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Thousands Of Firms Trade Confidential Data With The US Government In Exchange For Classified Intelligence
The rabbit hole just got deeper. A whole lot deeper.
On Sunday we predicated that "there's one reason why the administration, James Clapper and the NSA should just keep their mouths shut as the PRISM-gate fallout escalates: with every incremental attempt to refute some previously unknown facet of the US Big Brother state, a new piece of previously unleaked information from the same intelligence organization now scrambling for damage control, emerges and exposes the brand new narrative as yet another lie, forcing even more lies, more retribution against sources, more journalist persecution and so on."
And like a hole that just gets deeper the more you dug and exposes ever more dirt, tonight's installment revealing one more facet of the conversion of a once great republic into a great fascist, "big brother" state, comes from Bloomberg which reports that "thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies, providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence, four people familiar with the process said."
The companies extend far wider than the legacy telcos, such as Verizon, that launched the entire NSA-spying scandal a week ago: "Makers of hardware and software, banks, Internet security providers, satellite telecommunications companies and many other companies also participate in the government programs. In some cases, the information gathered may be used not just to defend the nation but to help infiltrate computers of its adversaries."
Many of these same Internet and telecommunications companies voluntarily provide U.S. intelligence organizations with additional data, such as equipment specifications, that don’t involve private communications of their customers, the four people said.
And since what goes on behind the scenes is confidential, literally anything goes: "Along with the NSA, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and branches of the U.S. military have agreements with such companies to gather data that might seem innocuous but could be highly useful in the hands of U.S. intelligence or cyber warfare units, according to the people, who have either worked for the government or are in companies that have these accords."
Some of the back and forth is innocuous, such as Microsoft revealing ahead of time the nature of its exposed bugs (ostensibly providing the government with a back door into any system using a Microsoft OS, but since it's don't ask, dont' tell, nobody really knows). However the bulk of the interaction is steeped in secrecy: "Most of the arrangements are so sensitive that only a handful of people in a company know of them, and they are sometimes brokered directly between chief executive officers and the heads of the U.S.’s major spy agencies, the people familiar with those programs said."
More on this "company within a company":
Typically, a key executive at a company and a small number of technical people cooperate with different agencies and sometimes multiple units within an agency, according to the four people who described the arrangements.
If necessary, a company executive, known as a “committing officer,” is given documents that guarantee immunity from civil actions resulting from the transfer of data. The companies are provided with regular updates, which may include the broad parameters of how that information is used.
Remember how they say conspiracies are impossible because too many people know about them, and the information always eventually leaks? Well not if you contain it to a handful of people in any organization, and force them to sign a bloody NDA, pledging one's first born in the case of secrecy breach.
An example of a company that is happy to "communicate" with tht the government is Intel's McAfee internet security unit, which in addition to everything is one giant backdoor entrance for the government. If need be of course:
Intel Corp. (INTC)’s McAfee unit, which makes Internet security software, regularly cooperates with the NSA, FBI and the CIA, for example, and is a valuable partner because of its broad view of malicious Internet traffic, including espionage operations by foreign powers, according to one of the four people, who is familiar with the arrangement.
Such a relationship would start with an approach to McAfee’s chief executive, who would then clear specific individuals to work with investigators or provide the requested data, the person said. The public would be surprised at how much help the government seeks, the person said.
McAfee firewalls collect information on hackers who use legitimate servers to do their work, and the company data can be used to pinpoint where attacks begin. The company also has knowledge of the architecture of information networks worldwide, which may be useful to spy agencies who tap into them, the person said.
Google, another participant in PRISM, already lied about its participation in the covert-op:
Following an attack on his company by Chinese hackers in 2010, Sergey Brin, Google’s co-founder, was provided with highly sensitive government intelligence linking the attack to a specific unit of the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military, according to one of the people, who is familiar with the government’s investigation. Brin was given a temporary classified clearance to sit in on the briefing, the person said.
According to information provided by Snowden, Google, owner of the world’s most popular search engine, had at that point been a Prism participant for more than a year.
Google CEO Larry Page said in a blog posting June 7 that he hadn’t heard of a program called Prism until after Snowden’s disclosures and that the Mountain View, California-based company didn’t allow the U.S. government direct access to its servers or some back-door to its data centers. He said Google provides user data to governments “only in accordance with the law.”
Ah yes, the law that no mere mortal can observe in action, and which has zero popular checks and balances. So what specifically does Google provide to the government? "Highly offensive information" it appears.
That metadata includes which version of the operating system, browser and Java software are being used on millions of devices around the world, information that U.S. spy agencies could use to infiltrate those computers or phones and spy on their users.
“It’s highly offensive information,” said Glenn Chisholm, the former chief information officer for Telstra Corp (TLS)., one of Australia’s largest telecommunications companies, contrasting it to defensive information used to protect computers rather than infiltrate them.
