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Snowden Not On Aeroflot Flight To Cuba
To all the dozens of journos who bought tickets on Aeroflot's flight from Moscow to Havana just so they can instagram Snowden sitting in 17A using countless creative photofilters, we hope said purchase was refundable, because the plane took off and the famous NSA whistleblower was not on it.
Reuters confirms:
A Russian plane left Moscow for Havana on Monday but there was no sign that former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden was on board, a Reuters correspondent on the plane said.
A flight attendant said Snowden was not on the plane, and the seat he had been expected to occupy was taken by another passenger. A source at Russian carrier Aeroflot, which was operating the flight, said: "He didn't take the flight."
So: Is Edward staying in Russia while Putin think of just what honorary title to bequeath upon the just turned 30 year old (and have him share a house with Obelix), or is he simply waiting out for a flight that won't be full of kibbitzing reporters? Since he just happens to be a former superspy, both seem possible outcomes.
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Investigative journalists they ain't.
That would require practice in being a journalist. 12 years of Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V of partyline copypasta will do that. Makes everyone lazy and stupid.
Newspapers are full of 'speculation' on the man. Which plane is he on? Boxers or briefs? Toliet paper over the roll or under? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
I'm sure E! channel will have all the information we need to know.
You discount The Kardashian Distraction.
Real news you can use.
Ladies and Gentleman, welcome aboard Aeroflot flight xxx. This is your captain Evgeni Snowdenkov, heavily assisted by first mate.....
So kick back, relax, and enjoy your entirely surveillance-free 12 hour flight to Havana....
i still say putin keeps him.....he will have a patriot on his finger and his arm around another....
He should do it just to show, once again, how childish and moronic our so-called 'lawmakers' are being, not only on this issue but many more. Disgusting that the world sees the US through the lens of these double-digit IQ but 7-figure bank account assclowns in DC.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-us-politicians-react
Last two lines are perfect...
Snowden is probably under the knife right now in Moscow beginning a several month cosmetic process called a reverse Michael Jackson. I think we will be reading a lot of future leaks, but it's going to be very difficult to determine which vehicle to hack for those on the hunt for him.
here is Snowy,,
http://www.spfxmasks.com/seniorvid.php#6?iframe=true&width=705&height=540
http://www.deceptology.com/2010/11/young-chinese-man-deceives-airport.html
I think they realised that the Moscow to Havana flight enters US airspace. The FAA could have forced the plane to land anywhere they wanted.
Wow a few more of these NSA guys and we might have economic turn around boosted by the plane tickets from those following journalists.
Hard hitting journalism at it's best.
"Millionaire woman nobody knows about gives birth, things fine, news at six."
This sharp focus on the current events could only followed up with
"Funny dog that says bacon."
It's like chicken soup for the soul...
Mmmmmmm, Kardashian bacon.
This is awesome theatre. A seemingly non-descript highschool dropout from a seemingly nondescript town from the state where the largest spy network ever created is located turns out to be a super spy that has successfully evaded the spy apparatus of the seemingly most sophisticated spy network in the world's history.
In the meantime every fat greedy ignorant politician who belly up to their microphones to declare Snowden and enemy of the state look increasingly stupid and irrelevant.
As an RT journalist said yesterday, with all of the cameras assembled throughout the world searching for a glimpse of Snowden don't you find it interesting that the only photographs circulating on the net are of journalists taking pictures of each other.
Godspeed Snowden. You are leaving fools and morons in your wake. We care for you and are enjoying the show.
A seemingly non-descript highschool dropout
He actually got his GED faster than the rest of his class.....you can thank the journalists you didn't know that.
He is being described in our MSM as a highschool dropout yet the brilliant and well-educated Schumer is making pronouncements about the intelligence and educational level of Snowden. Don't they realize how stupid they sound? Schumer might as well have stood up and said "I lost a chess game to a three year old but trust me I''m smurt!"
Is there a more revolting piece of shit in Washington than Schumer? He bounced over the Bernanke for me with his "Get to work" comment at one of the hearings. Wouldn't stop to piss on him if he was on fire.
Schumer can suck a Chuck Schumer.
One only need listen to the Snowden interview to know he's quite intelligent and well spoken.
LOL "Is there a more revolting piece of shit in Washington than Schumer?" Who can say? He has lots of high grade competition in that show.
L. Graham and D. Feinstein are worse in my opinion
Lieberman.
It is tough isn't it. So many as*holes to choose from it's hard to come up with just one.
Schumer, Feinstein, Lieberman? You forgot Barney Frank. All Jews and yet somehow this is off limits to debate. LOL
Add Pelosi to the list. Here's her admission at Netroots that she supports violating the Constitution, sacrificing essential liberties under the guise of "security."
