couple of months: Boston Terror attack by the FBI, Texas Fertilizer plant explosion around the same time, the RE-exposure of the NSA spying scandal, another explosion, this time in a chemical plant in Louisianna.

I'm going to make a bet that all these scandals suddenly go quiet once they start the bombing of Syria or whatever they are pushing Obama to do. It must be something pretty bad for Obama to keep resisting the blackmales.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:25 | 3660553 therearetoomany...
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"headless" - sounds about right from this comment

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:53 | 3660570 andrewp111
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The IRS scandal isn't going away. Investigations take time, so check back a year from now. The other "scandals" don't matter.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:22 | 3660417 dognamedabu
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Please beat me said the masochist.. No said the sadist.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:25 | 3660418 ebworthen
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Q:  "Guest Post: Is Obama Starting A War With Syria Just A Distraction From All The Scandals?"

A:  YES.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:36 | 3660423 PubliusTacitus
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Obama is starting a fake war because he is too stupid to actually attempt to wake up and realize the war is all around him.


This will become apparent in the near future.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:46 | 3660427 dognamedabu
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Ill accuse these criminals of alot but being stupid isn't it. These guys are super brillant. Come on.. Get elected fooling the masses.. That takes smarts. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:36 | 3660659 PubliusTacitus
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Not even close.


You think hiring Jay Carney is “brilliant?”


You think Susan Rice is “brilliant?” I’m pretty sure Chris Stevens disagrees.


These assholes are 1/3 average intellect AT BEST, and we are only held at bay from storming the castle walls by the threat of their welfare army and Janet Napolitano’s Homeland Schutzstaffel.


Obama is a mongoloid robot who loses programming regularly, and when he does, you see a simpleton child.


Brilliant my ass.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 02:41 | 3660426 lolmao500
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Hell even war criminal and treasonous evil mastermind Zbigniew Brzezinski doesn't think it's a good idea...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:22 | 3660481 news printer
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this is a very good analysis by Brzezinski

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:29 | 3660603 machineh
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He forgot one thing:


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:51 | 3660442 popgoesthewiesel
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Was this written by an Undergrad Poly Sci major who just caught on to how the world works?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:52 | 3660443 Fix It Again Timmy
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Ugga bugga byda boo.  Meyiopw sdmtyopwe!  Cuywertmty klqwvfiusd.  Poefytwezsd bntyopswe!

Hey NSA chew on this one - it's very dangerous!!!!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 03:54 | 3660444 q99x2
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And to add insult to injury we have Drudge reporting "It Begins" with the second mutant son of a family of psychopaths, Jeb Bush, about to run against the Murderer of Benghazi, Hillary Clinton, in what is to become the next mockery of democracy Bilderberger's presidential election charade. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:17 | 3660450 NuYawkFrankie
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Obama is a Warmonger.
The USSA is a Rogue State.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:18 | 3660451 kurt
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What about Russian air support for its naval base in Syria? Is that gonna be a "no fly" also? Seems safe to me. Please don't research the first use of a nuclear weapon in modern history by our ally and how it might relate to the renewed support of Syria by Russia, missles etc.. I'd say "audacity" applys here.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:23 | 3660454 jack stephan
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I have one of your wives coming over for a naked pool party too, geez you guys make it so easy to not care about her cheating ass in my pool with her naked best friend. Slow pokes. Record that too, analog it's better for my ears. Fuck with that if your not believing me. Thanks you fucking toads.

And as always enjoy what small time you have left, bitchezzz

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:36 | 3660463 Jabotinsky_USA
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One of the best articles on ZeroHedge, ever.  Unlike Ron Paul and many of his followers the author speaks about jihadists waging war on infidels.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:44 | 3660466 justsayin2u
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Obama lied kids died. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 04:46 | 3660468 bunnyswanson
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General Wesley Clark

Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Sudan, Iran, Libya.

7 counties in 5 years.  Oil barons have bills to pay too.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:12 | 3660478 nicxios
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Bill Clinton did the same shit. Politicians, a kinder name for murderers and thieves.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:21 | 3660480 Apostate2
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Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:39 | 3660494 Troy Ounce
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Nobel Peace Prize Whiner Obama conveniently forgot the The Powell Doctrine which states that a list of questions all have to be answered affirmatively before military action is taken by the United States:

  1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
  2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
  3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
  4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
  5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
  6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
  7. Is the action supported by the American people?
  8. Do we have genuine broad international support?


