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Submitted by Mark J. Grant, author of Out of the Box,

I have long held the opinion that the markets, all of them, have been buoyed by what the Fed and the other central banks have done which was to pump a massive amount of money into the system. There are various ways to count this but about $16 trillion is my estimation. The economy in America has been flat-lining while the economies in Europe have been red-lining and while China has claimed growth their numbers did not add up and could not be believed.
 
In other words, the economic fundamentals were not supporting the lofty levels of the markets which had rested upon one thing and one thing alone which was liquidity. I have also stated often enough that the long awaited reversal would take place either due to an "event" or due to a change in the Fed's position where the liquidity was going to be stopped. In one of the clearest and most open meetings ever conducted by the Fed, in my opinion, they said quite clearly that the end to its liquidity operations was coming and while the postulated this and that if the markets did this and that the message was quite clear; we are going to unwind what we have we have done.
 
Yesterday was the first day of the reversal. There will be more days to come.
 
What you are seeing, in the first instance, is leverage coming off the table. With short term interest rates right off of Kelvin's absolute Zero there was been massive leverage utilized in both the bond and equity markets. While it cannot be quantified I can tell you, dealing with so many institutional investors, that the amount of leverage on the books is giant and is now going to get covered. It will not be pretty and it will be a rush through the exit doors as the fire alarm has been pulled by the Fed and the alarms are ringing. There is also an additional problem here.
 
The Street is not what it was. There is not enough liquidity in the major Wall Street banks, any longer, to deal with the amount of securities that will be thrown at them and I expect the down cycle to get exacerbated by this very real issue. Bernanke is no longer at the gate and the Barbarians are going to be out in force.
 
Yesterday was not pretty but today is likely to be worse. Gold is getting smashed, equity futures are down significantly, bonds are taking it on the chin and the only thing that is up is the Dollar. Then besides the Fed's announcement; China is a rose dying on the vine. Their overnight repo rate hit 25% as the fear is palpable in Asia between the collapse of the Everbright Bank and the antics in Japan. The yield on China's three year government bonds rose 12.5% last night while their flash PMI plunged to 48.2 which is the worst number in nine months.
 
Now you may be wondering what to do next. You will hear a lot of people in the media today saying that this is just a normal part of the market's cycle.
 
This is not the case.
 
The Fed has signaled its intentions very clearly. You should be taking profits, taking money off the table and building up your cash positions. Your supplier of opiates has just informed you that your drugs are going to get cut off and preparations need to be made because there is no other supplier of this opiated cash. You can accurately think of the world's central banks as a "cash cartel" and the distribution is being ended.
 
How bad it is going to be is uncertain but BAD, with capital letters, in my estimation. For four years we have lived on drug money supplied by the Fed and their colleagues and what the emperors' can give; they can take away.
 
Eventually Treasury yields will go back down because the Fed will be buying more bonds than the Treasury needs to issue but for now the "leverage issue" will overcome that reality. Mortgage rates will be heading higher, the Real Estate market is going to correct and the days of wine and roses are now behind us.
 
The party is over!
 
"It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to

Cry if I want to, cry if I want to

You would cry too if it happened to you"
 
             -Lesley Gore

 


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Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Stop it.  There are no "markets" for true price discovery, aside from local black markets of course.  Now that greed and fraud are the status quo, possession is the law.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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To big to fail becomes to big to bail.

 

Now perhaps we'll find out what the real price is.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:24 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Execute all these paper-pushers and political puppets.  Their labor is of no real value anyway.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:27 | Link to Comment flacon
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Time to BURN those HELL BANK NOTES. 

http://travelerfolio.com/tf2/photos//2009/08/hell-bank-note-hungry-ghost-money.jpg

(yes, even HELL has HYPERINFLATION)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment flacon
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10-Year Treasury 2.44 +0.07 +2.95%

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Manthong
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If FDR could have driven the price of gold down (he did not have the ability to) prior to EO 6102, he would have.