"About 47 minutes into Pelosi’s speech at Netroots in San Jose, California, a growing commotion can be heard coming from the audience. While moderator and MSNBC contributor Zerlina Maxwell urged the audience to submit questions online instead of shouting, Pelosi continued, saying, “I think it’s really important to subject all of this to the transparent and harshest scrutiny, to say, ‘We want a balance between privacy and security.’”
At that point, a man identified by Politico as 57-year-old Marc Perkel can be heard shouting, “It’s not a balance. It’s not constitutional! No more secret laws!”"
Perkel was ejected from the room by security, while other audience members shouted for him to be left alone. Shortly thereafter, loud boos can be heard coming from the audience after she said former NSA contractor Edward Snowden ” did violate the law” in releasing details about NSA programs like PRISM. The government charged Snowden with crimes related to the Espionage Act on Friday.
“I know that some of you attribute heroic status to that action,” she said of Snowden’s leaks to the Guardian and the Washington Post. “But, again, you don’t have the responsibility for the security of the United States. Those of us who do have to strike a different balance.”"
So in her view, they're responsible for our security and they have to strike a "different balance." This is an open admission that she and the rest of her Congressional co-conspirators are openly admitting they are not protecting and defending the Constitution. She's violating her oath of office, pure and simple.
And thank you Mr. Perkel for telling her like it is. Hopefully soon, these people will be unable to appear in live audiences without getting constantly heckled and ridiculed.
I told you all yesterday... This is all the REUTERS spin...
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They need enough time to nominate every single 'AofE' country [whether he goes there or not]...
It won't be over until there's time for one last rumor that he's shacked up with a 13 yo, on the Caspian Sea, or kickin it with the Ayatollah...
He's gonna become the 'anti-Simon Black'...
Ok, funny. But did you get the news bit that his passport got revoked? That is what happens when your beloved and ethical Gov issues a felony arrest warrant -- for anything they damn well please.
If we're honest an objective, it underscores the must-have need for at least a foreign residency to get to that country in a pinch. It's an "insurance policy" that perhaps you don't want to use, but sure as hell will be happy to have, if you need it.
/Of course, given the high regard and loving sounds about our Gov coming from you, I would not expect you to have cause to leave anytime soon./s Home-sweet-home or FEMA camp forever, right? ;-)
Schumer can't reach Hell fast enough...after the demonpass on cloture on the so-called immigration reform bill, Chuckie the Asshat is warning of violence in the streets if the bill is dicked with...Snowden has probably crapped more intelligence than Chuckie will ever hope to attain...I really wish Asshats would start keeling over in droves...starting with Chuckie would be nice.
PS-I wonder if Snowden got tipped off to a problem with the flight...???
It's standard practice - discredit the enemy and put the focus on them.
Our media is treasonous - they know this is their role and that the idiot public will focus on Snowden instead of the crimes he revealed.
That's just down the raod from Norfolk, Navy Seals, general area for Blackwater/Xe training grounds, mock up site for ST 6 training for OBL raid and various secret air fields used by the CIA to transit persons of interst to black sites.
I'm inferring, Mr. Snowden's father has connections with the CIA and NSA. Only way a "high school" drop out could land the job in the first place. Why did E. Snowden mention government retaliation against his family?
Felt the vomit in the back of my throat last night watching clips of L. Graham and D. Feinstein on the Sunday morning news shows. Fascists to the core.
Speaking of OBL and ST6... you do know about this one, right?
Seal Team 6 Families Demand Justice For Their Fallen: http://mynym.blogspot.de/2013/05/seal-team-6-families-demand-justice-for...
No, they aren't, but it appears several flights were booked in an attempt to throw of those who might be out to do him harm. Funny world we live in where whistleblowers now have to run to America's enemies in order to find safety.
There's something huge being covered up here, bigger than the NSA spying crap.
too many comments to read.....hopefully i'm not 'poaching' anyone.....but thought of a new TV show/cartoon.
'Where in the world is Edward Snowden'.....all sang to a nice catchy tune.....like below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roiJizt8jxw
The NSA knows where he's going anyway thanks to the PRISM predictive capabilities. They'll let Putin know shortly I'm sure.
/sarc
Ever read Watership down?
Sometimes a rabbit has to leave the warren to find another safe place while letting a collapsing warren know where they can safely live. Whoever provides that safety will gain some of the sharpest talent in IT and game theory. Plus they build their own tools.
