NSA Collected "Vast Amounts" of Americans' Emails Under Obama, Guardian Reveals

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Having appeared to confirm no 'actual' American emails were intercepted in previous statements, it seems President Obama has some more questions to answer after the Guardian reveals that in fact, the Obama administration permitted the National Security Agency to continue collecting vast amounts of records detailing the email and Internet usage of Americans for more than two years. “The internet metadata of the sort NSA collected for at least a decade details the accounts to which Americans sent emails and from which they received emails,” the Guardian's Greenwald wrote. “It also details the Internet protocol addresses (IP) used by people inside the United States when sending emails – information which can reflect their physical location. It did not include the content of emails." Is it any wonder that Obama said he was "concerned" about firther leaks today.


Via Russia Today,

The Obama administration permitted the National Security Agency to continue collecting vast amounts of records detailing the email and Internet usage of Americans for more than two years, new documents reveal.


According to leaked NSA documents published by The Guardian on Thursday, a secretive surveillance program that put email and Internet metadata into the hands of the United States government was authorized after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks by President George W. Bush and continued under President Barack Obama through 2011.


The leaked evidence comes three weeks to the day after The Guardian first began publishing classified NSA documents attributed to Edward Snowden, a 30-year-old former intelligence analyst from the US who is now wanted there for espionage. He is reportedly in Moscow and has sought asylum from at least two foreign countries.




One of the two papers published this week, a 2009 working draft from the NSA’s Office of the Inspector General, explains how the agency initiated the "collection of bulk internet metadata" involving "communications with at least one communicant outside the United States or for which no communicant was known to be a citizen of the United States.” That document is marked as “top secret.”




“The internet metadata of the sort NSA collected for at least a decade details the accounts to which Americans sent emails and from which they received emails,” the journalists wrote. “It also details the Internet protocol addresses (IP) used by people inside the United States when sending emails – information which can reflect their physical location. It did not include the content of emails.”

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Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:40 | 3699577 mercenaryomics
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Just heard this, Ecuador to accept Snowden and sends jab at US over our threat to cut off some trade relations:


"Ecuador gives up, unilaterally and irrevocably the said customs benefits…What’s more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights…”

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:48 | 3699599 true brain
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The situation is this : Let say we have a fictional 18 yo in college. Let's call him Garry. He is super bright. He has a friend who is called Carl. Garry and Carl are good friends and exchanges email, phone call frequently.

Forward 20 years, Garry is now running for president of the USA. He is about to win, and a spook taps him on the shoulder on day and says "We owe you. If you don't do what we want, all  your email from 20 years ago will be made public. Your friend Carl is gay. and we think you're too."

So Garry is now a president and an NSA spook. He is going to start wars after wars after wars wherever they like. end of story.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:49 | 3699622 Pladizow
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Snowden has Obummer "Snowed-In".

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:53 | 3699646 tsx500
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who cares where Edward Snowden is right now . . . . . the real question is, who/when is the NEXT Edward Snowden ?!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:57 | 3699667 krispkritter
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The 3-letter Gang said there won't be another one: http://rt.com/usa/cia-leak-memo-leaked-330/ because they said so.  Just like last time. And the time before that. And the time...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:03 | 3699691 Joe Davola
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It did not include the content of emails.

What's the over/under until that's no longer the operative "truth"?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:21 | 3699704 The Thunder Child
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There are two other lesser known NSA whistle blowers that are key to understanding this developing story.

William Binney reveals the how the NSA is capturing and storing almost all domestic electronic communications using Narus devices at key locations on the backbone of the internet (Room 641A & AT&T Leaks). This whole metadata meme is a blatant lie!



Russ Tice has revealed for the first time how the NSA targets and wiretaps US politicians, judges and ranking officers for blackmailing purposes.



Here is the mp3 if you want to skip yt:


This is the bread and butter that journalists should be talking about along with the NSA having direct server access to the largest software companies and the constant lies coming from the government...not where's waldo.

KEY POINT: Politicians are blackmailed and controlled by the military industrial complex. Democracy is an illusion, this is what Eisenhower warned us about!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:22 | 3699761 ZerOhead
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Nailed it!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:24 | 3699767 bank guy in Brussels
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And Narus is an Israeli company, now shoved under the Boeing umbrella

Snowden is being patronised by the extremely pro-Israel Julian Assange

Assange who checks with Israel before publishing Wikileaks

Assange who denounces 9-11 'truthers', supports the official story, that Muslims, not Israelis, were involved

3 super popular 'dissident heroes', all deeply criticising America ... BUT

All seeming to deflect attention away from US - Israel ...

