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Iran Sends 4,000 Troops To Aid Syria's Assad
While the world awaits Russia's formal response to last week's US escalation in Syria (as Putin demonstratively arrived an hour late for talks on Syria with UK PM David Cameron) another country: Iran - fresh from an election in which moderate candidate Hassan Rohani became the new president - is taking matters into its own hands. The Independent Reports that "a military decision has been taken in Iran – even before last week’s presidential election – to send a first contingent of 4,000 Iranian Revolutionary Guards to Syria to support President Bashar al-Assad’s forces against the largely Sunni rebellion that has cost almost 100,000 lives in just over two years. Iran is now fully committed to preserving Assad’s regime, according to pro-Iranian sources which have been deeply involved in the Islamic Republic’s security, even to the extent of proposing to open up a new ‘Syrian’ front on the Golan Heights against Israel."
If it was the west's desire all along to drag Iran into the Syrian escalation, and thus shoot two birds with one cluster bomb, Iran may have just happily obliged.
So while we now await for Israel in turn to ratchet up the war rhetoric one more time, perhaps while punctuating its sentences with the occasional bomb over Syrian soil, here is the Independent with a comprehensive analysis on how America, courtesy of its now formalized support of the Syrian mercenaries rebels, suddenly finds itself in uncharted territory: "For the first time, all of America’s ‘friends’ in the region are Sunni Muslims and all of its enemies are Shiites. Breaking all President Barack Obama’s rules of disengagement, the US is now fully engaged on the side of armed groups which include the most extreme Sunni Islamist movements in the Middle East."
More:
In years to come, historians will ask how America – after its defeat in Iraq and its humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan scheduled for 2014 – could have so blithely aligned itself with one side in a titanic Islamic struggle stretching back to the seventh century death of the Prophet Mohamed. The profound effects of this great schism, between Sunnis who believe that the father of Mohamed’s wife was the new caliph of the Muslim world and Shias who regard his son in law Ali as his rightful successor – a seventh century battle swamped in blood around the present-day Iraqi cities of Najaf and Kerbala – continue across the region to this day. A 17th century Archbishop of Canterbury, George Abbott, compared this Muslim conflict to that between “Papists and Protestants”.
America’s alliance now includes the wealthiest states of the Arab Gulf, the vast Sunni territories between Egypt and Morocco, as well as Turkey and the fragile British-created monarchy in Jordan. King Abdullah of Jordan – flooded, like so many neighbouring nations, by hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees – may also now find himself at the fulcrum of the Syrian battle. Up to 3,000 American ‘advisers’ are now believed to be in Jordan, and the creation of a southern Syria ‘no-fly zone’ – opposed by Syrian-controlled anti-aircraft batteries – will turn a crisis into a ‘hot’ war. So much for America’s ‘friends’.
Its enemies include the Lebanese Hizballah, the Alawite Shiite regime in Damascus and, of course, Iran. And Iraq, a largely Shiite nation which America ‘liberated’ from Saddam Hussein’s Sunni minority in the hope of balancing the Shiite power of Iran, has – against all US predictions – itself now largely fallen under Tehran’s influence and power. Iraqi Shiites as well as Hizballah members, have both fought alongside Assad’s forces.
Washington’s excuse for its new Middle East adventure – that it must arm Assad’s enemies because the Damascus regime has used sarin gas against them – convinces no-one in the Middle East. Final proof of the use of gas by either side in Syria remains almost as nebulous as President George W. Bush’s claim that Saddam’s Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.
For the real reason why America has thrown its military power behind Syria’s Sunni rebels is because those same rebels are now losing their war against Assad. The Damascus regime’s victory this month in the central Syrian town of Qusayr, at the cost of Hizballah lives as well as those of government forces, has thrown the Syrian revolution into turmoil, threatening to humiliate American and EU demands for Assad to abandon power. Arab dictators are supposed to be deposed – unless they are the friendly kings or emirs of the Gulf – not to be sustained. Yet Russia has given its total support to Assad, three times vetoing UN Security Council resolutions that might have allowed the West to intervene directly in the civil war.
In the Middle East, there is cynical disbelief at the American contention that it can distribute arms – almost certainly including anti-aircraft missiles – only to secular Sunni rebel forces in Syria represented by the so-called Free Syria Army. The more powerful al-Nusrah Front, allied to al-Qaeda, dominates the battlefield on the rebel side and has been blamed for atrocities including the execution of Syrian government prisoners of war and the murder of a 14-year old boy for blasphemy. They will be able to take new American weapons from their Free Syria Army comrades with little effort.
From now on, therefore, every suicide bombing in Damascus - every war crime committed by the rebels - will be regarded in the region as Washington’s responsibility. The very Sunni-Wahabi Islamists who killed thousands of Americans on 11th September, 2011 – who are America’s greatest enemies as well as Russia’s – are going to be proxy allies of the Obama administration. This terrible irony can only be exacerbated by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s adament refusal to tolerate any form of Sunni extremism.
In short: meet the new world axis and allies, conveniently split by the Syria proxy war (h/t Xue):
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If one thing's for certain, it's that Putin clearly recognizes Obama as a delusional marxist.
Affirmative action doth not intelligence make; there's no political correctness outside the West.
Sandmann, Yes, you have hit pretty close to the reality of this side show in Syria. It is part of the larger plan to eliminate the larger nation states of the Middle East and North Africa that will allow Israel as a US proxy to be the only viable military force in the entire Middle East. That is the goal in Syria, Libya and Iran.
As to the larger picture, you are right again! The long term goal of this is a proxy war against Russia. Russia is the big prize, and if you have payed attention, the USA and NATO have already been using the Arab Spring Playbook inside Russia. Here is how that goes. The USA and EU fund anti Russian nationalist forces via large richly funded NGO's who work to promote pro western and pro corporate Russians in their efforts to eliminate the Russian Nationalist movement and replace it with a New World Order government compliant to NATO and compliant to western corporate interests. The Russians working with these western NGO's have been promised power and great wealth once the west moves into control of Russia economically and then politically.