Going back to Obama's promise on live TV that nobody was listening in to any conversations, one wonders: why did the major telecom companies "ask for guarantees that they wouldn’t be held liable under U.S. wiretap laws." Because if the companies demanded a waiver, they obviously were wiretapping, i.e., eavesdropping, and doing so on US citizens, or those protected by US laws. And that's why Obama should have just kept his mouth shut, instead of having to explain what he meant and that he never said what he said.
Before they agreed to install the system on their networks, some of the five major Internet companies -- AT&T Inc. (T), Verizon Communications Inc (VZ)., Sprint Nextel Corp. (S), Level 3 Communications Inc (LVLT). and CenturyLink Inc (CTL). -- asked for guarantees that they wouldn’t be held liable under U.S. wiretap laws. Those companies that asked received a letter signed by the U.S. attorney general indicating such exposure didn’t meet the legal definition of a wiretap and granting them immunity from civil lawsuits, the person said.
Ah, the US Attorney General - because what is another Obama scandal that doesn't involve his primary henchman Eric Holder...
Mark Siegel, a spokesman for Dallas-based AT&T, the nation’s biggest
phone carrier, declined to comment. Edward McFadden, a spokesman for
New York-based Verizon, the second-largest phone company, declined to
comment. Scott Sloat, a spokesman for Overland Park, Kansas-based
Sprint, and Monica Martinez, a spokeswoman for Broomfield,
Colorado-based Level 3, didn’t immediately respond to requests for
comment.
No need to comment - it's quite clear.
The last question remains: what do companies get out of this proactive betrayal of their clients? Well, in some cases, such as those of IBM and Amazon as we described yesterday, they get lucrative government (CIA) contracts for billions of dollars. But that's just taxpayer cash. Where it gets worse is when the kickbacks are yet more secrets.
In exchange, leaders of companies are showered with attention and information by the agencies to help maintain the relationship, the person said. In other cases, companies are given quick warnings about threats that could affect their bottom line, including serious Internet attacks and who is behind them.
In other words, what is going on behind the scenes is nothing more than one vast, very selective, extremely secretive, symbiotic and perfectly "legal" giant information exchange network, which allows corporations to profit off classified government information either in kind or in cash, and which allows the government to have all the information at its disposal, collected using public and private venues, in order to protect itself, to take out those it designates as targets, or simply said - to get ever bigger.
The loser in all of this?
You.
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Short Aussie, Long Loonie
Must say as I was thinking this morning about the NSA thing and the public statements by the "elite leadership" (sarc) of these organizations that I believe in analysis that civilization has domesticated itself in such a false, but supposedly secure, safe and risk-free, milieu, that it has reached a threshhold of devolution marked by total crasse ignorance, stupidity, and paranoia.
Everything in this milieu believes that torture, murder, genocide, war, lying, theft and wealth are good and it is they who should rule over the "unwashed barbarians" that compose "we". These so-called elite are just dumb asses; stupid; moronic dolt who obviously don't know what they are saying, cannot construct a coherent statement, are totally unaware of the crasse logic that they weld into their public statements.
Those within / of this "elite" milieu have intellectually and cognitively sterilized themselves; a demographic that believes its own propaganda, lies and pure utter bullshit.
There appears to be no hope for this lot of pretenders as the plan is far beyond their competence and they probably never had a grasp on the plot anyway leaving no other option for themselves than being buried as the snake sheds its old skin and new life emergezes energized and revitalized.
OTH the runaway technology innovations and developments is totally understandable where techs, electronic enginners and IT geeks follow the interests of their minds; everything possible which is an infinite probability, is only subject to circumstances. This means that these guys obviously know that their "executive elites" are just lying "dumb-asses" with revolving-door disease and static collective consensualitis - and have a carte blanche to follow their interests in electronics, the fastest growing innotive technologies in the World EVER in written history.
The ones to guard againsts are the lying, thieving cowards who love to control, torture, murder and steal aka the fascists psychopaths /sociopaths like the "neocons" and their Troskyite cult.
Very Interesting. The World now knows just how devolved the US "leadership" has now be-come and how close the US self-destruction is by allowing these morons to speak publically; it certainly has certainly damaged (improved) the the false perception of the US "leadership". Perhaps they should all be "disappeared" or sent to Guantanamo Bay for "re-education programs and forced feeding. At least we all now know the definition of a "terrorist" now. LOL
The World laughs!
Ho hum
The Emperor has no clothes and is a drooling, belching shibboleth of filth.
And some here thinks this makes no difference. Strange.
You forgot to mention the Emperor's teeny, tiny, iddy-biddy little....
Loveless.
Michael Bloomberg is a "Traitor", a high school drop-out, and probably an agent of the Chinese!
Also, he only worked for us for three months, and, and, and I swear to god we only paid him $120 thousand a year.