He did (devalue the dollar) by boosting the price of gold big time after he got his hands on most of it.

This time is different.. not from the perspective of the dictatorial elite, but from the knowledge and perspective of the citizenry.

..just sayin’

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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I agree.  I laughed at Bill Gross talking about how the market misinterpreted bernanke.  No doubt bernake will keep the spigot on.  However, the algos counter noted "tapper" was published more often than "purchase moar" and therefore they dumped.  Its that simple.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:25 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Another POMO day, we close green,  bank no sell on it.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Cunnial
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I don't think "Taper" was mentioned once, in the release or the Q&A... just saying. 

Still... Fuck you Bennie...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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Two nights ago, Cyberdyne upated the routine:  "Taper" = "Puzzled" = "margin call" , DO {SELL} for=ever.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:27 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Actually the robots were confused by 'puzzled' and didn't know what to do so by default they withdrew liquidity.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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Wnat's puzzling you is just the nature of Satan's game.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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Dup

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 12:14 | Link to Comment prains
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satan made you do it.....

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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Go long  Black Markets

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment Cunnial
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"China is a rose dying on the vine."... Huh? 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:24 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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I don't have a green thumb, but do roses grow on vines ?  Never bought a dozen of them that came that way.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment tvdog
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Yes, they do.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:20 | Link to Comment thismarketisrigged
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u.s futures are only down slightly now in terms of pct pts.

 

europe is down over 2 percent across the board, and asia got clobbered.

 

im not going to be fooled by the futures, today we should see a -250 day on dow easily and -30 on s&p. there will be lots of panic and i will love watching it.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the markets end up in the green. Then someone will check the Bloomberg terminal and the Fed will be logged in at maximum capacity.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:44 | Link to Comment flacon
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I think we will close below the 50 dma on the Dow and S&P. That is going to trigger a whole NEW wave of selling as technicals get obliterated and even the bulls agree that we are in a bear market now. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:26 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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Congress too, of course.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:20 | Link to Comment The Devil
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I'm just getting started...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 12:15 | Link to Comment prains
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I just sharted

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:21 | Link to Comment Atlantis Consigliore
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the Monkee to Ben:  "YOU RE FIRED."    

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment SillySalesmanQu...
Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:21 | Link to Comment JJSF
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I like Grant's stuff. But he is wrong here.

The p/e of the market after this correction and given the growing energy boom and it's consequences for manufacturing and the supported peripheral industries involved and transporting gas, liquifying gas, oil etc is not overvalued. Also, Keep in mind that every central bank in the world is now openly buying equities and this will not stop until it's time to pop that bubble and start over. We will rally from here

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:27 | Link to Comment YC2
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Thanks a lot, this insanity gave me a good chuckle this morning.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:22 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Be fore warned, it a liquidity TRAP!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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It's articles like this that tell me it's not over. When Mark Grant and Graham Summers start waving their arms frantically screaming "it's over"....its not over. When it's over there won't be any " market participants" because the markets won't be there.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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IMHO, it's a head fake. Why would the Fed pump the market to ridiculous levels then allow it to plummet? It would destroy its credibility with the average sheeple. Within two weeks Bernanke will take back the QE tapering.. All of us ZHers know it is hurting the real economy, but that will not stop the Fed. The Fed is the markets and the markets can not go into free fall.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:27 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Well at least not until they have complete power and control (which is what this is all really about) of the assets and resources they want.  There is something much more sinister behind all this, history is very clear on this point.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Doctor of Reality
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Exactly!

People are getting caught up in a game of checkers, while TPTB are playing chess.... soon to be followed by dominos.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:36 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Okay Goddammit Everyone Huddle Up! You guys are a mess out there. Forget the huddle, back to the bench and pick up the Goddamm playbook and look at it! Look at it! What does it say? What does it say!

It says create the illusion of growth. We did that. Then what does it say? It says announce the withdrawal of stimulus. Then we let interest rates rise to validate the illusion of growth. Everything is going to plan. Yes grandma and her bond fund are dead and several gold bulls are now instutionalized, but that was collateral damage and we knew it.

