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FOMC Impact So Far: Nikkei -725 Points, Dow -570 Points

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But, but, but... the rally was all about earnings and fundamentals... not the Fed, right?

 

 

 

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Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:13 | 3676185 Stoploss
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LOL!!!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676220 King_of_simpletons
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We are not in a bubble. I repeat, we are not in a bubble.

Boy those anal-ysts are desperate.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:25 | 3676263 Arius
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Santelli - this is why QE is forever

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:29 | 3676300 kliguy38
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The Fed is demonstrating their power......and they WILL implode everything......but not yet. This is to show you THEY are the market and YOU WILL COMPLY BITCHEZZ!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:02 | 3676504 SamAdams
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Goldman and Morgan will be insolvent in no time... Thankfully, people still use debit cards meaning they have an easily confiscated deposit, er, I mean credit to the banks.  Looks like Goldman and Morgan will be saved! 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:20 | 3676602 THX 1178
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And then the americans flood into the streets. Much has been said of lazy and passive americans, but whne the KFC and corn syrup stops flowing... Its all about flow you know.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:43 | 3676718 SamAdams
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Too bad they are too stupid to know who their enemy really is.  They will be kicking in the millionaire's door down the street because he took all the money...  How do you teach corn-fed fatties who and what the Zionist Commie is?  It's hella difficult to convince these dumb rednecks that the Bush family is one of the most evil things ever created by Rockefeller, Harriman and Walkers (research Samuel Bush).  Is there hope?  I wonder...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 18:42 | 3677139 Herd Redirectio...
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Right on.  One way to think of it is, they (Prescott and GW) started the CIA.  The intelligence agencies work for the Oligarchs, thats a basic summary.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:18 | 3676222 12ToothAssassin
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I cant look away from the chart! Its mesmerizing.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:19 | 3676227 Jack's Digestib...
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BULLISH!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:30 | 3676312 NoLongerABagHolder
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I know, I know!!!! We should be hiding in GOLD!!!!

 

Oh wait......

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:47 | 3676432 Al Huxley
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Don't forget, it's spelled GOLD, not GLD.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:12 | 3676547 Atlasshruggedme
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Al is correct. People are selling GLD and SLV (paper). Here is an example. To print 1 oz of silver costs $0.00-$0.01 per ounce. To mine silver it costs $19-22 per ounce. -- Having metal in your hand is still safe.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:07 | 3676519 Atlasshruggedme
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LOL is right. Every podcast and youtube analyst was saying things would drop the past week. HERE IT IS!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:13 | 3676186 The man with po...
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people get a buzz seeing stock markets crumble.

people get a buzz seeing stock markets rise.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:16 | 3676205 nope-1004
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But the discouraging part is watching someone who has no fucking clue what they are doing, take the mic and pontificate about "employment, headwinds, systemic risk, green shoots" and all the other bullshit that comes out of Bernocchio's mouth.

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:18 | 3676221 Manthong
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PPT should be back from the usual extended lunch soon.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:19 | 3676234 Bay of Pigs
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What is disheartening and demoralizing is the lack of truth tellers and any shred of integrity and honesty in the markets.

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:32 | 3676324 Frastric
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nope-1004; ah yes but such discouragement just gives me that opportunity to laugh, scorn and mock these fools.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676209 12ToothAssassin
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Im downright giddy - the people around me cant figure out why.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:26 | 3676279 CrashisOptimistic
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It's 4 lousy %.

We did -4% moves in 1 day in 2011.  This is nothing.

This shit needs to be down 50% pre open Monday, so that it CAN'T open from the circuit breakers.

Same thing all week long.

Let's see how the world looks with the S&P -50% after a week of trading.  Then we'll see Warren's swimming with no clothes stuff.

And it will turn out to be 80% of CEOs.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:28 | 3676288 jal
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Go back to sleep grandma ... its only a bad dream.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:13 | 3676187 Obchelli
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What is scary in this drop is all assets are dropping in sync. And this are assets used as a collateral in many companies that trade. And when Mr Margin calls in next few days and they need to sell to meet a call they need to sell into deteriorating price. It's really scary what can happen... Unless this was setup and fed will print MOAR

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676211 Herd Redirectio...
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Deflation.  Temporarily.  Precursor to inflation.

Watch for when banks start extending loans (for the first time in years).  That will be the key stage.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:20 | 3676238 Manthong
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Unless this was setup and fed will print MOAR”

It’s a shame they are so reluctant to print.

..at least they always tell the truth.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:32 | 3676330 Ropingdown
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Banks extending loans?  Who wants them?  Too much theory.  Debt's going bad in the Chinese and US shadow system.  In EU it's going bad in all sorts of categories.  Consumers could have been convinced that "inflation's coming, so buy goods now!" except consumers already perceive that they will not have a way to earn more of that devalued cash next year, so their only option is to say "nah.  Not buying now.  Have to save cash just to by rice (noodles, toilet paper) over the next three years.  That's my "theory of the consumer."