And to whom does Tyler sell all the info he collects with the mandatory tracking cookies his site requires?
"Hot Asian Brides" and "Apmex".
Oh then it's okay - to me the both constitute acceptable advertising
But why would Israel want to sell a rabid anti-semite like me some bonds?
Do you think Shoah museums just pop up on their own like mushrooms?
Like Mushroom Clouds ?
tissue please for the coffee spewed on my screen
And these people want us to move to full electronic voting?????
ROFL.
Excellent point to make at this time.
We are within weeks to months--at most--of the utter violent collapse of this fucking charade! I wish I had the balls to fire the first shot that starts the extermination of the criminal class... How I wish I had the balls to be the most famous hero to ever have been...
Sorry Howard. The most famous hero to ever have been born ... already was.
They are doing it to keep you safe, you pussies!
"the conversion of a once great republic into a great fascist, "big brother" state"...got it in 14 (words).
. Knowledge is power?...My knowledge of the corruption that pervades Washington DC 'corridors' has not lent me power at all....just anger and a sense of resignation. Thank fuck for ZH....this site rekindles my "fuck those assholes' belligerence...and passion.
Question is, what do we do with our passion (not to mention knowledge)? Blow it off bitching? Or use it for something constructive? Can we ignite our passion in others?
If all we do is simply watch and bitch, the only thing separating us from muppets and sheeple is our ringside seat. Question is, why are we not in the ring?
Ah, the Panopticon.
Mike & the Mechanics - Silent Running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep7W89I_V_g
Keep watching - the descontruction is accelerating due to unforeseen truth tellers. Maybe 2 ... 3 weeks at top the system known as USA government is about to be rocked. Feel free to reference this comment in days ahead. 6/13/13
Calling ALL whistle-blowers to stand and unite- this is the time. Do it NOW!
Stop ... Stop .... I can't handle any more, I'm on Scandal Overload
And on top of this, most likely you're being overloaded by the wrong scandal.
....and leading our news in New Zealand tonight?...your prick(s) McCain and the Kenyan. God I hate your politicians. Mendaciuos, venal cunts
...(mendacious)_...I dislike bad spelling
Well, may I apologize on behalf of the dwindling aware Americans. Tonight our news casts are filled with Kardashian baby room colors and a wee but of flooding amongst more rain. You know...the important stuff.
"Its a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word." (Andrew Jackson)
I fail to grasp how an AG can grant civil immunity. It certainly nakes a mockery of equal protection of the law.
Well, for one thing - there's nothing civil about it.
Well, for other things:
There never has been equal protection ... not from the times of monarchies to now.
Another thing:
The Constitution was written by and for an elite group of colonialists who wanted complete control over the thirteen colonies, including who to levy taxes on and who should benefit, i.e. themselves, not King George.
There is NOTHING 'democratic' about the Constitution. The Founding Fathers set up a republic which was never intended to benefit "lower classes", let alone slaves and native peoples.
The Constitution was written by lawyers and/or their ilk, so what else could be expected than where we are today?
It all reminds me of the oft quoted Magna Carta. Maybe we all like to imagine that Runymede was the beginning of "equal rights", but it wasn't. The robber barons of the day coerced King John into keeping more taxes for themselves, whilst continuing to extract wealth form their subjects.
Nothing has changed for hundreds of years, e.g. through the industrial robber 'barons' of the 19th Century, to the bankster 'barons' of today.
The "We The People" of the Constitution only ever meant "we who wrote it" and that is why and how it got ammended and/or interpretted so many times by politicans and lawyers (often the same).
Continue to believe, if you like, that an elite of any era meant well for the 99%, but they never did and never will ... bar some truly cosmic shift what our species comprizes.
No wonder that, throughout history, people have craved for a "saviour" and have followed anyone seeming to offer them a better life, from religious founders of ancient times to the latest crop of charismatic leaders, e.g. from Ronnie Raygun to the Obomber, though both were/are only fronts for those who can be called "the shadow government" in Wall Street and AIPAC.
One thing you can be sure of is that the Constitution is "just a piece of paper" that has no standing in law and was never intended to by those who wrote it, if maybe not all.
Your junkers are just a buncha bitter Constitution-Clingerstm who can't let go of the mythic "Power of the Magic Parchment".
Ask anyone raised in a third-world country their opinion of the received and popular account of the American Revolution. Somehow these people are able to see what hundreds of millions of Americans are not - the American War of Independence Mythos is nothing but an exquisitely crafted lie whose purpose is to promulgate the American civic propaganda-religion and prevent any honest historical analysis of the events and people in question. It is an origin myth.
The problem is... it's just not a very good one, particularly in terms of how it contradicts all (easily enough obtained) evidence, and experience, both contemporary and historical.
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.
