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Chinese Politburo: "The United States Has Turned Out To Be The Biggest Villain In Our Age"
You know the U.S. has hit rock bottom not so much when the official mouthpiece of the Chinese politburo accuses America of being the "biggest villain in our age", but when more and more Americans think it may be 100% correct.
From BBC:
China's official Xinhua news agency has condemned the US over continuing revelations about Washington's surveillance activities by intelligence fugitive Edward Snowden.
In a commentary, it said the US had turned out to be the "biggest villain in our age".
Xinhua says the latest allegations in the South China Morning Post, along with previous disclosures, are "clearly troubling signs".
"They demonstrate that the United States, which has long been trying to play innocent as a victim of cyber-attacks, has turned out to be the biggest villain in our age," says Xinhua.
"It owes too an explanation to China and other countries it has allegedly spied on. It has to share with the world the range, extent and intent of its clandestine hacking programs."
Xinhua says the Snowden developments provide support for China's position on cybersecurity.
"Both the United States and China, together with many other countries, are victims of hacking. For the uncharted waters of the Internet age, these countries should sit down and talk through their suspicions," says Xinhua.
"With good intentions, they can even work for the establishment of certain rules that help define and regulate Internet activities and mechanisms that can work out their differences when frictions do arise."
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If China decides to wag the dog (for economic reasons) then Snowden may be the trailhead.
Obummer and the Chinese leaders have an agreement to pursue this Snowden affair so as to help keep both the U.S.and Chinese populations unfocused on their coming economic demise. Putin is also playing his role....several pooches are being wagged.
Putin now sending S-400 surface to air missiles to Syria, in addition to the very capable S-300's already in position. Quite literally his line in the sand. The S-400's are considered by the experts to be the absolute best. Either the Rothschild led psychopaths stop their march eastward (to bring their democracy to the rest of our benighted globe and save lives/sarc) or we are going to see a lot of very bright flashes and big mushrooms. They will destroy the village in order to save it.
I am gladdened that a serious Civil authority has spoken so clearly
Face it guys, spying on foreign countries has been a necessity since the beginning of time and I hope that we do it better than everyone else. On the other hand, domestic spying needs to be controlled and used within the law. The problem is that our political system is as corrupt as our financial system since it is run by the same people. When government agencies are used to destroy political opposition we are just a few years away from a totalitarian state.
WTF you smoking? We're been there for years.
there is no distinction.
in wholesale spying (observation of EVERYTHING)
in trade secrets (business is global)
in "the foreigner" or "the citizen"
this is a global problem of a group of people trying to now seize control over the very system they've helped to wreck..
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-06-19/first-congressman-allowe...
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/ttip/questions-and-answers/
No wonder the chinese are pissed off. The TPP is about the asian sphere of influence.
It's also a welcome opportunity to them to garner sympathy.
This is the new reality of global business: cartels that stretch beyond the seperate spheres of interest (like banking, agro business, media, militairy, etc.) It's "almost" like the former communist bloc. (which wasn't really communist but hey.. it's all about perception)
it's a mess, and I think they did that on purpose.
Rumour has it that Snowden files contain Obama's Birth and all Personal History records.
Maybe even Jesus' birth certificate. Gotta hand it to that guy. He really worked his terminal.
PUBLIC ENEMY, MATRIX, MINORITY REPORT......
Americans have been warned by their own Hollywood millions of times, and the sheep are they weren't the target...talking about hand in the sand..
Yeah, the Oligarchs are about to finalize the fleecing of the sheeple and turn us into mutton (and that is not meant figuratively). Short mutton. Long physical Soylent Green from your local supermercado.
I don't think we need to pay any attention to criticism from a country that aggressively spies on its own citizens, imprisons people who speak against the government, lies about pretty much everything from economic statistics to the quality of the food they produce and is run by a political system that pretends to be a democracy while in fact guarantees perpetual rule by a small oligarchy that owns the entire country.
Yeah, I don't take the crap that the USSA releases very seriously either.
Please be more specific.
Seriously? Anyway, I don't have time, I'm still trying to track down who to talk to in the NSA about getting a backup of my system from a couple of weeks ago. You'd think in the interest of public service they could make the bureaucracy a little easier to navigate.
Villain!