The second Western Proxy war is the support in arms, training and funding of anti Russian border nations like Georgia and the terrorist movements in the southern Russia secular republics. The USA for example funded and armed the Chechen terrorist movement. The USA goaded Georgia with arms, intelligence and trainers to invade South Ossetia. The Russian response was a surprise to NATO, as they thought that Russia would cave in as it has done in very instance up to then.
The bottom line is NATO covets the Russian territories and resources. The big win for the west would be US corporate control of Russia's resources. This is the end game of all the US and NATO actions.
Russia needs to beware of all Western funded NGO's. They need to combat with their military every US funded terrorist network in the world. Syria is the main base now for US funded Sunni Jihad and Al-Qaeda terrorists.
My advice to Putin is to go all in with the Syrian government. Weapons and even Russian special forces and Marines on the ground. Plus a heavy shipment of Russian manned anti air craft missiles. And a large Naval force in Tatrus. Note, some of the Russian warships that dock in tartus from time to time carry naval versions of the most modern variant of the S-300 system. Thus a Russian warship could, on it's own, enforce a high cost on NATO's opening air attacks.
China is still fence sitting, allowing America to spend itself into bankruptcy via it's limitless wars. As of now, China need do nothing but watch and wait. The US wars are all unfunded and the dollar as reserve currency is weakening. CHina fence sits because they need do nothing right now. Russia is under direct attack via US proxy terror groups. They need to begin to fight against the Syrian conquest by NATO with all their armed forces. They are next, after Iran and Syria.
America under both Bush and Obama has spun out of control. The pro Israel groups have highjacked Ameica. And we see the results. Obama is worse than Bush. His liberal supporters actually believe supporting Sunni terrorists in Syria is freedom fighting! Dupes!
Sandman & JB thanks. The picture just got a lot bigger.
I think you are wrong about China sitting on the fence much longer.
The various US miilitary deployments aimed at 'containment' will not be allowed.
I'm expecting an outright US/Russia military confrontation before years end with a
coordinated financial attack incl. China before or during that event.Sooner than
China wanted,but they will not pass up the oppotunity.It wiill be interesting to see
how the Chinese components in US weapons systems perform.All those trapdoors.
Sure its just a coincidence.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend,
IMO we're seeing rival criminal gangs going at it on a mass scale. They have the advantage of employing propaganda arms to convince the sheeple to be the instruments of the gang rivalry.
Dont think those opposing western bankster globalists (perhaps Russia & China) are 'good guys', theyre not. We don't even know if they might not be part of the overall team and plans to depopulate the planet. (I'm NOT saying this is their goal, we don't know what the hell are their goals at the highest levels running things. Thats all I'm saying.)
Theyre all bad guys who live off their people and cause great human misery.
Mexican standoff: enemies of your enemies are NOT your friends
If I were Putin, I would find all these NGO people and shoot them.
Nobody elese would volunteer for NGOs after that.
Interesting points. How long do you think Putin will take before he goes after the NGO's in his country and tosses them out?
then how come Iran now controls more territory than before the Bush de fucking bacle invasion. and the sunni's have lost ground and are losing in syria now to the point where Iran smells blood of U S backed sunni militants and is sending in 4000 troops to carry out a bloody massacre of al qaeda. BHO is going to look like a poser if he tries anything to stop it, point set and match shia IRAN/Russia
@ Jack Burton
About your 3662757: Respect, I take my hat off!
Brzezinski argues that the one who owns Eurasia, owns the world.
I see that you have read Brzezinski's plans for the capture of Eurasia.
I think you have Russian roots. I have never seen such a clear and correct understanding of the situation about USA vs Russia.
If Obama begins in Syria a military conflict with Russia, then U.S. military in Afghanistan will be in the meat grinder.
Putin will be instantly override all deliveries of American military supplies to Afghanistan through Russian territory.
Moreover, Putin will open supplies arms to insurgents in Afghanistan. This will end badly for the U.S. Army in Afghanistan. I do not know how Washington can take out from Afghanistan even the bodies of soldiers, if Putin will send to Afghanistan only one thousand Russian MANPADS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DmQ_tE0t5U
And only one thousand Russian RPG-32:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP6MwwiMjFs
Jack Burton, you're comments would make sense except for the fact that Obama really, really doesn't like Israel. And I don't see how what has happened in Libya and Egypt in the last few years is good for Israel in any way.
It is certainly true that Israel had an outsized influence on the US between 1967 and 2008, but I'm not sure that's been the case since Obama took office.
jb, i've always felt nato and the cia must be doing in china what you believe has happened/is happening in russia...? it seems their pattern, and in the case of china, really one of their only defences.
Sandman your post 3662628 is excellent.
The whole thing gives me a headache, but nevertheless its excellent.
P.S. -- they also use radicals out of the Chechnya & other ex Soviet regions against the Russians. It'll be interesting to see where the Chinese line up in alll this. They had been Western controlled for a long time & they were reindustrialized by the U.S. when they didnt have the money to feed their own population. But they may just remember the screwing they got in the past from various Western based interests, and flip them the bird (or the Chinese equivalent - I'll have to look that up).
Im going to start storing food and other goods, from here on out to 2014 something will happen, prepare yourselves
And while we the masses are deluged with 'scandals', rumors for war and outright (limited?) war, the globalist cartel of fiat banksters has perfect cover to hit the monetary Reset button.
Rather than arming against this or that side -- all BS! -- we should be taking up... "causes" against CBs. But that ain't gonna happen. The masses are too uninformed, too dozy and conditioned, too malleable. The banksters know this.
