For First Time Majority Finds President Untrustworthy: Obama Approval Plunges Among Young Americans

Tyler Durden's picture

Whatever the deteriorating economy could not achieve (courtesy of Ben Bernanke's relentless bubble blowing and pumping of the S&P 500-driven "wealth effect" distraction) for the past four years, one NSA whistleblower succeeded in a few short days, when earlier today, CNN - hardly a media known for its criticism of the administration - released a new poll according to which not only did Obama's approval rating drop by 8% in the past month, "one of the sharpest, fastest plunges in his presidency" to 45% from 53% (the first time the majority had a negative opinion of the president), not only did the majority find Obama to not be honest and trustworthy for the first time ever in his presidency, but Obama's support with one of his core constituencies - young Americans under 30 - imploded, plunging by 17 points. CNN adds: "That's particularly discouraging heading into 2014 because Democrats have felt they have a lock on the youth vote after the 2012 elections. "The drop in Obama's support is fueled by a dramatic 17-point decline over the past month among people under 30, who, along with black Americans, had been the most loyal part of the Obama coalition," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said."

Ted Turner's news network adds the following:

The president also dropped 10 points among independent voters, from 47 percent last month to 37 percent. Obama's disapproval among independents jumped 12 points to 61 percent. Again, more bad news for Democrats because those independents are especially important in mid-term elections in which older, more conservative Americans predominate.


The network pointed to several major scandals as evidence for the drop.


"The White House has been under siege over telephone and Internet surveillance, the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups, its handling of the terror attack on the U.S. consular post in Benghazi, Libya, and the Justice Department's collecting journalists' phone records as part of the government's investigation into leaks of classified information," CNN reported.


"It is clear that revelations about NSA surveillance programs have damaged Obama's standing with the public, although older controversies like the IRS matter may have begun to take their toll as well," Holland told the network.

The rest of the findings of CNN's poll:

  • A slight majority disapproves of the actions of the man who leaked the NSA documents. A majority of respondents also believe Edward Snowden, who fled to Hong Kong, should be brought back to the United States and prosecuted.
  • Six in 10 disapprove of how Obama is handling government surveillance of U.S. citizens. That's higher than the 52 percent who disapproved of George W. Bush on the same issue in 2006, when government surveillance was also in the headlines.
  • Obama's approval rating on terrorism, although still above 50 percent, has taken a 13-point hit since mid-May.
  • The president's approval rating on domestic issues like the economy, immigration and the deficit dropped by 2 to 4 points, within the poll's sampling error.

So how is Obama responding to the criticism? He is doubling down. From Politico:

President Obama defended a pair of controversial National Security Agency surveillance programs on Monday, arguing it’s a "false choice" to suggest people "have to sacrifice our freedom in order to achieve security."


With polls suggesting the controversy over the NSA programs are cutting into the president's approval rating, Obama stood by the surveillance as a tradeoff that citizens must make to remain safe.


"To say there’s a tradeoff doesn’t mean somehow that we’ve abandoned freedom," Obama told Charlie Rose, according to a transcript of the interview obtained by BuzzFeed.


The president went on to defend the NSA spying as "transparent," while defensively acknowledging that many on the left and right had compared his anti-terror policies to those of his predecessor, former President George W. Bush.


"The whole point of my concern, before I was president — because some people say, ‘Well, you know, Obama was this raving liberal before. Now he’s, you know, Dick Cheney.’ Dick Cheney sometimes says, 'Yeah, you know? He took it all lock, stock, and barrel,' ” Obama said.

Sounds about right. As for this upcoming Charlie Rose interview:

Obama leaned heavily during the interview on explanations that had already been given by the administration to justify the programs. He noted the NSA's role in disrupting a planned attack on the New York City subway system.


"The one thing people should understand about all these programs though is they have disrupted plots, not just here in the United States, but overseas as well," Obama said.


The president declined to comment on Edward Snowden, the former defense contractor who admitted to leaking details of the NSA surveillance programs.

Or just the usual, trite(sic) and true(sic) talking points.

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localsavage's picture

He just had the NSA forward your info to the IRS

Troll Magnet's picture


or pretty fucking close.

