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The Most Miserable States

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While arguments will likely flare over just how 'miserable' the occupants of Louisiana are relative to those of Minnesota, based on Bloomberg's quantification of 'misery' these two states are the most and least miserable in our Union. Based on thirteen factors, ranging from child poverty rates to pollution, income inequality, and mental health it seems New Mexico and West Virginia are moving up the most miserable ranks most rapidly year over year.

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Via Bloomberg:

Thirteen variables from the United Health Foundation's America's Health Rankings were isolated to determine each state's Misery Score. For each variable, the state with the maximum misery value received 100 points, while the state with the minimum value received zero points. All other states received points in proportion to where their values fell between the two extremes. Each state's 13 scores were then averaged for a final Misery Score. A higher score indicates greater misery.

 

  • Air pollution levels refer to micrograms of fine particles per cubic meter. (California and Indiana worst)
  • Child Poverty rate. (New Mexico and Louisiana highest)
  • High school graduation rates refer to percent of incoming ninth graders who graduate within four years. (Nevada and Mississippi lowest)
  • Lacking Health Insurance. (Texas and Nevada highest)
  • Poor health days refer to the number of days in which a person could not perform work or household tasks due to poor mental (Arkansas and Kentucky worst) or physical health (West Virginia and Kentucky worst)
  • Premature death refers to loss of years of productive life due to death before age 75. (Mississippi and West Virginia highest)
  • Violent crimes. (Nevada and Alaska worst)
  • Personal income refers to income from all sources and is not inflation adjusted. (Connecticut and Massachusetts highest; Mississippi and Idaho lowest)
  • For income distribution, a higher Gini ratio indicates greater income inequality. (New York And Connecticut most un-equal)
  • Unemployment plus underemployment refers to total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part-time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers.
  • Employment data are the averages of figures from 2Q 2012 through 1Q 2013. (Nevada and California worst)
 


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Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment true brain
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californication is here. the whole country will be east LA soon.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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East LA...without water from NorCal.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment TheTmfreak
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Yeah I'm real miserable here on my 8.5 (low cost) acres  where nobody bothers me and i'm 30 minutes from any shopping, high quality privately owned tasty resturants in Louisiana.

Lived in ALOT of states, Louisiana sure as hell isn't the worst by a long shot. I'm sure if New Orleans wasn't counted as part of the state It would be on a totally different level of the chart.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Why? LA without NO is just AL with more gators!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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Add traffic and winter severity and length and Minnesota does not end up 50th. Add communist school indoctrination and Minnesota can roll with the big guys like Mass and New York.

Oh and Maryland 33 and New Jersey 37? I don't think so.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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This study is pure shite.  Climate, Taxation and Density of loud mouth assholes need to be included for it to be believable.  It is not surprising that the fellas over at Bloomterd conveniently left those items out.  Fail.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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West Virginia has been miserable for a long time.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Yeah ~ According to Bloomberg 'cheesepopes' [who got their greedy slimeball asses kicked out 150 years ago]...

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To others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znN8m0KAOGI

francis_sawyer lives about a mile from one of those slides there... Nobody around here bitches that much [save for the fact that the Federal Government has anything to do with our land]...

Wanna kno something funny too?... ONE of those slides in that montage is actually taken in 'Virginia' [not WV]... But 'experts' like yourself who kno everything there is to kno about WV, prolly can't guess which one... so fuck off...

 

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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Kinda tetchy today, aintcha Jethro?  I was joking.  Sorta.  There is a hell of a lot more crap thrown at my hometown of Chicago here on ZH than I've ever seen about West Virginia.  Lots of it due to some politico who aint even a real Chicagoan, but I digress..

First time I saw WV was over 30 years ago.  Lots of abandoned mines and rundown shacks with washers on the porch.  Pretty miserable.  Then again so is much of Chicago.  There is good and bad everywhere.

http://www.google.com/search?q=abandoned+coal+mines+wv&client=safari&rls...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Pegasus Muse
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Pothole / Busted Axle Index:  NY ranks #1 with NYC off the chart.