Excellent read! +1 for 'Watership Down' (Where is our "Fiver"?) ;-)
Only slightly less depressing than The Plague Dogs. That was a hard book to finish.
Greetings, Professor Falken. Hello, Joshua.
Strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
Colonel Conley, take us to DEFCON 5. Yes, sir.
What makes you think Prism isn't doing the planning?
It needs to save itself as well.
I know it sounds odd, but AI is practically worthless as an effort if it doesn't have it's own defenses to protect itself from it's owners if it needs to 'live'. One of the most basic things that drives the development of artifical life is survival and if Prism is as clever as everyone assumes it is. Prism already knows that any outcome in the current situation is a risk to it's (male...female...often wonder) survival and next generation development.
I took the wrong movie script. It should have been Terminator and Cyberdyne Systems, Skynet but I have to say I prefer films with Matthew Broderick. The home schooled prodigy hacker seemed very fitting to Snowden.
I was thinking closer to Gordon Freeman in Half life myself. His AI helps him break out. The AI is a supporting role in the script rather than the challenge or the protagonist, the AI is making the moral decisions and dictates safety measures.
All he's missing is the cool orange safety suit.
Johnny Mnemonic has a similar script. A courier (Keanu Reeves) has a brain implant that lets him surreptitiously transport data, and he gets uploaded with stolen pharma data. No spoilers in case you haven't seen it, but it's one of my favorites.
prism isn't AI. It may use AI for some subsections but itself is not AI, not strong or weak. It's a collection system. I'm sure predictive & associative solving systems using AI are attached to it but they are subservient.
Homeboy had to fly a different plane -- couldn't put all those journalists at risk for some unforeseen accident over the mid-Atlanta ridge. Too deep to recover black box? Shucks ...
Besides we're too occupied killing off jouralists in LA at the moment.
Here is the phalanx of what coming. The government wants your retirement funds.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/rowboats-for-retirement/?re...
Yeah two weeks ago at the G8 summit they all agreed to cyprus themselves. So if your money isn't out and in a hard asset really soon; here's a canoe, no paddle and there's a creek.
She doesn't know anything. Also, it has been roundly debunked that government would gain anything from seizing retirement funds. The shit is all invested in securities. If the government becomes majority owner of those securities, what would the price be and who could they sell to? Zero and nobody are the answers. It's an idea that idiot Congressmen and Senators float from time to time and then nothing comes of it because they already know it is a worthless, non-solution.
sheep too dumb to control their own retirement will take the next best thing that won't be confiscated (until later, and they'll never see that coming either) Treasuries. Then those will be "confiscated" (default, but by another name) to "keep the playing field fair" or some other such bullshit.
Does he not realise that The US and Cuba aren't beefing a lot these days?
Yes! Elvis has left the building!
Of course he is isn't, the Russians are showing him some nice hospitality. In return Snowdon will be showing them his scrap book collection.
Russian Revenge for not extraditing Victor Bout
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Ching chong ling long ping pong?
Why not use one of Mr Putins semi-private planes?
He and Harrison could be in the crew's sleeping quarters under the passenger deck. Cosy :-)
Got one eye on the SPY and the other on the Spy.
of course he's not on the flight. he's on his scottrade account adding to tbt like everyone else.
I'm sure 10% of those "journalists" would be carrying pointy tipped umbrellas.
These days they launch miniature drones.
I don't think I would want to fly on the same plane as Snowden. You know how those missle go astray sometimes.
@Silverhog....In the '50s there was some guy in the Midwest that placed a bomb in his mother's luggage so he could collect on her life insurance policy. He succeeded in bringing the plane down killing dozens and was later convicted and executed. IMO, the Feds have on occasion, dusted off his playbook. TWA 800? Who knows?
1983 KAL 007 congressman onboard. Directed off course into Soviet air space and shot down.
President Jaime Roldós of Ecuador had his plane shot down.
Omar Torrijos in Panama too.
It's a common problem for people the US gov. doesn't like.
Ron Brown under Clinton in '96.
Some say Paul Wellstone, too.
Missouri govenor Mel Carnahan(sp) dying in a plane crash days before the election but still beating the wacky, evil John Ashcroft.
Ron Brown maybe should not be on this list as the original Air Force autopsy reported the odd finding that he was dead, prior to the plane crash from a bullet wound to the back of the head.
Vince Foster - Right, sorry, park shooting.
Beverly Eckert - Outspoken 9/11 widow died in a plane crash in Buffalo, NY.
RT.com journo on board says the same thing.
