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Goldman's Anti-Taper Muppet-Baiting Presentation

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With stocks experiencing their best 3-day run in six months, Goldman Sachs is quick to prepare the "use the recent downdraft to build toward their strategic allocation to equities" meme. In 16 pages of bright-and-breezy charts and commentary, Goldman interprets the Fed's (dovish) commentary, explains the dovish implications to buy stocks and risky debt, and throws cold-water on the fears of China. It appears we have nothing to fear but fear itself (oh, and a global marketplace experiencing near-crisis-level volatility and deleveraging) because it's all Goldilocks from here - as good is great, bad is good, and no news is absolutely bullish. Contrast this bonds bad, stocks good perspective with Jeff Gundlach's dismissal of the great rotation meme earlier.

 

The Federal Reserve Dont Let It Be Misunderstood

 

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Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:42 | 3701616 SpykerSpeed
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But I suppose gold and silver are safe, eh ZeroHedge?

 

Heh.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:43 | 3701619 LetThemEatRand
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They ain't going to zero.  Hedge accordingly.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:48 | 3701643 Fredo Corleone
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"On a long enough timeline, the value of the U.S. dollar drops to zero."

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:50 | 3701654 LetThemEatRand
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I've been wrong before, and before, and before again.  But I think PMs are crashing for a very specific reason and I don't think the time line is very long for us knowing why.   Something is rotten in Denmark.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:55 | 3701666 fonzannoon
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in 2008 we were all watching the cds on the financial as this was going on. This time around it's countries, not companies that are imploding, supposedly. I actually can't envision it playing out.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:01 | 3701692 disabledvet
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sure ya' can. "imagine 100 million Angry Egyptians" and simply go from there.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:19 | 3701814 W74
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Yes, but how will they be walking?

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 10:45 | 3703278 Meat Hammer
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I just read one of the best analogies yet that describes QE4EVA

It's like the bus on Speed. Slow down below 50mph and the bomb goes off. You know eventually you run out of gas, the bus drops below 50mph, and the bomb goes off. But you're not going to slow down the bus deliberately.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:59 | 3701683 DeadFred
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Luckily when they come to confiscate your gold it won't be there for them. I was a witness to your boating accident, a very tragic event.  My sworn statement will be at least as valid as anything coming out of Holder's mouth.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:00 | 3701689 fonzannoon
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I will just tell them what everyone else will tell them "I sold that shit at $1,200 and was lucky to get out!"

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:38 | 3702151 nmewn
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Good man.

Abiding by the laws of criminals & sociopaths is a suckers game.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:44 | 3701626 Al Huxley
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On that not, could somebody ping GS or JPM and find out what time tonight's gold fuckathon starts?  I have some errands to do but I don't want to miss the show.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:47 | 3701637 FieldingMellish
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Its started already...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:47 | 3701686 rocker
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Just don't forget to buy their U.S. Bank Equities. Afterall, they did put it last.  LMAO. Time for a Bass Ale. 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:09 | 3701754 Al Huxley
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Shit, missed the opening act.  Well, at least it's a long show.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:48 | 3701645 fonzannoon
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I don't know what is more fucked up. Their client recommendations to buy as much hot garbage high yield emerging market etc. shit as you can, or that they will be right.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:10 | 3701764 Al Huxley
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Don't be mislead by their one-off 'right on gold' call.  They needed help to pry the gold out of GLD.  I think the general rule (other than gold) is still to fade whatever they tell their muppets.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:45 | 3701627 Manipuflation
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So what are you saying exactly?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:48 | 3701641 SpykerSpeed
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I'm a libertarian.  In fact, I'm an anarcho-capitalist.

But one thing I can't stand is bullshit investing advice.  And ZeroHedge pushes it like there's no tomorrow.  It makes more sense to be stacking cash than precious metals at this point.  Deflation will strike first, and only then will the hyperinflation happen.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:56 | 3701670 vulcanraven
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What investment advice do you speak of?

Buying gold and silver is not an investment, it is insurance.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:02 | 3701703 disabledvet
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"and unlike Tylers Durden he's left handed."

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:10 | 3701759 LetThemEatRand
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"Deflation will strike first, and only then will the hyperinflation happen."

Ben printed more money in the last few years than America incurred in total debt during its entire history -- to avoid deflation.  He bet the farm that deflation will not happen.  If it happens, no one knows what's next and it won't play out in an orderly fashion.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:18 | 3702079 KickIce
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I think the deflation is planned, what better way to buy the world with imaginary money?   The inflation comes when the sociopaths start competing for anything real or when China dumps their US debt.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:20 | 3702084 LetThemEatRand
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Very viable and likely theory.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:52 | 3702203 KickIce
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Now we just need to figure out why Asia is dumping PMs.