So now what? Now we take the victory lap. Who knows how long it will take. months? maybe a few years? Probably not.

Once we are all convinced we are back to normal then in the 4th quarter we have the big fuckin thing that no one saw coming that smashes the markets and we come running back in with massive stimulus. Now get back out there and get your heads outta your asses!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:02 | Link to Comment kito
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thanks coach!!! ;)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:49 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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BECAUSE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS REQUIRE MASSIVE FINANCIAL PAIN, MORE ECONOMIC SUFFERING ON MAINSTREET.  THIS IS ONE OF THE FINAL STEPS IN "FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION", Y'ALL.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:04 | Link to Comment flapdoodle
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Could well be a head fake - but like Chernobyl, the Bernanke may find out that the controls aren't responding anymore. Many were expecting tapering and that is what they interpreted - but the great unwind could well  be irreversible, so QE4 may not work...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Debugas
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Those in debt have no money to repay their debts

but not everyone is in debt

so deflation can not go down to zero but there will be many dead bodies on the way down

 

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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There is no such thing as deflation.  You are being fooled by progressive language, stop using it.  No society or currency has ever collapsed or died because their purchasing power was too strong.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment KidHorn
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I think the Japs would disagree.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:46 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit.  What has the price in yen for food and fuel been over the last 5, 10, 15, or 20 years in Japan?  Are you retarded?  Do you not expect to live more than 20 years?  The problem with your debtor/deflation thesis is that those debtors still need to be fed and kept warm.  You would only get true deflation if those debtors were to be "disappeared".  Likewise, inflation is "low" only if you believe people/economies don't require food and fuel (calories) to actually run.  Wake the fuck up and hedge accordingly.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:42 | Link to Comment aleph0
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Bubbles don't "unwind" , they CRASH.

..." the message was quite clear; we are going to unwind what we have we have done. " ...

..as in "Rollover" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPYLJoq_40Y

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:27 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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Meh, this I fear is just 'shaking the tree' to get some more easy money out of weak investors.   

This I fear will be no bigger than Snowden's uncovering of the NSA spying 'scandal'.  

Heads WON'T roll and the rich will get richer.  

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:29 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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Next headline: Goldman Sachs tells its clients to sell everything not nailed down. That will confirm that Bernanke was bullshitting yesterday.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:34 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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One must wonder, though, that perhaps what a 'crash' brings is deflated 401ks...which means the government has to come in and provide a nationalized pension plan which will start with confiscating everyone's 401k and 'redistributing' it in a defined benefit plan?  Hmmmm....always watch what the other hand is doing...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:38 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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In countries/states/cities with a relatively unarmed/untrained populace that might work.  For countries/states/cities with a large number of recent veterans or active volunteer military personnel, not so much.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:44 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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I hope you both are right...but the way things have fallen out with NSA spying, IRS intimidation, the way the market flies up at overwhelmingly poor market data...I have to wonder.   But, in fact, I pray you both are right.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:38 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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Yeah, but even the sheeple will wake up when they have been sheared yet again and the "End the Fed" movement will pick up even more steam.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:31 | Link to Comment horot
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YES!! More rout please!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:30 | Link to Comment SillySalesmanQu...
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We here have been head faked, swivel hipped and cross-over dribbled so many times by the Kevin Henry's and Plunge Protection Team that some are doubtful that we would ever see the light at the end of the tunnel.....let round 1 of this sorry escapade begin,hopefully with a KO to the FED   :)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment gatorengineer
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Look for China to start to print, good for a 5% pop, look for Europe to also go full retard good for 10% pop, and look in august/sept for the fed to go to 120..... 

They have plenty of paper and ink left, it wont be a smooth ride down...

 

Closing DUST at 119, still looking for 75 on EDZ.....

 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:35 | Link to Comment Smuckers
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Conversation at the Fed:

Hey....there's no more tape-paint in the bucket!

