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Ecuador's President Warns US: "Threats Are Clear Attack On Sovereignty"
It seems things are not going to according to plan for the US...
- *ECUADOR PRESIDENT CORREA COMMENTS ON SNOWDEN CASE IN LOS RIOS
- *ECUADOR'S CORREA SAYS WORLD ORDER 'UNJUST' AND 'IMMORAL'
- *CORREA SAYS U.S. GROUPS CAN'T 'TERRORIZE' ECUADOR WITH THREATS
- *ECUADOR WON'T ACCEPT 'PRESSURE OR THREATS FROM ANYONE'
- *ECUADOR SAYS U.S. THREATS 'CLEAR ATTACK' AGAINST SOVEREINGTY.
We suspect it will be a while until the US gets its case read...
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Drone strike in 3...2...1....
Posting this again to make sure people see it...
There are two other lesser known NSA whistle blowers that are key to understanding this developing story.
William Binney reveals the how the NSA is capturing and storing almost all domestic electronic communications using Narus devices at key locations on the backbone of the internet (Room 641A & AT&T Leaks). This whole metadata meme is a blatant lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Russ Tice has revealed for the first time how the NSA targets and wiretaps US politicians, judges and ranking officers for blackmailing purposes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Here is the mp3 if you want to skip yt:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/podpress_trac/web/20927/0/BF.0112.Tice_2...
This is the bread and butter that journalists should be talking about along with the NSA having direct server access to the largest software companies and the constant lies coming from the government...not where's waldo.
KEY POINT: Politicians are blackmailed and controlled by the military industrial complex. Democracy is an illusion, this is what Eisenhower warned us about!
Binney is the Richard Clarke of the NSA, he's too knowledgeable to be ignored.
Obozo the Nobel Peace prize winner would never cave to military interests.
BWAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAA
THe reason Ecuador has big balls is because they know China is sitting behind them.
Yes. +1/ I corroborate this.
Exclusive hydrocarbon and mineral rights.
Ecuador fathered OPEC. They know the deal.
You're confusing Ecuador with Venezuela. What you've stated is incorrect.
Venezuela was the father?! All these years, a lie! Jk, +1
Awesome post Thunderchild thanks, got some youtubing to do...
"Obozo the Nobel Peace prize winner would never cave to military interests.
Actually, it's the military acting out in Obama's interest. I know, it's hard to believe for some. It shatters the image.
Obozo the Nobel Peace prize winner
In Sweden recently someone told us that because Nobel was born in Norway (then part of Sweden) they allowed one prize to remain in Norway - the one that "means the least" (Peace), LOL Naturally a few Americans got offended until he reminded them that most winners had actually...done something for peace.
OT: Corzine finally getting thrown under the bus?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-25/mf-global-s-jon-corzine-said-to...
Whoopdi fucking do. Corzine is going to be forced to give some of the money he stole to the CFTC. Probably be barred from the business.
He deserves prison or worse.
Can we lock him in a room with Ann Barnhardt? Pay Per View --> Victim's Fund...
Sounds nice. Wake me up if it actually happens, zzzz.
this is "bread and butter" that our entire three branches of government, and mainstrem media are now worthless pieces of crap. Such universal crime, and it is no doubt a crime, and no injunctions issued, no warrants signed, no impeachment initiated, just demands that the whistleblower and his journalist be hunted down as espionage criminals and military targets. The pace of things are picking up
The system in place is dependant upon the three levels of government and the MSM being worthless pieces of crap.
The Executive is bought and paid for crap. The Legislative is bought and paid for crap. Even the courts are crap.
Heck... when you come to think of it the entire American consumption-based economy is worthless crap and now we learn that the American Global Military/Banking Empire can't even stare down lowly Ecuador anymore...
CRAP
You should read Of Two Minds (linked in left column) if you don't already. Cut from the same mold.
Correa himself is anti-US, BUT ...
the Ecuador choice for Snowden and Assange is quite significant evidence they are both 'limited hang out' people working for the CIA ... with perhaps an agenda to help 'kill the internet'
Putin seems to have figured this out, that is why Snowden is 'delayed' in Moscow
From a great article by an exile from Israel, now living in Bolivia:
« Operation Assange 2.0 was bound to fail, as miserably as its first part ... Ecuador, Really?