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 05:22 | 3702632 e-recep
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gold to dow ratio is around 12.7.

i expect it to be close to 0.75 in a couple of years.

this ride is not for the faint hearted.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:48 | 3701630 buzzsaw99
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I am really looking forward to Q2 2013 earnings reports for jpm (12th?) and gs (16th?). More loan loss reserves booked for bonuses? the squid must die. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-21/u-s-weighs-doubling-leverage-st...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:02 | 3701706 rocker
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We can always count on you for news we can use. Nice.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:12 | 3701773 Al Huxley
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Only one can survive at the end, or some corny tv-show slogan like that.  But first they've got a whole raft of weak sisters to cannibalize before the final death match.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:47 | 3701631 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Goldman's Anti-Taper Muppet-Baiting Presentation"

And the exterminators are coming to our new home tomorrow to do some mice and ant baiting. I wonder if they work for Goldman as well. :)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:46 | 3701633 FieldingMellish
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And down we go.... gold now @ $1187... silver $18.30.... 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:04 | 3701720 disabledvet
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with Larry Kudlow (God bless 'im) telling me my money is only safe in the mattress. I WILL NOT SUBMIT! I BELIEVE IN MAKING MONEY TOO!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:32 | 3702129 nmewn
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Cool ain't it?

For the patient, its the bargain of a lifetime ;-)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:56 | 3701668 adr
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As with every Muppet fuckathon they will drive the price of anything the muppets hold to the point they capitulate. Muppets hoarding gold, drive the value down until the pain makes them sell, then buy all they held at discount prices.

The muppets will buy stocks or real estate, only to see them crater in value when interest rates skyrocket. The goal is always to get the muppet to hold the bag.

When the things they hold drop, they'll watch the gold they held a short time ago skyrocket.

The Muppets will cry and Blankfein will thank them for their generosity like the sociopath he is.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:57 | 3701675 chump666
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American centric and European centric post empire f*cking bullsh*t.

Asia, China that is, is liquidating. Just look at the gold price.  Japan/China both are losing control of their markets, more so bonds (with China assisting Japan's volatility).  The world, Wall Street and yes Goldman will get in the neck.  The three way dance with death: Cronies, HFTs and central banks.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:02 | 3701700 fonzannoon
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Chump are you telling me that China is liquidating physical gold?

Cause I am gonna lose my mind.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:08 | 3701745 disabledvet
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China is liquidating gold. Venezuela is liquidating oil. Argentina is liquidating. Not even South Africa looks good here. You may do with mind whatever you like...do not lose it though. I prefer forgetting myself.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:11 | 3701771 chump666
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Argentina has been liquidating for months, hence USD bids, Brazil is scary.  If south America implodes gold will tank hard.  This is what happens when the world relied on China as a white knight.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:09 | 3701757 chump666
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On a liquidity crunch, possible but not a certainty.  What I am saying is that China appears to be liquidating (all assets). The gold sell is too severe, and the USD has NOT shown to be hyper bid (gold selling).  I'm looking it at a deflationary trade from China (bank crisis/debt write-downs), I don't even think about US markets anymore.  I wouldn't short them on Fed still printing large into Wall Street.  So for me it;s all Asia.  They melt we melt.

Stay frosty though, gold will go bid on stock market chaos and war.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:14 | 3701779 Al Huxley
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I'd need to see some evidence to believe China would sell gold and hold USTs.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:20 | 3701818 fonzannoon
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Venezuela repatriated that gold just to cough it up? China has been stockpiling to diversify out of dollars only to hand that gold back to.....who is buying exactly?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:25 | 3701841 chump666
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Who's buying and who is holding?  This is an astounding sell off. 

UST yields rise more, China will sell. 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:32 | 3701891 fonzannoon
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What is the end game. Does China want UST's or Gold. I thought I had that one right. Figures.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:40 | 3701923 chump666
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Maybe gold Fonz.   What a magnificent play that would be, liquidate gold, cause a panic, sell TON of USTs, then buy gold en masse on the lows.

Sure they are commies, but they got the Stratagems down pat.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:44 | 3701936 fonzannoon
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You are so sane that you just blew my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYQh0eZkRo

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:25 | 3702110 chump666
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haha Seinfeld!!!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:26 | 3702112 chump666
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:)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:56 | 3701982 wisehiney
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Plausible. How will they share it with U.S. commies?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:38 | 3701911 wisehiney
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You guys have not figured out that all of these fucking commies are working together?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 20:58 | 3701676 Manipuflation
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All of you PM trolls, I want you to know something and I want you to understand it well.  Even if gold and silver drop by 50% from current prices, I will still have doubled on the stack.  Remember, I sold a lot at the top in silver and I am not leveraged.  I will remember every single one of you.  What I am going to do to you in the future is going to hurt SO bad you will wish it was only a 12 inch BBC dildo up your ass because from what I have determined from reading this site for as long as I have is that most of you are hopelessly in debt and are nothing more than gamblers hoping to bail your ass out.  Your interest rates are rising.....

 

Fucking downvote me all you want but you know it is true.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:09 | 3701742 ebworthen
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Does that BBC dildo have the symbol for the British Pound along the shaft for extra "stimulation"?