Starting with Alex Jones of Prison Planet & Infowars ... has a lot of great stuff BUT

Jones stays away from Zionism & Israel, Alex has a Jewish wife ... Bilderbergers to the max with Alex, but no Israel ... 11 Sept 2001 stuff, but NOT the Israeli involvement that day

... Snowden perhaps also the 'limited hang-out' to keep the focus away from US-Israel

Americans will put up with their own corrupt government and Gestapo surveillance

But Americans might really resent it if they learn Israel pulled down the New York Twin Towers and is helping run all the surveillance on them

Nobody likes foreign control ... even tho they will submit to home-grown mafia

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:38 | 3699784 The Thunder Child
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I share the same concerns about Julian Assange, Wikileaks, AJ and Israel but I do not want that to distract from the current story on the NSA/GOV in any way. If TPTB see a weakness or a divisional tear you can be sure they will exploit it. So far the attempts at character assassination and turning this into a partisan issue are utterly failing and I would like their attempts to continue to fail.

Apparently he does have an encrypted dead man drop setup:


P.S. The mp3 link is incorrect in my above post here is the correct link:



Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:10 | 3699714 francis_sawyer
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Well ~ I'd say Barry [I mean 'Garry'] deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his dedication to the cause of humanity... But the question remains... Is he still on the hook for Peggy Josephs gas & mortgage?...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:21 | 3699757 cougar_w
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For domestic emails from non-terrorists they wouldn't bother with the entire contents of email as such. Just a digest of key words would do. If they find an interesting key word then they put you on some kind of "person of interest" watch list for a while, and a string of such observations puts you into a special "take everything" list. At least that is what everyone in the IT community is assuming.

A good estimate would be that 10 in 1000 US citizens who send domestic email have been deep-snooped simply due to corresponding about interesting topics. I'm guessing 1 in 1000 are being actively and continuously monitored and entire emails saved, on no more basis than frequently writing about interesting topics.

If you are a US citizen residing in the US and any of your emails went to a foreign country --  incl Canada and Mexico -- they probably keep all your emails to and from anywhere for up to 10 years.

The above measures would be considered minimally invasive and easily defensible in court under provisions of the Patriot Act etc. I have zero doubt at all that they are already doing this.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:42 | 3699835 francis_sawyer
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There are drones over my house as we speak recording my encrypted smoke signals...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:05 | 3699961 disabledvet
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here's the only surfing i'm interested in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=HGjky5U64LM&NR=1 h/t to the Guardian of course.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 15:56 | 3700601 Yes We Can. But...
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I think the NSA should be forced, prior to mid-term elections, to reveal to any American requesting it, the complete contents of the profile they maintain on said American.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:13 | 3699726 monad
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Lets say we have a multinational criminal entity called SPECTRE, that runs a security force called the SS, that 'guards' all the significant and transitorilly important politicians. Bill Hicks: The Elite (Roll the film).

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:06 | 3699760 Gringo Viejo
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Hicks was the Lenny Bruce of his age;a political satire/comic genius. He left us way too soon.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:33 | 3699796 smacker
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Therein lies one of the many risks of private data collection by the spooks.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:36 | 3699806 I Am Not a Copp...
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@ true brain

Or Carl eventually married a fifth cousin of the Bin Laden clan, so now Garry will be hit with this right before election day and, due to his close relationship with a known terrorist, instead of the white house, he will report directly to Camp 4.  Or he will become president/spook as you say.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:51 | 3699632 ParkAveFlasher
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Correa diagnosed with cancer in 5, 4, 3, ...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:54 | 3699648 coltek
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Nice one...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:49 | 3699874 kito
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my avatar kicks ass....one of the few to stand up to the empire who left south america in shambles for so many decades............u.s. extracting, manipulating, extorting, pillaging, meddling, etc......all finally coming to an end in south america......and correa has alot to do with it...........................

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:41 | 3699580 tony wilson
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what is the guardian and the bbc

are they truth or just mi5 lies.

mossad and cia mi6 distraction or pressure.



nothing better than freedom when your sucking in  bomb radiation

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:44 | 3699594 quasimodo
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"SYRIA IS THE REAL WAR" or perhaps the real distraction?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:48 | 3699611 Spastica Rex
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A clever man would have you think that Syria is a distraction.

Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:51 | 3700263 Overfed
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Maybe it's all real, and we're just being intentionally overloaded.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 04:37 | 3707281 Ctrl_P
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Iocaine powder, I'd bet my life on it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:48 | 3699620 puntme
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maybe theyre both distractions from something larger

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:51 | 3699633 Spastica Rex
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Or maybe neither are, or maybe both are, but the what they're distracting from is smaller, or maybe one is, but not the other. I'll be right back, I'm sketching up a matrix.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:05 | 3699696 NoDebt
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Stop!  Stop!  Please!  My brain itches.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:16 | 3699741 disabledvet
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the problem of "taking both the red and blue pill."

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:17 | 3699745 francis_sawyer
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It's all a distraction from the Goldman bet that the Cubs are going to win the World Series...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:45 | 3699602 SimMaker
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"what is the guardian and the bbc"


They are both firmly in the Left Wing/Socialist camp. Both the BBC and Guardian were licking Obamas ass when (and before) he came to power.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:09 | 3699717 tony wilson
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do not call them team gb


tavistock mental head wash

rothschild or death

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:27 | 3699774 SimMaker
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I do think this is all very, very curious.


As I mentioned, both the BBC and Graundian (See years of Private Eye for spelling explanation) were very much in the Obama camp. VERY MUCH in the Obama Camp. TOTAL

In fact the Grundian is so invovled with US politics, it started a letter writting campaing from Britain...asksing British people during the 2004 election, to write to their American cousins, and tell them why they should vote for whomever.



So I am a bit baffled as to why they have seemingly turned on Obama. Their chosen one. It does make me wonder if there is another motive for these releases. Will it all lead back to the GOP and the Bush years? Is there some joker card they will play?

LOTS of government whistle blowers have spoken out about illiegal practice by the US Government, from Area 51 workers poisoned by open burning of toxic waste to the word being out on the NSA and their snooping DECADES AGO!!!......yet they were always "conspiracy theory"......yet the MSM, and you HAVE to include the BBC in the MSM bracket, have put Snowden on a throne and called him the one true Christ............why? and why now?

All is not as it seems on this one, the whole thing.....smells a bit.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 15:05 | 3700343 earleflorida
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BBC is own'd by the Queen

Al Jazerra is own'd by Qatar

PBS is own'd by the 'State Dept'

AIPAC owns Hollywood... the MSM/WAPO/NYT/etel

ZeroHedge is own'd by Tyler's !!!

Let Freedom Ring...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:45 | 3699600 williambanzai7
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Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:33 | 3699797 markovchainey
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I want that on a t-shirt! 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:18 | 3700039 beachdude
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Why the reference to November, 1967?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 15:38 | 3700529 Joe Sixpack
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Israel, UN Security Resolution 242, DuckDuckGo (fuck Google- NSA sell-out)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:46 | 3699604 McMolotov
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... it seems President Obama has some more questions to answer ...

The stench of B.O. is becoming overpowering.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:51 | 3699629 krispkritter
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He doesn't answer any questions, his teleprompter does.  Also, his spineless little weasel-boy, Jay 'The' Carney, does the same thing.


Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:56 | 3699661 Bearhug Bernanke
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Google 'impeach', the top suggestion is 'impeach Obama'. it's quite satisfying to view.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:59 | 3699676 SilverIsKing
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That should be "Right" Guard's new slogan.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:08 | 3699701 Tsunami Wave
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No no no! You can't ask questions, dazz racizzt! That makes you a hateful racizzt person! Hey look over here - gay marriage! Syria! Stock market off the lows!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:46 | 3699606 HowardBeale
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OT: What's up with oil all of the sudden?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:55 | 3699658 eclectic syncretist
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The price, that's what's up with oil.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:48 | 3699617 derrick773
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Very simple solution to all of this – give ALL Americans absolute immunity from prosecution from anything that is non-terror related if the NSA collects it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:52 | 3699636 MachoMan
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How about an even more simple solution, that doesn't require paying for servers and people to skim the data...  we prohibit the collection of the data and institute a viable right to privacy.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:04 | 3699694 TheRegulator
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We already have that...we've just been electing supposed constitutional experts to get around it since it's inception...

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