US news is the WORST, the most abject, puerile, neuron cotton wool pillowing, in the western hemisphere. I've said it before and I'll say it again: thank God for intelligent internet sites
unfortunately most of the info here is not on the nightly news, the sheeple are being fed anything but what matters.
Considering that the pretext for all this shit is 9/11 (though it started LONG before), a way to begin a clean-up could be by raising awareness about WTC7 especially, which no one tried to explain the collapse of because of aircraft impact, simply because no aircraft hit and of course there were no "raging fires" of jet fuel. But soon after Larry Silverstein said, "Pull it", lo and behold WTC7 collapsed into its own footprint at near free-fall acceleration.
As I commented in Ignatius post:
"Just a reminder that A&E (I am member) are mounting a global awareness campaign on Sept 1st, so how about a visit to http://www.ae911truth.org/ and giving whatever support you can people."
It is feasible that the campaign could initiate a tipping point, if a critical mass of people wake up to the fact that the 9/11 Commision did not explain anything.
Here in ZH: even GW might agree that there's a problem with the "19 box-cutter-wielding" conspiracy theory that's maintained by the PTB and their apologists.
One thing is absolutely certain: none of the purported hijackers, nor Osam bin Laden could have pulled WTC7.
Osama was as shocked as anybody: 'Holy shit, the buildings fell down!'
Like a kid who shoots a pebble at a squirrel with a slingshot, and the whole tree crashes to the ground. WTF?
If the squirrel falls on a utility transformer, catches on fire, and then ignites the tree, yes the tree can fall down.
You mean the same org that can't even accurately describe how 7WTC fell? That ignores the damage from 1WTC and the extensive, intense fires? That ignores all the evidence which shows mechanical failure?
No thanks. Controlled demolition is a canard, designed to keep us from the truth. Wake up!
Well then, what is the truth? Everything your government and MSM tell you?
BTW you are very wrong about A&E, clearly have never bothered to actually view and read the evidence ... and clearly you have no knowledge of what might be "mechanical failure".
By all means elaborate, if you have expertize with structural steel and its properties, i.e. do a better job than the 9/11 Commission.
Lastly: Please let myself and others into your secret of the "truth", if it is other than Dubya told ya.
You typically characterize it as black and white. ie; "Everything your government and MSM tell you?" Not the sign of a truth seeker. That's not an argument. That's a put down. An attempt to pigeon hole, frame the debate as believing either CD or accepting the whole "official story", and force your opponent into defending the government story. Bullshit in other words.
"Professional" architects and engineers, as I stated, can't even accurately describe how the building fell based on nothing but available video. It did not "fall straight down into it's own footprint". It fell over in two directions and split in two at the top to bottom slice on the south face. The "kink", "a classic sign of controlled demolition", is not a downward kink at all. It's the north face folding vertically. They haven't even noticed the shift to the east prior to descent. They fail to explain how the west sidewall got so perfectly imbedded into Verizon Building, a major clue in understanding how it fell. And they claim "small office fires", failing to present FDNY video and audio tape to the contrary.
I would be ashamed to belong to such an organization. I'm ashamed enough to have believed them for a time in the first place.
I don't know the truth and niether do you. What we do know as fact is the Bush Adm obstructed both commissions, particularly as it pertains to the training and financing of the operation. If you cared about finding the truth, you would demand all the redacted FBI files be opened for view, at least by a commission or grand jury, if not for the public at large.
Last time I read the A&E site they only claim that the offical story is shit. The true reason will never be known because the evidence is gone.
So if the official investigation, which btw avoided providing a reason for WTC 7 failure, could not have happened, then what?
First the explanation was that the steel melted, when proven false it was changed to the steel weakened.
Have you noticed all of the building code changes to ensure such a thing never happens again?
I don't pretend I know what happened but the official story is shit. 3 buildings the same day is a statistical near impossibility.
Flame on kool aid drinkers
Pretty sure building 7 was hit by debris from the plane that went down in PA.
To Sosoome :
Even if you are not a Structural Engineer, you are an Idiot.
Even if you are a Structural Engineer, you are an Idiot.
I am an Engineer, and watching on television at the very first instant of collapse, I immediately knew it was Impossible.
That's the best you got? Drive by name calling?
There's something about this part that appeals to me:
Mostly it delights me because, well, here we are reading about it on Zerohedge, in a story run by Bloomberg of all organizations (talk about a company that's almost certainly giving data on its clients to the government). I like irony.
If a handful of people inside a corporation—one or two execs and a handful of engineers—know a secret, they can probably keep it. When a handful each of people inside thousands of corporations know a secret, it's not going to be kept a secret. The probability that someone will break an oath or NDA may be low, but small probabilities become problematic/heroic (depending on your point of view) realities when iterated through a sufficiently large population.
Not you, ME.