Population Density of Rude Obnoxious A-holes:  NYC #1 

Shitty Commute Index:  Northern VA / Maryland #1 especially if you must cross the Potomic.

Hellhole War Zone Index:  O'Blamer's Windy City comes in #1;  Murder Capital of the World w/ 46 killings just last weekend alone.  http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/46-people-shot-in-chicago-this-weekend 

First three assessments based on personal knowledge.

There are three kinds of lies; lies , damn lies and statistics. And Michael Bloomberg  --Disraeli (modified)

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:56 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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Amen. Several of the "least" miserable states have huge health, taxation, and unemployment issues not accurately reflected in the survey.

 

This is just more Liberal elitist marxist bullshit to let everyone know that if you are willing to bend over and get raped like a welfare whore you too can be "less miserable" in the new worker's paradise.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:39 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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You are free to rationalize it anyway you like. But that apoplectic attitude is gonna give you cancer.....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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It's been awhile, but F U.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Well, fuck you and the ISP that got you here....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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Did Fuki cause this? After all, we have had reports of bald seals and sea lions on the west coast and Alaska:

 

25,000 bees die in Oregon parking lot

 

WILSONVILLE, Ore. (AP) — Workers on Friday plan to wrap bee-proof netting around blooming trees in the parking lot of an Oregon shopping center in an attempt to prevent the deaths of more bees.

State officials say tests to confirm the cause of the deaths could take two or three more days. They are checking for insecticides as well as possible natural causes.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/tree-netting-planned-protect-ore-bees-115509295.ht...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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They were bumble bees, not honey bees [hint: one lives in a hive, with a complex social structure, the other are largely solitary. Since they don't have a colony, bumble-bees don't get CCD]. They sprayed shit loads of insecticide all over an area with trees and wondered why they killed everything. CYOA in action to "add nets" as if that's going to help.

Portland-area bee experts with the Xerces (ZERK-zees) Society for Invertebrate Conservation estimate at least 25,000 bumble bees have died in the lot since last weekend. The bees were clustered under dozens of linden trees.


By the way: I find the lack of your ability to know the difference between a honey-bee and a bumble-bee to be absolutely hilarious for the long term prospects of your society. And no, radiation doesn't do that either, or at least: if it did to that, the complex mammals would be much worse off.

If you need help, I suggest grabbing Google Maps and taking a look at the parking lot in question. It'll explain much.

 

p.s. Bacon comes from Pigs. I know, it's shocking!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:57 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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25K bees died because they thought they were waiting at an Obamacare facility but found out that they were on the "death" list.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Apparently in Arkansas we can now say, thank god for Louisiana in addition to Mississippi!

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Martial
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Sweet home Louisiana! Yea baby...we #1! You heard dat?!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:24 | Link to Comment I am more equal...
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If Louisiana would just get back to pre-Katrina days it would be #1 by 12-lengths running away.  If Mary and Mitch Landrieu get their way Louisiana will be like Huey P. Long days....every man a king - a welfare king.  Who dat!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Banksters
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Currently in NC.  Motha fuckas ARE FUCKIN FAT HERE.  I mean CORPULENT.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:07 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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It's like that in every state!

Corpulence is the new conspicuos consumption...

DaddyO

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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We already have a "Type II Diabetes Timb-Bomb" situation - which translates to significant now (and increasing in the future) healthcare costs in later life.

Are we blindly heading for a society where parents outliving their offspring (and even grand-children) may become commonplace . . . . . . ? ?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Dingleberry
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"state" stats are not nearly has meaningful as city stats. Lots of disinfranchised folk in red states on modern day plantations, designed by liberal democrats for multi-generational votes.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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USA!  USA!  USA!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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'Murika.....FUCK YEAH!!!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment rack
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My name-a Borat. I come from Kazakhstan. Can I say first, we support your war of terror! May we show our support to our boys in Iraq! May US and A kill every single arab! May your George Bush drink the blood of every single child! May you destroy their country so that for the next thousand years not even a single lizard will survive in their desert!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment F. Bastiat
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Frankly, I don't buy the argument that you can magically quantify opinions of misery.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment bigdumbnugly
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lemme introduuce you to my ex wife...