I rather doubt that we'll have have an American Spring, but I'd be happy if we did. If we don't, and the SHTF (X months from now), only the prepared can save themselves, with appropriate counter-measures of economic and physical survival.
Then again, these crazy bastards from hell just might get us all killed.
I do the same. I buy a tank and fill it up with diesel.
"I do the same. I buy a tank and fill it up with diesel."
fuel type tank, or M1 Abrams type tank ?
surpluss Panzer
The map that tells everything:
http://mapsontheweb.tumblr.com/image/51063370181
I'm most surprised by Mongolia.
I think Russia and China figure they can crush Mongolia whenever they want, so let them have their cute little vote.
looks a lot like the map of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation
This is such great news, the markets will get another boost!
/sarc
ive told yalll mother fuckers time and time again....
there is no republican ...there is no democrat...
only a ruling wealthy elite dedicaed to the preservation of their wealth , priviledge and power...
fuck u OBitch ass and your monychanger masters...........
I think it's fair to say that nothing good will come of this.
It has gotten to the point (unsurprisingly) where everything we touch turns to shit.
aka The Inverse Midas Touch
>> nothing good will come of this.
Maybe we'll see an epic short squeeze in gold with a bunch of hedge funds taking up the poop shoot? I know, all things considered, that's like finding a peanut in an elephant turd, but you have to find the bright spot.
"It has gotten to the point (unsurprisingly) where everything we touch turns to shit."
Most 'we' had nothing to do with it. (Yeah, I know its not proper grammar, but I'm making a point.)
They use 'we' language so peoples natural tendency to support their 'tribe' kicks in. Its a great way to divert attention from political and economic criminal actions and to stomp down dissent by the people.
You and I and most Americans didn't do this. Specific crazy socio-path/psycho-path individual people are doing this.
WW3 will create jobs. +100 ES
Thousands of years of recorded history to learn from, and we are still this stupid.
Will anyone be left to record this history ?
I'm beginning to think not.orit will not be human.
Team Obama in Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okgH8xgZt_Q
How many nutbag Islamic governmnents is Obama going to set up Africa and the ME? I am starting to see a pattern.
As many as he can over the next three years. Give Obama credit, he is getting shit done over there: Libya, Egypt, and now Syria. Christians getting slaughtered or driven out by the hundreds of thousands, although you wouldn't know it from the MSM.
Meanwhile stateside,the giant surveillance state swells to enormous proportions, only for some reason, Muslims are off limits and require special white house permission before the Eye of Sauron can be turned on them. Who's side is he on, you might ask, except the answer is pretty fucking obvious.
And, oh yeah, he's bankrupting the fucking country, erasing the borders, attempting to legislate the largest land invasion in world history, and...
Well I don't need to go on.
Christians and Jews were run out of Iraq thanks to the Muslim GW Bush.
The end of Christianity in Iraq was a direct result of US support for the Sunni Jihadists in Iraq. In order to end the war against US occupation, the US allied itself with Iraq Sunni, i.e. the former rulers of Iraq. We see now the USA has gone all in on a world wide alliance with Sunni Jihad against all secular Arab governments not part of the Sunni Oil Gulf States. Syria is the logical outcome of the US Jihad against secular government, against Christian minorities, and against the Jews of the Arab world.
If Americans were real people, and not puppets of certain power groups, they would demand the impeachment of the criminal Obama for his supprt of Jihad against all non-sunni in the Middle East. The US allied Al-Qaeda have killed and driven off many Christians, whom Assad had protected for years.
Our government has spun out of control. The domestic police state and the international wars in aid of Israel and now of Sunni Jihad has marked out Obama as a member of international war criminals. He is out of fucking control. Arrest him, for god's sake, and humanity's sake!
Christians are soon going to be run out of "America" or exterminated, IMO.
Agree, although Bush didn't invade Iraq because he was a Muslim. He had other reasons. Which still aren't entirely clear.
Obama is much, much easier to figure out than Bush was.
Determined little monkeys..
Dona K''s hubby will come up with some high falutin tech refitted avionics to stop those pesky Iranians [as soon as he polishes off his home cooked gourmet meal & subsequently spends some quality time on the shitter]...
The internationlalists-the banksters-Lucifer's agents here on Earth. When Jesus sad "My Kingdom is not of this world", he wasn't kidding. Luciferians reign supreme here. They are about to turn the world upside down and once again bring Hell on earth -this time, it may be a close to Hell as we have ever seen before in the anals of History. The end may very well be near.
I'm beginning to put moar credence into the "alien lizard" people thing as well.
McCain is clearly one of the leaders of that particular group.
A reject alien lizard with those hamster pouches.
The cryptic LameCherry blogster claims Dick is dead and has been replaced by a Demon shapeshifter.
The way things are going, it would not surprise me.
This entire fucking planet is insane. When's the mothership heading for another planet stopping by? We could just leave and these fucking morons can do whatever the hell they want.
The mothership probably doesn't want us. Our best chance is to pull an Arthur Dent, imho.
Just remember your Spiderman towel.
Let me know and I'll join you, I'll bring the beer.
Most people believe that the best way for survival is to make slaves out of everyone else.
The end result is that an elite more clever and ambitious than they are turn most of them into slaves.
So undeniably true, it's the "if i were king of the world" syndrome.
Nicely explained in this video:
"If you were king"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0HtWSlFCAQ
I disagree. Most people want to live their lives and take care of their families. They want a few comforts and to see their children and grandchildren grow up.
A very small group of people are socio-paths and/or psycho-paths. They only care about getting what They Want. They will do anyting to get it and manipulate and hurt others to do so. They think those who don't think & act the way they do are 'chumps' and deserve to be taken advantage of.
Why then do most people not have a problem voting for political parties who use force to redistribute promised goods to their voting blok?