Ultimately if a basic primative instincts of unconscious biological motivations are allowed to go unchecked they will devour the host and starve themselves.
Zombie Bitchez we are all doomed. Doomed.
Who is you? Is you me or you? If you is me, Then you and me is us. I am me and you is you.. Either way, I , referred to as the you is a loser. Hope that helps.
Fuck the Kleptoligarchy.
Jesus H. Christ what a tangled web of deceit, lies, and moral prostitution.
Why am I here on this rock again in this place formerly known as the U.S.A.?
Because it beats the last incarnation as an anteater?
Obama and the FED globalists prepare to harvest Al-Qaeda terrorist from Syria for re-location to the United States
Ok maybe that is stretching the truth but maybe not.
menwhile? two fucking russian clowns manage bomb Boston. After being warned by the Russians... I guess they are too busy listening to us.
maybe they did not get the email? Oh wait.
the Tylers tagged this article: FBI Google national security PrISM SPY Verizon
me think it would be appropriate to ad "fascism"
The definition of fascism comes to mind.
From the horses mouth;
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."
Benito Mussolini
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benitomuss388775.html#Fcjrepw...
Exactly (def. Fascism), Thank You
There's no evidence he ever said it. But it is a good line.
Lulz... This is insane... This is basically INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE LEGALIZED...
In other news, CNN is saying there's ALREADY US support being given to the FSA in Syria..
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/06/14/ac-syria...
CNN as always, warmongering.
Here comes Russia :
http://www.trust.org/item/20130614060135-0t5hg/?source%20=%20hpbreaking
Data on chemical arms use by Syria's Assad fabricated - Russian MPA senior pro-Kremlin Russian lawmaker said on Friday that information on the use of chemical weapons by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces was fabricated and suggested the United States would use it to justify intervention in the conflict.
Not insanity if it is premeditated.
-O does not invade Iran/Syria fast enough
-Cheese controlled media suddenly becomes investigative "news" breakers, scandal after scandal revealed, until O taps out
-Syria has crossed the line!!
-Resume with your regular programming and enjoy our economic recovery
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They lie.
They are broke.
They are desperate.
They have guns and not butter.
They have no real understanding of economics of any school.
Even Keynes would have a heart attack if he saw this shit and the results of such policy.
"They have guns and not butter."
My late father had a rant one night on that subject. It was in the late 80s, when Europe (thanks to it's Common Agricultural Policy!) had a huge butter mountain in refrigerated warehouse storage (along with milk, grain and a variety of other crops in lesser amounts). This was being reported on the TV, at the time, replete with pictures of tankerloads of milk being collected from farms and literally poured down the dairy's drain because the tax write off was more profitable than selling the surplus.
I innocently asked (I was only about 15 at the time) that since we gave millions of pounds in foreign aid to these countries, and it was widely reported that a huge amount of that money wasn't spent on the humanitarian projects it was intended for... why they didn't just give less money but replace it with all the surplus foodstuffs (there was also reportage of one of the frequent - and utterly avoidable - drought-led famines in Africa), instead of destroying it. Or give the food to the poor? Thatcherite Britain > 3 million plus were unemployed, at one point.
Dad literally blew his top - probably the first time I heard him use 'fuck' in a conversation. I'd heard him say it when he'd hit his thumb, or something, but the old guy was pretty mild-mannered most of the time.
We gave money, not food, he said, because the idea of giving foreign aid brought manifold benefits - if you were a rich prick positioned to exploit them!.
Firstly, you confiscate the money from the taxpayers and give it to, say, Angola. Angola, at the time, seemed to be constantly at war with everybody around them. And often with themselves. So they spent most of the cash on buying weapons, often from Britain*. So you've taken the taxpayers' money, given it to someone who you know will buy arms with it, made a fat profit selling the arms and provided significant employment in your weapons factories - which gives a nice social bonus in reducing unemployment, meaning Mr. Gunrunner has a quieter, better ordered country to live in.
Also, in return for getting the foreign aid money, in the first place, Les Republiques De Banana are usually very forthcoming with offers of mineral exploration rights and the like, which your average 'developed' country's natural resource companies seize with both hands and proceed to rape the client's land until it's barren of anything but rocks and sand. More money to feed the maw of the beast!
And you kill off some fuzzy-wuzzies, who then won't breed more. And create some refugees, who you can import to your own country, to drive down wages at your armament factories AND give your indigenous tax-slaves someone to fight, come the day of the Revolution. Wouldn't want them figuring shit out and hanging the rich, now, would we!
*It doesn't actually matter if the country giving foreign aid buys your weapons output or not; it nets out, globally. Britain might gave aid to Ghana, say, who buy largely from Holland. But Germany gives aid to Niger, who buy from the USA. And the US gives aid to Nigeria, who buy British. Leaving Venezuela, who got aid from Holland, to buy from Germany and Uncle Sam. Everybody gets in on the action - when every elite pig-fucker is playing the same coordinated game, anyway.
