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NSA Director To Disclose Two Foiled Terrorist Plots To Diffuse PRISM-Gate Fallout - Live Webcast

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Starting momentarily, the Director of the National Security Agency, General Keith Alexander, will again testify on the Hill, this time before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence about the value of the NSA surveillance program and the extent of the damage caused by leaks of top secret data. More importantly, as CNN reports, he is expected to reveal two previously classified cases in which secret surveillance programs thwarted terrorist plots. Supposedly this is to demonstrate that "inconveniencing" the general public by quietly taking over its privacy in order to preserve its "security", has positive results as well. Alas, preventing the Boston Bombing is not among such examples.

Watch it live after the jump at C-Span 3.
 

 

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Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:12 | 3667790 GetZeeGold
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Well....OK then.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:19 | 3667820 notbot
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WHAT?!?!  Whoever leaked the fact that he is going to reveal two foiled plots is a TRAITOR! 

The Obama administration should go after the leaker with zeal!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:26 | 3667842 francis_sawyer
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They missed the one where me & my pals dumped a truckload of fizzies in the pool at the swim meet...

~~~

But they 'nailed' the Boston bombing & 9/11... [oh wait!]

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:28 | 3667896 kliguy38
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We didn't miss it.....and it was a vile act against the state.......Dick Cheney wants to personally work on you

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:34 | 3667940 Spider
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lol nice BS "look how we protect you" meeting - why two?  Why not make the number 100 make-believe terrorist attacks...

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:45 | 3668004 Fish Gone Bad
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preventing the Boston Bombing is not among such examples.

Anyone want to believe Alex Jones and his False Flag claims now? 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:52 | 3668048 Troll Magnet
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Just show me the fucking video of either one of them "putting their bag down" where the explosion occurred. They said they have it. SHOW US!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:00 | 3668094 Fukushima Sam
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Speaking of the Boston Bombing...

Anyone else notice that Jahar Tsarnaev seems to have "disappeared"?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:09 | 3668135 greyghost
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with the continued leaks daily, why am i getting the impression that the nsa has a revolt on their hands. snowden? keeps giving more and more info almost daily. either the keystone cops are in charge and he gained unlimited access or there is more than one snowden within the ranks. it also looks like some internet company employees don't like what they see down the yellow brick road. long live freedom

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:14 | 3668158 smlbizman
Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:44 | 3668284 DaddyO
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Let the spin begin...

Now that their caught. the spooks come out to tell you their harmless aparitions.

A Mises Institute article on the Intelligence apparatus

DaddyO

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:12 | 3668321 bank guy in Brussels
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Superb piece by Webster Tarpley Veterans Today, 'Snowden, CIA Shill?'

Describing the long usage of the 'limited hang-out' technique ... revealing material that nominally stirs up stuff but is actually serving the regime in various ways, and yet hiding the dirtiest of goings on ... like with the Wikileaks material that bashed other countries but managed to say little about US-Israeli crimes

Snowden is helping push Obama into the stupid war with Syria and more confrontation with China
May be a 'triple agent' trying to penetrate China

Really is a bit strange about Snowden

Whole bunch of previous NSA whistleblowers saying the same thing
William Binney, Mark Klein, Adrienne Kinne, Thomas Drake, Kirk Wiebe
All stuck on 'conspiracy' websites

But Snowden is a super-hero
Pumped by the same CIA-tied Guardian that faces a European legal case over smearing another dissident from the US with total bribed lies
Same Guardian that pumped the CIA's deceptive Wikileaks and then dumped and smeared Assange when finished with him

Snowden's crazy CV ... no high school ... spook security guard ... suddenly NSA-CIA computer genius in posh Switzerland

Snowden being pumped by one of the top CIA families in America, that of Trilateral Commission guru, and advisor of Obama and US Presidents for 40 years, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the 'Great Game - Grand Chessboard' warmonger neo-con... Zbigniew's daughter, millionaire journalist Mika Brzezinski, interviewing and promoting Snowden ... while Mika's brother Ian Brzezinski worked with Snowden at CIA-NSA Booz Allen

Jury is still out on all this

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/18/snowden-cia-shill/

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:43 | 3668579 Herd Redirectio...
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I've maintained from the start it really DOESN'T MATTER whether he works for the CIA, is an agent, double agent or triple agent.

If he is spewing disinformation it still has to be 98% accurate and factual.  So don't assume he is telling 100% the truth, and like I said, it doesn't matter if he has been allowed to 'leak' this info.

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:30 | 3668765 trader1
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veteranstoday? 

are you kidding us?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 14:24 | 3668982 Chupacabra-322
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Did he write the False Narrative Plots himself or get help from the Criminal CIA/FBI? 

 

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:03 | 3668111 kchrisc