Made in China. Whoever let that happen, need to hang.
what happens when you draw from incorrect analogies. wall street promoted China as post-war Japan. (recall when the term Made in Japan signified cheap products) when China isn't post-war Japan it's America in the 30's, industrializing. then its a capitalist state (with central planning) not the eastern flipside of Soviet Russia. (Soviet Union collapsed recall) so it was look the other way and make money, with the blessing of elected officials Clinton and Bush, who were bought and paid for, never mind. before China there was the maquiladora in Mexico, which made sense, but the rise of China stopped that cold, Mexico went back into poverty, we had to build a trillion dollar fence (and build it again) to keep them out, so we could subsidize communists at the expense of our catholic neighbors to the south. there's not enough rope ss
The final straw for me was HSBC. Laundering money for the Sinaloa cartel, Iran, and Al Qaeda. The "worst of the worst", according to the official Cheney/Obama narrative. And what happens to the HSBC execs responsible? Nothing. Gov. yawns and simply takes a share of the profits.
The war on drugs? The war on terror? The official narrative was just a psyops aimed at the sheep. Now we have the next psyops: the war on whistleblowers, the war on the Constitution and those who uphold it.
How deep does the corruption go? How thick are the lies? All the way to the basements of Fort Meade.
Basement of Ft. Detrick also
fyi, HSBC was built on the back of the 19th c. opium trade with the blessing of the Crown.
a cliche' about leopards & spots seems to fit here.
Yes. Although in this case blatantly In Your Face. They do whatever the fuck they please with no more consequence that a wrist slap.
Nothing new for HSBC - they have a history.
Money. Power. Resources. He who has the Gold makes the rules. Same as it ever was.
One thing that is changing however, is that despite great odds and an abysmal general education system, more and more are starting to wake up. Especially the younger generation.
I did a lot of fucking work to uncover for myself the 9/11 fraud and then they drop this gift of the HSBC settlement right on our dinner plate. No secrets to overhear, no conspiracy to unravel and no whistleblowers required. Even a blind man can see this turd on the plate.
Obama is one giant loon...
In his original campaign for the presidency, he asserted that he would be open and transparent and it was clear to the world that he offered America to rejoin the ranks of the civilised world, after Bush had caused so such damage to the nation's global image and respect.
Yet here we are, as president in office he is outdoing Bush at damaging America and its global image. He's turning the office of POTUS into a laughing stock. Most damaging of all is that we know he does not speak for all of America. It's past time that he woke up, got a grip and took some very serious and urgent action to sort out the mess of his own making. Or be impeached for violating the American Constitution which he took an oath to uphold.
My diarrhea is more transparent.
He is open and transparent. He opens all the communications you have and makes them transparent to anyone who wants to psychoanalyze you.
So I guess China will not be buying to many more treasuries from here on out.....i would not..I would start selling them in mass...and buying gold and silver...ask for the delivery...and watch that fail...then all hell breaks loose...
what exchange UST for something with negative yield? preposterous
That would fuck us really good.
My father used to tell me.... "Son? You act like an asshole, you get treated like one..."
Hmm. If I was China, would I want to buy paper promises from the biggest villain of our age? Not bloody likely. Keep printing Ben, keep printing.
It's the Internet, stupid!
Park a Celestial SSBN just off the 12-mile limit, surface and fly the Chicom Flag.
Hey China Kommies; we will stop spying when you stop stealing our technology because you are too lazy to create you own.
China must be worried their US Treasury holdings are not worth what they thought... Stupid idiots. First of all let me say they are not a helluva lot better than the US when it comes to this spying and there economic shenanigans. Let alone their stealing of company trade secrets.
We definately have a lot of cleanup work to do here though. Alot. Starting with Barack Hussein Obama the next thing to Mao.
Looks like Barack has a big stream of diarrhea dripping from his dicksucking face.
Cyber Weapons and Warfare development will follow the same path as nuclear weapons. First, everyone wants it to dominate and control their enemies. Inevitably, everyone will eventually have it via legitimate and illegitimate tech transfer. Then we’ll decide it’s too dangerous for anyone to have and spend the next eon and ten times as much as we spent to develop it in the first place trying in vain to prevent our greatest enemies from using it against us.
Brilliant, if your goal was to keep the NSA employed forever.
If only Stanley Kubrick were still around to make a cyber-sequel to Dr. Strangelove. Alas, everyone would probably go see World War Z and its recently announced sequel instead, because you know, zombies are just sooo cool.