Great reply Mitzibitzi and well written. "Les Republiques De Banana". El Perfecto.
"Les Republiques De Banana"
Yes, solid gold!
When corporations jump into bed with intelligence agencies and develop frameworks for ongoing information exchange, they are engaging in ESPIONAGE.
This won't end well for certain individuals. If you think the CIA or the NSA "has your back" when you are engaging in espionage against a foreign government, you are a fool, as to the State you are nothing more than a tool a achieve a desired end. When State actors are engaging in currency and trade wars to advance national interests, the executives of foreign corporations provide low risk high return opportunities to apply diplomatic pressure.
Meanwhile, in a totally unrelated universe, the Internet is "Going Dark",
Hmm..Starting to believe in this Illuminati and NWO thing. Well who knows
Another irregular verb:
I am a patriot.
You do not understand the national emergency that we face.
He is a traitor.
I've been said this, since the days of Win98 and folks called me crazy. The NSA has a backdoor into ALL major communication electronics. Peroid. The secret is to float below radar. Too late for us regulars however.
"Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are 'out to get them.'"
Paranoia cannot be a mental illness when:
a) Its definition is actually true
b) Everyone else now has it.
Is there a list of these companies? Can it be compiled and made public?
It's always darkest before you pull your head out of your ass.
Just as the INSLAW scandal (which has never been resolved) was a DOJ inspired evil web that when uncovered disclosed The Octopus, likewise Fast and Furious is the corner of another evil web.
And this hilarious Captain Renault BS about who are so shocked! shocked! to discover how DISC works... Are there any honest journalists or commenters left?
OT:
Today, the BBC in the UK are reporting that the Home Office have issued a "travel alert" to all airlines in Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia NOT to allow Edward Snowden to travel to the UK.
This not only shows how up-to-their-necks the UK Govt are with Obama's criminal NSA surveillance actions, but also that the UK Govt are happy to issue such an alert BEFORE the US Govt have even issued an arrest warrant for Snowden; as at this time he is not wanted for anything by anybody.
Enoch Powell once said that the UK's foreign policy consisted in figuring out what the US wanted, and doing it before the US asked.
So conspiracy theorists are just delusional paranoids.
The government is not illegally spying on you... government economic data is released to everyone at the same time, and not to privileged corporations 2 seconds before it's actually released... libor is not manipulated... and oh ya, gold and silver are not manipulated either... Ok.
This is really, really bad... I just hope the legal system still works and some of this starts to get dealt with.
***So what specifically does Google provide to the government?...That metadata includes which version of the operating system, browser and Java software are being used on millions of devices around the world, information that U.S. spy agencies could use to infiltrate those computers or phones and spy on their users.***
This is nothing. If you want to see the information any site can obtain about you go to:
http://ip-check.info/?lang=en
Click on "Start test"
On the ongoing buildup of the international war machines; the hottest game in town along with cyber space spooking.
Here is a summary of Arms deals done by the Europeans over a near 15 year period. As usual The Guardian provides us with good facts and figures :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2013/jun/13/interact...
Find out who http://www.naviance.com/ (naviance) is. I have looked pretty deep... and boy oh boy... data minning is all in the face of highschoolers... yes the next generation. Who, what, where, when and why. They have is all covered... inoformation for sale to the highest bidder. Actually the highest Gov. agency.
I agree. Old-fashioned corporate espionage is a thing of the past. Companies must suckle at the teat of the mother cow of stolen secrets and inside information or they will perish. Those who are unlucky or not strong enough to grab a teat wither away and die.
“A man's life in these these parts often depends on a mere scrap of inforamtion.” - Man with no name
It looks more and more like Orwell's 1984 actually started.... in 1984...
I never thought I would say this, but, relatively speaking Steve Cohen at SAC now looks like a saint.
The next time the NSA or CIA lets out a spy contract for bid the question shouldn’t be, “What fee will your company charge?". The question should be, “How much will you pay us for the opportunity to be involved?”
If a government gives someone immunity to liability for something unlawful in the first instance, that does not give that party immunity, e.g. you can't give someone immunity for murder just because it comes from the defacto government. Virtually every aspect of the ENTIRE government today is based on fraud
see this
The powers of government were never given the jurisdiction to do the things they are doing today.
http://www.dirtyunclesam.com/
MEMORANDUM OF LAW ON THE NAME-excellent treatise on the legal "strawman"
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/MemLawOnTheName.htm
How the IRS traps you into liability by making you a fiduciary for a dead "strawman"
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instructions/0.6HowIRSTrapsYouStrawman...
It's MONOPOLY baby!
GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card, signed by the Attorney General for the Telcos and Techs!
Snowden gets a GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL card. DO NOT PASS GO , DO NOT COLLECT $200.