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Ouch! My legs are blown off and I can't get up. So I slither around on the ground for over 6 minutes with my arteries all exposed and whatnot and then I get a fun ride in a wheelchair with a cool cowboy hat dude.

19 days later I'm at a Bruins game. Woo hoo! Go Bruins!

And isn't it great that my friend, the sunglasses-Jewish lady, was in Boston, at the shootout and at Sandy Hoax. Boy will she have "stories" to tell.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:18 | 3668172 Papasmurf
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It could happen that way. . .

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:56 | 3668326 ParkAveFlasher
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Goddammit, get a haircut, hippy!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:40 | 3668813 Joe A
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I can neither vote you down nor up. How did that happen?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 16:03 | 3669228 Herd Redirectio...
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when you use blockquote to start the post, the up/down arrow thingamajig is disabled.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:10 | 3668110 Bananamerican
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All through history, all around the world...you see this self-selection process at work. Cops, priests, nurses, soldiers, tinker, tailor, spy (Stasi, KGB, Checka)

alert: This is from wiki geniuses

(Cheka, the first Soviet secret police organization) emphasizes the importance and political power of Cheka)

politologist Stanislav Belkovsky also defines Chekism to be an "imperial ideology" that includes aggressive anti-Americanism {Terrorism}.)

 

The idea of the secret political police as a backbone of Soviet society was put forward by Abdurakhman Avtorkhanov, who wrote:

It is not true that the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party is a supreme power. The Political Bureau is only a shadow of the real supreme power that stands behind the chair of every Bureau member (...) The real power thinks, acts and dictates for all of us. The name of the power is NKVD... The Stalin regime is based not on the SovietsParty ideals... but on the organization and the techniques of the Soviet political police where Stalin plays the role of the first policeman....To tell that NKVD is a state within the state means to belittle the importance of NKVD because this question allows two forces: a normal state and a supernormal NKVD: whereas the only force is Chekism.

These ideas were also shared by journalist John Barron,[5] retired KGB Major General Oleg Kalugin,[6] and researcher on KGB subjects Evgenia Albats. According to Albats, most KGB leaders, including Lavrenty BeriaYuri Andropov, and Vladimir Kryuchkov, have always struggled for the power with the Communist Party and manipulated the communist leaders.[7]

Commenting on the Soviet regime of early 1980s Yegor Gaidar writes: "Authority of the regime was based on the effective secret police." Along with that, "since 1968, before the death of Brezhnev, no weapons were used to suppress the dissent. The regime has learned to do without extreme forms of violence". According to the data provided by Gaidar, "In 1958-1966 people convicted for anti-Soviet agitation amounted to 3448. In 1967-1975, 1583 people were convicted. In 1971-1974, KGB "took care" of 63 thousand people.[8]Potential dissidents must realize that their activities are known to the authorities and there's an alternative—to be jailed or to express loyalty to the authorities."

General Pension McTaxsuck is cut from the same stock....

I'll bet, at this point, HALF the NSA are perverts and/or dullards and the other half is watching those intellectuals.

 

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:23 | 3668204 aerojet
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With the total state, violence is never far off--we're blowing through all the warning signs here.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:27 | 3668220 Herd Redirectio...
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The intelligence agencies work directly for the Oligarchs.  Whether we are talking about former USSR or present day USSA.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:01 | 3668348 Bananamerican
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yeah, that would be the "revolving door" aspect of public "service", but there's also an institutional arrogance at play....There are several clubs that the "sharp-elbows" type can join....Government, Police, Banking, Intelligence services...Each, I'm sure, sees THEIR particular balliwick as the TRUE seat of power, the true "center of the universe" of prestige and power...

Fuck them all.

Most people just want to be left the fuck alone to live their lives in peace.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:20 | 3668478 Cacete de Ouro
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We thought, eh, given what was happening, eh, that the smartest thing to do was to Pull It...

 

and they made that decision to Pull....and it was pulled....and it fell in on itself....and we gazed at it...

 

Ed: OK, Larry that's quite enough, have you been drinking?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:30 | 3668236 kralizec
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Exactly.

This guy sucks at PR.

Two?!

All that freedom and liberty destroyed...for two?

Translation - "STFD & STFU slaves, we rule, you obey, got it bitches?!"

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:36 | 3668264 NotApplicable
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Hey, they're government employees! You've no idea how much WORK making up two brand new lies entails.

Besides, any more than that, and they'd be stuck in meetings all day arguing over which ones to pursue.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:23 | 3667867 EscapeKey
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He's only a traitor, if he reveals information which might be considered problematic for the government.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:24 | 3667873 Cdad
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Arrest this fellow....NOW!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:27 | 3667888 The Proletariat
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Whores!!!!!  And this fuck thinks he's doing his country a service....bow to your king BITCH!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:28 | 3667892 Cdad