Open the red ones.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:41 | Link to Comment KidHorn
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This whole thing is overblown. The FED will spend a little less each month and then when everything goes to hell, they'll resume. Maybe there won't be enough MBS and T-Bills to buy so they'll add other types of debt securities to their portfolio. Eventually the FED will own corporate junk bonds and municipal bonds.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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What a great way to 'prove' that market manipulation by the fed 'works'.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 11:56 | Link to Comment tvdog
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There's a problem with timing. The Fed has to time things perfectly, otherwise the result is crash -> depression -> print -> stagflation -> print moar -> hyperinflation (rather than recovery).

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:39 | Link to Comment involuntarilybirthed
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We did'nt get much mileage out of that short lived wealth effect. 

Sad when 401k/IRA working Americans go to work then come home to see that Bernanke merely moves his lips and sucks the live out of them again.   Why don't he just do what he has to do and STFU.  He should be censured.

????Bernanke talk out of wack with Fed statement??????  Why the difference????

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment Uncle Zuzu
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Too many bears out there.  We're probably going to rise another 15% in the next 12 months, just to annoy everyone.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:39 | Link to Comment hankwil74
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BTFD!  Oh wait, you have no money left because you've been BTFDs since gold was $1900.  Don't worry, it's only paper gold being sold... I'm sure you can still sell your physical for $1850/oz

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:42 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Hank debts don't matter right?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:48 | Link to Comment hankwil74
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Of course debts matter.  But so does profit and growth.  In a QE situation when assets are pumped up, doesn't it make more sense to put your money in companies that make profits, or in the stock market as a whole and to ride the wave.  Even in the event of a crash, say 10% in a day, you can still get out for a large profit.  And it's very hard to manipulate on a large scale.  But these gold bugs are putting their money in a metal that produces no returns and is easily manipulated, and then crying when it gets manipulated.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:52 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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What happens when the debts get so big it's the dollar that crashes Hank?

Or is that still unimaginable?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:55 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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You only get growth if you have excess energy to burn. Let me guess, you don't think there is inflation either?  That is only true if you think people and eCONomies don't require food and fuel (calories) in order to run, much less grow.

Tell us, what's has the price in dollars for food and fuel been over the 5, 10, 15, 20, or 25 years?  Are you retarded?  Do you not expect to live more that 25 years?  Troll harder loser.  Ignore "prices" in fiat money.  fiat money is an illusion, this has always been about power and control over assets and resources of real value.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:02 | Link to Comment hankwil74
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In the event of inflation, wouldn't you rather have your money in a company? Even if inflation is 14%, profits should grow at the same rate.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Debugas
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prices were going up because banks were pumping the money into economy through the process known as consumer credit. Now it has stopped (because consumer is highly in debt and can not be loaded with any more debt)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:59 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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MDB, is that you? When someone manipulates the market higher by pumping it with liquidity, the last thing a non-Keynesian would want to do is buy into this stock market bubble.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:52 | Link to Comment kito
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sorry fonz, but i told you.....the moneymen still pray to ben statues.....................debts dont matter because they fully believe that growth will catch up to the debts......if ben is pushing rates higher....they BELIEVE its for the right reasons..............ben is still the motherfuckingman...................on the flip side, this really isnt a test for gold.....a true test for gold comes with negative sentiment.........when some acute event sets off an avalanche........then we will see if gold is the safe haven....or cash..........................

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:58 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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They do man. As you can see from my posts this am, I agree with you. The game continues for now, even at these higher levels.

I will tell you this, I think, eventually you are going to regret  squandering the gigantic gift that has been bestowed upon you. Most of us on here chased these metals up to higher levels and are now miserable. You onthe other hand have watched your cash temporarily enable you to buy these assets at lower levels (other than the gold at $300 crowd).

I think if they keep playing this game the dollar will strengthen even more from here. I hope you take this time to put that cash to work. Because circumstances will change.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment razorthin
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The wheels off the bus go round and round

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:41 | Link to Comment Hannibal
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TWA-800 blow out of the sky in 1996, CIA: "IT WAS NOT A MISSLE".

