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Obama Explains In Germany Why The NSA Is Eavesdropping On Germans - Live Webcast

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50 years ago to the week, when JFK spoke in Berlin, his speech made history. Today, the US president is in Germany again... and in a far less historic and moving speech is scrambling to explain why the NSA is listening to and recording all German communications. Watch it live below.

 

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Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:11 | 3670671 Richard Whiskey
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It's all a conspiracy till some one blows the whistle.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:14 | 3670676 Rubicon
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Is that guilt written all across his face?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:25 | 3670700 therearetoomany...
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Are you kidding, guilt?  This guy is a sociopath. 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:33 | 3670721 Mae Kadoodie
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Uhh...Uhh...Uhhh...I can't stand to listen to this guy's elocution.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:48 | 3670753 philipat
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Ich bin ein Beginner...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:13 | 3670796 Badabing
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Deutsch Mädchen lieben schwarze Männer.
sie sagen, dass sie gut schmecken als gehackte broc Schlimmste!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:18 | 3670810 Joe Sixpack
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"Ich Lie."

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:12 | 3670952 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The fucker's late in every time zone.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:25 | 3671234 eclectic syncretist
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Did he really just say "Under my leadership our Neo-Nazi Spying on Americans (NSA) program has been extended globally and we now have permanent records of every electronic transaction or public activity you have every been involved in".

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:47 | 3671310 Hard1
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Ich bin ein Spion!  (oh, and Greetings to all my readers at the NSA)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:51 | 3670883 Jim in MN
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Ich bin ein Stasiweasel.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:35 | 3671044 Paveway IV
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If you cannot trust ...the US government ...then we've got a problem

 

Welcome to Camp FEMA

STAZI MACHT FREI

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:30 | 3670711 Sudden Debt
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It's the hand in his ass playing his mouth that you see

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:45 | 3670749 francis_sawyer
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It's the dick in his ass playing his mouth...

~~~

Fixed it...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:00 | 3670777 negative rates
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That's some deep thinking there, George.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:24 | 3670823 francis_sawyer
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"Obama" & "deep thinking" don't often collide in the same sentence...

~~~

It compels a person to 'reach' for meaning [wherever that 'reach' may take you]...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 11:05 | 3671352 JOYFUL
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Sometimes it's necessary to step outside the confines of the shadow-puppet theatre in order to begin to remember what the real world sounds like...

if you live somewhere in Gulagistan[Merika and the rest of the Zatonic satropies]... it's absolutely essential.

 

http://rt.com/news/putin-rt-interview-full-577// Putin speaks... the interview is jaw-dropping...

for the contrast in coherency... authentic engagment... and honest presentation. If you still need some kind of 'proof' that your 'leaders'... ever since about... 1963 let's say...

are nothin but long-nosed... wooden replicas of the original Pinnochio... dancing on the strings of their sio-nazi puppeteers!

watch\read\listen to this interview. The contrast is dumbfounding!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 07:26 | 3674559 tip e. canoe
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fascinating interview, thanks J

that history lesson at around 20:00 is epic.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:43 | 3670743 Bokkenrijder
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Don't expect Zee Germans to make a stand, they're used to raising their right arm (or the left arm during the DDR days) and accept whatever The Powers That Be say what is good for them!

JAWOHL, Befehl ist Befehl!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:23 | 3670820 Reptil
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pfff the german people are wiser at the moment than the dutch here, who still see nothing wrong with the total surveilance state.

time to move the farm.... but... where to? it's all turning to shit. Mars?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:42 | 3670855 Kinskian
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The last people to make a stand for Western Civilization were the Germans and their European allies.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:57 | 3670902 Reptil
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I think they were just as much fooled by the very same people (heads of corporations) as are our comtemporary fellow citizens.
The Nazis lost, fascism (the merger of corporations and state) won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFy4aYmXiqA
And now it's come full circle, with Obama visiting Berlin.
Last time he was there, just before he was made President, people were hopeful, until the moment Obama told them the US Gov. will enforce the corporations.
Anyone with a brain right there and then already knew what was up.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:13 | 3670672 GetZeeGold
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Obama looks like he caught some sun over there.

 

He looks good!

 

Something about perpetual war and arming terrorists that eat human flesh.....it's all very confusing.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:17 | 3670681 Richard Whiskey
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He can get all the sun there is, he's still the whitest black man.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:32 | 3670716 Sudden Debt
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Obama is MULTICOLORAL!!