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Watch live as Congress sells the entire nation down the river of totalitarianism...by asking not one probing or useful question of these guys.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:00 | 3668093 Cdad
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From raging fascism to Marxism...in one day...brought to you by the NSA.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:34 | 3668784 trader1
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i was in disbelief...

the questioning was complete BS...almost appears rehearsed (aside from a few slip-ups)

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:28 | 3667889 Gringo Viejo
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At least one will be the FBI handing a special needs individual bomb making materials.
This bullshit is exhausting.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:51 | 3668041 Chump
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It is bullshit, but it's only exhausting if you spend energy worrying about it.

We're sinking and the rats are scrambling.  Don't look back and wish you had spent more time on things that mattered.  These clowns do not matter.  Point and laugh, shake your head, but do not spend another second worrying about them.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:01 | 3668100 CrimsonAvenger
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I logged in solely so I could give you a greenie. Nice thought.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:05 | 3668120 HardAssets
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Chump: "It is bullshit, but it's only exhausting if you spend energy worrying about it.

We're sinking and the rats are scrambling.  Don't look back and wish you had spent more time on things that mattered.  These clowns do not matter.  Point and laugh, shake your head, but do not spend another second worrying about them."

 

Excellent point and one I often forget.

These guys are a bunch of criminals and its all coming down. Congress, the supreme court, & the rest of them arent going to act any differently, ever.

Do what you can do personally to prepare - - - and savor the time you have with those you care about.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:44 | 3668281 NotApplicable
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Being that I'm the one amongst my peers that predicted all of this doom and gloom over the last ten years, they do not know how to react when they now want to discuss the details of the latest scandal du jour, and I cut them off, telling them the whole narrative is fake, being no more real than professional wrestling.

I get a stunned silence, and the deer-in-the-headlight look, as they try to mentally separate the facts on the ground, with the fiction that molds the storyline. Of course, they can't do it, as they've no other basis to form an opinion around. The only thing I can do to help, is to have them replace the abstraction of government, with that of the mafia. Only then do the pieces fall into place, assuming one will/can let them.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:12 | 3668705 Herd Redirectio...
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A lot of times being direct with people and giving them the 'straight goods' has no benefit at all.  They need to arrive at the conclusion on their own (ideally), so I prefer to prod and push people in the right direction.

Like with Snowden, I ask "why is he the focus of attention, instead of the content he has leaked?" and let them stew on it a bit (when people start talking about him being HS drop out, his girlfriend, he lied about how much money he was making, etc).

Or with Syria "The way I understand it is that Syria is essentially a proxy of Russia.  Qatar wants a NG pipeline through Syria, into Europe, to make big bucks and stop the Russian monopoly. Russia does not want that to happen.  US does"

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:17 | 3668724 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The GovT is the strongest mafia

 

or

 

The mostest strongest mafia governs.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:47 | 3668598 Weisshaupt
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I have Kids, and that expands your time horizon.  These clowns matter, because they are shaping the world my Kids will have to deal with. These clowns matter because the timing they set up detemines what and how I can best act to porotect my family.   Perhaps we won't survie what is coming,   and the point about spending time on things that matter isn't lost, and my head is largely down on my own  business any more, but I can't ingore the clowns completely. 

Its too late to stop it, and the scandal du jour isn't important, but at some point the storm these clowns are brewing will arrive at my driveway .. 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:17 | 3667823 Pladizow
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The US Gov & Military have and will continue to destroy America!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:46 | 3668288 NotApplicable
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You mean "humanity." "America" is merely the means to that end.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:20 | 3667839 smlbizman
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yea...they stopped them cause they have the receipts......

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:21 | 3667844 SMG
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Again I ask:

If this is about security, why is the southern border unsecure and open?

If this is about security, why has the government let millions of people in from countries that hate the US?

If this is about security, why has the government allowed tremendous debt to be created, and a quadrillion in derivatives to exist?

If this is about security, why did the government rid itself of all emegerncy stockpiles, including the silver and wheat stockpile?

If this is about security, why did the government wasting money on neverending wars, while letting it's nuclear weapons infrastucture decay?

Hint: It's not about security, it's about CONTROL.  And FYI that data center they're building in Utah, can track everone on the EARTH, not just the US.

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:32 | 3667893 francis_sawyer
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Surely because... as we all know because you have told us all along... They're not THIS [government], they're THAT [government]...