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:19 | 3676231 Bonesetter Brown
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Could it possibly be significant that the S&P500, ten year, and gold are all dropping together?  Hmmm...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:38 | 3676379 Obchelli
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Yes it is... As I said earlear all this assets are counted as collateral in all your counterparty trades - so trading with anyone is getting riskier by day that's why repos jumped in China. Deflation could be when ocean leaves a beach - just to storm back as an Inflation Tsunami

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:47 | 3676429 Boxed Merlot
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all assets are dropping in sync...

 

What's up with OJ? 

Is this a joke Mortimer?

Buy! Buy!

 

Where's that gorilla mask?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:24 | 3676636 More_sellers_th...
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Yea... It's a good thing everything is not correlated hahaha

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:14 | 3676189 GVB
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Bernanke's mail probably hitting 1 mail per sec. ting, ting, ting... LOL

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:14 | 3676190 Sabibaby
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I have a feeling Benny Boy has a few other tricks up his sleave. Probably will just keep printing money and not say anything about it but I really hope he starts dropping money from helicoptors so he can live up to his name before retiring.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676191 cloudybrain
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the water flow will be shutdown, market will become a desert

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:15 | 3676200 johny2
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puzzling!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:15 | 3676203 slaughterer
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Moar market horror overnight and tomorrow.  

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:16 | 3676204 ultimate warrior
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We don't need no water let the mother fucker burn......

BURN MOTHER FUCKER......BURN

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:16 | 3676207 Bay of Pigs
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Gold and silver in freefall. Bad news all around. This will make 2008 look like a fucking picnic.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:23 | 3676249 cynicalskeptic
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BUT JPM will be able to restock its COMEX vault at a far lower price

OR

A COMEX default - payout in cash - becomes MUCH more affordable.

 

long term trend remains - too much paper money in circulation backed by NOTHING - higher demand for glod and silver and shrinking supplies as ore quality drops and mines close

 

If you want to sell you're playing into 'their' hands giving up a tangible asset with no counterparty risk and exchanging it for pieces of paper

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:28 | 3676289 IridiumRebel
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+1 This is bullshit. Your analysis is spot on. Kudos. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:29 | 3676301 Herd Redirectio...
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Premiums on physical silver are currently at 15% i.e. around $3.  So that means they get at least a 15% discount by settling in cash.  They've gone one better by bringing the market down from $28 to $20 on top of that.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:53 | 3676456 1C3-N1N3
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Paid 30% premium on silver today, or about $26.

(Local shop is the only place within bicycle distance 'round here. Next closest burns 4 gallons of gasoline which adds $15 to the expenditure.)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:56 | 3676470 Herd Redirectio...
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Right.  I was going by Tulving and Nucleo Direct.  In one case, its a 500 oz minimum (Tulving), in the other, you can only order within the States.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 18:04 | 3677046 1C3-N1N3
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Right on. I'm a new kid in the silver scene -- seems I popped in on a conversation bigger than my britches. Sorry 'bout that. Back to lurking on silver threads...=]

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 09:18 | 3678820 screw face
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+1 bullish

Not all ZHer's are big bucks........it's about intel........where's the money flowing?

BTFD.....only PM's......no bullshit.......ready thy flotation devices.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:43 | 3676409 Bay of Pigs
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I agree with you of course, but it sure isn't stopping the cratering of PM's (much like 2008).

I think this is the worst I've seen in the last 12-13 years.

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:16 | 3676208 w00dmann
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Glorious.

And all the stock market shills who shamelessly / shamefully rah rah'ed the bull market over the past year, suckering in poor dupes by proudly proclaiming "stocks offer so much value" and "stocks always go up over time" can now officially SUCK.  MY.  DICK.!!!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676215 Kirk2NCC1701
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Dow drops?  BTFD!

/s

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:17 | 3676217 Kirk2NCC1701
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PMs are getting hammered beyond belief. Have to admit that outside the Fed/JPM/GS triangle, no one - not even ZH - saw this coming last Fall.

Q:  Hey PM bro, how low will it go?

A:  I'm going out to BTFD.  Later I'm going boating.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:24 | 3676257 cynicalskeptic
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JPM needed help to restock its COMEX vault.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:36 | 3676364 nope-1004
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With what, and from where?