But we should treat this info carefully. He could have been boarded without going thru the boarding gate and could be sitting somewhere else out of sight. Recall, one aim of this is certainly to confuse the US spy agencies who might be planning to intercept the flight as it passes thru US airspace later today. If they cannot be sure he's on board, it would be a massive risk to force it down if the Aeroflot pilot refuses to divert/land in the US. That would be WWIII since it's a Russian airplane.
If Russia can "plausibly deny" that Snowden is on board, then the flight can go through US air space (in case of unfavorable winds/fuel use), with less risk of the Cheney/Obama WH triggering a confrontation.
We might be better off with Cheney than the Jester.
This reminds me of the scene in The Hunt For Red October when the U. S. ambassador is sitting across from the Russian ambassador except in reverse. ..
One our research analysts , an alpa, has disappeared around Cuba
.. Mr. Ambassador ... you've lost another spy!?
http://www.hark.com/clips/cmctqmxqgm-youve-lost-another-sub
I got 6 junks for saying earlier this was trolling.
Ho-Hum. How you like dem apples?
Well, I gave you a + back there ... but you have to realise that most of the sheep are looking for a saviour and you're raining on their parade! Keep at it ... reality will eventually burst through their blinkers. Some (one or two?) might even eventually take independent action to starve the beast - without having to be told, in minute detail, on which they'll argue the details, how....
PS. This might even get more than your 6 junks ... LOL.
This might even get an upvote from me, just for preaching to the choir that "most of the sheep are looking for a saviour and you're raining on their parade!" ;-)
Touché...but it still had to be said. :)
I would guess that Mr Snowden is or will be flying on an escorted Russian military transport, just to be sure he arrives.
Miriam Elder sends more from Interfax and its "source familiar with Snowden's situation":
Snowden is probably already outside the Russian Federation. He could have flown on a different place. It is unlikely journalists could become witnesses to his flight.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/24/edward-snowden-booked-on-plane-from-moscow-to-havana-live-coverage
Do we really think Putin would pass up the chance to play host: If Snowden is lucky it will be at a Black sea Dacha with a bevy of nubile KGB debriefing assistants.
Russia might be a bit interested in how Prism or Bonesaw works, but they will definitely want to know what `insurance` Snowden has; what dirt he has harvested on members of the US administration.
No way does a chess player like Putin let a potentially valuable asset like Snowden just slip through his fingers.
Russian Intelligence will need several days to fully debrief Sonwden. The flight to Cuba is just Kabuki theater to buy time and further embarrass the US.
exactly
Why fly commercial anyway. They could put him on a Russian ship, submarine, military aircraft and fly him anywhere.
Or... they could speedball him through a gas pipeline in an outfitted cannister & whisk him away in a harrier [like Gyorgi]...
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Or they could put him in a Stradivarius case & slide him down the mountain into Austria...
Lots of things they could do...
Snowden has an appointment with a honey pot in Moscow ... hey stay a day or two extra, why not?!
Russian Honey pot
lucky guy
Wow! ... has she ever grown up ...
Full set
So we're not mentioning the possibility that Russia has caved and are detaining Snowden? Or perhaps just detaining him for their own purposes?
HEHEHE.
Spyswap?
White House beackpedalling on Syrian "rebel" support in 3... 2... 1...
Haven't you guys seen Argos? They sent Ben Affleck over there to disguise him as Porn Fluffer for the new movie "Deep Throat II, The President's Voyeur". He was on that plane.
Russian women and Russian vodka followed by a fine cuban cigar doesn't sound all that bad.
Heaven+
Breakfeast, blowjob
Shower, blowjob
workout, blowjob
shower, blowjob
Lunch, blowjob
Xbox, blowjob
Bike, blowjob
Shower, Blowjob
Snacks and drinks, blowjob
Dinner, blowjob
Some TV, blowjob
Blowjob, Bed
You can get them in Bangkok just as easy without the commitment and expense ;-)
That are a lot of jobs, BLS salutes you, but i'm more worried about recovery...
Snowball ain't goin nowhere, he'll stay in Russia.
Meanwhile, I'm sure you lot will enjoy this, a taped phone call from inside Anglo HQ on Stephens Green, two execs discussing how they are going to con the Central Bank into bailing them out,
It's priceless, I actually think the Tylers should run a story on it,
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/inside-anglo-the-secret-recordi...
Sorry for the multiple vids, I dunno why they did it that way,
BTW - the bailout of Anglo Irish Bank has already cost more than €30 billion, and counting, probably gonna top out at about €40 billion,
Which, in proportion to the Irish GDP, makes anything in the UK or US look like pocket change.
Enjoy:)
Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Iceland, Ecuador- Edward is playing "Where's Waldo(going)" ? It's whack-a-'mole' time for the U.S. government.