~~~

Edit: and since you're gonna junk me, why not add the courtesy of, in your words oh enlightened one, reminding us all who 'THEY' are [in your opinion]...

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:54 | 3668045 ThisIsBob
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Obviously there are members here who are getting paid to post and to junk.  It is a government strategy and it happens across the net in all forums.  Cowards working for cowards.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:12 | 3668123 francis_sawyer
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Sure there are... But SMG is just a 'Ruprecht' who believes in things like 'Luciferian Anti-Defamation Leagues' in Switzerland...

~~~

So when I hear a bunch of bullshit coming from some 'goody two shoes' whose comments never stray far from the 'Cheers with a Bloomberg Terminal' centerline, it makes me want to barf...

I mean... if ZH were populated with a few more folks like that, the entire comment section would consist of comments that said... "Fuck the Mariner Eccles Building & the Indiana limestone it was quarried from"...

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:44 | 3668282 Herd Redirectio...
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You have beef with SMG because he labelled some of the elites as Satanic?

In my book 'satanic' is a bit of a catch-all term for people with massive occult interests.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:11 | 3668400 francis_sawyer
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No ~ I have a beef that he & his fellow 'Ruprechts', everytime the subject comes up [which is daily], goes overboard to obfuscate the identity of the perps... His favorite phrase is... "They're NOT [THIS], they're [THAT]"... & when he says 'THAT' he has, quite often  labeled the 'Luciferians' as the 'catch all' [as if everyone from the Rothschilds, to the Warburgs, Kuhn Loeb, Marx, Lenin, Einstein, Ben Gurion, Kissinger, Greenspan, Netanyahu, Bob Rubin, Larry Summers, Lloyd Blankfein, Hank Paulson, & the Bernank were all born & raised as 'Luciferians'...

So here's the 'Occam's Razor'

- Since there now exists a 'comment censorship' policy on ZH, [which never existed before]

- & since, as Tylers... "For fucks sake" comment suggested... Some entity is making trouble for ZH, in Switzerland...

- Is it more 'LOGICAL' that that ENTITY... IS NOT the 'Luciferian Ant-Defamation League'... But some other 'entity' [never to be named]?

~~~

For all of you who are tired of hearing this rhetoric, I don't give a fuck... I happen to get tired myself sometimes... Tired of people going out of their way to ignore elephants in rooms... To me ~ It's on par with the 'elephant in the room' ignorers of 911... TRUTH DENIERS...

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:16 | 3668723 Herd Redirectio...
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I am always learning, but the sort of preliminary framework suggests many of the elites are

Culturally: Jewish

Ethnically: Ashkenazi

Spiritually: Mystery Religions (literally), believers and practitioners of the Occult.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 15:58 | 3669215 pods
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To be honest I care not what they worship.  

Take away the power of fractional reserve credit money issuance and they are just another set of freaks.

pods

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 16:05 | 3669240 Herd Redirectio...
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100%

No more usury, no more fractional reserve banking, no more fiat.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:31 | 3667925 Richard Whiskey
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That data center is gonna be only a 20 minute commute for me, wonder if they are accepting resumes.

From my understanding they have low standards, free online stalking privileges, and completely over paid.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:02 | 3668109 CrimsonAvenger
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Plus, every successful applicant gets a free pole-dancing girlfriend.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:36 | 3667954 RaceToTheBottom
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I am sure the Data center in Utah is just a little genealogical app to support Mormons interested in that sort of thing...

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:56 | 3668071 Richard Whiskey
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Mormons are dense tell them god commands you too and they'll do just bout anything.

Even join a cult.

Don't know who is full of more shit, Joseph smith or Alexander.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:40 | 3668273 kridkrid
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Under the Banner of Heaven is an excellent book for those interested in the history of mormonism, past and kind of present. Krakauer is a great writer.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:39 | 3667955 Tinky
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While I sympathize with your broader point, this:

"...why has the government let millions of people in from countries that hate the US"

is ridiculous. No country hates the U.S., and it is ludicrous to suggest that individuals from certain countries should not be allowed in based on cartoonish stereotypes.

You must somehow imagine that all Americans "hate" Iran, or vice versa.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:48 | 3668024 SMG
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No you're right, there's good and bad in all countries,  I'd retract that, but can't edit it.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:49 | 3668302 MrPalladium
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I call bullshit!

Fedgov is letting in millions of immigrants who hate the core population of America. La Raza and Mecha want to ship all white people back to Europe.

A large fraction of the central asian immigrants want to islamify America.