This moron is going to lead the world into war.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:21 | 3660513 Racer
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All over ridden by:


9. Does this get my arse out of the sh!t?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:28 | 3660520 dcohen
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All that does not matter if Netanayahu says it doesn't matter.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:26 | 3660554 SmallerGovNow2
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Answers to questions one through eight, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:40 | 3660496 Devotional
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The American people are being taken for a ride by their government.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:17 | 3660592 lakecity55
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Yes, to the Pine Barrows of NJ.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:43 | 3660667 Ckierst1
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That would be "Pine Barrens", but your sentiment is on target!

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:36 | 3660712 machineh
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... where Chris Christie will sit on your face and fart, as he gropes Obama's nutsack.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 05:48 | 3660498 negative rates
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I think larry summers is about to have a cow at this point.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:15 | 3660507 smacker
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"...just two days ago they slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed..."

These Al Qaeda affiliated rebels - nothing less than cowardly vermin - are the people that Obama is preparing to arm and support to distract attention away from his own malfeasance and criminality.

Obama should be sent to Abu Graib.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:20 | 3660644 NoClueSneaker
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Me thinks Illinois State Pen has a better tradition in torture - some black activist from the seventies serve their 4th Gitmo term, but much more perverse. Let's let Barry organise some comunnity in there ....

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 06:18 | 3660510 Racer
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"Look over there"

A classic

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:16 | 3660518 dcohen
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This article got it a bit backwards though, the heat started just to push Obama into a war or into Syria in some shape or form. He really never had any option but to let his head roll, a coward like Obama would never sacrifice himself for the people and the constitution.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:00 | 3660537 trader1
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there is no distraction for anyone paying attention.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:22 | 3660548 SmallerGovNow2
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unfortunately there are not enough of us paying attention and that is the larger problem.  i cannot believe we are going to war with these fucks.  i have border patrol friends who are being furloughed and are being told to ration gas from their normal patrols yet we are arming these fucks while not protecting our own border.  what a cluster fuck of a nation we've become....

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:31 | 3660605 machineh
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Don't your friends care about Israel? /sarc

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:55 | 3660676 BurningBetty
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Your government doesn't give a F*** about you. That's the point. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 15:42 | 3661245 trader1
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“Wherever something is wrong, something is too big. If the stars in the sky or the atoms of uranium disintegrate in spontaneous explosion, it is not because their substance has lost its balance. It is because matter has attempted to expand beyond the impassable barriers set to every accumulation. Their mass has become too big. If the human body becomes diseased, it is, as in cancer, because a cell, or a group of cells, has begun to outgrow its allotted narrow limits. And if the body of a people becomes diseased with the fever of aggression, brutzdity, collectivism, or massive idiocy, it is not because it has fallen victim to bad leadership or mental derangement. It is because human beings, so charming as individuals or in small aggregations, have been welded into overconcentrated social units such as mobs, unions, cartels, or great powers.” 

Leopold Kohr

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 21:57 | 3661798 Spanky
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But the real trick is to get more people to pay attention and turn off the One-Eyed-God.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:15 | 3660544 shutupnsing
Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:23 | 3660551 SmallerGovNow2
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bolten is a warmongering idiot...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:28 | 3660555 shovelhead
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I say fuck em all.

Let Europe pay for their own gas and oil.


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:21 | 3660598 negative rates
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They already do, and then they send the extra gas here.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:32 | 3660556 TWSceptic
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Killing innocent people to save their own skin, yes sounds like the obummer administration.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:35 | 3660558 therearetoomany...
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I think everyone has got this wrong.

Obama is 'starting' this war because the gasoline prices are too low and he wants to ensure that they go to all new levels so we can be sure to accomplish two things:

Agenda 21

Save the planet from global warming


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:12 | 3660589 esum
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therearetoomany.......   you know that oil companies and refineries are EXPORTING GAS to circumvnet the ethanol requirement, reducing supplies and hence pushing the prices up...  also states are now thinking of "taxing" fuel efficient hybrids to recoop the loss of gas tax revenues..... the only way to save the planet from "global warming" is to extinguish the sun....which heats the oceans and generates the weather and climate globally.  UN = UNnecessary

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:31 | 3660604 SmallerGovNow2
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BINGO!!!  People are ignorant to the fact that "greenhouse" gases are good for the planet and consist 99% of that really toxic compound H2O (water) sarc/...  Also that CO2 is a necessary compound for all plant growth and it is less that 1/2 % of greenhouse gases...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:23 | 3660599 negative rates
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Don't forget about stocks going up with that, we need something positive to get us thru the week.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:38 | 3660560 rsnoble
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Be funny if Russia bitch slaps them right from the get go.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:40 | 3660561 Ain't No Sunshine
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Obama is a USEFULL IDIOT. He's a TOOL


He can't throw a baseball.

