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NSA Director To Disclose Two Foiled Terrorist Plots To Diffuse PRISM-Gate Fallout - Live Webcast
Starting momentarily, the Director of the National Security Agency, General Keith Alexander, will again testify on the Hill, this time before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence about the value of the NSA surveillance program and the extent of the damage caused by leaks of top secret data. More importantly, as CNN reports, he is expected to reveal two previously classified cases in which secret surveillance programs thwarted terrorist plots. Supposedly this is to demonstrate that "inconveniencing" the general public by quietly taking over its privacy in order to preserve its "security", has positive results as well. Alas, preventing the Boston Bombing is not among such examples.
Watch it live after the jump at C-Span 3.
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The first one was a plot involving Mickey Mouse and the second one was a plot involving the tooth fairy.
just needed some time to make 2 of the stories up...
trust in your government =corporate
Agree, find cases that can be tangentially linked to Prism and build a story! They wouldn't want to lose those Billions in tax dollars!
Hell! I am sure the entire NSA was all hands on deck for the last week building stories and justification.
General Keith "Camel Nose" Alexander:
"We read your emails, and loved the pictures of your naked Wife she sent while on your trip, and your love letters to each other. BTW - we prevented Ahkmed from blowing off his foot in the Denver airport so we're all good, right?"
America! Fuck Yeah!
And about a week after this revelation, we will all know that these were FBI inspired plots an PRISM really had nothing to do with resolving them. We will once again be assured that all these fkrs do is tell lies.
Shouldn't some of the tags for this post be
"national insecurity"
"police state"
"1984"
"Orwell"
"lies"
"actors"
yep, they foiled the terrorist plot to: sell raw milk, sell organic food, people wearing nra t-shirts, j walkers, and rain water thieves! great work idiots!
you see money falls from the sky, not water
I guess John Corzine's phone was secure.
much like corzine himself, they couldnt recall.
Yeah, I foiled a couple of plots too. I think my wife foiled three. Not sure about the dog.
Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick. That's one. Don't know what the other one will be.
it's more catch up than mustard
Probably collected some overtime for putting the final touches on the presentation.
And might even get a pay rise if the spin doctoring goes down well.
What's the point of all these so-called hearings when NO ONE ever answers the questions they are asked and just gives plenty of mumbo jumbo as response. Fraud!
DONT YOU RETARD DEBT SERFS GET IT, WE TOTALLY USE A COURT FOR THIS SHIT.
STRICT CONTROLS!! HELLO THERES CHECKS BALANCES OVERSIGHTS AND ITS BEEN PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE SINCE 1984
JUST CAUSE YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE SECRET COURT THAT WE ARE ONLY DISCUSSING BECAUSE WE GOT BUSTED DOESNT MEAN THAT IT ISNT OF THE HIGHEST INTEGRITY OK.
SO STOP QUESTIONING POWER AND GO BACK TO PAYING OUR TAXES SO WE CAN GET OUR DATACENTRE IN UTAH FINISHED.
And their super-secret court only has a conviction rate a few percent higher than the normal federal courts, so everything is OK...
(since their "open" courts achieve 97-98% conviction rates because the .gov employees are so "skilled" at their jobs)
So it took them 2 weeks to assemble a convincing lie? LOL.
My bullshit detector is in the RED.
It wasn't convincing.
You know what? Grossly unconstitutional and highly illegal programs like PRISM, the Patiot Act, and so on might be worthwhile if they could stop the thousands of annual deaths caused by the REAL TERRORISTS... drunk driving illegal aliens.
Billions of dollars and billions of privacy invasions for what? To stop two measly terror attacks? You have a far better chance of getting killed by a drunk driving illegal alien than you do dying in a terror attack.
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/21940500/2013/04/11/defendant-in-milford-death-ruled-incompetent
You have a shotgun and a shovel? This is America, take the initiative.
+1 for the Toadie. He was a scholar and a gentleman.
YOU! YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN NOT HIDE! Arrrrrgh!
The end result: nothing changes, the "two party dictatorship" continues along the same path of sacrificing the rights of the Serfs in exchange for the promise of security against contrived terrorist threats.
They are the terrorists.
J
Freedom isn't Free.
I would rather die in a plane, a high rise, by pressure cooker bomb - than relinquish my liberty, my rights, my Constitution.
STOP RAPING THE FIRST AND FOURTH AMENDMENT AND DEBASING THE REPUBLIC YOU FUCKING TYRANTS!