Ecuador experienced a failed coup d’état in 2010; the event was perpetrated by the police force. According to Phillip Agee’s Inside the Company: CIA Diary, this [Ecuadorean] police force is owned by the CIA. ... Venezuelan teleSur news network broadcast in 2011 an incredible report of the event in its program Dossier. ... There, journalist Walter Martinez did an exceptional job in showing the kidnapping of President Correa by the police. The video shows how a gas grenade is thrown on the president by a police officer, and his gas mask is taken away from his face while he is forcibly taken away. A few hours later, after it was apparent the event had failed, he was released. ... This military-terror machinery had been trained by the USA,
On 16 February 2012, Panama’s President Ricardo Martinelli granted diplomatic asylum to Carlos Pérez Barriga, one of the directors of El Universo, Ecuador’s largest newspaper. This happened after the ratification of a sentence convicting the newspaper’s directors to three years in prison and the payment of $40 million for the crime of slanderous offenses against President Rafael Correa. A stand-off developed since Ecuador didn’t let the now Panamanian refugee leave the embassy’s compound. Following international pressure, the offended President Correa pardoned the dangerous criminals. This was not the behavior of someone who respects freedom of speech, or even basic human rights. Yet, Julian Assange’s seeks refuge under Correa’s wings.
This is odd for one declaring himself a champion of information rights. Moreover, considering his occupation, it is unconceivable that Mr. Assange is not aware of the ongoing links—a coup d’état was staged in 2010!—between the CIA and the Ecuadorian Police. Patsy or fool?
Assange is part of the “Kill the Internet” operation.
Snowden is Operation Assange 2.0.
Lawrence Lessig, a respected Law Professor from Stanford University told an audience at the 2008 Fortune’s Brainstorm Tech conference in Half Moon Bay, California, that “There’s going to be an i-9/11 event” which will act as a catalyst for a radical reworking of the law pertaining to the internet. Lessig also revealed that he had learned, during a dinner with former government Counter Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke, that there is already in existence a cyber equivalent of the Patriot Act, an “i-Patriot Act,” and that the Justice Department is waiting for a cyber terrorism event in order to implement its provisions. »
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/27/snowden-syria-and-the-soviets/
of course there will be a cyber11. The real issue is information, how much has spilled, and whether these floods (on 911, the wars, the banks, etc) the con will still work. Maybe I give people too much credit but history bears this out, declining empires get nastier, take more risks, are more hypocritcal, violent, and create more enemies inside and out as they cycle downward. Although it's possible, I do not think Assange or Snowden are agents. It would have been a cleaner pop without the complicated 1st, 4th and other amendments...and the rest of the world on our ass. Like the military leaker who will never see the light of day, Assange and Snowden are as innevitable as the US decline.
The information is out there and you can rest assured that those who are in control did not never wanted to see it get there. I doubt very much Assange and Snowden are agents or Alexander & friends would most certainly have been forced to resign already... forget the tens of millions of PISSED Americans... even our allies including the normally subservient Europeans are going apeshit...
Declining Empires tend to be very bloody. I sincerely hope that reason prevails so that this doesn't happen here... but that is wishing for a lot...
tis the season where reason is treason
If you have an alternative to the "Liberty Tree", do tell.
I don't believe there will be an attempt to "kill the Internet".
So much today depends on network functioning.
What I *do* see happening - sooner rather than later - is some new access protocols being imposed whereby access is only possible after logging in with (perhaps) some sort of biometric card, which can be traced to a specific individual. Perhaps a small, cheap card-reader which has to be swiped to gain access. That also means that a person's access can be immediately withdrawn for whatever reason. This access control may prevent proxy servers, hackers, TOR, anonymous e-mail accounts, bots and hop-skip-jump spammers and a whole lot more having access because they would be immediately identifiable. It goes almost without saying that it would be impossible for anybody to anonymously upload documents that blew the whistle on unlawful government actions (as in Ed Snowden and Assange).
Add to all that some form of access control to certain domains like what happens in every Middle East country and China already, and you have some pretty good anti-civil-unrest tools because anonymity on the Internet would become very difficult if not impossible.