 

you can call it.

 

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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In all fairness, it's probably mutual...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:10 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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C'mon MachoMan, where's your sense of humor!?!

DaddyO

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Well, to be honest... they didn't use magic. They used statistics!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Shad_ow
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It's all relative to how you think.  I am happy most of the time, here in Alabama.  On the other hand some are not.  That is the case every where.  People are the same no matter where you go.  Some good, some bad, some happy, some not.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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If all you've been is neck-deep in shit, elbow-deep seems pretty good.  You need to ask folks who've moved around a bit.

I, for instance, can say upon first-person examination that WV is a shithole of epic proportions.  Only place I've seen that was worse was the Hopi reservation in AZ.  My God that place was so tragic it made me litterally want to cry.  You couldn't pay me to go back to California or NY either.   

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Shad_ow
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Do you assume happy people haven't "moved around?"  Contentment can only be found in allowing yourself to accept and enjoy what you have.  That is realized in wisdom. 

Today I will be neck deep in my swimming pool with steaks on the grill.  The climate here is good at least 8 months of the year and I don't worry about the inner city thugs.

I've not visited WV but of the many places I have been I still contend there is good and bad in all.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Hmmm. Nevada. Not too pretty a picture. What's up with that Harry? As long as the Casinos are raking it in, you're fine with that?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Cruel Aid
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They voted him back in

Suck it up Vegas

Cops in vegas are making a killing though

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment bigdumbnugly
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literally must be?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Cruel Aid
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Both, higher pay in a growth industry

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment oddjob
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Given the roughy 7 million ounces of gold per year Nevada produces they might be better on their own.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment GubbermintWorker
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Wow, Louisiana has one of the highest child poverty rates and most people without health insurance and they're happy? See? Money don't buy happiness!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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They are MOST miserable.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment EINSILVERGUY
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Turn it upside down and he is right

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment prodigious_idea
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The misery index poll didn't include children

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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WV....  throw in reckless coal mining practices and a nascent fraking industry and you have a winner...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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You have to step back and admire the spirit of people so tough they can take that much bullshit for that long and still keep trying.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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You do have a point....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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The South shall rise ag'in!

I'm a native Oregonian.

I've heard Oregon referred to as "The Alabama of the West Coast." My response is always the same: I don't think that's fair to Alabama.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Diamond Jim
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no...Oregon is split up...there's Oregon and the People's Republic of Portland.........

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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I'm a native eastern Oregonian.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Who's throwing all the love around for WV?  JFC - I took my dog for a walk with my mother on one of their "rails to trails" deals they have there a few year's back (they've been tearing out RR infrastructure to make senic walkways for foks - I applaud the thought - but fear this may be a very bad idea long-term) and I see this black guy digging in a trash pit off to the side.  I say to my mother, "Hm - you know that's the first black person I've seen here in WV."  She looks at the guy and says to me, "He's not black.  He's covered in soot from burning tires in his trailer to keep warm" (she knew the poor guy). 

That is all I've got to say about WV (though I could go on. . . and on).

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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I'm waiting for the first proposal to convert a bike trail back to light rail for commuting....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment slotmouth
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Glad to see my home state of New Mexico hanging strong at number 5.  My high school never scored well on tests, but we were pretty consistent in the teen pregnancy metric.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Explains your stretchmarks.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment WarPony
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state of denial is working for me

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Unprepared
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where is that on the map?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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As long as STAWKS are green, EVERYONE is happy, right?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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made it in the top 5! we are at the top of the pile or bottom:(

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment docj
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Sheesh - Massachusetts is one of the top-5 least miserable states? You'd certainly never know it from the generally surly, angry, bitter attitides of most if the residents of The People's Republic, that's for sure.