Ok, I got this plan. We will invade the privacy of 300 million citizens like a billion times. And we will foil two plots that would not have worked at all.
Yeah...that is a good use of our resources.
But we won't track where the people most likely to be terrorists are worshipping because, you know, they have rights.
I love my country. I hate my government.
So you think the "terrorists" are Muslim?
How's the kool-aide?
I always wondered why we didn't just cut off the Taliban's source of funds - opium poppies, opium, heroine (mostly heroine). Cut down the poppy fields, monitor the borders and bank accounts.
Nope! Boots on the ground for what, 10+ years now? All to facilitate (!) the production (and transport) of opiates. America, the leading per capita user of opiates (legal and illegal) in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Hammer#Hammer.27s_association_with_t...
The terror plots we foil are many, to disclose the nature of them is a state secret.
The ones we sponsor are paraded on the global stage for all to see and turned into National Security policy.
http://intellihub.com/2013/06/11/dhs-admits-boston-training-drill-involv...
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EjdP-g0Z_r0
..
Why are there ALWAYS drills happening at the same time as terrorist attacks?
The answer: Plausible deniability. If you (mercenary/intel operative) are somehow caught, with you were part of a legit training exercise. Simple as that.
Inject confusion to act out a real op's undetected or no serious suspicions raised untill it's too late.
Percieved threat slipped through the training boundry screen, but transpondering "friendly" or mimics all other drill aircraft radar signatures.
Hostle threat detected just on the observation of entering restricted airspace but uncertain to order leathal engagement over populated cities = created doubt and caused apprehension now realizing the potential of colladeral damage too late monitoring radar blips in the fog of uncertainty.
Real world melded with training exersise creates misdirection and total chaos. You have to be in-the-loop to pull this training exersise gone live to control the narrative and ultimate objective of the dual operation.
Example:
Operation Northwoods.
22 similar planes in the same drill airspace, 4 will seperate and become real threats, 18 participants still roll playing are "friendlies" your decision how many are off mission to be engaged as a confirmed threat or if their intentions are hostile to begin with.
Feelin luckey? Norman Minetta did, and his judgment call was ignored by the acting NORAD director just for the day Dick Cheney.
9-11-2001
Bully to them for such great work. What these asshats do not get is that it doesnt matter if we stopped all the fucking plots ever conceived by the twisted minds of deranged fucking psychopaths. You do not trade your liberty for security. I cancelled my WSJ subscription because they are unbelievable apologists for and supporters of the surveillance state. Fuck em.
They keep everything secret, then dribble out "facts" useful to them. Screw that. Reveal everything, and let us decide what is important. Aren't we grownups?
Most American adults are decidedly *not* grownups at all.
this outside of US bullshit fucks me off so hard as well, what about your allies you fucking dogs.
Australia followed you lying dogs into every illegitmate war since ww2 and this is how you treat us.
fuck you
Make sure you understand this: we aren't doing this. At the end of WW2 these guys retrieved the plans of the 3rd reich and decided to execute them themselves - against everyone, foreign and domestic. This is the installation of a ruling overclass identical to what the Normans did to Europe a thousand years ago. Exactly what Hitler had planned, only with no allied partners.
The irony is that they despise those willing to betray their own people for material gain - their minions, including the entire federal government - as much as we do.
Prescott Bush... Trading w/ the enemy? (Is the Scherff story disinfo or legit, is the question here)
GHW Bush... Was basically one of the founders of the CIA.
Operation Paperclip...
http://tarpley.net/
They are declassifying two things for political purposes. Just like what a whistleblower would do.
There are thousands of miles of undefended rail line in this country--that aren't being compromised to cause derailments. Why? BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FUCKING TERRORISTS!
So I should worry about some small group of aggrieved individuals who *might* do something wrong, but I should be totally unconcerned about a very large group of unhinged individuals who *absolutely* do things wrong every day--and force me to pay for it?
If advertisers by information about me at the rate of about 1000 per penny (see, that's how much it's worth to them...), the worst they're likely to do if put an annoying ad on a webpage I look at. If the government does it they very likely have other idea in mind.
It probably also never occurred to these knuckleheads, and most of the blue pill-swilling citizenry that supports them, that if we weren't running around the world blowing stuff up and merdering people in industrial quantities, then maybe we'd have less problems.
Huh. But then aggregate demand would go down and the people that need to be in front of camera wouldn't be seen to be doing anything constructive--or even necessary. Can't have that now, can we?
Don't forget the high voltage power lines and towers, often in isolated areas.
NSA: Don't drone me for bringing it up, the idea has been around for a long time.