They were born and indoctrinated into a system that wants them to believe in mythical beasts, like dragons and governments...
keep in mind honestann is an idiot for proposing that government itself is mythical. It's a tangible physical thing composed of weapons, resources, collected files, trained members who can't do anything else & poses real threats.
An honest government, now that's as mythical as the toothfairy.
No, government doesn't exist.
What is for real are people with guns, people who like to rule us, and the rest of the people who think they must obey them.
Everything else (like fancy buildings, uniforms, scriptures, etc..) is just for diversion. An empty shell if you will, or a balloon.
Looks big and important, but really, it's just people with guns who imagine they have special rights you don't have.
no, government DOES exist.
Government IS the physical body of every person in it. It IS the physical guns and ammunition they have. It's a real tangible thing made of atoms just like other solids and liquids.
It's a real cache of nuclear weapons. It's a real cache of nerve gas weapons. It's a real giant allocation of fuel, metals and other things we need for more beneficial purposes. Saying government isn't real just because you wish it is like saying CANCER isn't real because it's only made from your own cells.
It's nonsense ludicrous dumbfuckery.
DIVERSION is not the same as NOT REAL. Diversions of made of real assets and have a real cost including building giant dumbfuck buildings out of materials we could otherwise put to good use. It's not a MYTH. It's a waste but not imaginary. MYTH means IMAGINARY not "wasted resources".
If someone's got bigger guns than you they DO have rights you don't have - rights don't exist without GUNS to defend them. A right of a human can only exist if that human can kill other humans who threaten desired rights. Rights don't come from a piece of paper or an idea. They come from superior killing power.
key levels of dumbfuckery that just can't be given a pass, the short list for you & honestann:
gold is a bubble
government is a myth
we can print our way to prosperity
fascism is capitalism
quotes from revelations
any serious claim that god(s) are real
any claim the bible is credible or moral
global warming is a hoax
fascism is socialism
gold has no yield so it's a bad investment
communism is socialism
no, they were born moo-cows, sheeple.
They can't do anything, birth onward, but worship their leaders.
If they can believe government is a myth they can believe any lie.
Just like... oh, wait.
So long as you can believe government is a myth or that gold is a bubble or that you can print your way to prosperity or you can believe in skyfairie gods, you have already suicided yourself into full slavery. You're a moo-cow.
Indoctrination of the moo-cows is merely offering direction. The moo-cows are born incapacitated, born disabled, mentally handicapped like down's syndrome but worse. They flat out can NOT make a decision, they must follow mythology handed to them.
For you, those who believe government is a myth fall into the classic trap: what you believe is imaginary you can not comprehend therefore when faced against it and needing to survive by defeating it you can NOT - you can't even SEE what you believe does not exist so it wins every time.
You fail.
these human moo-cows require leaders. They are so weak of body & mind they can only live off the skim handed over by the slavers.
The strong & smart require zero leadership & in fact realize that "leading" is a massive failure in human survival.
Yes, it's called social darwinism.
But what its proponents (sociopaths) don't like to think about, is that they are preying like a cancer on the productive innovative population...
A cancer is not a "race" or a "life form"... it's more like an error in the system... a virus.
The sociopaths think of themselves as superior, but they couldn't even survive one day, if they had to work hard like everyone else.
They need us normal people (as slaves), but we don't need them.
So in fact WE are superior.... cause we know how and are prepared to survive on our own... we need no slaves.
just look at how many believe that fascism is capitalism, or paper is money, or the bible is real, or that government is a myth or just as dumb, that global warming is a myth. These people were BORN into slavery at a genetic level. They flat out can't be relied upon for anything. So long as the majority of population suffers from these levels of dumbfuckery they will be slaves.
That military strut picture reminds me of something...
Oh yes, here it is...
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI
Shit is getting real. Obama really has no clue what he just stepped into.
Always keep in mind that Hussein Obama's primary objective is the destruction of *this* country.
Quoting Robert Fisk for deep analysis? Good god, please lable your humorous pieces so we don't waste time with idiot writers like Fisk, from whom the term "fisking" was coined:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fisking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisking
You don't like Fisk because there is a meme based on ad hominem attacks made against him?
But we are fighting for our freedom (whatever is left of it), aren't we?
I am watching the ocean every day looking for those bad Syrian warships and subs which threaten us in North America. I heard they are a real threat to us, with their massive army, navy and air force with secret bases all around the world, just waiting to pounce on the good old USA.
We best throw everything we got at them as they may take over our Super Power status and maybe take away our world policeman badge no one ever hired us or elected us for.
How many Americans could live with the humiliation of it all if we didn't take out this threat called Syria?
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We're fighting so Obama can distract everybody from his stank.
We're fighting so Obama can distract everybody from his stank.
Isn't it about the time that some jew named David enters the scene and kicks the shit out of Goliath?
Eat bacon and forget about all of these stupid idiots wanting to fight to the death over a stupid religion that makes no sense whatsoever.
Father Abraham had Sarah and Hagar and both were happy bitches, for Christ's sake.]
If you want to be a terrorist, be a terrorist. Fuck you if you are, ya dumbass. Find a fucking job and get a real life, jerk off.
War is great so fuck it, let's kill about 5 billion this time.
Israel + USA are "Goliath"
This was first report by an Israel paper so maybe it isn't happen at all
So Imadinnajacket is gone?? Funny the MSM didn't carry the news.
here's some oldies "world leaders" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUVZh8Iqzmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAnXltAvxhQ
The Iranian elections undermine the belief that Israel has the only democratic system in the ME. Not that democracy ever did anyone a bit of good, mind you, nevertheless...
Soon ... Barack Obama will be a wanted man
Wanted Dead or Alive
Great 1979 reggae hit by Mighty Sparrow about similar dictators
« The rule of the tyrants decline ...