Smacker,
Absolutely correct. Those who have been predicting emminent violence, revolution and destruction have apparently moved on to the internet. I've seen this in several forums despite the obvious absurdity of bringing down such an incredibly decentralized system. It is being woven into the very fabric of society. Every object will soon interface with the internet. I also agree that more personal controls will emerge. The countries that currently censor (Iran, China, Russia, Arab states, etc) would love this since it would effectively identify all "enemies of the state". The answer, of course, is hacking and bypassing these controls.
Quite so.
In addtion to the personal logging on to get access, I envisage some technically simple change being imposed to every Internet Protocol (HTTP, P2P, SMTP, POP3, IMAP, VOIP, IMS etc etc etc ) so that every packet of data that gets exchanged between two end points (typically two users or user & server) carries the users' unique IDs in the wrapper, to make that exchange traceable to an individual.
It may work with the help of Microsoft who will modify their Windows system to require a user to logon with his unique ID or it won't start the Internet connection. Once logged on, Windows will store that ID in a secret part of the Registry, possibly encrypted, and make it available to every Internet program that needs it before sending packets of data. Hey presto! The state security spooks will be collecting all these packets and filing them away for use in future threats and blackmail. The end of Internet privacy.
(1) it is a bit late to add this stuff into the internet protocols without breaking the whole net for god knows how long... might have been easier for it to have been done before inventing the internet
(2) don't use window$
if you don't see the feasibility/implementation issues then
(a) have a read on how the IPv4 to IPv6 conversion is going
(b) check on some of the RFCs that define the protocols, and then check on how long it takes to make a simple change
or if you want it in layman's terms, "too many vested interests".
that's why they are only stashing metadata. coz anything more useful could not be done - in practical terms.
Just my 2p there is plenty to worry about without things that have a simple go by solution.
(1) I agree, but it wasn't done at the time. So they might do it now. Never too late.
(2) Changes to Internet Protocol specs would affect ALL op/sys and devices, not just Windows. And it wouldn't require further changes to the IPv6 spec, but the exchange protocols used on the Internet: HTTP, SMTP, POP3 etc etc etc. They would simply be required to include one or two additional pieces of data, including the user's (owner's) unique ID code.
(3) Sure, major changes to protocol specifications wouldn't be easy. But this one would be driven by US government agencies with taxpayers' money. And what alternatives are there? IF full control and the ability to ID WHO sent a particular packet of data is the objective? On vested interests..this would not be a problem for the reason I've stated.
I don't believe they're only stashing metadata for practical reasons. Quite the opposite in fact...it's easier to collect ALL data in a data packet when you install a splitter in a fibre optic cable. You just stream it. The issue is WHAT they do with the contents. We don't know and they're not saying. In any event, metadata in e-mails provides a lot of information about the sender; it is not trivial as Obama and UK spy agencies/police would have people believe.
I'm not saying this is what they are doing or planning. But we know that ever more control is being applied - or sought - to the Internet and given the huge sums being spent by NSA and GCHQ, this approach looks to me like the one they'll go for. Where it scores is that it wouldn't require the agreement of other countries since the protocols are essentially already under US control. Other countries would have no option but to comply, otherwise come the day when they started up their browser to go to www.xyz.com, it wouldn't connect.
..just my views :-)
More State control of the Internet is going to happen and will involve substantial changes to op/sys, application s/w, Internet protocols and/or DNS specs. But it won't happen overnight.
But already, on some websites that I access, they spew out a message telling me that my browser is not the latest version and pages may not display correctly. Sometimes the messages are more hardline. In several cases, they won't even deal with me, so I go away believing it is MY decision what browser I use, not a website owner. That is more difficult if the website I'm trying to access is online banking.
If tighter State control was introduced - using any number from a range of options - users would progressively be forced to comply, else switch off and go away. Since the likes of Microsoft and Google are well and truly in bed with big government and have little more than contempt for their customers, they would simply include a unique logon requirement into one of their op/sys updates. And they would probably not even mention it to users prior to the updates, as is their devious way. And trying to roll back the op/sys update would not be possible. They've Gotcha!!