This notion that immigrants lose their ethnic and racial loyalties the moment they set foot on U.S. soil is complete BS! Equally absurd is the notion that they have no hostility toward the alien (us) they encounter on arrival.

Over generations the hostility can soften, but why put up with it at all in an economy with high unemployment?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 14:44 | 3669051 Tinky
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"Fedgov is letting in millions of immigrants who hate the core population of America"

"A large fraction of the central asian immigrants want to islamify America."

Patently absurd.

"This notion that immigrants lose their ethnic and racial loyalties the moment they set foot on U.S. soil is complete BS! "

Ignorant straw man.


Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:56 | 3668324 NotApplicable
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"Countries" do not exist, as they are but an abstraction. Only people exist, and yes, there's good and bad within all.

Until you stop speaking as a slave (collectivist tool), you'll never be free from their clutches, as their ideas are the very trap that binds.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:37 | 3667964 FeralSerf
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The Lord works in mysterious ways.

As one of The Sheep, you can't be expected to understand these security needs. That's the reason we have Security Experts, like the good general.

They're from the government and they're just here to help you.

/sarc

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:52 | 3668314 NotApplicable
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Why do you ask these obvious questions here? Those are the type of questions you ask at a pro-government lefty/righty website.

Playing off of the script like that only has value amongst the true believers. Around here, it's fucking embarrassing, as you're giving credence to the lies used to obfuscate (the fact that you undermine them means nothing in a divide and conquer world (a.k.a. the elite thank you for your participation)).

Simply put, "the government" doesn't exist, and your propagation of that meme in order to discredit it only works against you.

It is definitely about control, but it isn't an abstract government doing it, but all of the unaccountable individuals hiding within the abstraction. Every time you use the phrase "the government" you've given them full immunity for their crimes in progress.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 14:04 | 3668892 SMG
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Would saying something like :

If General Keith Alexander and the people who control him care about security....  be better then?  I'll try and come up with a better term maybe.

The collective I think I would like to think I belong to are defenders of liberty and the Bill of Rights for everyone, even the whole world.    I mean even the Elite are a collecitve.  Just a really evil one.  Humans are pack animals right, we tend group up by instinct.  

The point I was trying to make with the questions is that, Gen Alexander and many other poiliticians like Graham, McCain, Obama, Cheney and the like are making the argument that they are taking away libery, because they care about our saftey.  If they really cared our saftey they would address those issues I stated, but they are not, so that proves our saftey is not there real goal.

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:03 | 3668357 Winston Smith 2009
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You already know this, but:

If this is about security, why is the southern border unsecure and open?

To allow into the country cheap labor that can't complain and future Democratic voters.

If this is about security, why has the government allowed tremendous debt to be created, and a quadrillion in derivatives to exist?

Because they are effectively owned by those issuing that debt and those derivatives because of our money-driven election process.

If this is about security, why did the government wasting money on neverending wars

Because when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Plus, the use of military force requires far less finesse than diplomacy.

while letting it's nuclear weapons infrastucture decay?

THAT non-fact has been greatly exaggerated in the press primarily by two incidents.  The vast majority of that infrastructure is just fine.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:21 | 3668738 Herd Redirectio...
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The southern border is unsecure and open as one element of a Divide and Conquer strategy.  Divide the country into three distinct ethnic groups, White, Black, Latino.  Make sure they do not see eye to eye whatsoever, and are incapable of agreeing or co-operating with each other.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:21 | 3667845 DaveyJones
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one involved two dachshunds and the other a chimanzee

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:25 | 3667880 pods
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Mentos and a 2L bottle of Diet Coke.

pods

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:33 | 3667939 tip e. canoe
Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:35 | 3667952 francis_sawyer
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Keeping us safe from these terror attacks...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKoB0MHVBvM

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:25 | 3667875 sus sapientiae
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Through policy and aggression, government creates multiple threats (whether real or perceived), then insists we need them to protect us... all for a small fee, of course.  Just give up our privacy, liberties, and money and we'll be safe and secure.  Perfection of the protection racket.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:46 | 3667882 Ignatius
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First off, I'll guess he'll be lying.  Second, the Constitution codifies liberty, not security (security is a consequence of our unity in liberty).  Third, how many people will be set up by the gathering of this information to be used as leverage against opponents?  Those with access to this information have extreme power at their disposal.

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:49 | 3668018 upWising
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First off, WE ALL KNOW he will be lying.  

[No charge for that small repair job to your comment.]

 

 

(Even those who swim in the KoolAid will have their credibiiity stretched by this show. These "leaders" have become a parody of themselves. Popcorn on sale 2 for 1)

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:36 | 3667953 Stoploss
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Now it's clear, it is make it up as you go, time.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:00 | 3668336 NotApplicable
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Hey, it's only gotta sound plausible long enough until the memory-hole gobbles it up.