Must have been a missile.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:33 | Link to Comment Dapper Dan
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Jim Speer, an accident investigator at the time of the crash for the Airline Pilots Association, who sifted through the recovered wreckage in a hangar, said he discovered holes consistent with those that would be formed by a high-energy blast in the right wing. He requested it be tested for explosives. When the test came back positive, he said, he was "physically removed" from a room by two CIA agents.

After a four-year investigation, the NTSB concluded the plane was destroyed by a center fuel tank explosion likely caused by a spark from faulty wiring. But according to Tom Stalcup, a co-producer of the documentary, the film presents new "radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordnance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash." The film will premiere on EPIX on July 17, the 17th anniversary of the disaster.

"These investigators were not allowed to speak to the public or refute any comments made by their superiors and/or NTSB and FBI officials about their work at the time of the official investigation," a news release announcing the documentary said. "They waited until after retirement to reveal how the official conclusion by the (NTSB) was falsified and lay out their case."


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/twa-flight-800-crash-investigation-ntsb-141624708.html

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:44 | Link to Comment Bully
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Hey gold bugs, how are hurt butts this morning? 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:49 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Wake me when it's under $300 an ounce.  That's the dollar cost average on my physical holdings.  And surprisingly, all those ounces are still there.

Troll harder loser.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Bully
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Yup I believe you ;)

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:50 | Link to Comment wisehiney
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Yeah, puke that gold all over me, silver too, thanky, thanky!

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:48 | Link to Comment kito
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The Fed has signaled its intentions very clearly. You should be taking profits, taking money off the table and building up your cash positions. Your supplier of opiates has just informed you that your drugs are going to get cut off and preparations need to be made because there is no other supplier of this opiated cash. You can accurately think of the world's central banks as a "cash cartel" and the distribution is being ended......

 

wow, grant, you are a fucking genius!!!! did you figure this out on a napkin at Sparks steakhouse???? 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:50 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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No shit, several of us and ZH in general figured this out about two months ago kitco.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:54 | Link to Comment kito
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how does tyler keep this nimrod as a contributor? really? 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:12 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Mr Bluesman
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 I am probably in the minority, but I hope that this really is the end and the Fed turns off the taps and the bubble bursts.

My life and career are already mostly fucked, along with whatever pension I had from when I was in industry. But I have three Sons under 18 who might stand a chance of a much better life if we can get back to a system of sound money, sensible earnings/housing ratios and low household debt.

That cannot happen until the losses are taken. That's gonna be a whole world of pain.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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Those Treauries that mature is twenty years are going to be toilet paper once interest rates rise as the Fed bought at the artificially low rate. Perhaps they can offload them to a foreign government.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:04 | Link to Comment Mr Bluesman
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Well that puts a month's money on the table - but is it not possible that they are giving the market a bit of a warning before they gently reduce the flow?

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:00 | Link to Comment hugovanderbubble
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ARGENTINA - RUMORS OF DEFAULT

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:03 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Interesting domino to fall...

More links please, watching the price of sugar cane very closely for several reasons...

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Its Only Rock N Roll
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So if the Fed actually had to mark to market like everyone else....how much have they lost on their UST and MBS portfolio over the past 45-50 days???  Irrelevant I know but quite a staggering number. 

Many are giving BB too much credit here that he has control of this.  More QE REMOVES liquidity from the financial system by extraction of what is left of good collateral.  Less QE...well you see what poeple think about that yesterday and today. 

He who panics first panics best. 

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 10:49 | Link to Comment ItsDanger
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I always laugh at the notion of 'pumping' money into the system.  For the vast majority, there was nothing gained by this 'pumping' at all.  Buying bank assets so they could lend more out?  If that is your big economic weapon, its a lost cause.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment badger10
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Well double tops holds in and correction is in play. Rallies will occur but technically rallies should be sold.

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