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Gold Drops Below Its Average Cash Cost

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As shown two months ago, the marginal cost of production of gold (90% percentile) in 2013 was estimated at $1300 including capex. Which means that as of a few days ago, gold is now trading well below not only the cash cost, but is rapidly approaching the marginal cash cost of $1104...

 

 

Which means that of the following mines (as we showed here) which make up the gold cost curve, one by one, starting on the right and going left, production is going to go dark, even without the recent demand by South African gold miner labor unions to have their wages doubled. Until eventually virtually no gold will be produced.

 

 

It is at that point where one must apply the New Normal supply and demand curve, when one can predict a $0 per ounce price for gold, as physical demand continues unabated, while actual physical, not paper, production has now started going offline.

 

Joking aside, not even Bernanke and all the paper Gold ETFs in the world will be able to do much to suppress gold prices from reaching their fair value when gold production hits a standstill, and when demands, especially by China, is still in the hundreds of tons each year.

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Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:07 | 3695634 Dareconomics
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The gold rout continues.  Slowing world economic growth, taper talk and the lack inflation are the major culprits.  Gold will remain a poor investment for the immediate future, but it is still valuable as a disaster hedge.

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/around-the-globe-06-26-2013/

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:12 | 3695662 greatbeard
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>> the lack inflation

Lack of inflation?  I'm guessing you don't run a mining operation, nor a household.  Go buy a bag of groceries and then tell me there's no inflation.  Got a cat or a dog you buy food for?  Eat canned fruit? Go to the doctor? No inflation?  Seriously?

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:17 | 3695706 Spastica Rex
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You're not applying hedonic adjustments properly.

THAT WAS A JOKE

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:18 | 3695714 ParkAveFlasher
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Gold = orange juice

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:24 | 3695754 Spider
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If you use all-in costs gold is bigtime negative now...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1346991-the-true-all-in-cost-to-mine-gold-complete-2012-figures

Not much gold going to be around next year - i'll buy mine now

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 13:41 | 3695867 DoChenRollingBearing
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The Central Bank of DoChenRollingBearing shares your view, and will be buying physical gold as funding permits.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 14:43 | 3696180 Triggernometry
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BUTFT

[Back Up The Fucking Truck]

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 15:08 | 3696229 ZerOhead
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Welcome to the final act of 'Voodoo Economics' the play about making lots of money.

In Act IV Scene II not only do deficits no longer matter... production costs now don't either.

 

"Let the Good Times Roll" until the wheels fall off...

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 15:08 | 3696303 disabledvet
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"start digging with your hands bitch. where's my money." move along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a97cOa2Sy9A

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 15:52 | 3696512 The Shootist
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AG in a mind boggling 62% correction. Stawks -5%?

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 16:14 | 3696602 knukles
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Somebody around hereabouts used to say it only cost $5 to mine.
I hate this disinformation!

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 16:45 | 3696678 ZerOhead
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It costs less than $5 a barrel to lift light crude in many of the Persian Gulf states but that doesn't affect prices downward much does it?

There are producers who could profitably extract gold for $400 an ounce and there are producers who need $1,200 or more to produce profitably. There is also a lot of gold that is brought into being as a by-product of the production of some other base metal like copper.

The largest producing gold mine in the world, the Grasberg mine in Papua, Indonesia, is primarily a copper mine.[6]

I can imagine that a lot of the new production being brought on-line is of the $1,200 type... you know marginal projects that were sidelined for years until the prices were high enough to permit economic extraction... supply could get even uglier if copper prices ever plunge...

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:03 | 3696770 boogerbently
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If miners DOUBLE their price, what's the rest of the world going to do......not buy it ???

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:46 | 3696947 DaddyO
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Buy, Buy Buy!!!!

Went by the LCS today and they had nothing!!!!

Owner told me she got 3400oz of silver on Saturday and sold out yesterday.

What the heck does this mean? /sarc

Great buying opportunity, that's what it means...

DaddyO

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 23:14 | 3697902 The Shootist
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"If miners DOUBLE their price, what's the rest of the world going to do......not buy it ???"
You forget, unlike OPEC, an organization that supports profits for members, the World Gold Counceil enacts "Brown's Bottom" type moves constanly in trying to destroy the industry. (Their infiltrated by paper pushers.)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 00:46 | 3698097 Supernova Born
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China?

Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.

NewThor is correct. It is going to take an apocalyptic event for gold to achieve actual price discovery.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 01:17 | 3698153 Manthong
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M F freakin crap..

go price a Rolex President to figure it out.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 00:48 | 3698104 The Navigator
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Same story here in SoCal DaddyO

Went to my LCS yesterday, no silver - but they had some 30 Morgans/Peace clunkers - I bought 15 @ $22/each.

Great buying opportunity if inventory can be found.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 20:13 | 3697337 CPL
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They tripled it actually.

 

 

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 20:52 | 3697456 old naughty
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b,b...but China has so many AU mines thay can come on stream, no?

 

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 23:19 | 3697911 CPL
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Considering China has been mining them for 3500 years, only way they are getting anything out of them if they are pulling a BreX and shoveling coins down the hole at market cost.