That used to be a common target of the Corsican separatists.
"It probably also never occurred to these knuckleheads, and most of the blue pill-swilling citizenry that supports them, that if we weren't running around the world blowing stuff up and merdering people in industrial quantities"
No, But HAS occurred to them that if they did that THEY'D BE OUT OF A JOB.
Quesiton Answered.
let me guess who the plotters are: borderline retards with no money, no contacts, no life, no weapons entrapped by an FBI agent?
senators?
FY Keith!
Meanwhile at the state department
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/17/exclusive_whistleblower_says_state_department_trying_to_bully_her_into_silence
Hang the State dept
It seems to me that calling a young man who has exposed massive 1st and 4th Amendment violations against its own citizens a "traitor" is akin to attacking the cop who tried to arrest the culprits who are stalking your family.
We absolutely need a fresh, independent, full-supoena investigation of 9/11. Only when more real Truth about that day emerges, will the rollback of the Patriot Act and a multitude of other over-reaching absurdies be repealed.
Hang this traitor.
I vote for the guillotine, but a rope will work in a pinch.
Waterboarding will work too.
Why doesn't anyone support the draw and quarter method anymore?
We are more humanitarian now.
To overcome this goverment you don't need weapons. Just refuse to consum for a year or two.
here we go, wheel out the random terror plot scenarios and sprinkle a few muslim sounding names about that should appease them.
if the ny stock exchange got bombed and financial information was lost that would probably work as debt relief for the US at this point.
it's cue the squirrels time for sure. don't even have to listen to the testimony to predict that one.
Based upon the opening statements, the programs seem to be well reasoned and with appropriate safeguards (stay with me, folks!).
If these programs are as described then why is Mr. Snowden referred to as a 'traitor?"
It should be clear to all that we will hear 'half-truths' and "least untruthful" answers all day today.
Credibility and trust are GONE. i will reasonably assume that moving lips means that someone is lying...how can you trust anything that comes out of the mouth someone who lies as a profession?
where is clapper today, he could really assist with the least untruthful parts here
He's reading out of Brad Thor book. Plagarist!!
Just more lies from a guillotine eligible cocksucker?!
Airing on the Cocksuckers channel (CSPAN).
FU NSA
FU alex u Godless pagan weasel
FREE BRADLEY MANNING
Uh, FBI orchestrated sting operations used to set-up and ensnare stupid people don't cut it. More people die from slipping and falling in the bathtub and from being shot by police than from terror attacks. Shove your fearmongering BS up your wazoo.
Please, Jeezus, let one of the "dozens" be an FBI entrapment case. PLEASE, Jeezus. Answer my prayers. I need the bullshit swirl ice cold today.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/obama-im-not-dick-cheney-92925.htm...
Even better. "I'm not Cheney", Obama.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. And the White House thinks this is great stuff. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Thanks for setting us straight by banging out an interview with soft baller Charlie Rose.
Tyler,
I would be interested in seeing statistical evidence of daily shootings of citizens by police, throughout the USA.
Rather curious.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=daily+shootings+of+citizens+by+police
ruppersberger is a real piece of shit too.
"checks and balances are what we do in this country".
LOL, what a fucking blowhard.
I bet PRISM misses all the terrorists who slide in under refugee status here and not only that the immigration system will miss them also. You know what comes next MOAR government to keep us safe. You see now the other half the Marxist Oreo's plan to muslimize Amerika being implemented goes hand and hand with the MIC complex to bring holy war to local middle class suburb near you and in turn more militarization of homeland forces. This where the Communist Marxist types in the Bush/Cheney uSSa Amerika intersect with the Fabian Socialist Muslim friendly Obama/Jarrett/Holder UssA Amerika.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obama-brings-10000-syrians-to-a...
Someone has to blow up the buildings that Americans won’t blow up.
Why extend TPS to a date two years from now when we have no idea whether the Syrian Civil War will last that long? Because TPS is effectively infinite.
Remember these things always start small........
Re NSA Director To Disclose Two Foiled Terrorists...
And, for all of you naysayers, here they are:
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-foil-hat.jpg?3d6f98
So far, everything I've seen is nothing but a political act of bukkake with the NSA and it's henchmen.
No way they could ever make up something like two foiled attacks......No way that could happen.
whoops!
The clown in the funny suit is a paid liar. Why should anyone believe him?
Only people and organizations that have something to hide keep secrets. Obviously the NSA has something to hide and it is not all of the wonderful things they are doing to make this a BETTER country.