Does it have balls and a suction cup at the base, and a facsimile of Gordon Brown's head for the head?

If so I want to order some to send to Million Dollar Bonus and his ilk.

Lot's of us on ZH are with you; I therefore highlight your "All of you PM trolls" intro.

You going to hold your PM's when sovereign governments desperately need them?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:36 | 3702146 Manipuflation
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Thank you EB.  Some Asshole told me that I am capable of being a respectable individual through writing.  The audience is always the question.  I know that I am capable of more than this and I enjoy trying to do that on my blog because it just flows better that way.  The reality is that I can not be pissed off everyday and write something that anyone cares to read.  It's just like a dilution of share value if I overblog.  I really don't want that for the meme. 

There are far too many good writers on ZH to ignore.  TruthInSunshine's ZH post garnered a lot of hits including from an interesting site Finland for several days.  You folks can do the same if you want to.

I know at least a few people care what I say and I thank you all for the support so far on developing boating accident news.  I suppose it is a fairly representative overview of my redneck tendencies so far.  I am sure there is a limited audience for what I write, but there are multiple limited audiences amongst the ZH crowd who write extremely well and make great posts which are forgotten by the reader, but not the computer, only 24 hours later. 

Perhaps I am approaching the site the wrong way or should approach in two ways?  Open writing and a "ZH QUOTABLE" menu tab?  I have so much respect for some of the shit that gets said here that it needs to be saved if not for who said but why it was said.  Fuck the NSA, we will say it.

 

manipuflation@boatingaccidentnews.com

Sat, 06/29/2013 - 15:51 | 3706281 WojtekSz
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forget the trolls - they will be always around as those who sponsor them will be around - yust concentrate on thjose who are looking for truth and explanation here.

do not loose faith as your writing start to bear fruit

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:01 | 3701691 ebworthen
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I have to think that at least a fair number of Americans know they are getting screwed coming and going by TPTB and are not anxiously cashing out bonds to buy stocks, but cashing out to cash. 

It will be very interesting to see the sales figures for Gold and Silver from the U.S. Mint a month from now.

Remember that in the past six months every working American has seen their monthly payroll taxes go up, and health insurance premiums.  If they aren't feeling completely bent over they should be.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:11 | 3701772 disabledvet
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THAT is bullish for gold..and silver. "Americans with lots of cash." unfortunately right now "most of that cash is still in the wrong place." could yields truly spike higher here in the USA? if the past six weeks isn't a wake up call i don't know what is. i will be watching Japan closely.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:03 | 3701699 chump666
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Watching Nikkei and JGBs.  Looks tasty for a beatdown...

Let it roll commies, time for some of that econ warfare. 

Japan/US war games: http://rt.com/usa/california-war-games-japan-339/

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:12 | 3701774 ebworthen
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I know China cut or quit buying U.S. Treasuries, think they might be preparing to sell en masse?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:37 | 3701905 chump666
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Maybe, age old bond equation on yield v's devaluation.   China may dump the 10 and buy small on the long end.  They did this in 2009, i think also 2010.  They could go harder this time.  Why hold hold devalued bonds? That would be freaking out bond managers at the moment. 

Ok, so China does this they then buy gold cheap (after liquidation) as the hedge.  I dunno...hard to say.  Something is up though.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:50 | 3701961 fonzannoon
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I don't see yields budging.

Does China own JGB's? Why not dump them and fuck Japan over?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:09 | 3701758 g'kar
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"With stocks experiencing their best 3-day run in six months"

 

Sucker'em in and pull the rug.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:16 | 3701796 orangegeek
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S&P500 Hourly shows these last three days as retracement.

 

http://bullandbearmash.com/chart/sp500-hourly-retraces-drop-week-contain...

 

Daily volume is on a steady decline.  The larger trend remains down.  We need another 60 points to the upside before considering otherwise.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 21:59 | 3701996 Lmo Mutton
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Muppet fest, serve them up fried

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 22:36 | 3702145 taketheredpill
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PAGE 13:  Is a Repeat of 1994 Likely?

 

I recall that in 1994 they had a functioning economy.  Lower rates, GDP up.  Raise rates GDP down.  In 1994 they raised rates in response to an economy that was ramping up.  Likewise inflation.  Lilewise employment.

 

Don't really see the similarity to the FUBAR of today.

 

WTF?  Who produces crapola like this?  

 

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 23:23 | 3702281 The Invisible Foot
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I love the legal notice at the bottom. "This material may not, without Goldman Sachs' prior written consent, be (i) copied, photocopied or duplicated in any form, by any means, or (ii) distributed toany person that is not an employee, officer, director, or authorized agent of the recipient."

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 01:15 | 3702485 g'kar
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Except for the NSA

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 05:52 | 3702644 toadold
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I can't seem to convince any of the local coin dealers that their premium over spot is way to high.  They just look at me like I'm a Chinese auntie.

Oh well, as the 300 pound post op said when she strapped up, "Hodor!"

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