 

Definition of a liar, man standing over an empty hole telling you something valuable is down there.  Works in oil and mining for some unknown reason.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 18:49 | 3697126 Dugald
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400 to 1200 is right on the moeny.....a chum recently discovered a deposit in

Victoria (Oz) which was promptly snapped up by the chopstick jockeys....

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:06 | 3697483 disabledvet
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"King Dollar" isn't the only currency out there. i do agree "where is the deflation?" but gold...let alone silver...doesn't collapse in price as they have "because inflation is imminent." the precious only does this because FALLING prices are imminent. the "math" simple enough: "i can think of a lot of things less valuable than gold." here's some interesting math to make you go "hmmmmm": http://seekingalpha.com/article/1523292-crude-oil-and-gasoline-inventori... this is the "middle of the driving season" folks. guess what...Americans have stayed home. "and this is the second month in a row for this type of build." these are MASSIVE numbers and even MORE massive "missed estimates." believe somebody is massively long this b.s. AND THEY'RE DEAD AND THEY KNOW IT.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 00:53 | 3698114 Lore
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No jobs = No commuters = Vehicles sitting in garages with full tanks of gas.  At least the "greens" will be happy.  Economic collapse is a marvelous way to "get people get out of their cars."

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 22:29 | 3697749 HardAssets
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Depending how you draw the charts, Ag has retraced about as much as in 2008. Its too early to predict anything with any degree of confidence at this time. That said, Ag made a pretty dramatic move back up after the 2008 crash.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 16:10 | 3696590 Kirk2NCC1701
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PLEASE, dear Jesus, show us that you love the Common Man. 

Give us gold at $100/oz.  And Silver at $5.

 

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:29 | 3696879 illyia
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Okay. But you will have to trust my I.O.U.

 

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:38 | 3696921 gmrpeabody
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Be careful what you ask for...

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:19 | 3697522 disabledvet
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kerosene used to be hopelessly dear "back in the day." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene after if displaced whale oil (think the book Moby Dick) it was not long thereafter that it too was replaced by electricity and distillates made from "crude oil." where at one of those inflection points right now...where oil is the new kerosene. a more ancient example is salt..."and the great salt roads" that still exist today in europe and elsewhere. needless to say if you showed someone from even 100 years ago "table salt" they'd be flabbergasted. simply put the human race will never run out of salt. it will never run out of oil. it will never run out food. it will run out of money however...we always do.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 23:39 | 3697969 GoinFawr
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I like that!

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 18:00 | 3696992 fomcy
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Cash Costs at Crimex still Alright, Nothing to worry about, just print and sell
Why bother to mine? close the mine and if you need GOLD spend mining expenses shopping at Crimex -
Still the FED's most profitable mine around. "We print GOLD future contrast all the time" Zero expenses.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 19:55 | 3697290 Whiner
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Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:16 | 3697509 howenlink
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Pretty sure that wasn't Peter Schiff.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 02:04 | 3698224 merizobeach
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The Schiff isn't fiction, either--another big difference.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 20:18 | 3697341 CPL
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I'll write you an IOU on that 'forthcoming' bar of silver and gold.

 

And yes...the truck is backed up.  Nobody has anything on hand or expecting delivery anytime soon.  Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:03 | 3696772 Panafrican Funk...
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Didn't see this posted anywhere else, but it's worth noting that today is metals futures opex.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:39 | 3696924 ZerOhead
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OK there's the MOTIVE... now let's see what's left... oh right OPPORTUNITY and ALIBI... hmmm....

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 20:41 | 3697423 auric1234
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Where do you see this day quoted? That was yesterday according to the calendar:

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/gold_product_calendar_op...

 

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 14:50 | 3696223 Car 54 Where Are U
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I have a small US miner that sells 1-10 Troy oz bars, assay certified, numbered, 99.95% pure at 5% BELOW spot to finance opening his other concessions. His refiner will purchase back at 1% below spot. Give me a shout and I'll hook you up. Greg@logigold.com

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:05 | 3696787 General Decline
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Darn. This is bad timing. I just sent my last dollar to a Nigerian prince.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:20 | 3696844 HulkHogan
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Wed, 06/26/2013 - 17:55 | 3696975 THX 1178
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Your mom cries like a little bitch when I bend your dad over the couch and put the fuckin D in him.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 18:19 | 3697048 Charles Nelson ...
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Whoa.... You sure you got the right forum?

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 19:10 | 3697182 Temporalist
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And why the restraint on the "D" instead of...whatever?  Like the rest of the comment wasn't profane.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 20:18 | 3697359 Jack Napier
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Just a pinch, dare I say, a touch of class.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:08 | 3697488 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Let's see, D...D...D...Digit? Davenport? Dentures? D-9?

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:18 | 3697520 howenlink
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I think he meant D as in golD.  Just didn't want to say it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 01:01 | 3698127 Lore
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Velvet Jones School of Technology

"make 1500 dollars without leaving the conforts of you own bedroom"

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 19:25 | 3697219 Dave Thomas
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When Charles Nelson Riley gets upset about a Dad rape montage you know you've gone too damn far.

Wed, 06/26/2013 - 21:39 | 3697552 HardAssets
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The big question is what will happen if the Chinese economy completely crashes ?  There are those who say they have a terrible real estate bubble. Does gold crash in that scenario, or do more people over there go to it as a refuge ?  Hmmmmm . . . . we live in very 'interesting' times.

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