It's bombs and bullets all the time
Human rights they violate
They think they too damn great
... tried so hard to survive
He too was wanted, dead or alive ! »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZGPpj9lOBA
This is just the most recent act of stupidity of the West. The US alliance with Sunni jihadis can be traced back to the 1950's. Read A Mosque in Munich. Study how the US aided jihadis in the Balkans in the 1990's. The victims of US perfidy repeatedly have been the Orthodox Christians, mostly unmentioned by the Western media. Since the fall of the USSR the US taken on the role of a bloodthirsty monster. The US public thinks this monster won't come at them?
There are many Christians fighting for assad as he is a secular leader and if the extremists get into power it will be a genocide against them- but the Godless MSM could give a shit about the Christian religion.
Also thank the godless Republicans McCain, Graham, et al.
I can't believe those two fucking MIC assholes. McCain is senile and used up any remaining POW good will a long time ago and Lindsay Graham should just come out of the gay closet so the NSA can't blackmail him anymore.
It's not about blackmail. It's ALL about that bum-blaster getting or not getting re-elected the next term. In South Carolina.
I agree. Christians and other non-muslims are already being driven out of Egypt/Libya under pain of death. The untold disaster, whitewashing our fundamentalist new BFFs.
Assad may be a London-trained Opthalmologist asshole, but with Obama recruiting Al-Qaida 'rebels' to fight another war, then the Burka lovers will get another one of their guys in power to advance the MB caliphate dream. Jimmy Carter got rid of the asshole Shah of Iran, but gave us 12 nuclear powered Ayatollahs ruling Persia instead.
there is no atheist MSM.
We don't have a president of the United States of America and that is that. Obama was elected but serves the globalist and banking cartels so he has chosen not to be president of the US but a technocrat of the globalists/ I believe we have the right to elect a president of the United States of America since we don't have one at this time.
And I vote no on the battle of the pipeline.
I love Muslim on Muslim violence. Give them all the ammo they want. Keep them fighting each other and they stay out of Your yard. That's what those people do, it's their "job" . They don't even mind if you join in, misery loves company.
peace out
The thing is you fucking moron is that somehow we always get dragged into this shit by a certain ME country that starts with an I and ends with an L and then they stand back and let the US spill our blood and $ all over the sand.
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
+++++++++
You have named the heart of the problem Otto! Yet Americans choose to not see this, blinded by the pro-Israel fundamentalist christian movement which has gained so many followers in the last 50 years.
Syria is being destroyed by a force of Al-Qaeda that draws direct support from Israel. Israel has even set up field hospitals across the Golan line to treat their wounded Al-Qaeda allies. As of late the Syrian Arab Army has handed defeat after defeat to the US and NATO backed Al-Qaeda. THUS, we see the US and NATO rush to attack Syria to support their Jihadist allies. One can only hope Putin takes these lies about chemical weapons to heart and begin a massive sea and air lift of weapons to Syria.
Russia is now a Christian nation, and a backer of secular government across the Arab world. But secular governments are now almost eliminated there. Syria is alone in the region. Jordan is ruled by a king. Egypt is ruled by a US allied Muslim Brotherhood. Egypt has just called for the formal removal of Assad, and his replacement by a NATO puppet Muslim Brotherhood government. The people of Turkey are now revolting against the Muslim Brotherhood rulers of their nation. The USA backs the government in it's rapid Islamic take over of Turkish society. Secular Turks are under attack. The USA cheers on the extremist Muslims. How about that for a war on terror. Ha! Ha! Who are those terrorists again?? 9/11???? This act was carried out by the main US friend in the region Saudi Arabia. Almost all the 9/11 killers came from the allied nation of Sadi Arabia. Iraqs were punished for Saudi crimes. The US is out of control!
i think you're off, this is Sunni pushback against fundamentalist leaning leadship in places like Syria and Turkey. (they banned alcohol on campus is Turkey, take to the streets!) Russia supports any politically stable solution, whether its Sunni or Shiite. Assad is part of the Alwite, Shiite group, while the majority of Syria is Sunni, Al Qaida is Sunni. the official meme is that those evil wife beating radicals won't let their kids go the school, ergo the Shiites are crazy violent people, but its Sunnis causing violence in Iraq. Hussein (Sunni) invaded Kuwait, and started a war with Iran. Sunnis were the minority in Iraq. Obama is a global progressive like Bush. we like to punish people too, but if a husband beats his wife we throw him in jail.
Hey, numbnuts, don't put words in my mouth. Read what I fucking wrote and then kiss my ass.
I don't know if we get "dragged" into anything or the heart of beast resides right here at home. When you start to look at the size or each "lie" and how they fit together, it's quite an amazing project, this Zionist thingy. These pranksters have the had the carrot and stick thing worked out seemingly for decades and so well, 5 star Generals hardly seem to know they are motivated by it.
When running such an ambitious scam, make sure you control the money supply and print it as needed. Don't forget control of the media and for gawd sakes, buy every politician off your can.
uss liberty
9/11
naqba genocide
OH NO! Am I now a rayciss?
Good thing you're not a Christian because Christians are instructed to love their enemies and there's not much sport in that.
Since you brought it up... fuck ALL religions and Gods. That shit will get you killed.
Baby, bathwater, it's all the same to you.
They baby ain't mine so I don't care what happens.
So you want religious folks to get fucked because you have no opinion about religion? Sounds like an opinion to me. Or is it just a matter of faith with you?
see, you put words in my mouth too.
I do not care if PEOPLE need to believe in a God and get together in groups to validate there beliefs. Different strokes for different folks. But My opinion though remains the same, Fuck all gods and religion. Now, go do what you want except kill because God is on your side.