Couple or so issues I see here, smacker.
(1) Most end users have dynamic I P addresses. So next time you log on, you are "someone else" as concerns your "location".
(2) When you clear your cache and cookies, you become "someone else" as concerns your browser.
(3) If you reinstall your operating system, clearing the userid directory, or registry if you must use windows - or a compromised other operating system - you become "someone else".
If you use the internet for banking, shopping, etc., you are already compromised - that is, as concerns the institution in which your cash is (being) placed.
If you use the internet to talk to government, you are already compromised.
In either case, once your data is found outside the domain you AGREED to compromise yourself with, those domains are no longer to be trusted. We go back to paper. Nobody wants that, but the inconvenience to banks, gov, and traders is monumentally more obstructive than it is to individuals. Big Biz could not cope.
There is, anyway, nothing to stop you using a second, anonymised, computer for other purposes. There are legitimate ways of doing this and, as I hear in some places, there are many other ways.
Practically, to amend the internet protocols as you suggest is nothing more than a spook's wet dream. Let them try and, while they are stubbing their toes on all the potholes, grab your popcorn - preferably having stashed all your personally valuable data onto a thumb or ext hdd first.
To be frank, what I read into your part of this conversation seems to be more propagandist for the "we're watching you" meme than anything else. But you are welcome to address the logistical issues I raise here and I would be happy for you to convince me.
I don't think this is going to happen: long popcorn.
M
"come the day when they started up their browser to go to www xyz com"
That's just DNS.
I can see that politically leading on to fracking the whole internet into national registries with their own variant protocols, sorry, I meant own variant DNS lookups.
Not actually a terribly bad idea in some ways ... effectively, google already does that if it knows your IP, sorry, based on the IP it thinks is yours... then there are a heap of national TLDs nhs.uk police.uk and so on
So fracking has already begun
As for trying to change global protocols www, smtp, pop imap nntp ntp
good luck with that
It's not necessarily a DNS issue, although DNS could be involved. For an idea of what info is already contained in DNS queries, check out the NirSoft "DNS Sniffer" small, free, non-install program at www.nirsoft.net
Consider one Internet protocol we all use: HTTP. I run a fileserver running under HTTP (not FTP) and every access to it contains a bunch of metadata which is sent to my server by the user's browser. Some elements of the metadata is technically necessary as it (eg) helps the server to format its response to match the language & features etc of the user's browser. Other elements are for other purposes, eg if my fileserver was actually a webserver it would like to know the screen resolution of the user's browser and whether it supports some of the latest HTML features etc. Some elements of the metadata can be manipulated by the user, others not.
Here's a copy/paste of one simple browser access to my fileserver today. In addition to the user's WAN IP Address, here are the elements of the metadata sent to my server by the browser. They vary from one browser access to another but most are standard:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> GET / HTTP/1.1
> Host: [redacted]
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.32) Gecko/20120529 Firefox/3.6.32 (Palemoon/3.6.32)
> Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
> Accept-Language: en-gb,en-us;q=0.8,en-au;q=0.6,en-ca;q=0.4,pt-br;q=0.2
> Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
> Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
> Keep-Alive: 115
> Connection: keep-alive
> Referer: [redacted]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A change to the HTTP specification need only require that one addtional fixed element was added to that metadata: the user's unique encrpyted logon code that is inserted by his browser when it sends off a request to any server. Without it, the server being accessed simply would not respond. This check could be carried out by DNS servers too. Obviously, measures would be required to ensure that the user could not manipulate his unique logon code, but that's where the op/sys and browser design comes in. It's not that difficult from a design concept pov, although I grant you that actually coding the changes and testing/implementing it would take some time. But with the power/money of the US Govt behind it that only becomes a matter of time.
What I'm doing is setting out one option for increased State control of the Internet. Most of us already know this is on the cards and will happen. It's just a matter of time and method.
Yes. I agree that this is feasible, technically, and I have no problems with the general fear of state snooping. I appreciate the dangers.
I can also see how major browser and server suppliers might sneak in such a change under the guise of "this is a security update: please apply this update as soon as possible to secure your data".
But why should I use a major browser? or server?
There must be innumerable self hosted web servers out there which are not "up to date" and never will be.