NoDebt's picture

Until the next one.

Puff puff.... 'ere.... take this.

The Thunder Child's picture

Tyler spare us the rigged CNN/PEW poles and the shitty Rothschild Reuters articles please...


economics9698's picture

95 IQ Harvard educated dip shit.

Manthong's picture

A goldfish has complete freedom to swim around his bowl, he can depend on his owner to sprinkle fish food in at times and to not flush him down the toilet.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture


A goldfish has complete freedom to swim around his bowl

'cause we're the fishes, and all we do,
are move around, it's all we do.
Well oh, baby, my hair's on end
about you.

eatthebanksters's picture

It's amazing how fucking stupid and gullible US citizens brains, no critical thought, no due diligence.  The theory is that because Obama is our first black president he must be different and better.  WTF??? Why?  If you are stupid enough to just listen to his words and buy into his bullshit, then you love the guy.  But if you look at his record and are honest, this guy is the worst president in memory. 

kralizec's picture

Yeah, and I'm supposed to feel better since some dipshit poll says 45% of the youth of America still have their heads up their butts?!

" of the enslaved, home of the cowardly."


If I had a nickel for every rant about how stupid americans worth as if this is something that isn't obvious or expected. We have a nation of 300 million.  The Average IQ in the US is 100.  African Americans average 85 and the average college graduate 115.  Asians score highest  with Whites and Latinos scoring relatively close to one another. Half the population doesn't have the intelligence to attend college level classes

Over 140 - Genius or near genius

  • 120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence

  • 110 - 119 - Superior intelligence

  • 90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence

  • 80 - 89 - Dullness

  • 70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency

  • Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness


    The properties of the normal distribution apply to IQ scores:

    • 50% of IQ scores fall between 90 and 110

    • 70% of IQ scores fall between 85 and 115

    • 95% of IQ scores fall between 70 and 130

    • 99.5% of IQ scores fall between 60 and 140

    Life really is idiocracy and we have no natural selection  so is it surprisiing that a majority of poor, ignorant and IQ challenged people can't think critically and elect the narcissists to public office. It isn't smart people that decide elections. Its the stupid


    Chupacabra-322's picture

    He's not untrustworthy.

    He's a fucking CRIMINAL!!!

    WarriorClass's picture

    When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote.

    Time the Americans started voting.

    HardAssets's picture

    It seems that the 'legacy' they try to achieve is to be Worst President Ever

    Andre's picture

    Nonsense. He's Great Presidential material.

    I'm sure he would make the best president Kenya ever had!


    Au_Ag_CuPbCu's picture

    Like I said before, Jimmy Carter owes Obama much gratitude...just sayin

    TheFourthStooge-ing's picture



    You will find this statement true whoever the current president is, until the shambling US empire shambles no more.

    TheFourthStooge-ing's picture


    impeach Obullshit!

    It wouldn't even matter. Whether it's the grumpy old geezer, the dead terrorist, or the jalapeno on a stick, the ventriloquist making them talk is the same guy. There's a stadium sized toybox full of Obama equivalent replacement puppets.

    Vichy DC is cursed earth and can only be cleansed by fire, starting from the perimeter and burning inward.

    max2205's picture

    2nd term blues...and he don't /never cared what we think

    kliguy38's picture

    I voted for him the first time before it became clear to me that if you vote for EITHER side of this slime equation you are voting for you own extermination.......NEVER AGAIN will I vote for this fraud

    Troll Magnet's picture

    No matter whom you vote for, DIEBOLD is there to make sure it won't count.

    NoDebt's picture

    Come on out to Philly sometime during an election!  There were entire precincts in Philly where they threw out the election observers (the Republican ones) for HOURS until they finally secured an emergency injunction to put them back in.  The damage was done, however.  Almost a dozen precincts reported 100% Obama vote in 2012.  Yes, 100%.  Not a single vote for a Republican, Independent or anyone else.  

    Lot of conservatives in PA don't bother to vote because while the burbs and the rural counties are overwhelmingly conservative, it doesn't matter if Philly (and to a lesser extent P-burg) go 100% for the Democrats/libs/statists.  Philly is a one party town and the epicenter of the entitlement culture.