Was it me who made you say that you love Muslim on Muslim violence? As one nonbeliever to another I thought you might be well served to consider that being an atheist doesn't mean you have to be a dick as well.
there's a line in The Rise and Fall, that Rome did persecute the Christians to an extent (in fact they had a policy of tolerating all religions, and encouraged their newly conquered nations to worship the old gods - since the Romans really had none of their own) but Gibbon said, what Rome did to the Christians was far less violent than what they did to each other.
you are clueless. I down arrowed you and somehow at the same time it gave you uparrows. you don't have 4 up arrow votes
Who to you think runs the 'radical Muslims' ? The Brits ran them during their empire. Research the Muslim Brotherhood. This goes back a very long time.
You think I give a fuck about up and down arrows, lol. and I didn't down arrow you, you ain't worth it.
Yeah, this shit goes back even longer than You think. How about Before the bible. Same old shit different day. I get tired of hearing about it.
they don't even WANT in your yard they just want you OUT of theirs.
Oh this all will end really well. Talk about stupidity, this is all so insane, but inevitable. It's all about OIL, greed and power. If you take a gander at the Georgia Guidestones, that will tell you all you need to know about what is to come. I study some history, and it seems as if we are going to repeat it, this time though, it will be much worse! Who's side are we on again? Makes no sense to me at this moment. Which comes first the economic collapse of the world money printers or war? Maybe it will be simultaneous as one will be the cover for the other? Only thing is, with war the economy may heal, as we crank up the gun and bomb production units, there is that pesky EO out there ya know...the one where the .gov tells a company what they have to produce, the fascists are in control my friends, oh the humanity of it all.
cam moron and netanyahoo and obama understand strength.
putin is a bully his country is bankrupt his ideas crazy lunatic and dangerous.
he is out of control he must be stopped.
if tony blair says we need to be in syria NOW then this must be important.
blair understands the world he would not mention ww3 if he felt that syria was not important.
I SAY WE SHUT UP AND SUPPORT ARE HONEST LEADERS.
WILLIAM HAGUE,MI6,MOSSAD AND THE CIA CANNOT BE WRONG ON THIS.
if war hero mcain says syria is a bigger threat than libya then it must be true.
libya is doing well now we are running the show plenty of crude pumping,not forgeting all that lovely gold.
iraq and afganistan 2.
are leader these honest brokers know best if they say putin is a mad dog and a danger whats the beef with that belief.
putin and the russian are all front without trousers or boots.
i think if we sent navy seals and sas units into moscow it could help start a democratic revolution.
those vodka lovers sure love mcdonalds.
they would welcome us like heroes.
the sooner mad dog expansionist policies are stopped the better the sooner mr soros can sort out russian democracy the better for us all.
Please speak plainly, otherwise a-holes will believe you. Playing the Colbert card is hard to do without the visuals.
Nobody walks in La.
Holy shit, you're right. Given the +12/-8 votes for Wilson, it's clear that way too many ZH bloggers do NOT get sarcasm/irony, unless it's spelled out to them. Oh dear!
The real economic recovery = World War III
Wasn't that the plan all along? I am sure there is a Powerpoint somewhere.
It worked last time, didn't it?
For a true WW III to get going, there has to be a universal Sunni Caliphate. Iran has to be destroyed first. We are probably now seeing the first innings of that first part - Iran goes into Syria. Next Iran gets into a shooting war with Israel (probably in Syria), and Iran is destroyed by Israel in a thermonuclear blaze of glory. Out of the gamma-glowing ash a Sunni Caliphate is born, and quickly captures the entire Islamic World. But the business model of oil revenue is nearing an end, and the Caliphate will starve unless it conquers more territory. I mean MOAR territory. But no matter what they conquer for resources, they will never abide the existance of Israel. They must destroy Israel for their own self-worth, for Israel's very existance is a humiliation. So the prophesized Battle Of Armageddon must take place at the valley of Megiddo, in Israel. A final battle between the 200 million men of The Army Of Islam and the forces of Western Civilization. The winner rules over all forever and the loser is extinguished without a trace.
You had an interesting story (book, movie) until the second last sentence.
I rather doubt that any Westerners/Christians will want to fight, bleed or die at that point.
More like an Octagon scenario: Winner takes all.
p.s. If the 'nookes' start flying, J'lem will glow for the next 10k yrs. That's their fundamental problem: too many ppl in a very small area. Physics can be a bitch, when not dealing with fictional scenarios. Thought you should know.
dunno why this is a such a big surprise.
Saudi is Sunni. Saudi has wahabism. We protect Saudi, we fund Saudi, and for what? We actually don't get that much oil from them anymore.
Crazy thing is we support the very extremists who want to really eliminate Israel, but we get rid of nation state actors who actually allow Jews and Christians to live in their countries (Iraq/Syria).
syria is greater israel it says so in the bible.
the folks living in allepo are illegals living in greater israel they will all have to leave for jordan when liberation has come.
it is safer for the arab if they go live in jordan and sweden and norway.
It's safer for anyone to live anywhere else
but the bible is a load of horseshit, so clearly there is no Israel and shouldn't be.
** oh noes! Looks like 6 slaves to the skyfairie story written by the banksters hiding in the Vatican can't handle their slavery being questioned. Down arrows are not a cure for your incoherent desire to worship the sandy vagina in the sky **
Hate to quibble, but more accurately
Instead of "We protect Saudi"
it's
"We protect the Saud family"
There I fixed it for you.
Obama was carefully chosen by the elite US military and intelligence circles and by corporate America to replace George Bush. Knowing that the American people would not elect a Republican again for some time after the Bush record, they needed a Democrat like Clinton who could talk a good game, but was wholly onboard with the Bankers, the New World Order, The Corporate Agenda and the vast all powerful military and intelligence complex.