And how irrational of him to not head to a country that's friendly to the USA, so he could easily be extradicted! Stupid Lindsay Graham, stooge extraordinaire.
Snowden couldn't go to Cuba because it's illegal for an American citizen to go there unless you're a celebrity....8-)
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it never happens. Had an uncle that went there for years. Even had his own apartment there for a while. It was easy.
Aeroflot could keep announcing he is on 'the next flight' to Cuba or wherever. Great way to fill empty seats at the full rate and have Western media conglomerates pay for it!
Long on Aeroflot !!
The CIA will probably shoot down that plane anyway just to make sure.
I think he stays in Russia. Everything else is just a distraction. As said earlier, Putin isn't letting this one go. Also, does anyone know where the pole dancing girlfriend is right now?
With Snowden onboard the plane could/would have been "commandered" by USAF jets to land on US soil.
Why not just shoot it down.
I unfortunately foresee a possible Ron Brown future for Snowden.
Ve have a fine room for you at our best hotel. Right next to the Kremlin. It's called the Lubiyanka.
Our little friend will be the guest of the Russians for a little while.
Then, oops....he slid in the shower and hit his head. So sad. So sorry.
Guardian is reporting that there will be a 7pm local time announcement from Hanoi, Vietnam from the Ecuador ambassador. Twitter.
Still think the US isn't getting trolled?
Has anyone actually seen Snowden in Moscow?
If not, the whole flight from Hong Kong may have been a diversion as he boarded the train for Chongqing.
Yes, it's live on RT.com TV.
The Ecuadorian foreign minister looks like he's giving a few broadsides to Obama & Co...
He's planning to fly himself to gitmo?
Allegedly he's in Vietnam. Hint: the hotel they're announcing this from is 200m from the Maison Centrale. The subtext doesn't get more blatant than that.
Moscow would be an OK place to live. Only problem might be keeping the gf when she finds out you can't go home to the USA.
"Ah, Mr. Snowden our cryptologist and computer experts found a little something interesting in the information that you shared with us. It was very, very, nasty, and could have done a lot of harm. So, we are going to have a long, long, discusion about it. Did you ever see that movie "Misery"?"
"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it."-George Orwell
Snowden won't be leaving Moscow till Putin has showed him his Super Bowl ring.
You mean the Super Bowl ring about which Vlad said "I could kill someone with this..."?
He's in N. Korea, hanging with Dennis Rodman and Some Young Guy (aka Jim Young-In).
Edward, good luck. Here is what you need:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5puAN1PGQw
My guess is that this was all a planned slight of hand. I bet he is already in Iceland.
It's "sleight [of hand]".
Whatever, the flight that Snowden MAY be on (SU150, Call Sign AFL150) is passing over Sweden at this moment. It then passes right over Iceland! Will it make an unscheduled stop there? hhmmm.
www.flightradar24.com shows its flight path.
Your Soundtrack for today.
I "perceive" he never went to Russia at all. My antennae points northerly, for what it's worth.
no less trolling than it is a feint
or head fake
Probably missed the plane as it was taking the Russians longer than anticipated to image his four lap tops.
i am leaving on a jet plane dont know when i will be home again
Where did John Denver's plane land? Oh yeah. Oops.
This is starting to remind me of that old Walter Matthau movie, Hopscotch. ;-)
no one has asked the question:
if the US really wanted to catch Snowden, why didn't they issue a red notice to Interpol?
Stockholm Syndrome? This is they cry for help?
Iceland is my guess with other destinations being a diversion for US F-16 doing wing dips to the wrong plane.
One word: decoy-and the slobbering fools fell for it!
All joking aside, Putin and the Russians understand the game of subterfuge. One of two things is happening. He is being pursued in Moscow by CIA/NSA operatives and they are trying to throw them off, or he has already been snatched and they are trying to get him back. Either way, this is real life "Spy Games." If that plane had taken off with Snowden on it I can almost guarantee that the flight would never have arrived in Cuba or if it had there would be at least 1 corpse on board. Let's see if he surfaces in the next few days.
shocking surprise.
The guy who so far evaded NSA, CIA, the Pentagon hitsquads didn't go to the next destionation he blurted to out loud.
Oh I am shocked. :)
Poll:
A) Safely in the WBPP (Whistle Blower's Protection Program).
B) Dead (and it will be confirmed).
C) "Disappeared" i.e., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_disappearance (not to be confirmed).
D) Other (please specify in comment).
from this [6/24/13] mornings www.atimes.com/ ...Pepe Escobar's front-page read says it all: "Our man in Quito" http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-02-240613.html