    You know where the highest levels of (bogus) medical malpractice cases happens?  No, it ain't somewhere in California.  Right here in good 'ol Philadelphia.  City where they had to put video cameras in all the SEPTA busses because there were hundreds of people suing for pain-n-suffering who were never even on the bus!  Want to know about "traffic court" in Philly?  Yes, they have a special court system for traffic/parking violations, and you can have your tickets dismissed if you're a Democrat and take the ticket to your Ward Leader.  Out of state or not a Democrat?  Tough titties.  One more?  OK.  They used to have a special court JUST FOR ROWDIES AT THE SPORTS STADIUM DOWNTOWN (before it was ruled unconstitutional to have a special court just for that purpose). 

    And you're worried about Diebold?  Don't get all hung up on technology.  If voters were required to sign in their own DNA-verified blood Philly would find a way not to count votes they didn't want counted.

    markettime's picture

    Oh wow..some of them finally figured it out huh....we would be on the same path with John McCain if he was elected as well. It doesn't matter, the deck will always be stacked against the people. 

    ronaldawg's picture

    Can you believe that John McCain wants to get us involved in another war in Syria? When is this fucking going to stop?

    NemoDeNovo's picture



    Or atleast until "We the People" _____________ <--- Fill in the blank yourself [btw Fuck YOU NSA Bitchez]



    Freddie's picture

    Obama is being bailed out by the Evil Gang of 8 including scum McCain, Graham and Che Rubio.   Evil f**x.  Edward Snowden supposedly mentioned Obama's Gang of 8 today. 

    I really hope young people and all Americans plus others around the world realize how evil The One and his Gang of 8 maggots are and how Snowden is a hero.   The f***king geeks better get it.

    DirkDiggler11's picture

    - 1 for ever believing that lying P.O.S. and for being a dumb @ss and voting for him.

    + 1 for admitting that you voted for him and seeing the error in your ways. Way to man-up and admit your mistakes, most people won't do that.

    Frankie Carbone's picture

    I have a code, an ethic if you will, that I live by and it goes like this:


    Once my political enemy sees the error of his ways, recants, repents, and joins the cause, than all past ill will is washed away, all previous errors in judgement are forgotten, never to be mentioned again nor used as a weapon against him in future disagreements, so that he may confortably become an ally to the cause, a friend, and fellow guardian for liberty.

    You HAVE to adopt this, and live by it, if you are truly fighting for principled causes and beliefs as opposed to bloating your own ego. Your oppponents need to know that you aren't going to hammer them relentlessly for their past sins, nor render them irrelevant because they erred in the past.

    Gringo Viejo's picture

    Young Americans? If memeory serves, they were a folk group that sang for Nixon in 1968.......lmfao.

    CaptainObvious's picture

    Let's just go whole hog and do this properly, eh?

    Fuck Obama.  Fuck the creatures that spawned him.  Fuck his ugly cunt of a wife and his privileged little brats.  Fuck his illegal criminal relatives. Fuck everyone who ever threw this prick a vote.  Fuck the machine that inserted this puppet onto the throne of what used to be a free nation.  Fuck the tycoons behind the scenes who decided to run this fucker for office.  Fuck the people who wrote Obamacare, fuck Obama for campaiging for it, and fuck every congresscritter who made this travesty of a buttfuck for the whole country, law.  Fuck his imbecilic partner in crime, that Biden thing.

    Oh, and just so people don't think I'm partisan, fuck George W. Bush too.  For that matter fuck both parties.  Fuck the Senate and fuck the House.  Fuck most sitting governors, especially Cuomo the Nanny, Christie the fat fuck, and Moonbeam the Clown.

    And, yes, fuck the horses they rode in on. Fuck the farmers that bred those horses for good measure.

    Obama's approval rating from me wouldn't register on any poll, because pollsters can't factor in negative integer approval ratings.

    Omen IV's picture

    FUCKIN  A !!!

    he is a scumbag motherfucker in a strict NY sense - which means... he cant be redeemed

    Promethus's picture


    No one can say you don't give a fuck.