Obama was offered up to the dupes in the American public as change. Ha! Ha! He was anything but that!!!!!!! He has carried out the NWO agenda even more so than Bush, yet all the while he has feed the dupes in the American public a few bones like fake health care reform. Look at his record, all of it! No, spare me the socialist and liberal labels. Only fools can't see his record. The image is one thing, he plays at being liberal. Look at his record. I dare you! Look at it, and then come back and remind me that he is a liberal, a socialist and a surrender monkey. The record says different. I prefer reality to political fakery. Obama is the "Black Bush". Worse than Bush, he is going to get us into a war with Russia and Iran. The "Black Bush" is going to make profits in the defense industry sector soar to records never seen before. Millions will die! Bankers and elites will profit. Israel will profit. America will sink deepr in debt and poverty will spread, even as the poor bury their kids killed in Obama's new wars.
Hang on to your hats boys! The war monger Obama is on the rampage, being goaded on by Israel and the Banks!
And the icing on the cake of deception was giving him the Nobel Peace prize.
a preemptive peace prize at that
Where did I remember "He comes as a man of Peace" ?
there will be no war, remember, russians have said no
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178902.html
Soon to come will be Gramm and McCain to help get the US involved in yet another unwinable war to help their friend Obama to get out of the spotlight and avoid all his scandals. Time to get rid of these 2 rhino war mongers.
is that the Iranian gay squad? either way, here comesWWIII, good luck ya all.
Looks like we get to play Axis this time.
I was with the writer right until "The very Sunni-Wahabi Islamists who killed thousands of Americans on 11th September." They just won't let go of that one, will they.
What's hilarious is Osama sitting in his bunker for ten years watching the planes hitting the twin towers over and over like HE did it and then listening to, "it's an inside job" in the other ear. And you wonder why I don't give a fuck.
Tyler, this is bullish news for the markets...
sarc aside, it's pretty fucked up, Syria had surplus before the revolution, very soon it will be a waste land so that the crypto leaders of the GCC and their cronies make billions of dollars, Qatar has already spent 3bn+ USD arming the rebels.
Yes. Go long Drone stocks.
this is it... wwiii. sit down bend over put your head between your kness clasp your hands behind your head and when you see the flash kiss your ass good-bye.
Just say "No" to Syria.
And Roubini will say he does not see any major geopolitical risk right...
He is only right once and wrong for the rest of his predictions. These econmists are just a joke.
On RT
"The speculation was fuelled by the US earlier reportedly sanctioning their F-16 fighter jets and Patriot anti-missile system to stay in Jordan past the expiration of the 12-day Eager Lion exercise currently underway."
Looks like war is in the air....
http://rt.com/news/lavrov-syria-chemical-weapons-753/
AMMAN, Jordan — Eager Lion, a 12-day annual military exercise involving 8,000 personnel from 19 countries, is underway as the civil war rages next door in Syria.
About 5,000 Americans from all services are participating in the Jordanian-led exercise, which will focus on “issues such as integrated air and missile defense and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief to address current and future conflicts’ security issues,” said Maj. Gen. Awni al Adwan of the Jordanian army and chairman of the joint task force. Jordanian and U.S. officials played down any link between the exercise and the crisis in Syria, which has raised concerns that the civil war could spill over the border. More than 250,000 Syrians have fled to Jordan, according to the U.N. refugee agency.
“This exercise provides us with the opportunity to develop relationships and capabilities,” said U.S. Maj. Gen. Robert Catalanotti, the U.S. Central Command director of exercises and training.
A major participant in the exercise, which runs through June 20, is Expeditionary Strike Group 5, bringing the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group that includes the USS Kearsarge; USS San Antonio; and USS Carter Hall. The land component includes a mixture of special operations forces and Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which played a role in Operation Odyssey Dawn to enforce the no-fly zone over Libya in March 2011. [Stars and Stripes]
Not even hidden, for those who see RT = Moscow propaganda (which it is, of course).
The more I read news like this, the more Bitter Peace by Slayer keeps playing in the background of my mind....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PHWzD7C5s60
Initiate blood purge
Coalition in massacre
Mechanized high tech
Whole sale death in effect
Mutually assured
Destruction will occur
Genocide revised
Same pain through diverse eyes
Can't stop the warring factions
Hostile from the start
Always war always
Ending bitter peace
Not the last third war
Blood spills for evermore
Patriot hard line
Lay siege till the end of time
No longer kill your brother
Just slaughter one another
Watch for the deadly other
This sibling is a fucker
Can't stop the warring factions
Global tension starts aggression
Peace breaks out then breeds contempt unrest
Without a reason to fight
A time to kill
Sick lust for skeletal flesh
A taste for all decay
Enter the soldier blind
Stalking the faceless hunt
There is no conscience in this world
That can be reached for peace
Why face the human question
The need to hate
Dead stare through cynical eyes
A trust in only pain
Murder within the skin
Engrave the art of war
Become death's vile parade
March on embrace the violent mind
Can't stop the warring factions
Global tension starts aggression
Peace breaks out then breeds contempt unrest
One cryptic reason for life murder
After delays regarding remixing and artwork, including slip covers created to cover the original artwork as it was deemed "too graphic", God Hates Us All was released on September 11, 2001.
Cheerleaders or critics? You decide.
To understand conspiracy you have to "compare & contrast", so let's do just that...
1 Gaddafi said he will go door-to-door to purge terrorists
2 special ops were found to be flying into the desert, presumably to secure oil corps personnel
3 within 7 days they passed UN resolution 1973
4 week after, they sent tornado GR4's from Italy into Libya to 'secure no fly-zone'
5 that was that and it's swept under the carpet
6 summary: within a few weeks, the West felt Gaddafi would burn the oil-fields so they expedited the 'freedom'
Now look at Syria...