My guess is something big breaks in Syria soon, and we'll all just have to "get over it" while "supporting our troops."

I can only be happy the election cycle is over for now, as it at least minimizes the grandstanding.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:54 | 3668056 CrashingDollars
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Two FBI-originated plots foiled?  That just makes me so eager to trade away all my rights

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:47 | 3668827 sgt_doom
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Yo, Gen. Alexander, thanx for that super job in warning us about the attacks of 9/11.

Oopsy, blew that out your ass, also, huh?

Yup, got a great record there Gen. A for asshole, remember your position during the Iraqi war, dood?

Blew that one out of your ass, also, sonny!

Ignorance is a choice in the age of the Internet ! ! !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hnMPQmIPibE

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:13 | 3667794 the not so migh...
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The General is full of shit

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:20 | 3667837 EscapeKey
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Yes, ok, I lied to you. And then I failed to tell the truth. After which, I might have committed light treason.

And then I lied to you about that. But I swear, 

this time I tell the truth.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:25 | 3667874 DaveyJones
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light treason -  all the flavor of treason with one third the interest on money

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:31 | 3667923 tarsubil
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These are those lies that aren't meant to be plausible. They are those desperate lies given to people who don't want to believe the truth.

"Honest, honey, I got syphillis from a public bathroom. I'm just incredibly unlucky."

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:02 | 3668352 NotApplicable
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Ranks right up there with cunnilingus cancer.

I wonder how Hillary's prevented it all of these years?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:22 | 3668742 Herd Redirectio...
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I think its Huma thats in danger, not Hillary.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:27 | 3667869 tarsubil
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What I would give to punch this guy in the jaw. Total liar. Do you think he's biased? If they end the program, his career is over. Again, what about the Boston Marathon? Talk about not connecting the dots.

This was approved by all branches of the government. That does not give violation of privacy and the 4th amendment legitimacy. The approval of violation of the 4th amendment by the entire government removes any legitimacy of the executive, legislative and judicial branches.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:05 | 3668374 NotApplicable
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Congratulations! "You're now free to move about the country."

The sad thing is that the idea that this criminal cartel ever had any "legitimacy" to begin with.

Just ask JFK.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 13:02 | 3668660 monad
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just following orders

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:14 | 3667807 cherry picker
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I remember Colin Powell's speach about the WMD's in Iraq.  It was as plain as the nose on his face he didn't even believe it.

These guys take orders.  They will lie in the name of Patriotism.  I wouldn't believe a word he says, as he is just following orders.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:58 | 3668088 Intoxicologist
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+1

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:07 | 3668382 NotApplicable
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Also, one does not make it to general without congressional support. So they are ALL thoroughly compromised by the time they make it to the top.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:21 | 3668189 Al Huxley
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Patriotism my ass.  I'm so fucking tired of hearing all these fucking morons calling into talk shows and saying 'well, I trust my government, and if this is what they need to do to stop terrorists, then I guess it's the price we all have to pay'.  REALLY, really?  So if they tell us we all need to bend over so they can fuck us up the ass 'to prevent terrorism, then that's ok too?  Anything to keep us safe?  Stupid fuckers.  Every day I get a much deeper appreciation of all the meaning behind the term 'sheeple'.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:05 | 3668372 Herd Redirectio...
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I always figure, it would help if people were told something like the NSA spying is happening SOMEWHERE ELSE.  Like, if we told people "The Soviet Union is spying on its own people using the (soviet equivalent) NSA, and justify it by saying they are spied on for their own good"

Or "The Nazis spied on their citizens, and said it was so that they could protect them better.  In fact, the spying was a precursor to labelling and eliminating 'enemies of the state'"

Then... Maybe... Maybe... They would get it.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 14:46 | 3668411 Winston Smith 2009
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Do what I do.  Turn off the light, take a deep breath, relax, and listen to this.  Realize that there's absolutely nothing you can do individually when surrounded by sheeple, so why blow an artery over it:

Enigma - Back to the Rivers of Belief

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMwBm1vjmzY

Great song, BTW.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:14 | 3667809 TLT
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"Terrorists", "harm to americans"...

Same shit, different day.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:31 | 3667921 DaveyJones
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no, ham to america

and blessed are the cheesemakers

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:15 | 3667812 espirit
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Foiled is the word?  Collateral damage is a bitch.