Black for the race card

White for his friends

Yellow for the Arabs

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:50 | 3670756 francis_sawyer
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Don't forget the Purple lips for all the goths & trannies...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:01 | 3670758 philipat
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MultiCOLONal?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:52 | 3670886 Jim in MN
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Multicolonial

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:13 | 3670675 Richard Whiskey
Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:22 | 3670695 smacker
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.......................Explosive breaking news methinks..............

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:28 | 3670832 BandGap
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The physics of the debris pattern didn't lie. All you have to do is generate a scenario where a missile strike hits the left forward spar of the plane and it all makes perfect sense.

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:38 | 3671068 kridkrid
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A load of shit from the very beginning, but just another example of what power can get away with "defer to authority". Of course the lead investigators are "impartial"... their interest is science, after all. And how many people, exactly, would have to be "in on the cover-up". No... if after their lengthy investigation, the flight went down due to a plane malfunction, it went down due to a plane malfunction. Just like 9/11, just like JFK, etc.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:14 | 3670678 achmachat
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lol @ "...as we defeat Al Qaeda..." 

just who are you planning to arm in Syria again?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:16 | 3670680 Richard Whiskey
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The same freedom fighters they armed not to long ago.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:18 | 3670685 GetZeeGold
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Did you eat the sprinkles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC1ZO3_clAI

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:34 | 3670722 Sudden Debt
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And also why they're having peace talks with the Taliban on their turf...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:15 | 3670679 BeetleBailey
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What a cunt this piece of shit is.....

Frau Merkel looks bloated....

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:19 | 3670684 smacker
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...too many double helpings of cheese :-)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:34 | 3670724 Sudden Debt
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She's German

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:55 | 3670765 francis_sawyer
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The Germans are just worried that it will 'leak out' that all their top leaders are heavily into watersports...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:17 | 3670682 smacker
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Some nice placards on show in Berlin accompanied by Obama's photo:

 

                                 "Yes We Scan"

                      "I Have A Drone"

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:26 | 3670704 Bearwagon
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"All I have to offer you is blood, sweat and drones!"

"I have a dream – that my two little children will one day live in a world where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their email!"

"Eeech been aayn Belohner!" (Belohnung = reward)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:18 | 3670683 dariomilano
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embarrassed on Syria and Russia in front of Merkel?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:19 | 3670688 Bearwagon
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Merkel to Obama: "I'm really not that fond of all these e-mail surveillances ..."

Obama to Merkel: "Yeah, I already knew that!"

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:38 | 3670730 Sudden Debt
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didn't your wife just text you that you have to go pick up the kids?

forgot again he? jujst like yesterday...

I already told you she was mailing with her mother about a divorce!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:20 | 3670689 Catullus
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"We're doing it to protect America, uh, I mean, we're fighting a 'Global' war on terrorism"

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:38 | 3670734 CHX
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Right, a global war [based] on (global = foreign and domestic) terrorism. So true. Everyone in line, bend over, and pass me the lube please, will ya? 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:20 | 3670691 lindaamick
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Liar in Chief.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:31 | 3670712 RideTheWalrus
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Al Kiada & Terry Wrist = Emmanuel Goldstein

For the late comers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:20 | 3670692 Cdad
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Thanks Tyler.  For a second there, I thought I was going to have to start my day listening to Ken Langone [who is trotted out quarterly on The BlowHorn to be an apologist for the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street].

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:22 | 3670696 Quinvarius
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Obama really fell short of his promises and American values.  What a disgrace.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:37 | 3670731 shovelhead
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It was the best an Indonesian could do...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:25 | 3670702 therearetoomany...
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Is this 'show' still on?  I though it wasn't renewed for this season?!?!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:56 | 3670764 TuesdayBen
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Vote> Better POTUS: Obama
Vote> Better POTUS: C. Sheen

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:27 | 3670705 Troy Ounce
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ICH BIN EIN DUMKOPF

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:32 | 3670719 CHX
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DUMMKOPF

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:37 | 3670729 Cacete de Ouro
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Ich bin ein Eaves-Dropper...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:42 | 3670741 kralizec
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Ich bin ein douchebag.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:03 | 3670780 TuesdayBen
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Ich uhhhh bin uh uhh ein uhhh fraud.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:35 | 3670843 Zymurguy
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Ich bin ein Bush's faultenzie!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:36 | 3671050 Hulk
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Gotta love Hogan's Heroes German...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:37 | 3670732 tuttisaluti
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Dumpfbacke