NSA Public Service Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4z09el30f8
the attacks they foiled were probably planned by some other gubbermint agency.
So where are the people who were arrested?
Folks this is OT but relative. On another thread I had posted about a conversation on a landline then getting a banner ad relative to the conversation here.
After having refilled a formulary prescription OL (https) I now get banners for the generic.
Neither of these incidents had anything to do with a search on any engine.
These gawdamn MF's are ruthless.
OK, just got off the horn with a friend that was talking to an acquaintance about setting up a trust. Shortly after he had that conversation (landline), he got a call from an attorney for a FREE consult.
I shudder at what's next.
A D B L O C K
F L A S H B L O C K
You're welcome. (not trying to be a prick)
With the info originating on a landline conversation, I find it to be a bit more insidious. Yes, adblock & flashblock will take care of the banner, but the information that's being sold is originating in Telco not a web search.
What baffles me is that anyone still believes these liars.
These Gubmint goon-types have been slapping my balls for years because I won't let them irradiate me and view images of me nude.
Now it has been fully exposed to all that they have been spying on us all for years. Like that is OK, no big deal.
And now this Goon Leader will present some bogus evidence intended to frighten me and show me why I should be pleased that they have been doing this.
They want one thing,
c o n t r o l,
and if we continue to let them pursue the course they are on, we, and our offspring, will be controlled, and probably worse.
I think it is getting to be high time to surround the WH and Capitol with a citzen army of 'standing men' to let the goons know that we resist and that their time is up.
NSA Stopping Terrorists reminds me of a Joke Dean Martin used to tell how Frank Sinatra saved his life.
Dean said: "I got pulled in the ally and two or three thugs were beating the snot out of me and then, I heard Franks voice say"..... "Ok, He's Had enough"
Frank saved my life....
i suppose the answer is classified, but i am guessing at least one of the foiled attacks was a false flag, US or Israel led plot, or at least an FBI sting that got away from them, more fastly and more furiously than ever before...
Anyone that takes this shite for reals, needs a lobotomy.
There is one true way to be safe in the USA. Fire these assholes!
they really flogging a dead horse on this shit to ram the message home to the sheep.
took a minute away from the hearing to read a few comments, what a load of BS from people who haven't listened to the real BS on the hill. These are the worst comments i've read on ZH.
Hundreds of thousands of citizens protesting all over the world! Sooner rather than later, the crowds will no longer dissipate. Massive unarmed crowds will simply consume smaller armed groups as if it were the sea swallowing them up. The boiling point of having nothing else to lose is approaching at breakneck speed.
Imagine if the Redcoats could have tracked Paul Revere's contacts and correspondence. We'd all be speaking English today.
Imagine if Germany could have tracked German-to-Jew contacts, even without direct server access. Anne Frank's diary would have been a short story.
On one hand, the danger of privacy invasion does not have as much downside as it did 50 or 100 years ago. People used to die, lose social standing, or have their ability to make a living destroyed for pot smoking, inter-racial dating, having a child out of wedlock, being gay, cross-dressing, etc.
On the other hand, concentrating power of the data sort or any sort has always resulted in abuse.
Meta data is pretty absolute fishing power .. and we know what absolute power does.
There's this belligerent foreign enemy combatant in the Whitehouse and an army of 60 million foreign criminals squatting in America for the entire duration of your career, General Shamelessfuck. Impress me. Do your job or find a hole for your posterity.
Scrotum sac conference. Right nut <> meets left nut. {procede to scratch crabs off}.
Children of Abraham don't worship in a MosQue
So they were tapping everybody's phone everywhere around the world but did not listen to actual phonecalls they got from the Russians warning about these Chechen guys in Boston.
Sorry but 200, or 2 million foiled plots wouldnt't, and can't, magically transmute something that's unethical into something that is. Consider the reason for the terrorism, and realize you are being taken for a ride by people with nothing but contempt for you.
Partial hang out and dog-wagging in progress. Nothing to see here.
Do I hear 3 foiled plots,
If they put half the money this is taking and put it into cancer research, road safely, how many more lives could have been saved.
Arrest him for treason for covering up for Cheney and Holder. Arrest him for lying. GITMO his ass under NDAA. I never asked for his fucking help. He's a sorry sack of shit in human form.
Ref: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-180613.html "The making of a gobal security gate" by Tom Engelhardt 6/18/13
Lies, lies and more lies
I saw mommy kissing Santa Clause
Facing a funding shortfall, SETI just disclosed they have prevented six alien invasions.