    Meat Hammer's picture

    Great job!  The only thing you missed was fuck John Roberts and the bought-and-paid-for Supreme Court.

    Freddie's picture

    Oh you mean the NSA'ed Supreme Court.   The other thing about Edward Snowden is a lot more shit started to make a lot more sense.   Like Snowden mentioning Obama's Gang of 8 evil scum aka Schumer, Durbin, Menedez, Bennett, McCain, Graham, Rubio and Flake.  Hopefully Snowden will tell us of their connection to The Muslim Brotherhood.

    jimmytorpedo's picture

    Hey! I breed horses.

    Fuck me.

    nmewn's picture

    Free speech is a beautiful thing.

    And fuck Clapper & Hayden (worthless, treasonous bastards that they are) for recording every key stroke I make.

    What am I thinking now douche nozzles?

    (Its peppermint, idiots) ;-)

    Frankie Carbone's picture

    That Biden Thing....


    ROFLMAO! I've tried sprays, powders, even fumigants and I still can't seem to rid myself of That Biden Thing.



    Crash Overide's picture

    What I don't understand is how the whole administration is still operating? The list of criminal charges is a fucking page long by now. There are also members of Congress, Senate, DOJ, TSA, FBI, NSA, DHS, CIA, FDA, FHA, IRS, FED, etc... etc... etc...  that should be removed and arrested.


    ...and why don't we have a DOP?  *department of peace* WTF?

    Crash Overide's picture

    The IRS is a company out of Puerto Rico that shakes down Americans for free speech, I mean are you fucking kidding me?

    The FED a privite company that creates money out of thin air and charges Americans for the curidosity, are you fucing kidding me?

    The NSA is...? I don't know, a nazi wet dream? I mean are you fucking kidding me?

    DOJ Eric Holder the top law man protects criminals, runs guns, and goes after the little guy for some bullshit are you fucking kidding me?

    DHS is a rouge agency militarizing our police and prepping for war in the streets of America are you fucking kidding me...?


    I could go on and on but 95% of you here already know all this, I guess I am just sick of the blatant criminal mob that has taken over under the guise of representation of the citizenry. It can not be fixed, it needs to be shutdown.

    HardAssets's picture

    Bob Chapman, formerly in US Army Counter-intelligence and owner of his own Wall Street firm, passed away about a year ago. He said that Wall Street and the federal government were made up of a bunch of psycho-path/ socio-path criminals. I thought he was exaggeratiing to make a point.

    He wasn't exaggerating . . . and he was right.

    James T. Kirk's picture

    Bob was a great guy. I could always count on being entertained by some economic or political malignancy that Bob was colorfully explaining or exposing to the light of day. Too bad most people felt like he was a whack job. Their loss.

    HardAssets's picture

    Bob saw a lot of things during his life. Was a golf caddy for Joe Kennedy. Spied on and was spied upon by the Russians in post war Europe while in the Army. (Where he learned things weren't quite as he'd been taught all his life. He turned down recruitment efforts by the CIA. )  Knew Ronald Reagan ("Ronnie was a nice enough guy, but he didn't have a clue.") etc, etc.  He'd seen too much to easily fall for b.s. -- I find it amusing to listen to King World News, (who wouldn't interview him), recently and have them speculate about the push by the oligarchs for a global government. Quite a few more people are starting to catch up with Bob Chapman. But then again, he'd been at it for about 50 years.

    Frankie Carbone's picture

    The quick and short answer is that it's not profitable.

    A Department of Peace implies replacing the Military-Security Industrial Complex with a Serenity Individual Complex and no one would pay more than 50 bucks for a Cluster Bong.

    chubbar's picture

    The FISA court ruled this program unconstitutional back in 2011 but the DOJ's Eric "dick" holder buried the ruling from FOIA inquiries. One of ZH posters put up the link the other day but I can't find it. Hopefully he'll repost it. Maybe Charile Rose could ask about that little fact?

    Dr. Engali's picture

    Hah! Charlie Rose ask a serious question. That's funny.