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:40 | 3670737 Troy Ounce
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ICH BIN EIN GROSSER DISAPPOINTMENT

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:24 | 3670818 Troy Ounce
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ICH BIN EIN Schwarzenegger

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:28 | 3670834 tuttisaluti
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ein schwarzer neger

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:30 | 3670708 tradewithdave
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Would love to watch this, but got to run and get the engine mounts checked on the Mercedes.  You saw what happened to Michael Hastings engine when it ended up 100 yards from his fiery car crash (video here). Journalism like this is "not helpful", but I guess the guy who prints those "Maps of the Stars" for Beverly Hills will experience a Keynes broken window gain. 

 

http://tradewithdave.com/?p=17025

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:06 | 3670786 negative rates
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You expecting some kind of crash with that Mercedies?  Besides your bank account crashing along with it.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:57 | 3670898 tradewithdave
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Actually, I don't drive a Benz, but I did crash my spellchecker and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night... if that counts.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:30 | 3670709 The 22nd Prime
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Don't worry Miss Utah. Tune into an Obama speech and you look like a genius.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:31 | 3670713 therearetoomany...
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But he's such an articulate and brilliant orator. 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:05 | 3670782 lolmao500
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You misspelled actor...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:01 | 3671162 paulie
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You misspelled jackass

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:34 | 3670715 CHX
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O: "We fixed the banks, we have a much stronger banking system now than then."

Sure, and good luck with unwinding the FED's balance sheet, and not to speak of the 1+ quadrillion off-balance derivatives that are lurking in the shadow. But of course, all is well, the economy is growing, things are improving and everything is just fine in lala land. bla bla bla BS.

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:32 | 3670717 RideTheWalrus
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Not sure if they are camera flashes or cash registers when they shake hands?

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:32 | 3670718 speconomist
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Frau Merkel: Now we have ein Foto hier!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:34 | 3670723 Disenchanted
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Obama to the Germans on eavesdropping: Yes we can!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:35 | 3670726 SAT 800
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As I've said before; as a President, he'd make a perfectly good shoeshine boy.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:36 | 3670727 shovelhead
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"We are all jelly doughnuts...

You have to watch jelly doughnuts."

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:52 | 3670760 asscannon101
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"We will snatch the jelly FROM your doughnut... In a most transparent and ethical manner... Let me be clear... FIST BUMP, Michelle!!"

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:38 | 3670735 LawsofPhysics
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Personally, I am more interested in seeing how Obama explains why it is taking so long for Germany to get their gold back.

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:27 | 3671244 lakecity55
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1. they have to re-mark another country's bars with german s/n.

2. it takes a while to refine the gold from mali.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:42 | 3670742 tarsubil
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Vee vill print!!!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:46 | 3670752 lakecity55
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So, he lies in German as well as in English?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:50 | 3670757 lakecity55
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Either you huns do as I say, or I will send my AQ army to attack Berlin!

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:57 | 3670768 asscannon101
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I always thought it was the Brandenburg Gate, not 'Brendanburg'. Did Obama fuck that up too? He better watch that teleprompter- "Go fuck yourself, San Diego!"

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:59 | 3670773 overmedicatedun...
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never drive and write about the elite criminals, bad things happen, obuma was outta the country when an enemy of the state got killed , was outta the war room while 4 americans got killed in libya, we can't prove nothin. reporters with computers full of kiddie porn, (thank you NSA) know to keep their mouths shut or they get jail time. tell the truth you disappear, (rest in peace Mr Breitbart)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 07:59 | 3670775 PaperBear
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I'm sure the surveillance sounds all too familiar to residents of East Germany.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:01 | 3670778 viator
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NSA über alles

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:07 | 3670779 lolmao500
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Am I the only one who can't listen to this scumbag more than 30 seconds straight without wanting to punch the screen??