Then again, you could probably just rank these by "percentage of white people living in the state" and get practically the same result.

Methinks the folks Bloomberg used to tabulate this fiction just don't like "people of color" very much.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment EINSILVERGUY
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I have to agree and call bullshit on this ranking. Im in Texas and we are 18TH?.  Ive been to Mass a couple of times. Nice country but you can keep Boston.  Now NH and VermontI can see

 

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment KnightTakesKing
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It's BS because it is constructed from a modern liberal perspective. There are no rankings for freedom and liberty in here. I would never live in NY, California or Illinois because of their lack of respect for my 2nd Amendment rights. Living in places that restrict my freedom would make me very miserable (not withstanding the current state of fascist America).

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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You are living in a state of denial...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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After my move south, I sure don't miss the automated stop light cameras and speed cameras down here in Mississippi.  Enjoy the boot on your necks all you happy, jolly northerners.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Best thing about New England is being in the woods in fall.  When the trees turn - for me anyway - there is no place more beautiful.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment OneFortySeven
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I was thinking the SAME damn thing. This is like a "Level of Blackness" scale, not a misery scale.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Where's Trav when you really need him?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Then why do most everyone I know in NJ, all moving to NC ???

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Yeah really. It's the new FL

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment WeeWilly
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I'm in NC. Like we need a bunch of folks from NJ moving here. Tell your buds to please stay the hell out!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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The only reason we are moving to the tarheel state is because our employers told us to GO WITH THEM. 

Don't worry - with NC's public schools, the next generation will be indistingushable from the current locals.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Jonas Parker
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Most of the "nanny states" seem to be doing well. It's those pesky red states that are unhappy... which makes me very suspicious of this whole survey... oh, it's from Bloomberg's! Must be accurate then!

 

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment EastCoast90
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People like to live in socially exciting places.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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If you are after social excitement try starting a LGBT club anywhere in Oklahoma (except for Norman).... 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Tinky
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Violent crimes. (Nevada and Alaska worst)

Presumably most on this site would argue that it's a coincidence that they both have liberal gun laws.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Polar bear maulings.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Tojo Japan, Mao China, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Idi Amin Uganda, Atatürk Turkey, etc.

Presumably you would argue that it's a coincidence that they all had liberal gun use by those in uniform.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment j.tennquist
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They also rank the least in population.  Can you say skew?

The city of (very liberal and deeply blue) Chicago had more gun murders (+500 in 2012) then both Alaska and Nevada combined. 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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And more of that most-favored-race as well.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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Large flat terrain and nothing to do drives people to seek escape and often that means drinking and then violence.

 

Does things to a man's soul.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment seek
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AZ and CA are next door to each other and have very similar violent crime rates (both on the high side, likely due to gang activity connected with Mexico.)

AZ has the most liberal gun laws in the US, CA near the most restrictive.

Crime isn't determined by gun laws, it's determined by demographics.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 17:00 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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That's an interesting point which points to the fact that the right to bear arms comes from our natural individual rights and is not a privilage based on social benefits. It doesn't matter if crime goes up or down really, it is my right. Like the 4th amendment. My right to be secure in my personal effects is a natural right independent of the supposed general benefit to society of having the government issuing general warrants on everything. People don't understand where their rights come from. How ironic that the lack of spirituality in this country is actually mostly caused by religion of one kind or another?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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Lots of guns down here in Mississippi libtard, and I don't even have to lock my doors.  Try that in one of your blue states with strick gun control.  Dare ya.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment TahoeBilly2012
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Richy Cunningham is a gay hooker now in the Tenderloin and the Fonz can't find afford gas for his ride.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Inthemix96
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The most miserable state to be in, is when you go on the drink on your own, end up pissed out your face, vomit down your brand new jeans, end up waking up not knowing where you are and how you got there.

And to top it off, you have two quid in your pocket and no means of getting home.