In order to cope with these any change to the protocols has to be failsafe, i.e. not choke when the conversation fails to include a new piece of data.
So I cannot see this being a simple global update.
And if you can't catch everyone, what's the point?
My quibble is not with the technicalities but with the logistics and, if you like, the demographics.
How would this catch the smart bastards?
Ecuador does have oil. Maybe they need to be liberated from their oppressive regime. Let's push some 'freedom' down their throat.
The problem with sarcasm is that exactly the wrong people will take it seriously.
1984
Why do you consider them repressive? Just because they;re the most corrupt nation on the continent, censor the media, internet and tv and monitor email and the internet? What matters is that they're anti-US. That excuses a whole host of sins.
Maybe Ecuador needs a humanatarian force to help insure stability of their country and people. It did wonders for Libya.
The point he's making is that a coup has taken place.
You have to admit that the "Where's Waldo" thing was amusing. Trillions and trillions of dollars, and the MIC can't find one guy. (Let's not go into the matter of Osama; that's a whole different can of worms.)
Absouletly correct, I just chose my wording for some people that may still be inclined to stockholm syndrome.
Did you ever think, that the reason Obama came out of nowhere is because he doesn't have proper citizenship?? That's his hook. The NSA keeps him in line, by waving it around. Just a thought.
"The NSA keeps him in line,"?
Did it ever occur to you that Barry like any good statist, is doing exactly what he wants and that he has NO political opposition except for the public.
I was thinking of selling my two AK47's (SGL-21 and PAP M92) but it's looking more and more like I might actually need them for terroists and stuff, ya know the one's who live in caves and stuff, you understand don't you NSA?
Do you take paypal and ship to the UK?
*Edit* Oops, sorry, wrong site, thought I was on ebay. Honest Mr NSA/GCHQ man...
This issue seems to have caused a schism for both the Left and the Right, and it's helped shine a light on what I call the "super-statists."
There are plenty of people in both camps who are legitimately alarmed by what's going on. On the other hand, you've got the die-hard partisans on the Left who dismiss all this as conspiracy theory simply because "their team" is in charge, and you've got the die-hard warmongers on the Right who imagine a terrorist under every bed. While these two groups may seem to be political enemies, they will in fact always grow the power of the State at the expense of the individual. The labels they apply to themselves mean very little; they are, for all intents and purposes, on the same side.
With their eyes wide shut, they will celebrate such excessive government power even as they get probes shoved up their asses. Let's hope they're outnumbered, otherwise we're all screwed.
"This whole metadata meme is a blatant lie!"
Agreed. Using a blackbox splitting the datastreams, it would be very difficult to limit data collection just to metadata. And why would they go to the trouble if it's all done secretly?
For sure, they are collecting everything.
"military industrial complex" These companies are on Wall street so who are the largest shareholders I wonder? Who pulls the strings?
Out them and "we the people" have our enemy?
Folks you really need to watch and listen to the links that The Thunder Child has posted because it's explosvie stuff. Sibel Edmonds at Boiling Frogs is doing the job that the msm won't.
Anyone else remember the guy who would post about the MASS ARRESTS that were supposed to take place? I wonder what he would say about all this...
And don't forget J. Kirk Wiebe, Thomas Drake and Ed Loomis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQe7K-ER2To
We must hurry and liberate the Ecuadorians from this tyrant!
I cannot imagine what kind of heart an American has to have to not applaud the Ecuadorian president.
Obama/Congress/Gen. Alexander... say that those who applaud Ecuador/Snowden/Freedom&Rights have the "Hearts of Terrorists and Traitors"... you know... people like you, me, Ron Paul and over 50% of Americans.
It's sad that you don't even have to make this kind of shit up to make them look simply awful...
the latest article I read in MSM about Snowden quoted Obama as calling Snowden a hacker.
Um...he didn't have to hack anything: the data was available at his fingertips.
Just another opportunity to paint Snowden in a bad light (for uninformed sheeple).
Next, it'll be "hacker terrorist".
As an aside: Hackers are likely this nations best hope, at this point.