In other news, he's full of scheiße.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:05 | 3670784 eddiebe
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I would stay and listen to what Obama has to say, but listening to him and to Bernanke both just makes me puke.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:16 | 3670804 ThisIsBob
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Biggest mistake Obama made was to trust the white guys.  They are lying to him too.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:44 | 3670851 Reptil
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I think so too. I think a part of the so called "insiders" will be very surprised when the real curtain comes down.
The whole "culling mankind for the good of mankind" is a bullshit line really, you can't build a new world by destroying it (ruïn the biotope for DNA based life practically forever), just as you can't have peace by waging war. I came across this, which offers a very different way (than presented by the "elite") out of this mess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFgmt8M_NoU

but I digress.... ;-)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:43 | 3670859 The Abstraction...
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Those white guys are about as Anglosaxon as the Anglosaxon banking system. And no, the Anglosaxon banking system is not Anglosaxon.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 11:09 | 3671374 Ghordius
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first: when I started writing some comments on ZH I've found out that many American repliers found the term "AngloSaxon" deeply offensive (perhaps racist? don't know)

second: the "AngloSaxon financial system" has a distinct culture - though you'd have to make a difference between The City before the Big Bang and Wall Street... since the Roaring Twenties

one way to make an example: the banker's "cousins" in insurance: there is a Lloyd's tradition (of betting) and a continental tradition

in the first punters betted on ship's demises - with risk more on the side of the insurer. in the second farmers shared the costs of any cow or similar dying, with risks shared on the whole bunch

the differences are subtle, (and have a lot to do with expectations of profit) but go in the same direction of why Bismarkian insurance schemes are so unpalatable for Americans. or single-payer healthcare, for example. not entrepreneurial enough, I guess

seen from this continental perspective, the Anglosaxon banking system is AngloSaxon, and filled with... lots of American Masters of the Universe, even in London

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 03:00 | 3674344 The Abstraction...
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Check out the Deutsche Bank for its derivative position relative to the German GDP and tell me it is any better than HSBC or JP Morgan.

 

Those Americans who tell you Anglosaxon is deeply offensive are either racist Jews or PC tards. That is why they demonize largely Zionist controlled banks as Anglosaxon. JP Morgan was a front man for the Rothschilds, whose was contractually obligated to bequeath his shares in the bank he founded to the Rothchilds on this death. HSBC was founded by the Sassoons, the semi-invisible half of the Rothschild empire. I am not sure about Deutsche bank, but it may be as Credit Suisse, Societe Generale and BNP Paribas, just another Rothschild outlet. I know Bob Chapman, when he was alive at least, had a PDF linking all the banks to the Rothschilds, perhaps you could check his website for it, the International Forecaster.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:01 | 3670911 ThisIsBob
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PS:  Memo to the govsymp pantywaist bots which downvote posts that hurt - keep 'em coming, missy;  nice to know one is hitting home. 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:04 | 3670918 Phil Free
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Is Obama not white?  His mother was.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:44 | 3670864 The Abstraction...
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This is why the only thing I keep in my email now are links to lesbian jelly wrestling sites.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:48 | 3670873 smacker
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"The mind wobbles" ;-)

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:49 | 3670875 Mr. Hudson
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He will explain that there are still some 100 year-old Nazis out on the loose.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:57 | 3670899 Judge Crater
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Nazi propaganda chief Goebbels in Hell must have applauded Obama's speech.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:58 | 3670901 rustymason
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NSA scandal: The Deepest Secret of the Ed Snowden Operation
by Jon Rappoport, June 19, 2013

http://www.infowars.com/nsa-scandal-the-deepest-secret-of-the-ed-snowden...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:19 | 3670971 DOT
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dis-information

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 08:59 | 3670903 notadouche
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"You want me on that wall, You need me on that wall..."

"YOU want the truth?  YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!..."

 

A Few Good Men.  Where are they when you need them?  

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:12 | 3670950 suteibu
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Was that 9AM EDT or CEST?

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:16 | 3670962 22winmag
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They must be passing out free schnitzel burgers to the fools clapping and cheering.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:14 | 3671208 badewann
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...no need. That was a carefully selected crowd of about 4.000 heads. They did it for free - stupid idiots.

 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:26 | 3670973 Ghordius
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"Der Spiegel" has an interesting piece on it called "Europe must protect itself from America", (in english)

it touches various points, including the unwillingness of all political partecipants to really change anything

at the end, it goes like this: "A simpler approach would be to just force American firms to respect European laws. The European Commission has the ability to do that. The draft for a new data privacy directive has already been presented.* It just has to be implemented. Once that happens, American secret services might still be able to walk all over European law, but if US Internet giants like Google, Apple, Microsoft and Facebook want to continue making money off of a half-billion Europeans, then they will have to abide by our laws. Under the new law, companies caught passing on data in ways not permitted are forced to pay fines. You can be sure that these companies would in turn apply pressure to their own government. The proposal envisions setting that fine at 2 percent of a company's worldwide revenues.