Washington now owns Boardwalk and Park Place, and has filled them with motels. Yes, they're filled with roaches, but no worries.
It's only a matter of time ...
Ah, Parker Brothers may have seen it even better than Orwell ...
It's not a word I throw around lightly, but um... isn't this... Fascism?
I find the term inverted totalitarianism more exact
it's a form of subversion and/or corruption of an existing liberal, democratic and republican setup
I stickle to this differentiation because a truly fascist regime would face a different series of difficulties and behave way differently in certain things - and make a different set of people happy or, on the other side, unhappy
For all intents and purposes: YES, accepting that no two incarnations of any political ideology are identical. Several other things I learned today along these lines;
- the bossman of Nestle recently stated that *water* should not be an automatic human right. Meaning that water should be commercialised, and presumably, its supply controlled by big money.
- Bill Gates has been doing the rounds advocating *eugenics*, after admitting that his own father was a member of the original eugencis movement some years ago.
As an RT.com guest said ..."we have some rich billionaires putting themselves up as kings and the rest of us as peons."
This almost seems to go all the way back to the days of Al Capone. The government says, "We know you're a bad guy but you are so good at it that we can't prove it. So instead we will piece together all kinds of information and then see if we can find, or create, some other kind of law that will let us use our data against you."
Here is a 5 minute MUST WATCH video that was made by the Corbett Report and appears on Sibel Edmonds site, Boiling Frogs Post.
The Transformation Of Society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JHTDmZuDwYA#!
Storage in the cloud get a new meaning
The people who use cloud computing started doing so because they were offered a free "Unicorns and Skittles" screen saver.
Feinstein will seek limits on who can see NSA data
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/13/193887/feinstein-will-seek-limits-...
I bet her husband, Richard Blum, will still have access.
http://dailybail.com/home/senators-husbands-firm-cashes-in-on-crisis.html
It's nothing more than a "Pay to Play" system. The republic is dead.
The republic is nothing more than the people and the people aren't dead physically. They are dead spiritually.
The greatest hero who ever lived said "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends."
We know what you are willing to live for but what are you willing to die for?
The answer to that question is the rebirth of the republic.
You are not powerless or they wouldn't waste all that money on propaganda.
"The republic is nothing more than the people and the people aren't dead physically. They are dead spiritually.
The greatest hero who ever lived said "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends."
We know what you are willing to live for but what are you willing to die for?
The answer to that question is the rebirth of the republic.
You are not powerless or they wouldn't waste all that money on propaganda."
I down voted you not because you mentioned the "greatest hero" who ever lived.....namely Jesus Christ of whom I believe in as well.....but I down voted you because you conflate the idea of sacrifice vis a vis Christ's sacrifice for us, which He considered a worthy cause, with sacrificing yourself for an ultimately unworthy cause as saving this Republic.
All human ideas of civil societal constructs, even our Constitutional Republic,are flawed and doomed even before they begin because they are born in sin. Also, I am sure you recite from time to time the Lord's Prayer......"Thy KINGDOM come, thy will be done....on earth as it is in Heaven."
Kingdom....not a republic...is the the model for human existance. Why else...at the end in Revelation....."and behold, I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the former heaven and former earth had passed away"
That which is unworthy and unsustainable will not last. So do not spend much time worrying about this or that republic......it was yet another in a long line of man made utopian dreams that have and will all fail....no matter what you do....for they were, and all, are born in sin.
BTW, I thought everyone might like to know how Amazon (and certainly the NSA too) classifies us here on ZH.
I just got a side ad from Amazon for the book “Diabolist”, a thriller about a couple who travel far and wide to infiltrate and understand the world’s most dangerous cults.
That’s funny, I don’t recall ever telling Amazon that I was a member of ZH. I seriously doubt that Tyler has the resources or time to waste informing them about that either.
It’s a small world after all, it’s a small world after all, it’s a small world after all, it’s a small, small, world.
(Sing it everyone, you know, for the children).
I mentioned arthritis on a landline Sun. & got a banner ad (here) for trial meds & $50 per day.
Even if you're making this up it sounds believable and rings true!
What a world.
WTF would I make it up?
I worked in telco for 38 yrs. Give me a disposable address & I'll send you a screen shot next time it comes up. This isn't the only incident per a particular conversation. The funniest thing is these voyeuristic pukes also target me with asian & latin female and male dating ads. Not sure if they're having an issue determining gender or if they think that I'm a switch hitter. LOL
Amazon buys advertisement space linked to your cookies or IP address.
All about Facism for $1000 Alex. Who is the obomba
Power corrupts in every case. All hierarchical systems eventually promote the most senior members to the highest positions of power.
The utopian key to a free world is NO hierarchical systems but barring that, leaders in hierarchical organizations (government, corporations, churches) should be changed out frequently.