Obama/Congress/Gen. Alexander... say that those who applaud Ecuador/Snowden/Freedom&Rights have the "Hearts of Terrorists and Traitors"...
Reading that literally gave me a shiver up my spine.
Exactly. This will be a humanitarian effort and I call for the UN to issue a resolution in support of removing such a tyrant, who obviously doesn't have his peoples' best interest at heart.
Correa's jealous of our women...ooops, I mean freedoms....
Sorry for the mistake. Do I have to go stand in the corner for a time-out?
That's what happens when you have a wet noodle for a president. No respect whatsoever, regardless how small and incapable the country.
Hey RSloane... here is your answer, just a couple of posts away. The kind of people who have their brains co-opted by the false dichotomy of american politics.
Let...me...explain...this...nice...and...slow...so...you...can...keep...up...with...me.
My point is that no 3rd world socialist, marxist or communist leader would think of punking an American president who went by the name of Reagan, but have absolutely no problem when the American president's name is Obama or Carter. World leaders can smell weakness light-years away. And it reeks with this administration.
You didn't need further explanation... I can write your lines for you. It's simple, really. Your point is retarded... in that it retards the conversation. RSloan wondered who wouldn't embrace the response given by the Ecuadorian presisdent... and I offered you as an example. Instead of standing up against the authoritarian nature of our government, you see this as an opportunity to suggest that we should, what... be even more authoritarian? If only we had some sort of badass in the White House... you stupid fuck. And I say that with all due respect... you stupid fuck. This war mongering, drone killing, police state loving, fascist president isn't good enough for you... you need someone who isn't weak. Well... that's coming next. Idiots get to believe that Obama represents some stark departure from what American leadership is... even if he's really no different from those who preceeded him.
Ok, look, you asshole, I am firmly confident that I am less of a "war-monger" than you are and I don't have an issue with what the Ecuadorian president said. My issue, if you weren't so pig-headed to see, is that the comment would not have even been made if the guy RESPECTED who our president was. NOBODY outside of the progressives in the US have any respect for Obama. The dude is a fucking joke and gets ZERO respect from other world leaders. THAT'S the point I'm making. Can you HEAR ME now?
Your hero worship of RR suggests that you are likely not less of a war monger than I am... but whatever. And again... I understand your point... and I feel good about my point in response... which is... your point is RETARDED. The fact that your knee jerk reaction to the article was to make it R vs. D political... yearning for the days of Reagan, tells me what they have done to your mind. Divide and conquer. Until you can overcome your blinders which want you to see everything within the context of R is good and D is bad, you're useless.
Dude, I may be registered Repub, but I voted for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary and have built up MAJOR resentment for the establishment over the years. You THINK you know who I am, but you don't. I brought up Reagan, not because he was perfect, but because he's about the only President I can think of that was worthy of the office over the past (what) 80-90 years, since Coolidge.
I lived there for four years as Correa won his first term. He's a bombastic and egotiscal US Hater. One of the few Chavez wannabes.
He earned an affirmative action and free PhD from the University of Illinois.
Nice show of gratitude.
Because he was educated in the US means he has to wash uncle sams balls?
No it's just another example of what our educational system produces. The government produces such people because it's good for the government.
Hey David, Go fuck yourself.
The world does not owe us anything we have been preaching democracy and freedom but deal in terror and extortion.
Venezuela?
other than disdain for american policy towards s.a., venezuela and ecuaddor ran things entirely different. ecuador is NOT socialist on any level, despite the msm bullishit......................
Que Guapo!
I knew you could not stay away for a week, especially with this rout in gold.
in my best corleone voice:
just when i thought i was out.....they pull me back in...............
"Plethora"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mTUmczVdik
Careful sonny, or else Obewama will sick (sic) Carey on you. Not only that, but Sharpton will lead mobs through the streets and Jesse Jackson will come out of hiding.
That should get him quaking in his boots.
Do you mean Kerry and his lizard tongue?
Obviously they too have much love, trust and respect for Oblameo .
Well done Ecuador!
Do NOT negotiate with terrorists.
Plantains declared WMDs
Correa to Owebama: GIT FUCKED
Im proud that he can stand up to them, even though im not ecuadorian...for now.Ecuador is a beautiful and rich country. Too bad they use dollars...doh. The beast is in the house Correa.