Now compare this to todays markets, to be honest, I would rather take my chances with the drink for my 'state', than take the fucking markets on, and look on the bright side, as long as you dont wake up with a wedding band on or a great fat cunt waking you up sitting on your face its a win win.

Not quite the most miserable state I have ever been in like.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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I pledge of allegiance to the dollar of the United States of Misery

and to the banksters to which it stands,

one nation under the CIA,

class-divisible, with luxury and just-us for all on top.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:30 | Link to Comment TahoeBilly2012
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You forgot the "outsourced" part...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Jesus Fucking Christ Pennsylvania...pick a side already!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment 10mm
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Pennsyltucky,3rd or 4th highest senior population with the dreaded hang nail called Philly.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Looks like spending the winter in Hawaii and then going to N Dakota for the summer is the ticket.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Bingo.  I doubt 6 months of work could pay for hawaii lifestyle for the other 6 months of the year, but it would be fun to try...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Do you want to be safe, prosperous, or free; choose two.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment monad
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Fukashima!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment stiler
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That's funny, when I cross over the line from Maine into NH I don't notice I feel any better, But I do notice it is more of a police state.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Shaten
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bullcrap survey

Being poor doesn't make you miserable.

Louisiana is normally rated the happiest by surveys.

- Fishing all year round

- Parades most of the year

- Geat food

- Personal responsibility.

- Hunting and guns

Almost like a liberal did that chart.....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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That's been my perception over the last 3 years.

Money is a relative thing to the jealous human mind.  If you live where nobody has any money, you can be quite content, however if you are not keeping up with the Jones', or worse, your wife's sister is driving a Bentley, you are in for trouble.

Therefore, most of the study goes right out the window.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Dave Thomas
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Just stay away from the fucking police. And don't do drugs.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment fuu
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Thank goodness the snow keeps out the riff-raff.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Goggles Pisano
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I grew up in New Jersey (#37) and live in Georgia (#13). I go back to visit family. It's a crap hole. So this list, put it in the crap hole.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Yeah, no shit. Connecticut #38. Bullshit. Besides Fuckfield CT where the banksters live, the rest of the state is in the shitter with almost 15% unemployment and a bunch of liberal assclowns running what is left into the ground. The debt is awful and unfunded liabilities are through the roof. 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"The Most Miserable States"

The state of sobriety the morning after an evening of insobriety?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Cursive
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LOL.  More worthless shit from some think tank/polling group.  I'm a Louisiana resident and the only problem I have with that, is that I live in the northern part of the state, which is poorer than south Louisiana both in economic and social terms.  In short, if you want to live in Louisiana, you would rather live among the coonasses (e.g. Troy from Swamp People) than the rednecks (e.g. Duck Dynasty).  In either case, these will both be better than Manhatten once the next Crash comes.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Not to mention in WV, they are mining coal like there's no tomorrow, poisoning the soil and water...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Well, I live in Minnesota, and for most of my life this state has come closest to refelecting a Scandinavian model of social and economic culture. Now in the last few years, this has changed VERY much. We are fast moving towards a more standard southern or Mid-western type of culture. This is natural and the strong Scandinavian immigrant nature of Minnesota is no longer reflected in the younger population. Cultural conservatism is gaining ground along with it's partner fundamentalist christian religion.

The Scandianvian model was a free choice of MN voters for a long time. The new voters are changing that. Good or bad, Minnesota is becoming more like the South every day. Voters have elected some radical conservatives lately, and more are gaing ground. A culture shift. But the economic standard and living standard is still very high up the list of US states. Thus the people I know are mostly very happy to live in this state. I hear nobody talking about moving out to escape the economy or culture. In fact, we get many coming in from other states to enjoy the more liberal social order and basically good economy.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@Jack Burton

Have the number of chocolate shops in St. Paul fallen in the last 30 years?