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:52 | 3676446 Al Huxley
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Exactly.  There's no physical coming into their vaults, in spite of the lower prices, and apparently, as of yesterday they still have to deliver 490,000 oz at the end of the month, with only 418,000 in their vaults.  But apparently, even though they can't cover the physical obligation, they are in fact net long gold, so I expect they'll just figure out a way to hand off the delivery obligation to those clever specs that are making a killing on the short side right now.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 00:14 | 3678117 Muppet
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They will deliver in cash, not physical.   Hence the GLD and Gold spread.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:20 | 3676224 Peter Pan
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The solution will come and it will not be what we expect.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:33 | 3676334 YC2
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At least give me a hint! What do I expect? so I can cross it off...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:46 | 3676755 viahj
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not the Spanish Inquisition

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:54 | 3676794 Dixie Rect
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Put her in.......THE COMFY CHAIR!!!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:19 | 3676230 asscannon101
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Its 1515: Time to fire the retro-rockets and kick this bitch into 'Salvation Mode'. Mr. Henry, are you ready?!? Ensign Henry! Standby to fire on my mark! Kevin, are you there?!?!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:54 | 3676457 asscannon101
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Power... Power... Kevin, pull the nose up... Get the nose up! Power... POWER! POWER!POWER!POWER!POWER!POWER! GET THE NOSE UP! GET THE FUCKING NOSE UP!! GET THE FU-.....

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:11 | 3676537 asscannon101
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Whew! THAT one was close, Kev. I think I went poo a little bit at about 14,733...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:19 | 3676233 johny2
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time for bernanke to fly like superman and drop the dollars to the population, saving the world again.. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:20 | 3676236 ptoemmes
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I'll wonder if Maria's hoping that we close off the lows.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:20 | 3676239 ToddGak
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Soon they will simply have Bernanke stop making public statements.  All Fed operations will go on behind closed doors with no public or media oversight whatsoever.  This will be the only way to properly control the markets.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:23 | 3676248 Bastiat
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Nice going Ben!  Nothing succeeds like total fucking destruction, eh?  Brilliant!

Gold going down in this general macro-monetary environment reminds me of the machine gunning of the USS Liberty's lifeboats after straffing, rockets, napalm and torpedos.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:27 | 3676276 cynicalskeptic
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The ones sinking the ship will be the same ones salvaging it and claiming the contents.....  JM+PM had a NEGATIVE balance on their COMEX vault holdings yesterday - committing to deliver more than they had... wanna bet this helps them immensely?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:25 | 3676266 Clowns on Acid
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Well overnight going inbto Asia... the hedgies might feel that it is time to get out of the EUR/JPY carry trade. EUR is next to get crushed, then Bernanke has a real problem on his hands... or maybe Obama does.... meh...Obama is going to be visiting Africa with the missus. He deal with it when he gets back.

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:06 | 3676515 tunnelvizn
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Yes, He can stay at home too .  No need to come back to US to annoy us . 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:26 | 3676272 firstdivision
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How are  those Sept NKY calls working out for you muppets?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:27 | 3676285 syntaxterror
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Buying opportunity of a lifetime today!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:30 | 3676314 Seasmoke
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this is going to be a very long 30 minutes  

 

and friday is going be even uglier   

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:36 | 3676362 thismarketisrigged
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how much are nikkei futures down currently?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:39 | 3676384 CrashisOptimistic
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2%

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:38 | 3676380 TheEmperor
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"Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational Fed Death Star"

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:39 | 3676391 Surging Chaos
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Time for Benny to up the dose of QE.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:40 | 3676392 Lord Drek
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Don't fall for this. This has happened numerous times before . A 40% selloff might indicate something. Until, it's BTFD because QEx is just a button press away.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:52 | 3676393 robertocarlos
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The DOW is down 358 points, well off today's low. Did I get that right? Or should I have written, the DOW is up 210 points in afternoon trading. Well off today's low.

 

Edit: Opps I just got home and I jumped to the conclusion that the DOW fell 570 today and then rallied.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:43 | 3676407 css1971
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"Krugman and Bernanke".

Sounds like a cheap comedy double act.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 15:56 | 3676466 robertocarlos
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Emerging market strength is over also. I may have paid too much for my new made in India underwear.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:02 | 3676500 SAT 800
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The Year of the Rat.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 09:44 | 3678918 screw face
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Thought it was the year of the snake.......

 

 

 

Krugman...that you...

Those 3D printers are looking better all the time.......

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:05 | 3676513 Downtoolong
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So, Cramer, Maria, Leisman, Tepper, et al., “Where else ya gonna go now?” you buffoons. Hope you were all in at the top, and all those you talked into it come after you with pitchforks..

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:08 | 3676524 bonzo112358
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Cue CNBC's blame it on the HFT's and the short sellers. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 16:29 | 3676669 Tombstone
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By the end of the year you'll be flipping that chart upside down trying to make the upside look like the downside.  Buy everything that isn't nailed down. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 19:21 | 3677231 mendigo
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It is possible that when threatened with reduction in stimulus, the market will throw a disproportionate tantrum in effort to show bernanke who runs the show. It may gain more steam then intented. Will ppt respond as vigorously as in past or hesitate. Why are they allowing this to happen. Suspect they need to inject a bit of fear.

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