I hope that doesnt continue.
Fuck NSA!
Fuck Bernanke!
Fuck Paper Promises!
Fuck MSM!
USA does not spend over $1 trillion a year (47% of world military spending) on the military to preserve the sovereignty of Ecuador. It is to assert its will on Ecuador and the rest of the world.
WTF is happening to gold?
WTF is happening to gold?
I posted this earlier. With the quarter ending and reporting due, nobody will want gold on their books. The fund managers won't want to answer questions an to why they have an underperforming asset in their holdings.
One hell of a 10-day chart.
I'm thinking it will go lower as the dollar strengthens.
Which it will continue to do until it collapses ,maybe another
12 months.I'm praying gold goes lower or sideways as I'm
selling property in Europe right now. a goodly portion of
which will be invested into boating accidents.
but it's simple, we're performing terrorist acts and threats because a government whistleblower revealed that in the name of countering terrorist threats, we terrorized the constitution and our own citizens.
Once again, this reminds me of the criminal defendant taking the stand - the US will continue to be the best witness against itself. Criminals and idiots
He's right you know. I am a tad worried for Mr. Snowden. Given U.S. tendencies toward misdirection, the president's statement this morning that he is not going to negotiate with foreign nations to extradite Mr. Snowden suggests to me that the jackals have been unleashed. Watch your six, Ed.
Yep, when he said he wasn't going to scramble jets to go after a hacker I pictured CIA assets getting text messages with a picture of Snowden's face a-la Bourne Identity.
LOL! The only thing missing is Snowden leaving Russia on a Russian visa.
Fuck you, Obama!
BREAKING: ECUADOR FOUND TO SUPPLY CHEMICAL WEAPONS TO SYRIA
Any news on Ecuador's NuKular WMD program? tia.
Here's the evidence:
http://chemistry.about.com/b/2011/07/10/bananas-are-radioactive.htm
Yeah, they call it the micro papaya nuke. And they centrifuge out the seeds.
I'm sure that ol' Swiftboat Kerry is parachuting in with a crack team of SEAL operators to take care of the situation as we speak. Nothing to worry about.
Re Kerry is parachuting in...
Uugh? Isn't he s'posed to be running in tonite's 6:30 at Hialeah?
More and more countries are standing up to US bullying. I'm really glad to see that. What the fuck is the US gonna do if most countries tell it go fuck off? Bomb the whole world? Go ahead...try it.
US belligerence is all a part of the globalists plan.
From Superfriend to Superfoe.
And only the UN can "save" you.
Hmmm. What's the banking landscape look like in Ecuador? I am wondering if this might be a good place to relocate to when the SHTF.
Ecuador has an ever increasingly large ex-pat group. http://overseasradio.com/10-reasons-why-ecuador-is-a-top-retirement-and-expat-destination/
There i snothign to dislike about Ecuador...delicious food, beautiful beaches, knock-out women, nice people, safe streets, low cost medical care, and, so on. If they capitalize on this they could become #1 USA travel destination given 90% of the rest of the world is unsafe.
I have heard people say the exact opposite of this, many times. Its hard to generalize, but everyone should do their own due dilligence...
The most habitable sections of Ecuador are at high altitude. An eighty year old retired ex-pat on oxygen shouldn't live at 9,000 ft above sea level.
Nice people the Ecuadorians, but good luck with banking. Talk to any Ecuadorian adult who had money in the 70s, 80s, 90s, or - wait a second, or ever.
Don't be fooled by the armed guards outside your local branch, the theives are generally already inside the banks.
I lived there for a year during the late 90s. Beautiful country with extreme diversity and very nice people. Its an old world country. I have often thought it would be my retirement destination.
Nice headline from Fox.
nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/27/obama-hasnt-called-russians-chinese-about-snowden
Barry is getting upset. LMFAO!!!
I'm sorry, Mr. Putin isn't in right now, would you like to leave a message?
National security issues aside,
I know a marvelous lady who has spent significant time in Ecuador and she sings praises about the place.
Lots of folks travel through there in order to visit the Galapagos Islands and come away with many wonderful experiences.