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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I don't know, I live way up North near the Canadian border. But upsacle trendy shops have taken over many former working class type store fronts in the Twin Cities. Amazing, upscale and trendy is IN.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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"Voters have elected some radical conservatives lately"

That's an oxymoron cooked up to discredit traditionalists and people who think the Constitution is more than a piece of paper, it's the law.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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I was trying to get a job recently in Minneapolis, but had to settle for Michagan. I heard about its Scandinavian culture and knew people from there, which made me curious. Besides all of that, I hear MN is still a centre-left state.. A DFL will most certainly take Michelle Bachmann's congressional seat, and Amy Klobachar got re-elected after her first full term (and marriage equality is now the law of the state).. So I don't know what you mean by people turning more conservative there (though I am a libertarian-independent.. I now consider myself 'above the politics'... and hate any political party that hijacks its government or people to serve as a means and end IE both political parties)

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 17:08 | Link to Comment FreeMktFisherMN
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you're actually pretty accurate. I'm from the SW suburbs of Mpls. Al Franken is a senator. Need I say more?

(RP by the way supported Kurt Bills who was a contender vs. statist Amy Klobuchar.)

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment rejected
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Air Pollution levels,,, Child poverty levels,,, population lacking health insurance,,, poor mental health days == a misery index? okayyyyyyy!

Bloomberg.... nuff said.

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment hwertz
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     It was strange, because when I was in New Orleans, get out of the touristy bit and the buildings were run down, infrastructure was pretty worn out, everybody was broke.  We went to a restaurant, the food was VERY good but one of the people asked about mustard and the server said the restaurant didn't have mustard, they couldn't afford to stock it.  I think by these standards the city is quite miserable, but they weren't -- the city is so downright bohemian that the locals, while realizing the infrastructure and economy there are pretty wrecked, are happy anyway.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 09:13 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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MONEY cannot buy happiness ... so true ...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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According to that chart I should be miserable. It's funny I don't feel miserable. I feel pretty damn good. Maybe I need to get psychiatric help.I hope that doesn't interfere with buying a gun later on......oh well the chart made me do it. 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Catullus
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I'm going to create my own index: Highest combined state and local taxes, percentage of people without a firearm, average annual revenue of traffic cameras, per capita number of child protective service agents, average cost to insure and register a vehicle, average annual cost of utilities (power, gas, fuel oil, telephone, Internet, cable), gasoline state sales tax, outstanding per capita pension obligation for public employees, incarceration rate of non-violent crimes

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:45 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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You just described NY/NJ/CT. I'm out.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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That would be very interesting. I'd love to see a good chart like that.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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So I live in the least miserable state?  Holy shit, I'm going to the liquor store then! (for the second time today)  I am not sure about that rating.  I might have to write a rebuttal to that when I get back from state #41 on Sunday.

 

Have a nice weekend ZH.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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The spin being generated in this thread is hilarious....

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Well well well ... if it isn't the overall ZH board F-up himself ... 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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      Minnesota is #1 (in lack of misery)?

      Wasn't that where "Grumpy Old Men" was filmed? The F**king mosquitoes are are the size of Pterodactyls up there.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment fuu
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We tell people that so they stay where they are.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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Let me help you out.  MN is the most miserable place I've ever lived.  Bone chilling winters and blood thirsty mosquitos during the 10 days of "Summer".

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment fuu
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Yes it is horrid, nasty, and brutish.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment 1000yrdstare
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I'm from SC, I see at least 2-3 out of state license plates coming to my area (Upstate). guess they love the misery!!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Pairadimes
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This is so fucking stupid that it has to be the result of federal grant funding.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment monad
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This chart is a joke.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment stant
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that chart is racist

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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I live in Mississippi and work in New Orleans, and I see we are missing some categories.  Where's the category for freedom? 

Freedom to drive to work without sitting in hours of traffic. 

Freedom to sit on a quiet beach that isn't crowed shoulder to should and blaring with rap music, just watching the waves and the gulls.

Freedom to drink a soda that's not healthy without some pious billionaire calling me names.

Freedom to use "yes mame" and "no mame" and have your curtesies returned on a regular basis

Freedom from race baiting urban rabble rousers.