1 two years and they do fuck all
2 Syria doesn't have vast oil/gas fields
3 Syria / Turkey are the hub of the four seas
4 West needs a new regime to placate the oil corps with trusted transit fees once pipelines are built from Qatar
5 They need to sign off a consortium deal to begin building these pipelines
6 deadlines are approaching, so they escalate the war justification rhetoric
The conspiracy is the bullshit of freedoms and arming rebels; they're just waiting for approval the pipelines to be built to justify the expense and their vested interest in transit fees and gas supplies to reduce gazprom monopoly.
Oil is the lubricant of modern governance machinations.
Oil is the lubricant of modern governance machinations.
indeed it is. funny how everyone seems to continue to remember to forget that little axiom everytime a new episode of as the world burns comes on, innit'it?
keep filling those tanks bitchez
By virtue of their non involvement in direct military service the vast majority of Americans have given a "pass" to this and previous administrations in the use of US Military Forces to cary out the aleged National Will.
Since most Americans have "no skin in the game" there is little concern, if any, on the cost of American Lives expanded in the game of geopolitics. After all, very few fathers, brothers, sisters, sons or mothers are serving in the military compared to the overall US population.
The time is NOW for this administration to cleary state the reasons we are committing troops to active combat zones in Afganistan, Iraq, Africa, Israel/Seria and to the overall protection of Gulf states by the constant presense of the US Navy. The time is now to articulate our vital interests as well as the price we as a country are willing to pay in terrms of American lives, to protect those interests. If a sitting President cannot make a compelling case to Congres and or the American people, it is time to STOP.
If our vital interests are to protect the flow of oil for the whole world - say it and demand that all countires provide military assets to protect the flow of oil.
If our vial interest is to Guarantee the survival of the State of Israel - say it and get UN or NATO countries involved in the protection of Israel.
If our vital interest is to stop Radical Islam, then a worldwide, multi generational plan is needed, by which the religious/governance issues concerning Islam can be addressed openly with them
The continuous sacrife of American Military Lives on globalist agenda boondogles needs to stop.
Does Congress or the American people have the guts and power to stop this President?
+1
"Does Congress or the American people have the guts and power to stop this President?" -- newworldorder
Yes, insofar as power is concerned. Guts are a different matter.
Can we agree, for the purpose of this discussion, that Congress is corrupt and will not act in accordance with its Constitution duty? Thought so. Thanks.
As far as the American people are concerned;
The entirety of Constitutional self-governance (of the people, by the people, and for the people) rests your consent. Our consent. We give that consent every two years when we elect candidates to Constitutional office. Implicit in your vote for a candidate is your consent to be governed by any candidate elected.
This implicit transfer of our consent during elections is what legitimates our government under the Constitution. Nothing else.
Consent which is given implicitly can only be revoked explicitly in the same manner, by voting to do so during an election.
What does this suggest about the people's power? Informed voting breathes life into our Constitution.
Does j6p , the average Brit/European/Chinese/SEA know what is going on? I am not even talking about MEA. They all simply do not care. Who cares then in the end? Where's the money flow?
Iran sending troops is a signal that the new regime is more moderate and has become part of the simultaneous outbreak of Sunni violence in the ME. if there was hegemony in the region it was religious orthodoxy, Shia religion. break that up and you have a lot of secular Sunni nations all fighting one another. the centrally planned nations, China Russia Iran support the Assad regime. the US is also a centrally planned nation, but our foreign policy is regime change, not real political change, but after Iraq, that policy is a shambles (replacing one dictator with another while allowing central banks to run the economy, which is essentially the US/EURO model of rule. (forget Jeffersonian Democracy, this is Central Bank cronyism and exploitation) this sort of neoeconomic-colonialism allows CBs to impose IMF debt and austerity on the periphery nations, while the host countries reap tribute, cheap labor and resources. it's not really new or enlightening) there isn't much difference between US/EURO and non western goals. Non western goals are to prefer stability, and a strong central leader to keep all the ethnic racial groups from each other, but wars are often fought over less. that America has a policy of sowing dissent revolution and violence is pretty deplorable, but thats what it is
http://www.globalresearch.ca/former-french-foreign-minister-the-war-agai...
I think it's safe to say that a larger Pan-Muslim war is in the "best" interests of everyone. Not unlike WW1, all stakeholders can consolidate their camps with more war. Oil traders win, the Brotherhood in Egypt gets more western dollars to keep the rabble in check, the Iranian theocracy government get engaged and goes all-in pro-bomb, all the Arab kingdoms have no choice but to fall into line lest they be taken out of power, America/NATO get to shoot their guns and order more bullets, Israel does not get ignored anymore and gets it's Iranian bomb problem permanently addressed. The big brains at Mossad and Al are working overtime to setup this war. It's taken 9/11 and Obama's election through his Chicago handlers to maneuver the US into another quagmire called Persia.
If the US could not get a handle on Iraq (30 million pop, sunni-shia 75% Arab living on a pancake), then someone tell us how the US is going to combat 80 million 80/10 shia-sunni energized by a national project like the Persian A-bomb?
A entire armored corp could not hold the Korengal Valley, how is this going to end?
Thanks to Obomba/Team Crypto-Zionist Chicagoland we are now arming Al-Qaeda and looking to move these "refugees" (read terror cells) to America?
Simply incredible.
We deserve everything coming our way with this idiocy.
This is what happens when the MTV generation starts playing with matches and gasoline.
<<looking to move these "refugees" to America? >>
Already over 60,000 just north of Detroit and over 40,000 just east of San Diego I read, mostly from Sandwichstan and Eye-Rack.
What is "our Banksters" central bank doing on top of their sand?
I'm not worried. I live next to a US naval base. I will feel no pain.
"I'm not worried. I live next to a US naval base. I will feel no pain."
Double points for you if the base has 'boomers' (nuke armed subs for you landlubber civilians who never served)