Actually, domestic spying is the least of our problems. We only have 1 1/2 political parties in the US since half of the Republicans are RINOs! The government agencies, educational system and media is controlled by this party. The educational system and media make sure that the voters remain ignorant and blame all the failures on the remaining 1/2 party and allied conservative groups. I really don't see this ending well for a country based on the original constitution and bill of rights.
"We only have 1 1/2 political parties in the US"
No, we have one political party in the US, the corporate owned one. Guns, gays, and god are just the different hot button topics they use to bring out the ignorant faithful on election day.
"Guns, gays, and god are just the different hot button topics they use to bring out the ignorant faithful on election day."
You might as well add Global Warming into that mix also. They are all very handy tools used to divide the opposition. "United we stand, Divided we fall."
I agree. These have been settled issues for a long time. The aggressive push for gun control, gay marriage and secularization has forced the strong and loyal into fighting battles that should never have surfaced. In the mean time while being forced into resisting this huge attack on culture the world has been stolen beneath our feet. I wonder if the NSA is behind all the gay marriage referendums, gun control initiatives and supposed ACLU attacks on public symbols of piety...
china hasn't a leg to stand on, not on human rights, environmental issues, product safety, open and free elections (stop when i'm wrong), military provocations against the US, support of a rogue state, North Korea, product dumping violations, mandated family planning, piracy of intellectual property, persecution of buddhists in tibet, and pegging the dollar. there's probably more..
You are so correct.
The real irony, that Chinese leaders are even more amoral than our own.
Yes, we damned sure aren't rose scented and lily white pure, but for China to call the US that is laughably hypocritical.
Well, in the interest of Freedom and Justice... I say give them Barry O'Duchebag to try for these high crimes... if he is innocent... he will be fine. Trey Gowdy can step in while our "Dear Leader" is gone...
Do as we say, and not as we do...bitchez.
I have met fucknuts, and he is US.
China does not have 800+ military bases spread around the world... IF we have to fight for our freedom [we don't have to fight and besides, we have little freedom] let's stay home and let them come to us [they won't]...THEREFORE, we are probably the villians [I know I was one in Vietnam - drafted, I would never volunteer for getting shot at or blown up for anything...].
you didnt' volunteer, unless you signed up for the extra year.. either way you only had to do one tour
Well, to be fair, the democratic Chinese government has had its hands full murdering tens upon tens of millions of its own anticommunist, reactionary and unproductive citizens over the last sixty odd years.
You know you're fucked when the Chicoms and the Russians say a lot more truth about the US in a sentence than the US medias or the US government do in a year.
Whodathunk that Al-Jezerra and RT would be more open and honest than any media outlet in the US.
"With good intentions, they can even work for the establishment of certain rules that help define and regulate Internet activities and mechanisms that can work out their differences when frictions do arise."
Ah yes, the end game of the NSA scandal - strangulation of the internet. Because the governments of the US and China are hacking each other, we obviously need SOPA/PIPA/ACTA to the tenth power to punish those evil whistleblowers government dissidents hackers in order to help everyone play nice.
Granted, the Chinese probably did kill millions of its OWN citizens. If the US had stayed home after WWII, the world would have been a much more peaceful place. Chinese killing Chinese is a problem I can't do much about....
For all the wars Europeans have fought (evil White man, evil) the Chinese sure know how to mow down their own every hundred years or so. If you want to add the Mongols into the picture it ain't pretty.
How to identify CIA limited hangout op? | Dr. Webster G. Tarpley
Tue Jun 18, 2013
The operations of secret intelligence agencies aiming at the manipulation of public opinion generally involve a combination of cynical deception with the pathetic gullibility of the targeted populations.
There is ample reason to believe that the case of Edward Joseph Snowden fits into this pattern. We are likely dealing here with a limited hangout operation, in which carefully selected and falsified documents and other materials are deliberately revealed by an insider who pretends to be a fugitive rebelling against the excesses of some oppressive or dangerous government agency.
But the revelations turn out to have been prepared with a view to shaping the public consciousness in a way which is advantageous to the intelligence agency involved. At the same time, gullible young people can be duped into supporting a personality cult of the leaker, more commonly referred to as a “whistleblower.” A further variation on the theme can be the attempt of the sponsoring intelligence agency to introduce their chosen conduit, now posing as a defector, into the intelligence apparatus of a targeted foreign government. In this case, the leaker or whistleblower attains the status of a triple agent.
. . .