He can't shoot a basketball.

He can't golf.

He can't even speak without a teleprompter.

He has no fucking skills...None whatsoever.

There's no way in hell he has this grand plan.

And now, Syria.

Jim henson is dead...who's hand is up Obama's ass?


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:06 | 3660585 lakecity55
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Valerie Jarrett.

But, whoese hand is up her   ass?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:33 | 3660608 machineh
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Ever hear of Penny Pritzker?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:59 | 3660679 PubliusTacitus
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Larry Summers & George Soros.


The planet would be much better off without both.


And Valerie Jarrett.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:22 | 3660646 NoClueSneaker
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Robert Ruben's .

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:34 | 3660657 F. Bastiat
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For better or worse, he's a tool with power at his disposal.

So, what's the most effective way to limit the damage he's doing?

Aggressively speaking up and staying out of the way of the behemoth's trail of destruction, I suppose.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:00 | 3660681 PubliusTacitus
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There's another way.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 13:10 | 3660979 F. Bastiat
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One of the traditional African ways of overcoming serious daddy issues is to have the juvenile with daddy issues feed raw meat to a pack of lions.

While it may seem odd at first, it's well known that lions become very docile when confronted with god-like figures.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:42 | 3660562 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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50 years ago, on 22 November 1963, 'they' murdered a (great) US president > on 9 September 2001 ' they ' configured  one of histoy's most heinous acts. And that is all you need to know. Blood must be spilled in an American revolution IN America

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:46 | 3660566 Ain't No Sunshine
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Who are 'They'?


Sat, 06/15/2013 - 07:57 | 3660573 therearetoomany...
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Television's Van Patten Family

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:24 | 3660649 NoClueSneaker
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Merican fascists . Allen Dulles & Co.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:02 | 3660577 esum
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iN FACT obama IS SUCCEDING IN UNITING FRAGMENTED GROUPS THAT UP UNTIL NOW ACTED SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENTLY.... NOW THEY ARE UNITED..... GREAT JOB!! All I see obama doing in the foreign arean is furthering the Calipahte interests. I guess the king of Jordan doesn't realize he is being set up. take "insurgents" into Jordan and train them..swell... arm them.. swell and when they overthrow the Jordan regime... oooops. then israel will be our only "ally". Ally after ally has gotten the USA shaft. How would you like to be an afghani "policeman" or "army" member. I wonder if i can get life insurance on those doomed men. In iraq we had the opportuity to take ut Al Sadr and didn't. He is iran's puppet and will eventually take control over iraq.. what is left of it after the kurds ceceed. the brits did a great job in setting up future wars with their map drawing skills designed to promote tribal conflict adinfnitum. 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:32 | 3660656 F. Bastiat
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Hussein Obama is a delusional marxist.

There are also rumours floating around that he is smoking crack in the White House.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:39 | 3660721 machineh
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it's not crack, it's poppers.

Ask Barney Frank how those work.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:05 | 3660582 lakecity55
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Spilling more blood are we, you Satanic Pimp?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:12 | 3660590 falak pema
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the price for having a secret service culture that dominates political life; aka a Stasi culture.

Here is a take on this from a man who created the most prolific series of spy reality show novels; John Le Carre :

What is happening in Syria is to continue the divide and rule meme that worked in Irak for the US, by applying it to Syria : Shia/SUnni jIhad!

And Mr Morsi of Egypt says its OK! I'm with you West! 

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:26 | 3660601 SmallerGovNow2
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you must have missed the cabinet meeting where Morsi and company said that amerika and isreal were their enemies...

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:58 | 3660623 falak pema
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you seem to have missed what happened yesterday in the streets of Cairo, all whipped up by Moslem Brotherhood fire brands allied to Saudi preachers :

This is good news for Obammy and "red line breached" policy preached by US admin against Assad.

Israel takes back seat behind the new devil of Shia Islam, and its apostate allies in Syria.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:39 | 3660609 El Hosel
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" Welcome to DirtyFuckerville, have a nice Day".

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:46 | 3660618 El_Puerco
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RON PAUL!...Hey!...Where  are you?!