Freedom to have a smoke if you got em

Freedom to cook up some shine because the good ole boys like their shine.

Freedom to say screw it and just go fishing without anyone looking ascance at you because everyone down here loves to fish, even the women.

Freedom from the smug Northeast and left coast fools who know nothing about history, or politics or money and could care less about freedom or the great Constitution of the United States of America.

If I'm so friggin miserable, why did I move down here from the Beltway, and if it's so bad, why am I staying?

Baby, if that's misery, give me some more misery.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment 10mm
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Those fools in the NE where im at,when shtf,i know whos who.Fuck em.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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Amen brother!

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:59 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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Very racist, hateful words.......... To a Left Coast or NE loser. +1 from me. I'm trying to live down south again someday.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment CEOoftheSOFA
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I travel to West Virginia quite frequently and I'm always astounded that everyone there has a "tale of woe". Everyone has one. The tales are usually about things like having a car wreck, having cancer, getting divorced, getting a DUI, having a child out of wedlock, etc, most of the problems are a result of them being so fat.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 15:46 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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When public policy is to import millions of tax parasites everybody is moving up the list 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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The real problem with the design of this study is in the subconscious assumptions and biases of the designer. As if there are not plenty of miserable peoples, and plenty of happy people, everywhere, all the time. Looking at this question at the level of states - totally arbitrary political units with no correlation to underlying population demographics, culture, ethnicity, religion, language, etc. - you can "prove" anything you want when the data you're using is not significantly correlated to the phenomenon you're studying and there's no publication/scrutiny of the underlying statistical model and it's assumptions.

You'd probably have as much luck getting "accurate" results by going door to door asking "how happy are you?"... even though self-report surveys aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Fair enough, but it they was some similar poorly constructed study that made Obama look bad, the denizens here would be singing its praises....

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, or so I have heard...

PS I'll take Vermont over most any state for overall QOL....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment DadzMad
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While I do bitch and moan about living in the Peoples Republic of Madison, we do o.k. here in WI.  I just want to show this to everyone in the state, no matter their political stripe, and yell "Now lets not fuck it all up!!!"

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:33 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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I couldn't find the column for individual liberty and personal freedom. I guess that counts for shit.

The list is bullshit. But I'm going to keep that under my hat. The last thing we need here in Bama is more Yankee fucksticks moving down here in an attempt to escape their socialist paradises - and then turning right around and trying to recreate the very shit here that they fled from. 

Just leave us the fuck alone. Is that too much to ask?

 

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 17:22 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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Yep. Texas #18. That's right, stay away from here, it's real bad down here.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Cobra
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& NH #3... Horse shit!!! STAY AWAY FROM THIS God Forsaken Place!!! Outright slavery!!!

/sarc

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Psquared
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Is it possible to list these with an "R" or "D" beside them to indicate which party is in power?

I live in South Carolina (#6) and while I am a fortunate one I can tell that things are not going well for most residents.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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If the electorate can't get over its infatuation with  Mark "La Vida Loco" Sanford then it is unlikely to ever move forward....

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 18:34 | Link to Comment monad
Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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It is only true 80% of the time.... and without a doubt the R's making up that 20% are some of most ill suited backward looking evangelical neanderfucks  to hold elected office, e.g.  King from Iowa, Gohmert from Texas and Bachmann from Minmesota...  For every piece of Dem shit like Charlie Rangel, there are 3 or 4 Repubs as vile...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 22:59 | Link to Comment monad
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If you tap that link, more will be revealed...

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment Cloud9.5
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Please note that Florida is no 12.  It is a hot swampland full of alligators and mosquitos.  The Glades are overrun with pythons and Miami has flesh eating zombies.    On top of that one out of five Floridians are probably packing heat. And don’t forget the hurricanes.  If you are considering a warmer climate, please move to California and if you have any friends down here, encourage them to move with you.

Tue, 06/25/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment pagan
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Never been to the States. If I as the ignoramus I am would chose a place to live in the US. I would take San Fransisco or San Diego.

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