Assange’s Wikileaks document dump triggered numerous destabilizations and coups d’état across the globe. Not one US, British, or Israeli covert operation or politician was seriously damaged by this material. The list of those impacted instead bears a striking resemblance to the CIA enemies’ list: the largest group of targets were Arab leaders slated for immediate ouster in the wave of “Arab Spring.” Here we find Ben Ali of Tunisia, Qaddafi of Libya, Mubarak of Egypt, Saleh of Yemen, and Assad of Syria. The US wanted to replace Maliki with Allawi as prime minister of Iraq, so the former was targeted, as was the increasingly independent Karzai of Afghanistan. Perennial targets of the CIA included Rodriguez Kirchner of Argentina, Berlusconi of Italy, and Putin of Russia. Berlusconi soon fell victim to a coup organized through the European Central Bank, while his friend Putin was able to stave off a feeble attempt at color revolution in early 2012. Mildly satiric jabs at figures like Merkel of Germany and Sarkozy of France were included primarily as camouflage.
Assange thus had a hand in preparing one of the largest destabilization campaigns mounted by Anglo-American intelligence since 1968, or perhaps even 1848.
If the Snowden operation can help coerce the vacillating and reluctant Obama to attack Syria, our new autistic hero may claim credit for starting a general war in the Middle East, and perhaps even more. If Snowden can further poison relations between United States and China, the world historical significance of his provocations will be doubly assured. But none of this can occur unless he finds vast legions of eager dupes ready to fall for his act. We hope he won’t.
http://tarpley.net/2013/06/19/how-to-identify-a-cia-limited-hangout-operation/
SEE ALSO:
Gordon Duff | Veterans Today
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/15/are-whistleblowers-sometimes-too...
they don't know how far you can pushed if they don't push you
there's a pro-China troll on this site
Axis of Evil:
US+UK
Gordon-Gekko,
Thread winner,
Damn fucking straight, we have seen evil mate, it is us.
(UK).
Saudi Arabia, US and UK is the new axis of evil. The kicker is that Saudi Arabia is the leader of the pack, not the US. It's so bad that I wish Jimmy Carter is our president again.
That is absolutely right, the elitist in China love to portray us as an enemy but they are really in the same corrupt boat, probably 100x worse than what we are in America..
I know most people have not been to china who are American, but I have and if you think the laws are draconian here, go to China and see how far you can get for speaking out against the government or if you simply want to lead a prayer service in public.
So the American logic is this:
"We are evil, but they are more evil. Therefore, our evil is justified."
Those communists can really scream loud.
*YAWN*
So what's for lunch?
Due time for another consitutional convention to take place, ASAP.
In other news, the sky is blue.
http://www.sovereignman.com/personal-privacy/how-to-give-the-nsa-the-finger-12123/
I used to think we are the good guys. Oh well, at least now, I know we are the bad guys.
In this morning's Radio news (Melbourne) there was an item covering the current spat between the US and China. Seems that the US High Command are a litte upset that China didn't roll over and deport Mr Snowden like good little lackeys, rather thay did what was in their interests (and I'd argue Global interests) and ensured his departur3e to "locations unknown".
I particularly liked the comment that "by doing this China has severely damaged the development of mutual trust".
So, it's OK for the US to hack into Chinese (and everyone else's) telecoms and IT infrastructure - this obviously has no effect on "mutual trust" - but Heaven forbid anyone that dares to show just how much trust abuse the US doles out.
This is beyond jaw-dropping hypocrisy. This is the mindset "we do whatever we like Woldwide and no-one else may even slightly inconvenience us".
Looking forward to seeing what other leaks Mr Snowden releases. Hope these do just as much damage to the facade of "Global Superhero", and maybe a few million others will start to wake
When the US releases tripe like this - you know everyone else is having a good laugh - and the World in supporting China for their stand against Global Terrorism - the US variety.
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/World/2013/06/25/Snowden_damaged_US-China_relations_882587.html
Wonder what would happen to the US "economy" should the Chinese decide to offload all those T-Bills? "First" World to Third World in the blink of an eye, and don't expect your "friends" to help out - America's "pissed in their Porridge" too many times in the past.
The pot calling the kettle black. Now agent Obama can justify turning the remaining tech & intel over to his despotic masters.
Chinese Empire inside.
wow.
chinese communist kid eater saying to USA that they are the biggest villain in this era.
seems legit.