Sat, 06/15/2013 - 08:57 | 3660626 Sandmann
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Funny really, the Germans got put through the wringer after 1919 and again after 1946 because they allowed themselves to be dragged into wars of aggression. The US and UK do it all the time nowadays when not intercepting and monitoring their Citizens. It is all a bit 1984 with Permanent Warfare as Wikipedia puts it:


In 1984, there is a perpetual war among Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, the super-states which emerged from the atomic global war. "The book", The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism by Emmanuel Goldstein, explains that each state is so strong it cannot be defeated, even with the combined forces of two super-states—despite changing alliances. To hide such contradictions, history is re-written to explain that the (new) alliance always was so; the populaces accustomed to doublethink accept it. The war is not fought in Oceanian, Eurasian or Eastasian territory but in the arctic wastes and a disputed zone comprising the sea and land from Tangiers (northern Africa) to Darwin (Australia). At the start, Oceania and Eastasia are allies combatting Eurasia in northern Africa and the Malabar Coast.

That alliance ends and Oceania allied with Eurasia fights Eastasia, a change which occurred during the Hate Week dedicated to creating patriotic fervour for the Party's perpetual war. The public are blind to the change; in mid-sentence an orator changes the name of the enemy from "Eurasia" to "Eastasia" without pause. When the public are enraged at noticing that the wrong flags and posters are displayed they tear them down—thus the origin of the idiom "We've always been at war with Eastasia"; later the Party claims to have captured Africa.


Just strange how docile the population of the US and UK really is. Must be the fluoride in the water

or the huge consumption of sugar especially in the USA and high-fructose corn syrup that makes them mentally sluggish

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:00 | 3660629 AynRandFan
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The "war" with Syria will be over as soon as Obama and the ACLU kiss and make up.  Even the marxist dolts at DemocracyNow! can't make up their minds whether NSA spying on Americans is good or bad.  

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:05 | 3660633 AynRandFan
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Is anyone asking why Jordon, Saudi Arabi, and the other rich middle east countries can't supply the "rebels"?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:21 | 3660645 janchup
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A penetrating glimpse into the obvious.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:27 | 3660651 Quinvarius
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It is not just Obama.  The whole bunch of implicated criminals in the NSA scandal need this war.  But it won't help them.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:43 | 3660666 StarTedStackin'
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So it's not just Obowel, it's also those doing his bidding????




Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:31 | 3660652 F. Bastiat
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Each of Hussein Obama's actions, words, and motives can be traced back to one of three books:

- Rules for Radicals
- The Communist Manifesto
- Nudge

In this particular case, the tactic traces to Alinsky's rule #8 - always keep the pressure on the counter-marxist opposition.


Know Thy Enemy.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:34 | 3660658 roadhazard
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There will be no war. America is broke and with a full blown war oil would be so high as to shut down the economy completely. As if that were not enough we don't have the money to pay our "allies" to help us like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:42 | 3660665 StarTedStackin'
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Since when did being "broke" stop the demotrash from spending more $$$$$???

Sun, 06/16/2013 - 09:25 | 3662390 roadhazard
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We get our money from China. They now have there own problems and will give the US no more money. Besides They want that oil too and can't get it if Iran/Syria is blown to hell.

Right wing motherfuckers spend money just as fast, son.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:53 | 3660671 TrulyStupid
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The business of America is war... Syria is just the next economic stimulus was looking like N. Korea for a while and Iran before that, but it looks like we've settled on Syria... at least that's Israel's choice and they have sent Obama the memo.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:37 | 3660714 Ginsengbull
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We probably paid the Russians a lot for info before the duck-shoot in Iraq.


It doesn't seem like they will sell out the Syrians so cheaply.

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 09:41 | 3660664 StarTedStackin'
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Obama SAYS he's NOT a Muslim.......



So, is Obama a Sunni or a Shiite?




What HASN'T the Obowel Movement lied about?

Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:17 | 3660693 marcusfenix
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obama has no religion, no faith he has sold his soul to get to where is is today.

the only thing he worships is power and the human masters he serves that grant him the accumulation of more of it. though it wouldn't surprise me to find out he is a satanist, the history of the elites and their wannabes is replete with occult devil worship.

in any case DC is corrupt and rotten to the core, filled with greedy and insane control freak delusional hate filled power mongers who probably can't stand to look at themselves in the mirror but are far to deep to stop now. if obama supports one side of the muslim community over the other it's only because he see's them as tools to be used to achieve his masters ends but make no mistake he will discard them just as quickly as he picked them up.

to these people religion is just another tool used to divide and conquer the masses, do not believe for a moment they will suffer any god before themselves.  


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