The argument that nothing will get done is specious.
There was a recent article on what it cost a company to capture "my data." We need a Bill in Congress protecting"my data", we need to be paid in return for this informaiton. If our information is oh so precious for these mega corporations, then pay up!
We the people, the last to know.........some. Washington exposed.
They pit us against each other (dem/rep) so we are distracted from total..............them.
Only when we unite will we be capable of controlling our destiny instead of being controlled.
What is the point of following the law if it applies to everyone except the people making it.... If you can't protest in front of a court what is the fucking point of the first amendment, what is the point of even paying attention to fucking government anymore.What is the Supreme Court now a first amendment free zone now. Anyone sensing any irony in this.......
A contract aka laws and our Constitution require an agreement of 2 parties seems one of them thinks the contract doesn't apply to them anymore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/supreme-court-bans-protests_n_3...
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has come up with a new regulation banning demonstrations on its grounds, two days after a broader anti-demonstration law was declared unconstitutional.
The regulation bans activities on the court's grounds or building such as picketing, speech-making, marching, vigils or religious services "that involve the communication or expression of views or grievances, engaged in by one or more persons, the conduct of which is reasonably likely to draw a crowd or onlookers."
It says that "casual use by visitors or tourists" that isn't likely to attract a crowd is not banned. That may be a way of addressing the concern posed by a federal judge who threw out the law barring processions and expressive banners on the court's grounds.
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What a bunch of fucking weasels.
Just a reminder about the 1st Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
You can add the press as under attack also these days if not completely co-opted.....
They tried against the 2nd now the 1st Amendment is up on the attack vector.
Let me expand on the irony part. The Supreme Court set force regulations to violate the 1st amendment because a law violating the 1st Amendment was struck down as unconstitutional. The same Constitution they are supposed to uphold.
Last time I checked peaceably assemble and protest didn't specify a size limit like a soda in Bloomberg run NYC or a location where, the only limit is on it being peaceful and content as far as redress goes........
Anyone seeing a pattern here with regulation being used to to supplant the laws of the land at whim when government entities see fit to do so and then the same laws will be used justify it through inversion tactics. Anyone putting one and fucking one together yet concerning Marxists and Fabian Socialists........
Can you see it? Can you say it? Neo-feudalism, baby.
Early feudalism, up to about 1000 AD, was preferable to the government arrangement we have today. There was local control, relative freedom of movement, and respect of property rights. Laws varied widely from territory to territory, and kings had little power.
A few days ago, someone called our house while I wasn't home. They said they knew I have a car that they want. The car isn't available for sale! It's MY car!
Yesterday, the same person, a car salesman from a local dealership, sent me a letter saying that he "needs" MY car. It doesn't seem to matter to him that the car isn't for sale, and that I need MY car. He just wants it, and is hounding me about it! He acts as if MY car is really HIS, and that he can keep pressuring me to sell it to him!
This feels eerily Big Brother. How does a car salesman know that I have the car, what my phone number is, and my address? He could only know that information by somehow accessing a State database of car owners. It's just CREEPY! And it proves that the company that maintains the State database is providing that information to private individuals and companies without MY authorization!
If you have nothing to hide....
see this new infographic to find out how much money is at stake in the information - on you. The value is immense!
http://www.getelastic.com/how-data-brokers-track-consumers-infographic/
Whatever you say, email, and post anywhere online can and will be used against you in our secret court of national security and exclusive private profiteering.
And no, we don’t have to tell you that in advance. We don’t even have to tell you when you’ve been convicted and incarcerated (classified) in our system.
And BTW, if you challenge us on this you will be classified.
Have a nice day.
The Bankruptcy of The United States United States Congressional Speaker, Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/truth-about-america-truth-about-us/
BUT:
The Lie of the US Bankruptcy of 1933, by Henry Shivley
Chapter 11 is a form of bankruptcy designed for corporations, not governments. When this bankruptcy took place our Constitutional Republic was dissolved and replaced with a corporate democracy, social corporate fascism. Our elected representatives became the trustees and the international banksters became the receivers. And of course like every bankruptcy the matter had to be sanctioned through a court, the United Nations Court in fact.
There is just one little problem. The United Nations didn’t exist in 1933. This bankruptcy, which can be considered nothing more than an international coup within the United States, was and is a complete fraud, perpetrated by the same international gangsters that accomplished the creation of the unconstitutional Federal Reserve.
ttp://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-lie-of-the-us-bankruptcy-of-1933/10758
You're the loser? Hell no! You may be the winner of a McAfee's customized computer scans developed just for you!
Just ask Sharyl Attkisson about computer scans when she isn't busy talking about Benghazi
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57589367/cbs-news-confirms-sharyl-at...
the only things they are not doing is wiping your ass and paying your taxes and mortgage... other than that they live and breath your life ... for fun and profit ... TRUST US .....