That's a lot of money -- and also a language that America understands."

Sadly, this comes to a moment where the Obama Admin and the EU Commission are all soft on each other because they really, really want the Transatlantic Trade Deal to come through, particularly since Barroso sees it as a way to convince the British to stay (one of the most futile endeavors anyway)

but - surprise - according to my sources the bill was originating from the Council, not the Commission. so it will be interesting to see what the EU parliament does on that...

...and even more interesting, if this bill goes through/materializes itself on the way, to see the British and Dutch officialdom's reaction

----

(*) here the wiki article on the EU "General Data Protection Regulation" draft - note the "Right To Be Forgotten" clause

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:30 | 3671253 Paveway IV
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There is no protection anymore, Ghordius. The Germans should consider retribution: make the U.S. join the EU - that should teach those bastards (which includes me). How could things possibly get any worse?

The West is just a larger version of Greece with more cable channels. 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:42 | 3671286 Ghordius
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ehm, the trick would be actually to finally get the UK out of the EU. what Obama, Cameron and that *unspeakable* Barroso currently want is to crush all factual and potential EU barriers and get europeans to sign the TransAtlantic Pact. Google et al are very, very pushy about that

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 11:09 | 3671375 Paveway IV
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I certainly hope the europeans have wised up by now: don't ever sign on to any American schemes that promise jobs ...EVER. Especially if America shows up holding hands with the UK. The Germans and French use to know better. Heck, even the UK would know better if they were not already in on it.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 11:36 | 3671534 Ghordius
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to go back to the spying, remember that we are all... family. imho this is the way to look at things: the "scandal", for many, is not the spying on the general population, it's who does not get the data

what irks Germans, French, Spaniards, Austrians, Italians, etc. is that only select parts of the family get this data over them, i.e. the intelligence services of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and of the Netherlands

most of the spied-upon don't let their governments have legally this kind of snoop-rights. and so we currently have this awkwardness

that's the reason why some initiatives might have a chance, and if europeans are suddently legally protected from Big Brother, who knows, perhaps the general opinion in the US, the UK and the Netherlands might... change

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:29 | 3671026 F. Bastiat
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Hussein Obama is a delusional marxist and a fraud.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 09:34 | 3671042 Talleyrand
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Fifty years ago, Jack Kennedy - may he rest in peace.

Today, Barry Obamy.

How sad.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:01 | 3671142 bearparty
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Obama just referred to Berlin as "here in the United States", when talking about evesdropping. I guess that explains why the NSA is snooping in Germany. Lol.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:18 | 3671213 Ghordius
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that's that one less endearing trait of Brits before and Americans now to somehow be a bit forgetful about other people's national borders and jurisdictions

but after all, wherever the US flies it's proud banner, it's home* - so he might be just emphasizing his feeling of feeling at home in what used to be the American Sector of Berlin, after all

(*) I understand there is a special exception to that rule: Guantanamo

yes, the Stars and Stripes does fly over it, but it's officially-and-guaranteed "Not-The-US"

which stills strikes me as odd, then I understand that if you are born on a US ship, plane, embassy or military base you are automatically a citizen

meh

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:45 | 3671303 Paveway IV
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The government of the US is a business. US citizens are its revenue-generating meatbags. 

Best claim them as subjects when they're born. Newborns usually don't have lawyers and have difficulty expressing their objections. 

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:06 | 3671181 Gandalf6900
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Appauling...only spoke of the past, maybe cause there is nothing cheerful to say about the future...

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:12 | 3671202 Gavrikon
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Hey Fucktard!  I hear you're in my country today explaining why you eavesdrop on us.  Great.  Eavesdrop this:  You are a fucking moron!  

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 10:49 | 3671315 iamtheeggman wh...
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lyin' & spyin'

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 11:05 | 3671350 syntaxterror
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That POS has come a long way since his rock star tour 5 years ago in Germany.

Wed, 06/19/2013 - 12:45 | 3671860 lasvegaspersona
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he left out an ummm and an ahhhhh

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