Hellfire away!

http://news.yahoo.com/gas-explosion-washington-parish-louisiana-sheriff-121920142.html

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:35 | 3667949 SMG
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Missles against our own citizens.  Truth is a bitter pill.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:17 | 3667813 SheepDog-One
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All he needs is an eye patch and he'd look just like Colonel Klink! ZEIG HEIL motherfuckers!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:16 | 3667815 Honey Badger
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He is going to tell a bunch of secrets, that have recently been declassified, to justify why they keep all those secrets. 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:35 | 3667946 DaveyJones
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you see class, if we don't break every rule in the book, we're vulnerable to people who break every rule in the book

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:16 | 3667817 What you talkin...
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Well now that everything is clear, full rectal search, why not, my asshole has always wanted to be a freedom fighter.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:35 | 3667950 Fuku Ben
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I'll have a present ready and waiting for them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFLw8aH-M2w

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:36 | 3667957 DaveyJones
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yeah, what is it about assholes and freedom fighters?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:16 | 3667818 Dr. Engali
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I have it on good authority that the capabilities the NSA has now could have prevented the CIA from committing 911.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:30 | 3667910 JustObserving
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Heck, even the FBI could have prevented 9/11:

revelations from a number of government personnel that strongly indicate official complicity in the attacks, such as that provided by (among others) Robert Wright and Colleen Rowley (both at the time of the FBI), as well as then-Counsel for the US House of Representatives David Schippers, who reports that a dozen FBI agents approached him five weeks before 9/11 with detailed and specific information regarding the impending terror attacks which, according to Schippers, the agents claimed they were being thwarted from preventing by superiors who’d threatened them with reprimand and prosecution under the National Security Act should they pursue their investigations further.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:32 | 3667936 Ignatius
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The 'official narrative' of 9/11 fails from every angle.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:09 | 3668396 NotApplicable
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Needs more magic bullet points.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:57 | 3668076 upWising
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Plausible deniability.

Undisclosed secure location.

Continuity of Government.

My Little Goat.

Keep Shopping.

Take Off Your Shoes.

Faith In The System.

They Hate Us For Our Freedom.

Mission Accomplished.

 

(Did I forget anything?)

 

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:31 | 3667922 Ignatius
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Nice.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:44 | 3667997 Fuku Ben
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The alphabet agencies could have all stopped each other from participating in the event. But they were too busy assisting the actors, spying on each other and working with Congress to make money on insider trading from the attacks.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:16 | 3667819 LawsofPhysics
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Remember Ruby Ridge!  That was supposedly a "terrorist plot" as well.  A man selling a single shotgun illegally, the FBI kills his entire family, nice work morons.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:28 | 3667887 cherry picker
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Don't forget Waco.

I remember seeing the charred bodies of children.  I guess they were just collateral damage.

We should implement gun and weapon control for governments, they are just too immature to use them properly.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:44 | 3668001 FeralSerf
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ATF said it was necessary to kill those kids because they were being molested. (A fate worse than death?)

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:53 | 3668053 ejmoosa
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It was for their own good that they used flame inducing items on a windy day.  Janet Reno and Bill Clinton had to show the American people they both had balls.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:48 | 3668300 kridkrid
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It was a simple test/conditioning.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:11 | 3668407 NotApplicable
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A.k.a. "how hard is it to dehumanize children so that their deaths at our hands do not matter to the public?"

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:15 | 3668443 Herd Redirectio...
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Ruby Ridge

Waco

OKC (crucial precursor)

USS Cole (crucial precursor)

African Embassy Bombings (crucial precursor)

Did I miss anything?  If we broaden the scope, we can add Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs, the Reichstag fire (Operation Paperclip means at least a portion of the Nazis involved came over to the States)

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:17 | 3667822 The Gooch
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Just like BOSTON!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:22 | 3667860 EscapeKey
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Boston happened because their surveillance isn't quite sufficient and extensive.

They *need* to cram that microphone up your ass to keep your children secure, dammit.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:33 | 3667934 WAMO556
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Actually, BOSTON was allowed to happen.

The Russians told the US about the TSERNAEV being a terrorist.

The real story is that the FSB pointed out TSERNAEV in order to blow a American intelligence network, which Tamerlane was part of, kinda like those American "rebels" in Syria.

What better way of getting rid of a manufactured terrorist then to PHOTOSHOP all of the videos and photos and then have law enforcement flex their muscles domestically. Shutting down BOSTON was a "show of force"

Kinda like the G8 saying they going to hunt down tax evaders.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:40 | 3667975 Ignatius
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The Tsernaev brothers were patsies IMHO.  They show evidence of them at the scene, but they never showed them setting down the bombs (which was reported and then admitted that he -- Mayor? -- had NOTACTUALLY SEEN the video of).  Then there's the 'shoot outs' that DID NOT HAPPEN, and the 7-11 robbery THAT THEY DID NOT DO, etc..  Now the kid is supposedly writing confessions WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN.