If no warrant needed for you then you are a slave.
Correa: "Threats are a clear attack on our sovereignty."
O'bomb-a: "WTF are YOU gonna do about it, punk?"
So Senator, we were just curious how you plan to vote on the latest bill and.........wow, look at that, a picture of your kids on their school playground just popped up on your computer screen.
the mouse that roared.
the impotent u.s. of a attempts what every bully does, rant and rage and then pick on someone small.
ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, Associated Press all neglect to mention that Ecuador offered $23 million back for human rights education, only noting that trade aid was unilaterally turned down. Too controversial / anti-American to be permitted by Chairman and Generalissimo Obama perhaps.
Ecuador newspapers are running stories that Correa told the US to fuck off regarding reneweing trade subsidies. Offering to give the US 23M (which is what they save per year) in order to improve human rights in US.
Google translation:
The National Secretary of Communication, Fernando Alvarado, announced that Ecuador resignation unilateralmetne tariff preferences ATPDEA and instead offers to deliver the U.S. $ 23 million, which is the benefit that the government estimates provided by this treaty, for human rights training .
Alvarado made the announcement as follows:
"Faced with the threat, insolence and arrogance of certain political, media groups and American powers have pushed to remove tariff-ATPDEA preferences for its acronym in English-to our country, Ecuador states that:
Ecuador does not accept pressure or threats from anyone, and does not trade with the principles nor subjected to commercial interests, however important they may be.
Ecuador reminds the world that tariff preferences were originally granted as compensation to the Andean countries for its fight against drugs, but soon became a new instrument of blackmail.
Consequently, Ecuador resignation unilaterally and irrevocably to such tariff or ATPDEA preferences.
Moreover, Ecuador offers U.S. economic aid of 23 billion dollars annually-an amount similar to that we received from the tariff preferences, in order to provide training in human rights helps to avoid attacks on the privacy of people, torture, extrajudicial killings, and other acts injurious to mankind.
President RafaelCorrea beforehand had downplayed the possibility that the U.S. Congress did not renew the ATPDEA, indicating that its impact has been overestimated, and that the government can cover aid for exporters.
Along with the ATPDEA overcome the Generalized System of Preferences (GSP), which benefits from Ecuador, which has in the United States as its largest trading partner fate of 40% of exports, equivalent to about $ 9,000 million annually.
Ecuador's GDP is $ 86,166 billion and, according to Correa, will soon reach 90,000 million.
The ATPDEA covered only to Ecuador, as its original beneficiaries Colombia and Peru have free trade agreements with the United States, while Bolivia was severed from the Washington inadequate considering anti-drug efforts.
Predator drones !!
Yeah, Obama has them shaking in their boots..
Venezuela's Chavez replacement calls Obama "Grand Chief of Devils, Putin calls Obama a Punk & Hong Kong calls Obama "Plantation Boy"
Back in 2007 from Reuters
Ecuador's leftist President Rafael Correa said Washington must let him open a military base in Miami if the United States wants to keep using an air base on Ecuador's Pacific coast.
Correa has refused to renew Washington's lease on the Manta air base, set to expire in 2009. U.S. officials say it is vital for counter-narcotics surveillance operations on Pacific drug-running routes.
"We'll renew the base on one condition: that they let us put a base in Miami -- an Ecuadorean base," Correa said in an interview during a trip to Italy.
Why Not? It is only fair, isn't it?
Reminds me of our fearless leader during the election cycle with all his MSM buddies talking about how our foriegn policy and international relations are so much better since he took office.
I can name many countries in which our relationship is worse:
Israel, Egypt, Syria, Libia, Russia off top of my head
I can't think of one in which our relationship is better
Good on you ECUADOR for STANDING UP to the BULLIES. F U USA!!! FU
I am so sick of your shit!!!!!!
~Canada
thank you correa - tell the big fucking criminal slobs in washington and wall street to go fuck themselves with a giant 4 headed porcupine.....the nazi high command is after snowden because he is an american hero......the nazi high command hates freedom - freedom haters include soetoro, feinstein, boxer, mccain, chambliss, and practically every member of congress - they are all hitler worshippers....who worship the bush crime syndicate and rockefeller nazis...