Corruption rules, unfortunately.

The kid/friend in Florida was executed most likely.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 11:59 | 3668332 Bastiat
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Don't forget to two FBI agents, involved in the arrest, who fell out of the helicopter. 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:18 | 3667825 pods
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So they will now let us in on two plots that weren't sexy enough to be released previously?

I'm sure they will not release the accidental arrest of the FBI "handlers" in them either. 
That would just not look good.

pods 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:45 | 3668003 ejmoosa
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Perhaps one was Benghazi....

 

Oh wait.  nevermind....

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:19 | 3667830 Cocomaan
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Why the fuck would we believe him?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:25 | 3667881 insanelysane
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We once did a mock trial in college to "convict" someone of not partying enough.

Evidence:  The beer they didn't drink, the sheet they didn't wear as a toga, pictures of parties that didn't have the defendant even though they were at the party just not in the picture.

 

This general is going to show us bridges that are still standing thanks to the government and buildings that aren't destroyed as proof of foiled plots.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 12:01 | 3668339 kill switch
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You don't have to, just the idiots who watch CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBS, FOX Fair and fucking balanced, BBC 1,2,3,4,5, Reuters....AOL, GMA, Huffington Post....You get the idea they know that information outlets in the alternative media are generally ignored as wackos and wing nuts. It’s real simple no hop here.

Yes the awakening is happening but at a dangerously slow pace.. And how will Amerika mobilize, crack your jaw on that one....

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:20 | 3667833 Vooter
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL...this is fucking great. Circle the drain, America!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:47 | 3668015 Uncle Remus
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The whole world's flushing.

The whole world's flushing.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:57 | 3668065 tip e. canoe
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that's an awesome remix of The Whole World is Watching.

never liked that chant, as it implies the opposite, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHED, as we are witnessing right now.

nice one Remus...new meme?

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:20 | 3667834 docj
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Gee, I wonder if anyone was prosecuted for these two "foiled" terrorist attacks. I mean, before today, that is.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:49 | 3668011 DaveyJones
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you see it's a lot like banking. The govt creates, relies upon, and works with these entities to control the populace. prosecuting them would fuck all of that up. Instead they prefer to jail innocent sheep herders outside the country, torture their genitals and never take them to trial 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:20 | 3667836 NoTTD
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As usual, the end justifies any means.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:21 | 3667846 Richard Whiskey
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Only reason they are failed terrorist plots was because the FEDs planned it.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:21 | 3667848 SheepDog-One
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Hey General Alexander...FUCK U! 

Go data mine that you nazi!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:21 | 3667849 IdeasRbulletproof
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Well, there was this one time at band camp...

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:22 | 3667855 Uncle Remus
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Dog & pony show. Or is that Tijuana donkey show.

Gullible States of Amerika.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:22 | 3667857 Richard Head
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Hey Alexander, you fucking worm traitor: what part of UNCONSTITUTIONAL don't you understand?  If you still don't get it by now, you need to hang. P.S. Fuck the entire NSA.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:26 | 3667885 Richard Whiskey
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You're a dick head.

Guess that makes me a dick liquor.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:24 | 3667868 yepyep
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fuck this guy, watching this cocksucker wipe his ass with the constitution sickens me

 

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:24 | 3667870 buzzsaw99
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That maggot couldn't foil his own ass.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:43 | 3667993 Uncle Remus
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Paging Barney Frank. Please pick up a white courtesy phone. Bitch.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:24 | 3667872 Shizzmoney
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RE

Alas, preventing the Boston Bombing is not among such examples.

Right, so is stopping rampant Chicago gang violence.  But hey, we arrested some Occupiers, bagged up some Tea Party groups, and ensured the Big Banks and the Corportized Miltary Complex is not just intact, but stronger!

"But hey, there was that ONE time we stopped some random brown person (who we probably set up)!"

Makes you wonder who the REAL terrorists are.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:43 | 3667991 The Gooch
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The Gangster Disciples got their 501c3!

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:44 | 3668000 Uncle Remus
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You could sing that to the EBT song.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:46 | 3668010 Uncle Remus
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Makes you wonder who the REAL terrorists are.

Only if you're not paying attention.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:49 | 3668030 FeralSerf
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I haven't wondered who the REAL terrorists are since 9/11.

Tue, 06/18/2013 - 10:25 | 3667876 yepyep
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and james cole jumps in for some added value, lying fuck.

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